< 1122768071 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: Did you use garbage for artistic effect in a.1l? < 1122768121 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using tab as garbage... :] < 1122768122 0 :calamari_!~calamari@dialup-4.240.69.78.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122768340 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: yes < 1122768358 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: the junk could all just be * or + or something, but it wouldn't look as nice in my opinion < 1122768684 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh.. Swing threads problem somewhere.. if the program completes it cant be edited < 1122768852 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1122769069 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll abort on this editable thing.. can't get it to work right < 1122769206 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define UP 31337 < 1122769207 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define DOWN 666 < 1122769207 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define LEFT 420 < 1122769207 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define RIGHT 69 < 1122769207 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1122769262 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1122770252 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raven: just checked 1.22.. it's not scrolling correctly either < 1122770423 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, the actual values don't matter, and those are all meaningful, so it seemed like a good idea < 1122770531 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari_: execution speed seems to be inversely proportional to the program size < 1122770889 0 :GregorR_!~chatzilla@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122770914 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1122770920 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1122771445 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a channel without # < 1122771479 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one other valid prefix. < 1122771484 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ or something ... < 1122771489 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's for channels that aren't shared across servers. < 1122771495 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that. < 1122771504 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is a channel without prefix < 1122771510 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1122771526 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very special channel ;) < 1122771533 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qua? < 1122771538 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qua?? < 1122771595 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :server-local channels starts with & < 1122771600 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION joins &esoteric < 1122771624 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the channel is called 0 < 1122771638 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems not to be enabled in freenode < 1122771648 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'll never see someone who is in channel 0 in any other channels < 1122771670 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1122771683 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because /join 0 == leave all channels < 1122771696 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's /not/ a channel. < 1122771699 0 :pgimeno!pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.pooles.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122771710 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: well it works like a channel < 1122771714 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1122771719 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/join #bla,0 wroks too < 1122771727 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One sec ... < 1122771744 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I just went in to 30 < 1122771747 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#0 < 1122771753 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without # < 1122771759 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I didn't type the #. < 1122771762 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ChatZilla did. < 1122771768 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1122771770 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1122771778 0 :kipple!~kipple@163.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1122771786 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some people run autojoin scripts < 1122771790 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a stupid thing) < 1122771792 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1122771801 0 :GregorR!~chatzilla@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122771814 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse to believe you ;P < 1122771827 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: can you invite people to 0? < 1122771835 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have some validation that checks for #... the trigger is for example !aj .... just type !aj #bla,0 in the channel ;) < 1122771842 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1122771845 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that would work, sure < 1122771945 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :........... < 1122771946 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in, like, 1999, when I and everyone I knew used mIRC, I used to write things like "hey everyone, double-click on the red for a good time ---> #temp,0,#channelwithanoffensivename" and make the channel list red text on a red background < 1122771949 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still refuse to believe you :P < 1122771954 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually worked until an update to the client made it not work < 1122771963 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were the days < 1122772009 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm does it work with xchat... < 1122772044 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: click here --> 4,4#esoteric,0,#esoteric < 1122772045 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1122772045 0 :jix!jix@p5489DAA3.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122772049 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1122772081 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1122772094 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1122772105 0 :jix!jix@p5489DAA3.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122772127 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who's up for writing the first 1L quine? < 1122772132 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x-chat aqua decided to crash < 1122772147 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :empty-file *g* < 1122772150 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's cheating < 1122772169 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not necessarily valid < 1122772191 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spec (well, the 2L spec; 1L_a doesn't change that part) says the program ends when it goes off the top or left of the program < 1122772202 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it goes off the bottom or right it invokes undefined behavior < 1122772212 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1122772239 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with my interpreter that might work though < 1122772332 0 :GregorR2!~GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122772339 0 :GregorR2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR2: #esoteric,0,#esoteric < 1122772342 0 :GregorR2!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1122772342 0 :GregorR2!~GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122772430 0 :GregorR2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still refuse to believe you :P < 1122772431 0 :GregorR2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1122772451 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i lied.... < 1122772455 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not true < 1122772462 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you join all channels if you join 0 < 1122772471 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWESOME < 1122772473 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1122772479 0 :GregorR!