< 1117239244 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: i'm done! < 1117239270 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1117239309 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice < 1117239324 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rafb.net/paste/results/DQn85Z68.html < 1117239352 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmh coool < 1117239431 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs 4secs on my 1ghz ppc machine.. ^^ < 1117239513 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is really neat program < 1117239520 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quite fast as well < 1117239546 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite fast? < 1117239565 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1117239679 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 secs on my 187MHz machine :) < 1117239727 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does xchat-aqua need 50% cpu ? < 1117239781 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now write a kipple compiler < 1117239798 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in kipple :) < 1117239807 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be great :) < 1117239824 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple2c in kipple ? < 1117239835 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice idea < 1117239836 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I put prime.k on the Kipple homepage? < 1117239849 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: yes < 1117239868 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who should I credit? < 1117239871 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix? < 1117239873 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jannis Harder < 1117239924 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1117240065 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the Kipple home page gets updated more and more frequently.... < 1117240096 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1117240433 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1117240439 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too tired < 1117240445 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardly can stay awake < 1117240450 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good nite < 1117240461 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1117240461 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good nite < 1117240670 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: an updated version: http://rafb.net/paste/results/by15VL64.html < 1117240685 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the diff? < 1117240710 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the \n are at the right position < 1117240724 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not using the input stack as a temp stack < 1117240899 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is currently the second largest kipple program in existence (that I know about) < 1117241795 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1117241841 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- < 1117241857 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :___ < 1117241898 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, there is NOTHING wrong with using the input stack as a temp stack! < 1117241924 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1117241926 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok.. < 1117242002 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just be aware that it may contain data you have not put there.. < 1117242326 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1117242340 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nite < 1117242367 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Banned from network" < 1117243758 0 :calamari!~calamari@dialup-4.240.242.195.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1117243766 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re's < 1117244343 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nite all < 1117244370 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya pgimeno < 1117244909 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1117244973 0 :wooby!~wooby@66.57.219.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1117245066 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think I need directories, or will one be enough? < 1117245251 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will quickly become crowded I think < 1117245463 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: possibly, although there are only programs that the user creates < 1117245473 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the commands are all built in < 1117245480 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes < 1117245500 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be getting rid of a few of those (who needs touch?) :) < 1117245623 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about multiple processes.. needed? < 1117245811 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one editor and one command line would be nice, of course < 1117245945 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really considered having multiple windows.. interesting < 1117245997 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't have to be windows. just two textareas you can switch between < 1117246003 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a row of 4 buttons could represent a taskbar of sorts :) < 1117248284 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1117248992 0 :graue!~piecrust@ip68-100-130-21.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1117249002 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ello < 1117249010 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1117249021 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Another brainfuck site (http://www.bf-hacks.org/) is open! ~ http://chriscoyne.com/cfdg/ ~ Esolang Preservation project info: http://tinyurl.com/d3fk5 ~ Esolang wiki: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Main_Page < 1117249060 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am inventing a weird language < 1117249095 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking about the file storage issue, and have come to the conclusion that we should use both methods. < 1117249113 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird in what way? < 1117249118 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric? < 1117249143 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1117249179 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's slightly Icon-inspired, and slightly AMD64 assembly-inspired, and then just weird in addition to that < 1117249197 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that a file hierarchy is best for preservation of multiple files. but we should also have images and maybe some other files in the wiki < 1117249219 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, images of what? Piet programs? Whitespace with syntax highlighting? < 1117249224 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 64 bit assembly notably different from regular? < 1117249233 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a bunch of crazy 64- and 128-bit registers < 1117249235 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like that < 1117249258 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should be open to languages that are not text based < 1117249330 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too many of them currently, but they might come < 1117249376 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a code example, btw? < 1117249496 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1117249513 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the wikipedia article for Whitespace < 1117249523 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a syntax highlighting graphic that's marked as being public domain, so we can rip it off < 1117249528 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen it < 1117249995 0 :graue_!~graue@ip68-100-135-226.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1117250033 0 :graue_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1117251279 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1117253817 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1117253929 0 :lament!~lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1117254329 0 :graue_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1117256041 0 :malaprop!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"quit" < 1117256445 0 :GregorR-L!~GregorR-L@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1117256453 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a SourceForge plugin for Giki :) < 1117257186 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sourceforge has plugins? < 1117257248 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's better shown than exlained: http://giki.sourceforge.net/?title=Downloads < 1117257307 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could better word that like so: I made a GikiPlugin to render SourceForge content. < 1117257435 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make it work with gforge and savane? < 1117257450 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could probably be slightly modified to work with any *forge.' < 1117257455 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Savanna, probably not. < 1117257470 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :savane is also a sourceforge fork, you know < 1117257474 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is?! < 1117257485 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1117257491 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait ... < 1117257498 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're thinking different softwares X-D < 1117257502 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whew* < 1117257516 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what I was thinking, actually :P < 1117257522 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it could be modified to use them, sure. < 1117257629 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm ... < 1117257637 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Savane page says SourceForge went proprietary ... < 1117257637 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1117257763 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION downloads the SF software ...
