00:04:56 hi 00:05:17 wooby: I'm afraid there's a problem with virtual hosting in esolangs.org 00:06:10 Keymaker: nice work your 99BOB :) 00:10:18 oh, yeah, esoteric.voxelperfect.net is a name-based virtual host 00:10:27 i'll have to set up an alias for esolangs.org, i think i can do that though 00:11:00 oh, it's good you can do that yourself, here it is not free 00:11:44 i get 15 domains and/or subdomains, and infinite aliases for those, i think 00:11:58 haven't tried it before though 00:17:45 cool, it's working 00:26:47 hmm. Chef is actually a bit like Kipple :D 00:27:36 yay, nice graue! 00:28:07 hey, thank wooby 00:28:11 registering the domain was the hard part 00:28:34 of course! thanks wooby :) 00:30:27 graue and wooby: nice! 00:47:34 *.esolangs.org points there 00:48:04 so if you so choose, you can make wiki.esolangs.org 00:49:09 nah, esolangs.org/wiki is fine 00:50:13 cool 00:50:52 esolangs.org/wiki doesn't work though. must use esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page 01:00:31 -!- wooby has quit. 01:40:34 i must fix that 01:50:48 what happened to cipple? 01:51:07 it's no longer online 02:03:38 -!- GregorR-L has joined. 02:08:24 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 02:14:11 hello, GregorR-L 02:14:18 Hullo 02:17:13 what's with the 2L language's lack of input and output? 02:18:11 TL0 and TL1 do input and output. 02:18:13 http://www.gertler.com/nat/abusedimages.html 02:18:45 pretty esoteric 02:19:02 is it possible to do anything practical with TL0 and TL1? 02:20:37 Well, is Hello World practical? :P 02:23:47 By the way, "what's with it" is that it was the only way I could figure out how to get rid of that pesky third instruction ;) 02:27:41 hmm 02:27:47 maybe i'll make an improved version, 3L 02:28:22 Why? 02:28:57 That is ... 02:29:04 Would the third instruction be I/O? 02:29:24 I'm not positive how much putting I/O in TL0/1 hurts the turing completeness *shrugs* 02:29:49 Wait ... 02:29:57 It doesn't, since I/O is irrelevent to turing completeness. 02:30:07 oh, the 2 is number of instructions 02:30:11 i hadn't realized that 02:30:19 Hmm, it ought to say that >_> 02:30:22 and yes, I/O is irrelevant to Turing completeness 02:30:39 by the way, you technically have a third instruction: whitespace 02:31:26 That's true, since it has significance to the location of the program pointer which in turn has significance to how many instructions you can fit. 02:32:18 also, you say that the program pointer starts out moving down 02:32:22 but in your example it starts out moving right 02:32:31 it's the 2 language for approximate value of 2 02:32:38 The example was just a chunk from somewhere in the middle *shrugs* 02:33:13 It would need to be turned right in the beginning anyway. 02:33:39 you should make it clear that that isn't a complete program then 02:35:22 Yes. 02:38:18 i think a language should be called "Turing Complete Plus" if it can perform arbitrary operations on streams of input and output 02:39:13 or maybe Unix-complete 02:39:43 If you could write sed in it X-D 02:40:58 * GregorR-L goes back to writing an esoteric programming plugin for Giki >:) 02:57:04 YAY! Got BF working at least :) 03:53:25 -!- GregorR-L has quit ("Leaving"). 05:22:35 -!- GregorR-L has joined. 07:10:27 -!- dbc has joined. 