~chatzilla@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122772481 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1122772501 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well all channels except some..not so important channels < 1122772764 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.oceanbase.org/graue/junk/a.txt <-- here's what I used to plan out my 1L program < 1122773017 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my 1L interpreter freezes for a little while then crashes, if given an empty file < 1122773248 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc should have an -O4 meaning -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops, to save me some typing < 1122774038 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1122774049 0 :calamari_!~calamari@dialup-4.240.69.78.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122774053 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't resist :) < 1122774063 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got scrolling working < 1122774092 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey calamari_, how about a 1L debugger? < 1122774096 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :java's scrollbars are very weird, but I changed numbers until I got it right :) < 1122774125 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a 2d language? < 1122774186 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1122774193 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of a simple variant where it counted the number of nul's between * 's and used that %8, to get an instruction < 1122774215 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 1L? < 1122774223 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could translate bf to that very easily :) < 1122774231 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki article describes two languages < 1122774242 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I'm referring to 1L_a, which is implemented < 1122774245 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specified at http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:1L < 1122774253 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implemented at http://www.oceanbase.org/graue/junk/1l_a.c < 1122774260 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :example that prints "A" at http://www.oceanbase.org/graue/junk/a.1l < 1122774350 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari_: how would you do loops? < 1122774364 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck is that. < 1122774380 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks there needs to be -1l-a, the inverse :) < 1122774440 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: well, in the most generic version, you'd just code [ and ] as well < 1122774455 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari_: oh < 1122774472 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: but I came up with a few more interesting loop ideas hehe < 1122774574 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing that seemed doable was to investigate a 3x3 square of "pixels" and use that to determine the next move < 1122774596 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could turn, branch, etc based on that < 1122774604 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1122775130 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but each instruction would just be one character? < 1122775196 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raven: found the reason it's slow... I'm checking for '\n' and skipping it.. not sure why that's so slow, but invesitgating it < 1122775272 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: in that scheme the only instructions would be @ and nop, depending on number of spaces, < > depending on turn direction, loops based on 3x3 block < 1122775300 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i/o I was tinkering with.. had several schemes but didn't decide < 1122775327 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1122775416 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha.. getting the text in a textArea is very slow < 1122775431 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because it has to build that huge string) < 1122775636 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed < 1122775695 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm feeling like "OMG i'M A SUPER 31337 H4x0r" ^^ ;) < 1122775707 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? why? < 1122775730 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i found a way to execute any command on a server of someone i know < 1122775767 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he had a webpage with some cgi apps and i asked him if i may try to find security flaws... < 1122775770 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i found one < 1122776100 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1122776402 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1122776405 0 :calamari_!~calamari@dialup-4.240.69.78.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122776425 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :calamari < 1122778047 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.60 is up < 1122778049 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"bbl" < 1122780477 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780477 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780477 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780477 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780477 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780477 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780478 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780478 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780478 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780478 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780478 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780479 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780479 0 :yrz\werk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780480 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780480 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780480 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1122780523 0 :tokigun!tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780532 0 :graue!~graue@ip68-100-135-226.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780532 0 :cpressey!nobody@d154-20-76-195.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780532 0 :ZeroOne!~vsaalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780532 0 :puzzlet!~puzzlet@61.247.147.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780532 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780532 0 :lindi-!~lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780574 0 :fizzie!fis@st6-104.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780592 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780592 0 :GregorR!~chatzilla@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780592 0 :pgimeno!pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.pooles.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780592 0 :lament!~lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780592 0 :{^Raven^}!~{^Raven^}@82-38-204-252.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780592 0 :CXI!Sanity@dialup-158.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780592 0 :yrz\werk!~yaro@host99-30.pool8251.interbusiness.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780592 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1122780592 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1122784650 0 :calamari!~calamari@dialup-4.240.114.26.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122785965 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1122787803 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Donate a manual typewriter to ME for your only hope for a future!" < 1122794911 0 :yrz\werk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1122794946 0 :yrz\werk!~yaro@host99-30.pool8251.interbusiness.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1122796799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1122796800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1122802728 0 :Aardwolf!~neusring@dD576527E.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1122804286 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1122804324 0 :pgimeno!pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.pooles.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122804675 0 :neusring!~neusring@dD576B8BB.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1122804802 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1122807978 0 :jix!jix@p5489EA19.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122808004 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1122808105 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mornin < 1122808408 0 :kipple!~kipple@163.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1122813159 0 :neusring!