< 1117257764 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads COPYING ...
< 1117257771 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees "GNU General Public License"
< 1117257773 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused.
< 1117257972 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't know SourceForge went proprietary? < 1117257982 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only an old version is available under the GPL < 1117258058 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. < 1117258068 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That kind of sucks. < 1117258071 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considers switching his projects to Gna.
< 1117258296 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't provide PHP, it seems < 1117258626 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind then :P < 1117258686 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose some of the code (contributed bits) must still be GPL, but since it's a web site and the GPL has no provisions for web-provided content, it's irrelevent. < 1117258836 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sourceforge was developed by a company, they own it, and they are now trying to sell the "enterprise edition" of it to other companies for obscene amounts of money < 1117258857 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sourceforge.net is an ad for their software < 1117258870 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1117258907 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now deeply saddened < 1117258953 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1117258977 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no company is going to buy sourceforge enterprise edition because of your site, so don't worry about it < 1117259079 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1117259095 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of my site ... < 1117259116 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just released Giki 1.2, which most importantly has a separate download with a bunch of plugins :) < 1117259195 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you lock the flat files so two edits at the same time won't clobber a page? < 1117259213 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but that could be implemented by a plugin :) < 1117259287 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MediaWiki has an in the edit form, and when you post, it checks that against the hash of the latest revision < 1117259291 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they don't match, it doesn't post it < 1117259296 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should do something like that < 1117259348 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, that's a good method ... < 1117259352 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very easy to implement. < 1117259384 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it does have a full history, so even if you do lose something, you don't lose anything *shrugs* < 1117259921 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1117267199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1117267200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1117275988 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1117276058 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's really late night. < 1117276085 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was that who invented time zones? < 1117276103 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some communist < 1117276114 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1117276134 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: around? < 1117276492 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that use of WikiMedia is already stablished, only doubt is about the files section < 1117276520 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whispers Giiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
< 1117276524 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1117276527 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey GregorR-L < 1117276540 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK! < 1117276545 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1117276629 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giki got a positive review at some random guy's blog :) < 1117276652 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, you're becoming famous :) < 1117276658 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh < 1117276693 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, now I'm going to go be week and sleep. < 1117276696 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See you later. < 1117276706 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nite < 1117276708 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1117279852 0 :jix!jix@p5489E7CA.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1117279878 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1117279880 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin jix < 1117283622 0 :J|x!jix@p5489EF86.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1117284343 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1117284346 0 :J|x!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix < 1117290819 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1117290819 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1117291286 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: is svn operational in he files archive now? can I test it? < 1117299752 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1117299804 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1117299822 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1117299839 0 :puzzlet!~puzzlet@61.247.148.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1117299867 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1117303393 0 :calamari!~calamari@dialup-4.240.244.193.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1117303402 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1117303405 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1117304026 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1117304312 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1117304335 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my, what an interesting conversation here today ;) < 1117304648 0 :slav13651!~piecrust@ip68-100-130-21.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1117304648 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1117304648 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1117304648 0 :slav13651!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :graue < 1117304670 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1117304683 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: I'd like to see a final decision about files today < 1117304683 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :svn is ok to me, the only point being that people have to email the files to upload to an editor < 1117304683 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should go with both. i.e. that some files should be allowed in the wiki < 1117304698 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing after the other :) < 1117304714 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we could write a nice web-interface that allows people to submit a file to an editor < 1117304751 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be a good idea < 1117304796 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should that be in the wiki, or on a separate page? < 1117304817 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. I guess we should avoid modifications to the wiki software < 1117304837 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind, but probably the wiki will not