07:10:41 ->++>+++>+>+>+++>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>++>+++>++>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 07:10:41 >>>>>>>>>>>+>+>>+++>>>>+++>>>+++>+>>>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++> 07:10:41 >>+>+>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>>>+>+>>>+>+>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>+++>+>+++>+>++>+++>+ 07:10:41 +>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>+++>+>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>+++>+>>+++>>+++>>+[[> 07:10:44 >+[>]+>+[<]<-]>>[>]<+<+++[<]<<+]>+[>>]+++>+[+[<++++++++++++++++>-]<++++++++++.<] 07:11:35 Slightly modified version of Erik Bosman's quine. 400 bytes. 07:11:50 Or if we want to avoid using negative numbers, 540 bytes: 07:12:03 >+++>++++>++>++>++++>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>++>++>+++>++++>++ 07:12:03 +>+>++++>++>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>++>+ 07:12:03 +>+>++++>+>+>+>++++>++>++>+++>++++>++++>++>++++>++>+>++++>+>+>++++>++>+++>++++>+ 07:12:03 +>++>++>++>+++>++++>++>++>+>++++>+>+>+>+>++++>++>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+++>++++>++++>+ 07:12:03 +>+>++++>++++>++>++++>++>+++>++++>+++>+>++>++>+++>++++>++>++>+>++++>+>+>++++>++> 07:12:03 +>+>+++>++++>++++>++>+>++++>+>+>++++>++>++++>++>+>++++>+>++++[[>>+[>]+>+[<]<-]>> 07:12:05 [>]++++>++[<]<<]>+[>>]<[+[<++++++++++++++++>-]<++++++++++.<] 07:50:02 Hmm 07:50:09 That's extreme. 07:50:33 Would the version with negatives work in an 8-bit wrap environment? 07:50:56 (that is, where 0-1 = 255) 07:56:10 -!- graue_ has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:05:38 Yes. 08:06:41 Or 7-bit for that matter. 08:06:53 hello dbc 08:06:57 Hi. 08:18:00 (goodbye) 08:18:03 -!- dbc has quit ("you have no chance to survive make your time."). 08:18:44 -!- graue has quit ("Are you a Schweinpenis? If so, type "I am not a Schweinpenis.""). 08:19:08 -!- graue_ has changed nick to graue. 08:20:46 What's a Schweinpenis? 08:37:20 Perhaps a pig's penis? 08:38:09 Schwein means pig. 08:38:13 ah 08:38:20 strange 08:38:29 Yes, very ;) 08:38:35 do pig's penises always lie or something? 08:39:06 Why is he so racist against ... uh ... pig ... penises ... 08:39:26 pig means strange things in german 08:40:32 strange penis? 08:41:12 "Are you a Peyronie's penis?" 08:42:58 it's a joke 08:43:07 if you type "I am not a Schweinpenis," you are assumed to actually be one 08:43:16 it attempts the trick less attentive readers 08:43:31 Yes, I think we all saw that ;) 08:43:39 i didn't 08:43:39 But it's no fun without unnecessary analyses. 08:44:01 i'm not sure how inattentive you have to be to not notice the "Are you a Schweinpenis? If so, type" part 08:44:09 the specifics of what exactly constitutes a Schweinpenis are not really important, given the nature of the joke 08:44:32 i would prefer to have it in reverse 08:44:48 If you're not a Schweinpenis, type "I'm a Schweinpenis" 08:45:03 that's a bit more obvious, though 08:53:44 which is a better URL, esoteric.voxelperfect.net or esolangs.org? 08:53:55 esolangs.org 08:54:01 okay 08:54:20 MediaWiki doesn't behave well when there are two different hostnames, apparently 08:54:35 Hmm 08:55:00 hmm 08:55:13 esolangs.org 08:56:55 should esolangs.org just redirect to the wiki? you could have a file link there 08:57:26 The DNS can always be switched around, just as easily as a redirect. 08:58:34 is there any kind of esolang symbol or logo or something? 08:59:21 Nobody can think of something esoteric enough :P 08:59:30 impossible triangle? :P 09:11:49 the hacker logo :) 09:12:58 eye in the pyramid 09:20:21 -!