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03:20:42 <hcf> now try it
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03:20:48 <andreou> yeah.
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03:21:05 <andreou> ok
03:21:05 <andreou> thanks
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03:24:10 <hcf> now try it
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03:25:36 <andreou> great
03:26:40 <hcf> ok, all set now
03:26:56 <andreou> yeap, thanks.
03:27:01 <hcf> np
03:27:10 <hcf> bye
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08:00:37 <lament> WELL, I GUESS THIS DOESN?T REA
08:00:37 <lament> LLY QUALIFY AS ESOTERIC, BUT A
08:00:37 <lament> NYWAY.
08:00:37 <lament> IT?S A ?-BIT ENCODING.
08:00:37 <lament> UNLIKE BAUDOT AND SIMILAR ENCO
08:00:39 <lament> DINGS, IT ACTUALLY USES ?-BITS
08:00:41 <lament> .
08:00:44 <lament> THE COMPLETE CHARACTER SET INC
08:00:47 <lament> LUDES THE ALPHABET ?UPPERCASE
08:00:49 <lament> ONLY?, THE COMMA, THE PERIOD,
08:00:51 <lament> THE DASH, THE EXCLAMATION MARK
08:00:54 <lament> , THE QUESTION MARK AND THE SP
08:00:57 <lament> ACE.
08:00:59 <lament> THE QUESTION MARK IS ALSO USED
08:01:02 <lament> INSTEAD OF CHARACTERS WHICH C
08:01:04 <lament> OULDN?T BE OTHERWISE CONVERTED
08:01:07 <lament> .
08:01:09 <lament> SURE, IT?S SILLY, BUT IT?S CU
08:01:12 <lament> TE! HEH.
08:02:00 <lament> I WILL TRY A ?-BIT ENCODING NE
08:02:04 <lament> XT.
08:07:41 <andreou`work> argh
08:07:47 <andreou`work> wish sirc had scrollback ;p
08:08:48 <lament> hm
08:09:01 <lament> A 4-bit encoding would have the following alphabet:
08:09:08 <lament> "etaoihnsrdluwgc "
08:10:03 <lament> or rather, in alphabetical order, "acdeghilnorstuw "
08:10:38 <lament> i guess the w can be replaced with ? to indicate missing characters
08:12:46 <lament> this is ?hat a ?our??it encoding loo?s li?e?
08:13:25 <lament> i guess it?s actuall? so?e?hat reada?le? heh? ?ourteen letters are enough ?or ?ost ?ur?oses??
08:13:46 <andreou`work> heheh
08:14:01 <lament> as a neat side e??ect? the ?essage loo?s li?e ?loor engra?ings ?ro? nethac? ???
08:15:05 <lament> And of course, instant 2x compression
08:15:09 <lament> two chars in one byte!
08:16:03 <lament> I GUESS IT LOO?S ?ETTER IN ALL U??ERCASE?
08:16:58 <lament> Heh.
08:17:04 <lament> And some people use silliness like Unicode.
08:17:13 <lament> It's appaling.
08:18:05 <lament> It's like using C# instead of Brainfuck.
08:18:34 <andreou`work> lament, please don't take it personally...
08:18:47 <lament> Why not?
08:18:50 <andreou`work> are you taking drugs? the kind of drugs that make one see colors :)
08:18:53 <andreou`work> and shapes
08:19:05 <andreou`work> i mean, if you are everything can be explained :)
08:19:09 <andreou`work> like that abuse.html
08:19:11 <lament> Oh, I thought you were suggesting I shouldn't take people using Unicode personally.
08:19:25 <andreou`work> there, see? :)
08:19:42 <andreou`work> unicode is ok as long as i don't have to use it.
08:20:03 <lament> I prefer my four-bit encoding.
08:20:18 <andreou`work> wow, i've been two days away and about 60 files have changed in the CVS...
08:20:48 <lament> touch *
08:21:00 <lament> cvs commit -m "Major changes throughout the project..."