be able to cope with that by default, and yes, we should avoid modifications < 1117304865 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that it's not important if that page is not preserved < 1117304878 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1117304893 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the page with the upload interface, I mean < 1117304903 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes. I agre < 1117304904 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1117304907 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when (if) the site moves to a mirror, the setup will probably change < 1117304919 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1117304998 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the files section is good for keeping language distributions etc. < 1117305077 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki images section would have a different purpose < 1117305100 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in mediawiki images and other files are treated as the same < 1117305133 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but uploading e.g. zipped files to the wiki is not a good idea < 1117305152 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not if we have a separate archive < 1117305162 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they should go there < 1117305265 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is: given the additional nuisance of backing up a separate directory just for images, does it pay off? < 1117305289 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I think we should have images in the Wiki! < 1117305317 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be zipped together with the db-dump < 1117305330 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even better: located in the files archive < 1117305359 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's possible < 1117305374 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? because of svn? < 1117305386 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1117305414 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because it would be a pain to reconstruct < 1117305431 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the cronjob that does the database dump could simply include the images in the zip/tar < 1117305470 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we will have most files in the svn it will probably not be very large < 1117305504 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a possibility to keep them in the svn archive, depending on how WikiMedia deals with images; if it can link the image to an URL which is external to the wiki, it could work < 1117305532 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it can < 1117305539 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I might be wrong < 1117305623 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this setup seems not so simple as it looked at first sight huh? < 1117305640 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? what's the problem? < 1117305676 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the MediaWiki + svn etc. < 1117305722 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just two different things to backup. I don't see the problem. < 1117305732 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're approaching three < 1117305750 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :svn up + db backup + wiki images < 1117305759 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said: just include the images in the db backup < 1117305777 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, one more zip to download is not a problem either IMHO < 1117305855 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you CAN use external images in the wiki. < 1117305876 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it's not a good idead < 1117305895 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1117305927 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then people will probably use images on OTHER servers, rather than bothering with contacting an editor < 1117306036 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm worried about having many potential causes of failure < 1117306063 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this is used in the wikipedia, and it seems to work fine < 1117306088 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :images linked from everywhere is REALLY a pain to back up < 1117306132 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1117306138 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :external images would be nasty < 1117306164 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually wanted them to only point to the files section with no other possibility < 1117306188 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe replacing the images directory of the wiki with a link to the files working dir could work < 1117306196 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(provided there's nothing else in there) < 1117306241 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the images doesn't really belong together with the other files. They should be tied to articles < 1117306265 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean something like: files/wiki_images/* < 1117306292 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just the placeholder < 1117306296 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's already separate anyway < 1117306323 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if svn doesn't have a problem with the wiki writing into the file tree, then that would work < 1117306357 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you said earlier that that wouldn't work (or did I misunderstand?) < 1117306365 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, you haven't worked much with svn, right? < 1117306372 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1117306395 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing to be precise < 1117306415 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think of the possibility of linking the images/ dir of the wiki previously < 1117306424 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1117306443 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if that can work then I think it's the best solution < 1117306455 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, AFAIK the images dir can be anywhere on the filesystem as far as the Wiki is concerned, so you don't even need to link < 1117306469 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1117306494 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the upload can't be through the wiki interface < 1117306504 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1117306509 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what's the point? < 1117306540 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is to handle all downloads uniformly (and all uploads too) < 1117306546 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :downloads = backups < 1117306565 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I still don't see why it is a problem backing up the image dir < 1117306604 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, if you don't upload the images through the wiki, then you would be back to external links < 1117306625 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you write a hack to modify the db when you add images.... < 1117306650 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, do they need to be uploaded through the interface in order to be available? < 1117306677 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems that I was thinking in a too HTMLish way < 1117306729 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you upload them through the wiki the gets