- GregorR-L has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 09:21:33 some piet code might make a nice logo 09:29:47 finally, a use for piet :) 10:18:11 i'm forbidden from accessing http://rune.krokodille.com/lang/kipple/samples/square.k 10:40:21 -!- graue has quit ("Leaving"). 12:10:34 -!- kipple has joined. 12:32:56 -!- jix has joined. 12:34:18 moin 12:34:26 moin 12:53:20 -!- Keymaker has joined. 12:53:54 wow 12:54:00 dbc was here 12:54:16 really neat quines 12:54:58 awesome.. 12:56:10 well, must go. 12:56:14 -!- Keymaker has left (?). 12:57:14 moinmoin 13:04:32 jix: did you write a dc version of 99BOB? 13:04:41 yes 13:04:51 but the version i submitted has some overhead 13:04:53 is it the one already listed there? 13:05:22 there is a dc version ? 13:05:42 yeah, see the guestbook ;) 13:06:15 I thought I saw it somewhere when you mentioned it 13:06:29 it's not my version 13:06:41 oh, I see 13:06:43 and my is cleaner 13:07:15 http://rafb.net/paste/results/b5mucz43.html 13:10:14 hum, yours prints "1 bottle" correctly; the one in there doesn't 13:10:28 cleaner and better 13:10:36 indeed 13:10:45 i like the dc language 13:11:17 it's like an esolang.. but it's installed everywhere (ignore windows) 13:11:23 hehe 13:11:34 I like sed, for the same reasons. 13:11:41 I've got it installed (cygwin) 13:15:24 fizzie: but if you want to use sed as an esolang you have to use the Thue paradigm 13:16:58 We-ell, you can use sed like one would an ordinary imperative language, it's just a bit unelegant. 13:18:31 really? 13:19:09 well, I don't know enough sed actually 13:19:32 so that was probably a wrong assumption on my side 13:19:37 It has conditional jumps (b, t) and s/// can be used for arithmetic. See http://www.gehennom.org/~fis/fib.sed for an example, albeit an ugly one. 13:21:41 wow, neat! 13:22:42 it's probably easy to write Keymaker's favorite :) 13:23:15 (finding the digital root of a number, that is) 13:23:55 is there a digital root thing for kipple ? 13:24:01 It uses decimal numbers, some of my other sed programs use unary arithmetic since addition is a lot simpler that way. perf.sed in the same URL (well, different filename, obviously), for example, finds the perfect numbers. 13:24:05 * jix 's new favorite language is kipple 13:24:42 jix: really? that's nice :) 13:24:52 (And then there's bef.sed, a really incomplete befunge interpreter.) 13:24:53 dunno, jix - ask Keymaker ;( 13:24:54 ;) 13:25:18 I'd like to continue bef.sed, but I'm not quite sure how it works. 13:25:25 (Or if it works at all.) 13:25:35 did you write it? 13:26:00 * kipple is currently having fun with Chef 13:26:01 Well, yes. 13:26:05 But that was in 2003 or something. 13:26:24 kipple: 99bob? :) 13:26:32 jix: I don't think there is a digital root prog in Kipple 13:26:37 It _looks_ like it would use binary numbers (stored as 01011010-like strings) for coordinates. 13:26:38 pgimeno: yes 13:26:44 fizzie: anyway it's pretty cool 13:27:31 fizzie: why? maybe because it's easier to make operatins that way? 13:27:46 Probably. The adder routine for decimal numbers was ~100 lines long. 13:27:54 yuck 13:27:54 Or was it 200, can't remember. 13:28:07 scary 13:29:05 hm, sounds like it should be easier than that (haven't tried though) 13:29:09 The 'determine current command from the playfield according to the binary coordinates' part of bef.sed is moderately clever. 13:30:41 It checks for set bits and discards either the top or bottom half of the playfield accordingly. 13:30:46 s/^\(..1....[^\n]*\n[^\n]*\n\)\([^\n]*\n\)\{16\}\(.*\)/\1\3/ isn't very pretty, though. 