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1122816691 0 :klutzy!klllut@dor22079.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1122826092 0 :Keymaker!~Not@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1122826093 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1122826101 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grrh.. space invaders < 1122826106 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't beat them < 1122826116 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i'll need to join them, then < 1122828103 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is everyone? < 1122828109 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work? < 1122828205 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working, yes < 1122828267 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm working on my website < 1122828284 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the menu controller and view < 1122828290 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-k < 1122828322 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the whole website folder is 1.9 MB < 1122828393 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my test designs are 1 MB.... subtract them < 1122828401 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mh < 1122828411 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh the development log is 500kb < 1122828422 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :images are 100kb < 1122828591 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rails is a very nice web framework.. it's so easy < 1122832643 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1122832644 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I've seen this déjà vu before.." < 1122837096 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason i love mac os x: http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/2729/bild35nk.png < 1122837176 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, I find that to be counterproductive at best. < 1122837334 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrhr < 1122837372 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is... < 1122837405 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey 71fps visualizer with a semi-transparent window on top of it < 1122837441 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cool" != useful < 1122837454 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't said it's useful < 1122837480 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but witha non-transparent background it's the most usefull text-editor i know < 1122837487 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh < 1122837559 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has cool macro,indention,syntax-coloring... features that are easy to configure (it's easy to make a new syntax colorer for another lang) < 1122837566 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it has folding < 1122838634 0 :Keymaker!~Not@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1122838637 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ello < 1122838647 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got an idea for a new page to esowiki; < 1122838652 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin Keymaker < 1122838655 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i could make a page about all the brainfuck contests < 1122838656 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1122838664 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and their winning results < 1122838668 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/2729/bild35nk.png (no i'm not working with that setup but it looks cool) < 1122838948 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still working on my website < 1122839057 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1122839078 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rggh.. guess what's annoying.. this : "... is left as a challenge to the reader." < 1122839149 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought of a language where everything "... is [trivial and] left as a challenge to the reader." < 1122839215 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1122840936 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW TO BUILD A NUCLEAR QUANTUM INFLUX GENERATOR: < 1122840952 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) The construction of a nuclear quantum influx generator is trivial and left as a challenge to the reader. < 1122841091 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, now i see how to do it < 1122842414 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo.. my rubber band broke into line form < 1122842421 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1122844467 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rgh. < 1122844478 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm tired < 1122844485 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't even midnight < 1122844500 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i thought i was going to stay till four am today < 1122844525 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x| < 1122844545 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stay awake < 1122844557 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls asleep < 1122844560 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I've seen this déjà vu before.." < 1122846119 0 :calamari!~calamari@dialup-4.240.111.247.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1122846125 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1122846751 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari < 1122846781 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello raven < 1122846800 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sat down to think about my game a little bit :) < 1122846833 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here, got my adventure game folders out looking for inspiration < 1122846833 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently at 431 bytes < 1122846857 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :figuring out what I'll need for item structure < 1122846858 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1232 bytes here + 2246 bytes data < 1122846893 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a few strings, a couple of numbers and some flags < 1122846918 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the verbs oing, need nouns :) < 1122846926 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :going < 1122846953 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a scripting language that compiles human readable room descriptions to the right data format < 1122846959 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably will do the inventory system next, so that's why I'm figuring out items < 1122846965 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1122846973 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will probably do something similar < 1122846988 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's most like a database < 1122846995 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats editing long hex strings by hand, just refer to rooms by name now < 1122847018 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe.. I have something special for that, but you've probably already done similar < 1122847100 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably ;) < 1122847133 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've thrown out the old game plan and am working on a more interesting game < 1122847145 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hash the verbs and nouns to 16 bit numbers... makes everything fixed width and easy to work with < 1122847175 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then inside the item I have pointers to the actual data such as name, description, etc < 1122847207 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, it's a bit simpler in basic, i just read everything into arrays < 1122847218 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. that would be :) < 1122847250 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't as hard to find a decent english hash as I thought it'd be < 1122847296 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the method I'm thinking about using for a future BFBASIC text adventure < 1122847305 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get a full word parser < 1122847313 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm doing full words < 1122847330 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also accepting just the first letter for verbs, since it seems to be a standard < 1122848651 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have regexps in ruby ;p < 1122848997 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No regexps in BBC BASIC so am using other methods ;)