put in a human-unfriendly hierarchy < 1117306778 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case it won't work anyway < 1117306819 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_file_usage#Uploaded_media_files < 1117306825 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't say it's a problem to back up yet another dir by itself, just that it's another possible point of failure and I don't like that < 1117306881 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum, and how's the upload dir related to the images dir? < 1117306892 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the same < 1117306933 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1117307005 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it because of svn you can't have uploads thorugh the wiki into the files archive? < 1117307024 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it absolutely can't < 1117307039 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the svn filesystem is opaque < 1117307057 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you make it ignore one of the sub dirs? < 1117307068 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. where the wiki files go < 1117307076 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's working copies (wc's) the ones which contain the original files < 1117307124 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one possibility, namely manually commit the files into the archive, but that requires graue keeping the repository up-to-date wrt the wiki < 1117307142 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please no! < 1117307162 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already thought it was a bad idea :) < 1117307260 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will ignore any subdirs in either the opaque repository or the working copy which is exposed for download, that's not a problem < 1117307297 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think that helps anyway < 1117309418 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm writing a c kipple interpreter < 1117310360 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1117310364 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1117312295 0 :Keymaker!~Not@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1117312308 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1117312332 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1117312367 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1117312377 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :world < 1117312383 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1117312391 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 bottles of beer < 1117312405 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better don't paste the song lyrics :) < 1117312411 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1117312415 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we must sing them :p < 1117312428 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION starts singing aloud
< 1117312434 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117312448 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to escape
< 1117312453 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1117312458 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1117312467 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I don't know the music < 1117312481 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure do i know < 1117312485 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it be in midi form somewhere? < 1117312490 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1117312508 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have just some strange idea of melody and picture of pirates singing it.. < 1117312513 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i've gone crazy x) < 1117312523 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean picture in my head) < 1117312537 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as well, melody in my head) < 1117312570 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe someone has to compose it for the first time < 1117312751 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now trying to decode the music from the Cakewalk version (I don't have Cakewalk but the note codes are there) < 1117312803 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1117313248 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"전 이만 갑니다." < 1117315210 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, got the speccy version ready < 1117315280 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1117315329 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a Speccy emulator you can hear it :) < 1117315384 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have < 1117315413 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders on writing it to WAV
< 1117315423 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1117315425 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders on singing it to a WAV
< 1117315425 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1117315429 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d'oh < 1117315431 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad idea! < 1117315433 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1117315435 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117315454 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's better let the speccy put the music... and nothing more < 1117316244 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever used vsound? < 1117316285 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1117317292 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it apparently has a bug but I've worked around it... http://www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/temp/99bottles.ogg < 1117317297 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't blame me :P < 1117317317 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make mp3 :p < 1117317328 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i have any ogg player < 1117317339 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, ok < 1117317359 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1117317472 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/temp/99bottles.mp3 < 1117317498 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many players support ogg anyway < 1117317510 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but using lame is illegal, you know :P < 1117317558 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, just what i had in mind < 1117317561 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the song < 1117317567 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew the melody < 1117317582 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just in doubt for the last part < 1117317616 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's almost impossible to describe on IRC < 1117317630 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good.. i don't understand music :p < 1117317675 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because I don't see how syllabs(sp?) and song notes match < 1117317722 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me no understand < 1117317724 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117317752 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to entirely different thing: quick, go to vote ORK in 99bob page < 1117317756 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"98 bottles" has 4-5 syllabes < 1117317757 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's second on top list < 1117317760 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1117317763 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117317793 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to decide how 98 could be 4 syllables ...