13:32:49 I tend to agree about the prettiness :) 13:34:01 and I might agree about the cleverness if I understood that ;) 13:37:09 kipple: but there is one 13:38:17 jix: one what? 13:38:26 14:27:34jix: I don't think there is a digital root prog in Kipple 13:38:47 there is? 13:38:49 on my harddisk 13:38:50 ;) 13:38:59 aha! 13:40:07 * kipple is reading up on what a digital root actuall is 13:41:26 hey, that's pretty neat! 13:43:03 www.harderweb.de/jix/cipple/droot.k and www.harderweb.de/jix/cipple/square.k 13:43:25 is that the same square.k, or a new version? 13:43:54 the same 13:43:57 but on my server 13:44:10 so i's going to stay online 13:44:27 I've added it to the Kipple page as well 13:45:27 -!- jix has quit (Remote closed the connection). 13:47:12 -!- jix has joined. 13:47:42 my irc client stated to use 99% cpu 13:47:44 0o 13:53:09 which client? 13:57:33 xchat 13:57:35 (aqua) 13:58:31 interesting: http://www.befunge.org/fyb/fyb/README 13:58:55 yeah :) 14:29:24 -!- jix has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 15:06:37 fizzie: around? 15:29:35 anyway, here's my 46-line decimal adder in sed: http://www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/temp/addsed-1.txt 15:30:41 oops 15:30:57 http://www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/temp/addsed-r.txt 15:33:01 ZeroOne: I forgot, thanks for putting your Wikipedia articles into public domain! 16:30:01 -!- jix has joined. 17:42:45 -!- Keymaker has joined. 17:42:55 grrh jix! 17:43:11 i'll do my own version some day :) 17:44:34 hehe 17:44:38 hi Keymaker 17:44:42 hi 17:45:14 i think i could take 'befunge interpreter in brainfuck' to my summer project 17:45:58 would offer plenty of challenge (which i actually don't need) 17:48:37 hehe 17:48:44 :) 17:48:56 the random generator wouldn't be the best 17:49:16 but i have some ideas in my sleeve 17:49:29 oh 17:49:39 and another brainfuck related idea 17:49:47 i've had for a while (maybe a day) 17:49:52 would be that 17:49:59 it might be cool to have something 17:50:18 brainfuck related e-zine / magazine 17:50:36 wow, that's a cool idea 17:50:41 cheers 17:51:27 there's a trouble though 17:51:31 ha? 17:51:46 the interested people are in geographic points.... heterogeneous 17:52:15 distribution can be a pain 17:52:25 brr 17:52:28 e-zine 17:52:36 :) 17:52:37 I was thinking about the printed one 17:52:40 ah 17:52:45 sorry :) 17:52:49 ok :) 17:52:55 although, printed one would be really cool! 17:53:07 but i'd have no place to print it and stamps would pay too much 17:53:46 no way, you wouldn't pay for the stamps 17:54:36 heh. What would you call such a magazine? 17:54:43 er... 17:54:51 good question :) 17:55:02 hmm 17:55:04 i was about to say that 17:55:08 maybe 17:55:12 Brainfuck Letter 17:55:16 Brainfuck Programmer 17:55:23 The Daily Brainfucj 17:55:32 Brainfuck 17:55:40 The Daily Brainfuck -- every 7 months! 17:55:44 haha 17:55:46 ;) 17:56:19 why just brainfuck? why not include other esolangs? 17:56:30 i've thought about that as well 17:56:33 need to go, bbl 17:56:37 bye 17:56:44 might be good idea as well, kipple 17:57:21 but probably virtual/electronic magazine would be better, i assume 17:58:00 oh, and naturally the magazine would appear every time 'when it's done' :) 17:58:37 naturally 17:59:02 :) 17:59:34 but anyways; which one do you prefer: brainfuck or brainfuck & other lower esolanguage forms :) 18:00:32 I imagine it would be a lot easier to find stuff to fill it with if you include other langs 18:00:39 yeah 18:00:43 not sure how much you can say about brainfuck 18:00:51 :) 18:00:58 i'll have to think about it 18:01:09 an esolang newsletter would be pretty cool 18:01:19 yeah 18:01:33 you could call it Quine 18:01:40 that's nice name! 18:01:45 a printed magazine would be awesome, but I think electronic is the way to go 18:01:50 yeah 18:01:53 CXI: I like it! 18:02:36 Quine -- bringing you the esolang news since 2005!Quine -- bringing you the esolang news since 2005! 