08:21:03 <andreou`work> i am not convenient with this alteration. i will log into the cvsroot server and change them back.
08:21:07 <andreou`work> eheh
08:21:22 <andreou`work> nah but most coders have the bad habbit of aliasing 'commit' to 'cvs commit -m "fix"'
08:21:25 <andreou`work> nasty bastards
08:21:34 <andreou`work> they're not coders
08:21:45 <lament> heh
08:21:46 <andreou`work> they are programmatic source file production simpletons
08:21:59 <andreou`work> i mean, what is the point of just adding fix
08:22:00 <lament> Yes! They can be easily replaced by Befunge programs.
08:22:15 <andreou`work> au contraire, my commit message are better
08:22:46 <andreou`work> here is a random example:
08:22:48 <andreou`work> That is not death
08:22:48 <andreou`work> Which can eternal lie
08:22:48 <andreou`work> And with strange aeons
08:22:48 <andreou`work> Even death may die.
08:22:48 <andreou`work> Dear friends, stop this 'fix' and 'empty commit message' madness!
08:22:49 <andreou`work> (The quote is from H. P. Lovecraft; that guy was nearly as destructed
08:22:51 <andreou`work> as Bunuel and Dali.)
08:22:53 <andreou`work> Have phun. I think the code is much more readable now, but it is entirely
08:22:55 <andreou`work> possible that I missed a closing bracket here or there 8^) .
08:23:05 <andreou`work> and guess what... i had in fact missed a closing bracket somewhere :) .
08:23:57 <lament> heh
08:24:05 <lament> that's a big message.
08:24:10 <andreou`work> (there have been better commit messages)
08:24:26 <andreou`work> i am thinking of educating these poor foul souls. i'll commit with poetic messages
08:24:39 <lament> what project are you working on?
08:25:27 <andreou`work> From revisioin 1.1 until revision 1.686 inclusive the commit message is 'fix'. GOD DAMN.
08:25:43 <andreou`work> they are orking at a PHP/MySQL Hotel program
08:26:42 <andreou`work> the company is a start-up, so everyone does everything they know. they only know how to code, but i also administer the servers.
08:26:54 <andreou`work> it's a fun escape when you've tired of reading malformed source code.
08:29:06 <andreou`work> CS degrees at teiath are given out way too easily
08:29:24 <andreou`work> heh that coffee was strong; i'm being vitriolic :)
08:30:07 <lament> yay coffee
08:30:20 <lament> it's interesting how different drugs make you "more awake" in different ways
08:30:39 <andreou`work> unfortunately i haven't had the chance to experiment ;p
08:30:56 <lament> I haven't either, except for coffee, chocolate and weed
08:31:50 <andreou`work> coffee stimulates me, but I wouldn't say it makes me more awake. usually when I am tired and drink coffee I just loose the ability to sleep, not the sleepiness :)
08:33:41 <andreou`work> i wonder why bynari.net compressed the installer of the insightconnector when the compression rate is just 3%
08:34:06 <lament> for security reasons!!
08:35:32 <andreou`work> s/security/obscure/
08:43:07 <lament> Hm, speaking of weed
08:43:08 <lament> http://www.wikipedia.org/upload/0/0e/Marahuana_warning.png
08:43:34 <andreou`work> lessee
08:44:14 <andreou`work> Murder! Insanity! Death!
08:44:35 <lament> That poster was used in the thirties.
08:47:15 <andreou`work> first cow-orker came
08:48:12 <andreou`work> gotta get to werk a little bit :)
08:48:13 <andreou`work> see you later
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08:49:05 <lament> I'll go to sleep. Bye all.
08:49:10 <lament> heh
08:49:15 <lament> I'm getting a bit paranoid.
08:49:21 <lament> Talking to people who're not really here.
08:49:38 <lament> But yeah, bye all you silly log readers.
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17:27:51 <andreou> Hello people, hello power, hello bot, hello world, hello universe. Die, cleaning lady.
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