< 1117317800 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117317805 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nine-ty-eight = 3 syllables < 1117317811 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"98" + "bottles" < 1117317816 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bottles = 2 syllables < 1117317831 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's 4-5 :) < 1117317836 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, then it's 5. < 1117317851 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I meant "GregorR tries to decide how 98 could be 2 syllables ..." < 1117317860 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117317870 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may force nine-tyeight if sung, probably < 1117317871 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I meant "No, then it's 5" < 1117317875 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1117317884 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, i can NOT understand why on earth somebody has voted that rexx language < 1117317903 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rexx is that amiga thing? there are many amiga fans < 1117317912 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1117317917 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the language looks < 1117317920 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHA < 1117317920 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not good at all < 1117317924 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just saw ORK on top :P
< 1117317928 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1117317933 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just told about it here :) < 1117317967 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rexx version is trivial < 1117317982 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rexx suxx < 1117318024 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh < 1117318028 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117318058 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doh, the threaded C version sux < 1117318068 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why creating just 10 threads if you can create 99? < 1117318117 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1117318209 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main() { for (i = 0; ; i++) printf("%d bottles of beer in me, %d bottles of beer, I take one down and drink it all down, %d bottles of beer in me!\n", i, i, i+1); } < 1117318236 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117318242 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main() { int i; for (i = 0; ; i++) printf("%d bottles of beer in me, %d bottles of beer, I take one down and drink it all down, %d bottles of beer in me!\n", i, i, i+1); } < 1117318246 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missed something :P < 1117318263 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1117318264 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes the absence of a stop condition
< 1117318272 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1117318280 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no reason to stop ;) < 1117318286 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This poor program is what we call an alcoholic. < 1117318294 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1117318398 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow! Rexx has 3 votes and ork has 4 votes, both at 5.00 < 1117318412 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm ... < 1117318417 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why is Rexx rated above ORK? < 1117318425 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1117318429 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rrrrrrg < 1117318434 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's an esovoting system < 1117318443 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1117318444 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to lower the Rexx version... < 1117318456 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i'll do that too! < 1117318472 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty terrible :P < 1117318483 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rexx:11 < 1117318495 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 < 1117318502 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1117318505 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117318510 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all it's nothing new in my opinion < 1117318511 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORK wins! < 1117318517 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1117318530 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm continue to write cipple the c kipple interpreter < 1117318578 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice! < 1117318587 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :world needs more kipple interpreters < 1117318629 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's going to be pretty fast (i hope so) < 1117318645 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a + (plus) < 1117318733 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to parse the code into a struct-structure and than execute it.. the stack functions/structures are done.. < 1117320482 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, what do I see! more interpreters are always welcome! < 1117320494 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Keymaker: I totally agree :D < 1117320494 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1117320510 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's kipple? < 1117320520 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rune.krokodille.com/lang/kipple/ < 1117320550 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reading up on the log
< 1117320558 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm going to add a special feature: live i/o < 1117320585 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the stack _ poping it is reading a char and pushing it is writing a char < 1117320600 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1117320607 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heresy!!! < 1117320610 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1117320615 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1117320625 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure is that good idea, since it isn't part of the language < 1117320631 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you should leave that out < 1117320640 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but without it i can't write the number guessing game < 1117320654 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1117320664 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since only way to do that in kipple is pseudo-random < 1117320668 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next version of the language has the ability to load customized stacks, so then you could do that < 1117320683 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can as well hit random keys to input and start the program :) < 1117320757 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, kipple is not too bad < 1117320787 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1117320787 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who invented it? < 1117320792 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple < 1117320795 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1117320806 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just noticed ORK ruling the 99 bottles of beer list :)
< 1117320826 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: the one that just said something about ork :) < 1117320854 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe. maybe I should change my nick to avoid more confusion < 1117320859 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1117320864 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117320893 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: i really like the shortcuts < 1117320902 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil and functional :) < 1117320904 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shortcuts? < 1117320904 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are nice < 1117320909 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a>ba? << very useful < 1117320950 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1117320955 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as a+0 < 1117320956 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117320964 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo a-0 ;) < 1117320977 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never underestimate the power of adding zero :) < 1117320984 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) this far the only language that takes advantage of those :) < 1117321011 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in retrospect, though, I regret including the - operator < 1117321022 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117321074 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1117321085 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not having io during execution is ugly < 1117321087 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1117321107 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even lazy k manages to have it < 1117321123 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite it being completely impossible and inappropriate < 1117321134 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it, only bad thing is that you can't make program that prints out infinite sequence < 1117321147 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1117321157 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, can you do that in lazy k? < 1117321158 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? < 1117321161 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, because of stack limitations? < 1117321165 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you < 1117321174 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant that if i make a program < 1117321177 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to print out < 1117321178 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1117321178 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1117321179 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1117321179 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1117321180 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1117321183 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, lazy k can print out infinite sequences < 1117321184 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :65423.. < 1117321186 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32480928340928340923 < 1117321194 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't print them < 1117321201 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1117321207 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117321214 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanna do that you have to wait for Kipple 05 < 1117321227 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it be an ISO standard? < 1117321239 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need ESO standards ! < 1117321240 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. no. maybe ESO... ;) < 1117321242 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1117321277 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :question about wiki < 1117321286 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it usable? should i put stuff on there? < 1117321291 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1117321299 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it die within days? < 1117321305 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1117321307 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1117321309 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1117321320 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not unless you consider 10,000+ days days, then it is possible < 1117321328 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know of its existance? < 1117321345 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language with a prime generating example will never die! < 1117321372 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1117321376 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1117321406 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i linked to it from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_language, so everyone will soon know of its existence < 1117321422 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the ESO standard: http://lilly.csoft.net/~jeffryj/programs/esoapi/esoapi.html < 1117321494 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: about the files, are you going to enable MediaWiki uploads? (they need to be backed up too) < 1117321515 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest zipping them together with the db-dump < 1117321535 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only allow certain file types (images and perhaps some others) < 1117321828 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know they weren't enabled, i'll see < 1117321829 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a mean thing to do to Rexx :P < 1117321848 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1117321855 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i agree with cpressey < 1117321857 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether they are, I'm just asking if it's in your plans < 1117321860 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file repository is more important than wiki < 1117321872 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ftp is probably the best solution < 1117321884 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anonymous write-only FTP? < 1117321895 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, not write-only, but no-overwrite < 1117321907 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anonymous write is not a good idea < 1117321923 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally, with a maintainer < 1117321935 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: Why not? < 1117321947 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had one once, and it was quickly hijacked by software pirates < 1117321956 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome :'( < 1117321958 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less ideally, a bunch of admins who can give out logins in this channel for example < 1117321975 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just think the more humans involved in giving access, the worse. < 1117321978 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :limit upload to 2mb/day/ip for anonymous < 1117321979 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1117321983 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is true < 1117321997 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :upload limit ought to work, i think. < 1117321997 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good < 1117322010 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking of the Doom levels database < 1117322030 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that requires a very dedicated maintainer < 1117322049 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a file-size limit rather than a bandwidth limit? < 1117322051 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works like this: < 1117322059 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you provide an anonymous FTP with those specifications, that will be easy to back up, and possible to access over HTTP? < 1117322060 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a 100k file size limit, it's worthless for pirates, but useful for esolangs. < 1117322069 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no anonymous upload, except into /incoming < 1117322079 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no downloading from /incoming < 1117322088 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maintainer moves stuff from /incoming by hand < 1117322101 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(once weekly or something) < 1117322103 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my idea: a registered user has it's own directory for managing his files... and everyone can generate symlinks for categories etc.. example: kipple has his java interpreter in /users/kipple symlink to /langs/kipple/interpreters i have my c in /users/jix symlink to /langs/kipple/interpreters < 1117322105 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could work. don't think it will be that much traffic < 1117322107 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorting misc. stuff is hard - what's wrong with uploads anywhere, but no overwrites? < 1117322127 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there could still be vandalism < 1117322142 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :filesize is a bad idea imho < 1117322144 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people would store their porn jpg collections, etc < 1117322147 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess if somebody wrote "kipple-1.1.zip" into the kipple dir, bad :P < 1117322154 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some esoteric things do have more than 100k files < 1117322165 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is, if it was not kipple-1.1.zip) < 1117322170 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, OK, I give, I give ;) < 1117322219 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the doom community has been fortunate enough to have the same person in charge of the archive for 10 years < 1117322225 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interpreter is done.. it's time for the parser < 1117322304 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1117322317 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ftp is a nice solution, as long as there is anonymous read acces over HTTP as well. svn might be a bit overkill for this < 1117322327 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw why ftp rather than subversion? Because we don't need a version control system, just a repository) < 1117322354 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, overkill < 1117322377 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slips into his brand new, hypoallergenic shoes and struts away.