18:02:38 :) 18:02:42 haha 18:03:34 Sample quine in HQ9+ 18:03:34 Q 18:03:35 ah, man 18:03:48 I can't help but laugh whenever I see an HQ9+ program 18:03:58 hehe 18:04:00 yeah 18:04:27 it's quick to write Hello World with that language, as well.. 18:04:28 H 18:04:32 :D 18:04:41 :) 18:04:47 99 bottles of beer is pretty cool too 18:05:00 heh 18:05:16 it's funny, I think they just included the accumulator operation because the language sounds much better with "plus" on the end 18:06:10 heh 18:06:20 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ it's so useful +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 18:07:50 anyways, an esolang magazine would be nice since there could be allkinds of cool information about new languages, cool programs and 18:08:02 other related, like cellular automaton perhaps etc. 18:10:22 and getting news about the happenings of esolang "community" can be a bit hard 18:10:36 "The Esoteric Programming Language Magazine With No Pronounceable Acronym" 18:10:36 (for obvious reasons, abbreviated "QUINE") 18:10:49 :) 18:11:04 not to mention that something cool stuff can be only noticed on some page "my friend [name] made this cool program to [purpose of program]" and so on. 18:11:21 like much stuff happen and one can't know it unless accidentally ending up to some site 18:11:39 true 18:11:52 the mailinglist isn't exactly much help there anymore 18:12:23 i don't even read it :) 18:13:18 you don't? I thought I'd seen posts from you there? 18:13:28 or maybe that was friends of bf? 18:13:36 friends of brainfuck i read 18:13:54 (they get sorted into the same folder in my mail, so I tend to confuse them) 18:14:05 i once tried sending e-mail to esolangs list about that bfcc #1 (iirc) but not sure if it got there 18:14:28 probably dbc sent it, can't remember :) 18:14:41 who 18:14:43 but i have posted some messages to friends of brainfuck 18:14:45 's dbc? 18:14:48 daniel b. cristofani 18:14:55 ah. of course 18:14:58 fyb war ? 18:15:04 ? 18:15:19 my fyb prog is better than all example progs 18:15:27 i need challenge 18:15:28 what is fyb? 18:15:56 http://www.befunge.org/fyb/fyb/README 18:16:06 ah yes 18:16:12 tell gregor about it :p 18:17:25 GregorR: 18:17:30 *tell* 18:18:04 but one may consider one of it's strategies as cheating ;) 18:23:39 the esolang wiki is down already :( 18:23:49 :\ 18:23:51 let's hope it's just a minor problem 18:23:57 yeah 18:24:09 the fun didn't last long :) 18:27:12 test 18:27:19 _.---._ .---. 18:27:19 __...---' .---. `---'-. `. 18:27:19 .-''__.--' _.'( | )`. `. `._ : 18:27:19 .'__-'_ .--'' ._`---'_.-. `. `-`. 18:27:19 ~ -._ -._``---. -. `-._ `. 18:27:19 ~ -.._ _ _ _ ..-_ `. `-._``--.._ 18:27:21 -~ -._ `-. -. `-._``--.._.--''. 18:27:23 ~ ~-.__ -._ `-.__ `. `. 18:27:25 jgs ~~ ~---...__ _ ._ .` `. 18:27:27 ~ ~--.....--~ 18:27:29 cool crocodile 18:27:31 from 18:27:33 http://www.chris.com/ascii/ 18:27:54 amazing what can be done with the characters 18:31:15 -!- ChanServ has quit (Shutting Down). 18:32:17 test 18:32:20 -!- Keymaker has left (?). 18:34:16 -!- Keymaker2 has joined. 