< 1114925003 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1114934399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1114934400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1114935973 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1114943468 0 :kipple!~kipple@163.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1114958238 0 :pgimeno!pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.pooles.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1114958260 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello! < 1114958291 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not just a tale... this channel does actually exist < 1114958923 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: just curious, will the Cat's Eye pages content include a discussion on the several languages and paradigms, as the original did? < 1114961819 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit, I want to write a debugger for HQ9+ but the specs do not mention the initial value nor the limit value for the accumulator < 1114961897 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it supposed to be run in a 32-bit binary computer? < 1114962048 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1114962250 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many broken specs out there... how is one supposed to debug a HQ9+ program if he can't even know the current value of the accumulator? < 1114962442 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's customary to introduce oneself here, anyway I'm Pedro Gimeno from Spain and I'm a esoteric languages fan - my current project is a Malbolge program that copies input to output AND stops on EOF < 1114962462 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a esoteric -> an esoteric < 1114962488 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello. and how do you define EOF? < 1114962521 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EOF as read from standard input comes in as the number 59048 in Malbolge < 1114962559 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yep. < 1114962573 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far nobody has succeeded in writing a Malbolge program that does a conditional jump in Malbolge, that's what I'm trying now < 1114962616 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1114962751 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually using many of Lou Scheffer's directions < 1114962926 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are so many caveats he doesn't mention < 1114964055 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've so far written a Malbolge debugger in Python and a cat program in Malbolge which does not stop on EOF - if someone's interested I can post it on the web < 1114964092 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was such program already afair, was it yours? < 1114964141 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, by Lou Scheffer indeed < 1114964158 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but Lou Scheffer's one cheats < 1114964163 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses >127 chars < 1114964166 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine doesn't < 1114964218 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, post it somewhere. btw it seems the server with your homepage does not respond. < 1114964248 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, which one? I migrated it somewhere else not long ago < 1114964267 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right < 1114964286 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/ < 1114964320 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it will be back online soon < 1114964338 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no problem, there is a google cache. < 1114964473 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://perso.wanadoo.es/p.gimeno/temp/mbd.py <-- Malbolge debugger < 1114964491 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://perso.wanadoo.es/p.gimeno/temp/catnoeof.mb <-- CAT program which does not consider EOF < 1114964592 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess Lou's cat does not understand EOF as well? < 1114964608 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does exactly the same as this, except for the >127 chars < 1114964925 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :post it to esoteric maillist < 1114964982 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think it will be of interest there? < 1114965028 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, formauri.es is back online; it was probably on mainteinance or something < 1114965067 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list was dead quite a long time, any letter could resurrect it :) < 1114965098 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't hold any esolang stuff in there so far; I was about to write a page dedicated to Malbolge as the result of working on this < 1114965119 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid of mailinglists (too much time consumed) < 1114965201 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time? there were only two mails this year. irc consumes much more time. < 1114965221 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1114965232 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, where do I subscribe? < 1114965393 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo subscribe lang | mail listar@esoteric.sange.fi < 1114965528 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1114965952 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1114966015 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, it works. also i've found a bug in my interpreter :) < 1114966076 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not surprising; the reference interpreter is already quite buggy < 1114966111 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are all damned :P < 1114966118 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1114974480 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does someone have the Rube and Rube II distributions? < 1114974594 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could only recover the Rube 1.02 C source, examples and docs from the Wayback machine < 1114975510 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/20020601172059/www.catseye.mb.ca/esoteric/alpaca/redgreen/index.html ? < 1114975574 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jaapan.de/en/myprg.php?page=progs2 < 1114975823 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! thanks < 1114976226 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, apparently RedGreen is included in the Alpaca distribution