< 1117322378 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also as i understand it would be for complete (more or less) projects < 1117322385 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the idea that every user has it's own directory and symlinking into the global repo < 1117322390 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not projects in development that need a version control system < 1117322396 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, svn was suggested because graue couldn't provide anonymous ftp IIRC < 1117322436 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was something like "not optimal but works" < 1117322477 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher would be even better than ftp :)))))) < 1117322483 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you guys are making the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_solution_fallacy with all these great ideas that would have problems of their own, and will not be implemented < 1117322485 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :webdav < 1117322499 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, anyone who wants a svn account, insecurely send me a private message with the username and password you want < 1117322528 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: but ftp is pretty much the simplest solution < 1117322545 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: but i can't offer it, so it isn't < 1117322551 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mac os x is still not able to write to ftp using the finder < 1117322555 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :svn is the simplest solution, actually, because it's already set up < 1117322572 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm able to setup everything i want < 1117322588 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: what about that propchange error? was that because of a wrong hook script or something? < 1117322591 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my server is slow, has a bandwidth limit, and is slow, and has only a 4gb harddisk < 1117322599 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. is it reliable? < 1117322611 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4gb ought to be enough for all esoteric languages ever created in the galaxy :) < 1117322620 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but 3gb are in use < 1117322661 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be nice for something like ibiblio to give us space < 1117322734 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or google :) < 1117322737 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what propchange error? < 1117322743 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric.google.com :) < 1117322754 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1117322798 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: iirc you had some issue with aura and subversion < 1117322819 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that was my web browser < 1117322836 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a bug involving downloading of files in a gzip-compressed way < 1117322841 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1117322865 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a commit < 1117322921 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i need a svn client to upload to svn? To download from svn? < 1117322937 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to upload < 1117322957 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to minimize download < 1117322957 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: yes to both, but you can also download files from HTTP < 1117322997 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1117323194 0 :calamari!~calamari@dialup-4.240.241.110.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1117323483 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: so about the backups, what is needed is a database dump and the wiki uploads dir; can you set up those? < 1117323489 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1117323528 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Whitespace < 1117323529 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray < 1117323540 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I think it's all ready to get rolling < 1117323556 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat! < 1117323590 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like your image policy :) < 1117323615 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a kipple to brainfuck compiler yet? < 1117323624 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1117323640 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: who can upload images? < 1117323642 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should like to see that < 1117323646 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there isn't? < 1117323654 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. only interpreter < 1117323665 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, okay < 1117323676 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'll write one < 1117323686 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :handling the 26 different stacks in BF would be a nightmare IMHO, but good luck! < 1117323714 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, should be simple < 1117323716 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but then I'm not much of a brainfucker) < 1117323720 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsing kipple would be the hardest part < 1117323721 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say so < 1117323876 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno, anyone with an account i think < 1117323888 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1117323926 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck lament < 1117323931 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be a hard job i guess < 1117323966 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :harder than the stacks would be the big numbers, i guess < 1117323984 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you'll do the work on 8-bit implementation < 1117323995 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that i recommend ;)) < 1117324004 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i don't want to do that :) < 1117324023 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)