18:34:40 i didn't know if i was disconnected or not so i hit 'disconnect' button by myself 18:34:48 -!- Keymaker2 has changed nick to Keymaker. 18:36:43 -!- jix has quit (Remote closed the connection). 18:37:04 -!- jix has joined. 18:42:58 -!- ChanServ has joined. 18:42:58 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 18:47:27 hm. i think i'll go to read. the last exam before 2.5 month vacation is tomorrow.. 18:47:48 it's gonna feel awesome when i get home tomorrow -- finally i have some spare time! :D 18:47:51 by the way, 18:48:02 if i remember correct i first came to this channel around this time 18:48:13 bye. 18:48:15 -!- Keymaker has quit ("Freedom!"). 19:19:39 pgimeno; We-ell, if you convert to unary first, you might as well keep all the numbers in that representation and just convert to decimal before printing. (Nice 4-hour lag I have in answering.) 19:24:21 So, "the last exam before 2.5 month vacation is in 0.033 months"? 19:25:41 fizzie: that's a good idea too 19:25:47 jix: *G-ASP*! 19:25:56 logicex-1.fyb defeated?! 19:26:34 yes 19:26:45 but i would call my strategy cheating 19:26:55 Well, send it to me by some means :P 19:26:58 Lemme see. 19:28:30 http://www.harderweb.de/jix/langs/fyb/progs/nodefect.fyb 19:29:31 No comments eh :P 19:29:37 what kind of "cheating" are we talking about here? 19:30:35 i first wrote a normal strategy .. but it wasn't able to defeat logicex.. and only drawed AllTricks.. so i "tuned" it for them.. but then antoher app drawed my.. so i retuned it for that prog too 19:30:55 Ohh :-P 19:30:56 the first line kills the self repairs of 3 progs 19:31:12 Since they can't defect 19:31:35 oh nodefect.. the name doesn't fit anymore 19:31:41 Ahh :-P 19:31:44 Nice 19:32:16 but, yes i change the code after the defect too.. but that's not fast enough for all apps.. that's the reason for the first line 19:32:50 and i'm always using **** because some progs are deleting *s 19:33:22 *big paste coming* 19:33:26 nodefect.fyb 19:33:27 [d] allTricks-1.fyb 19:33:27 [x] disableLoopsAndBomb-1.fyb 19:33:27 [x] findAndDestroy-1.fyb 19:33:27 [x] logicex-1.fyb 19:33:27 [x] mangler-1.fyb 19:33:29 [x] nodefect.fyb 19:33:31 [x] nothing-1.fyb 19:33:33 [x] selfReplicating-1.fyb 19:33:35 total points: 7 19:33:48 why does it draw allTricks ? 19:34:02 You have to run it both ways to tell. 19:34:19 IE ./fukyorbrane a.fyb b.fyb and ./fukyorbrane b.fyb a.fyb are different. 19:34:20 i'm using the report script 19:34:24 Really ... ? 19:34:25 Hmm 19:34:33 oh.. my fault.. ^^ 19:34:42 OK :P 19:34:58 But yeah, it whooped me silly. 19:35:05 Mind if I add it to the site? 19:35:23 if you credit me.. no problem 19:35:42 You should put a lame copyright at the top like I do. 19:36:55 done 19:37:18 Ahh, good ol' even-weaker-than-the-alread-weak MIT/X Consortium license :P 19:37:26 *already-weak 19:37:35 I'll post it in a bit. 19:38:17 Then I'll try to defeat it :) 19:39:30 it's strategy: kill allTricks,findAndDestroy,logicex, self repair, destroy @... code, try 4 times to lay a bomb to the opponents position(i added a ! in the +++s .. no idea why^^), bombing! 19:40:39 and the interpreter segfaults / buserrors sometimes 19:45:20 i tried to write a program that writes :; into the program to let it fork and fork.. but fyb crashes if i try to do that 19:55:03 You do know that forks only run once? 19:55:19 If you do :;, that'll just be two forks. 19:55:23 Not infinite. 19:56:33 I still don't know why that would crash, buuuut :P 19:57:34 * GregorR just remembered that "nothing" defeats "mangler". That is hilarious :P 20:01:34 -!- wooby has joined. 20:03:19 i don't add one :; i add :;:;:;:;:;:;... so at every position of the program is a pointer 20:05:45 Hmm 20:05:56 I'll look in to that. 20:05:58 In a bit. 20:06:10 Since that ought to be a valid strategy. 20:06:30 -!- GregorR-L has joined. 20:07:12 WUAHAHAHA my :; adder (i change it so it doesn't add to much of them) is very good 20:07:34 >_> 20:07:45 How many pts? 20:07:47 but it still segfaults 20:07:52 i'm optimizing it 20:07:58 and i have some more dummy bots in here 20:08:00 Oh :P 20:09:18 logicex [d] simplething.fyb 20:09:36 Oooooooooooooooooooooooh 20:09:50 but it still segfaults 20:09:56 in some matches 20:11:20 Thread 0 Crashed: 20:11:20 0 fukyorbrane 0x00002aec execcmd + 1212 (fukyorbrane.c:464) 20:11:20 1 fukyorbrane 0x000032ec main + 1204 (fukyorbrane.c:206) 20:11:20 2 fukyorbrane 0x00001b30 _start + 348 (crt.c:272) 20:11:20 3 fukyorbrane 0x000019d0 start + 60 20:11:37 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) 20:11:41 Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x00206749 20:12:44 simplething: draw: disableLoopsAndBomb, findAndDestroy, logicex, mangler.. no looses 20:15:54 no draws! 20:16:25 OMFG. 20:16:35 Deathdeathdeath. 20:17:48 http://www.harderweb.de/jix/langs/fyb/progs/simplething.fyb 20:18:36 and no tuned cheat code 20:19:02 even more simpler 20:19:14 updated 20:19:45 away for.. 15mins 20:29:16 simplething.fyb 20:29:16 [x] allTricks-1.fyb 20:29:16 [x] disableLoopsAndBomb-1.fyb 20:29:16 [x] findAndDestroy-1.fyb 20:29:16 [x] logicex-1.fyb 20:29:19 [x] mangler-1.fyb 20:29:21 [x] nodefect.fyb 20:29:22 [x] nothing-1.fyb 20:29:24 [x] selfReplicating-1.fyb 20:29:26 [x] simplething.fyb 20:29:28 total points: 9 20:29:30 I'm going to go cry into my pillow. 20:35:23 and it's a simple thing.. ;) 20:35:44 I just changed the point system so it's more useful. 20:35:54 It's now adjusted to a range of -100 - 100 20:36:16 you know the corewar hills ? 20:36:25 Mmmhmm 20:36:41 i'm going to host hills for fyb 20:36:48 Awesome++ 20:36:59 If you want me to do any coding in PHP, I'm game. 20:37:17 Ahhh NOOOO PHP!!! 20:37:23 Ooooooooooooooooooooh, perl guy? 20:37:29 NOOOO PERL ??!??!?!? 20:37:43 What's your language of choice? 20:37:45 ruby 20:37:48 and kipple 20:37:52 but not for web apps 20:38:05 Ruby isn't bad. 20:38:47 i hope the segfaults are mac os x only 20:38:58 I'm not getting them in GNU/Linux-land. 20:39:08 Unless the latest version doesn't do them? 20:39:22 my server is running debian so it's safe to use the interpreter 20:39:30 Coolio 20:39:31 the latest version doesn't do them 20:39:45 I await a very cool webapp :) 20:40:16 Oh, adjust the score like so: Points = ((-100 * losses) + (100 * wins)) / count 20:40:26 Or similar. 20:41:18 try to defeat simplething i want challenge 20:41:34 I'm trying, I'm trying :'( 20:42:49 i'm trying too ;) 20:50:40 AHAHAHA 20:50:41 gtg 20:50:43 later 20:50:46 I made a complicated mangler that defeats simple! 20:50:47 Bye pgimeno 20:51:21 It gets -20 points, but we'll ignore that. 20:52:32 is simplething still #1 ? 20:52:39 stupid question ^^ 20:53:30 Very much so 20:54:21 -!- GregorR-L has quit (Nick collision from services.). 20:54:43 -!- GregorR-L has joined. 20:56:04 is logicix your best prog ? 20:56:27 I believe so :( 20:56:38 ':{>}[+]++++++++++++++!;********' beats logicix 20:56:51 but simplething too ?! 20:57:00 Yeah, I know findanddestroy beat logicex. 20:57:22 ok always quit using multiple *s 20:58:13 To make mangler defect, partially, but what's your reason? 20:58:30 Not that I did that ;) 21:00:25 BTW, it's awesome that somebody else has taken an interest in FYB, you rock ;) 21:06:12 because some bots try to delete them ... if you put more of them in the code they need more time and you can quit some of your threads (no floating pointers) 21:06:41 Oh, of course 21:06:59 logicex, specifically :P 21:11:28 only simplething and findAndDestroy to beat 21:12:53 only find and destroy 21:12:54 left 21:15:14 no one left 21:16:03 I now hate you :P 21:16:09 :p 21:16:16 I'm going to wait for you to stop beating yourself before I try ;) 21:16:31 -!- CXI has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:16:57 -!- CXI has joined. 21:16:59 http://www.harderweb.de/jix/langs/fyb/progs/runbomber.fyb 21:19:16 oh copyright... 21:20:04 updated 21:20:09 now 21:20:20 I make the weakest copyright ever, and yet people are reluctant to use it ;) 21:20:38 everyone should use my code 21:20:41 Good comment :P 21:20:55 but i can give no warranty so.. why not use that license ? 21:21:38 If you used NO license, in all technicality nobody would have any right to do anything with your code. 21:22:11 Though publishing it online implies right for single-use exclusive distribution. 21:22:53 Unless you explicitly said "this is in the public domain" 21:22:59 Which is very different from unlicensed. 21:23:39 21:23:46 write a bot that beats all others, please! 21:24:03 I'm trying >_< 21:24:07 I'm crying >_< 21:25:21 i have a new idea 21:26:00 DAMN YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU 21:26:04 :P 21:26:07 ^^ 21:27:45 -!- wooby has quit. 21:30:15 /away giving you a (little) chance to beat me 21:30:41 I'm actually dealing with upgrading computers right now, so don't really have time to write FYB progs at the moment :P 21:41:00 Hmm. 21:41:49 Still with the no comments :P 21:43:21 This is random bombings! 21:43:23 GAAA 21:43:24 >_< 21:45:26 runbomber.fyb [x] allTricks-1.fyb [x] disableLoopsAndBomb-1.fyb [x] findAndDestroy-1.fyb [x] logicex-1.fyb [x] mangler-1.fyb [x] nodefect.fyb [x] nothing-1.fyb [x] runbomber.fyb [x] selfReplicating-1.fyb [x] simplething.fyb total points: 100 22:01:58 lol 22:02:02 /back 22:04:47 i commented runbomber 22:08:59 Awesome. 22:10:37 a seeker is :{>}; a fast seeker is (i don't know if they are faster but it seems so) :{>>}; and :>{>>}; 22:15:37 I don't think it's faster, but it's harder to catch. 22:15:49 I guess it would be faster... 22:16:09 {>} runs as {>}{>}{>}, {>>} runs as {>>}{>>}{>>}, so half the commands are moves, vs. 1/3rd./ 22:16:30 hehe faster and harder to catch 22:21:45 rungluebomber.fyb is even better than runbomber.fyb 22:22:00 the new 100points program 22:22:21 my new idea.. works! 22:22:33 Bah 22:23:13 http://www.harderweb.de/jix/langs/fyb/progs/rungluebomber.fyb 22:23:59 Isn't adding "glue" even slower than adding bombs...? 22:24:43 its run+glue+bomber 22:25:07 That's not what I meant, actually. 22:25:12 But I realized the folly of my argument 22:25:15 rungluebomber.fyb [x] allTricks-1.fyb [x] disableLoopsAndBomb-1.fyb [x] findAndDestroy-1.fyb [x] logicex-1.fyb [x] mangler-1.fyb [x] nodefect.fyb [x] nothing-1.fyb [x] runbomber.fyb [x] rungluebomber.fyb [x] selfReplicating-1.fyb [x] simplething.fyb total points: 100 22:26:55 i have no idea for a new bot 22:27:29 it's your turn .. i'm going to bad its 23:28 here.. school tomorrow :-| 22:33:41 Bye. 22:34:05 -!- jix has quit ("Banned from network").