< 1127866681 0 :Arrogant!i=Arrogant@200.orlando-11-13rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127867928 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127867978 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Hello! < 1127867987 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1127868001 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahoy. < 1127868012 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's the, uh, stuff going? < 1127868022 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever you happen to be doing? < 1127868044 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit slow... :) < 1127868061 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. Now just what are you doing? :-) < 1127868085 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming :) < 1127868108 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language? Point-black range? < 1127868116 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*blank < 1127868220 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C# (don't understand the point-blank thingy) < 1127868246 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm theorizing another language based on points " < 1127868253 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oops) < 1127868265 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Points "." and blanks " " inside ranges "[]" < 1127868446 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those the only symbols? < 1127868456 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds interesting... are ranges like b/f's loops? < 1127868502 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. Yes and yes :-) < 1127868532 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think points will be output and blanks will be nops. < 1127868579 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im still working on retooling glypho, and my fungeoid < 1127868585 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it would require some specialized EsoAPI :-) < 1127868616 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: what would "." be outputting? < 1127868616 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes. Glypho :-) < 1127868631 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's under the current cell. < 1127868646 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do change which cell I'm looking at? < 1127868651 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be zero normally, so obviously outputting zero must do something fun. < 1127868695 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Such as moving between cells or changing the current one. < 1127868727 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to clutter the spec with such details. leave it to the implementation < 1127868734 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1127868742 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah right :-) < 1127868755 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this character does _something_ and that other character does _something else_"...? < 1127868767 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes. "instruction characteristics left as an exercise to the reader" < 1127868774 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1127868799 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like Easy's I/O "base" instructions. < 1127868814 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the implementation is free to interpret the instruction in whatever way it feels like, provided Turing completeness is achieved" < 1127868843 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X: Makes the language Turing-complete. < 1127868852 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glypho's i/o does the same thing - in fact, most languages I've devised do. I don't see any point in restricting the output characteristics of a low-level interpreted language. < 1127868877 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Maybe I'll actually read the specs :-) < 1127868886 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1127868903 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what language are you talking about reading? < 1127868909 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glypho. < 1127868913 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glypho's spec is abysmally and humiliatingly incomplete < 1127868920 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh... < 1127868927 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen worse < 1127868928 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the "r" instruction is going to be turned into something else, more likely < 1127868932 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But surely it's more than the Esolang article! < 1127868965 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I'll "afk" until I can figure out how to do the "away" status this on this IRC client. < 1127868967 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is ihope, I didnt want to place the ENTIRE spec in the wiki article. There's too much fluff < 1127868970 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spec isn't bad. it's contains all you need to implement it < 1127868973 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, what client? < 1127868998 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple" especially since anything NOT mentioned in the spec is free for otheres to do as they please. < 1127869014 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe. good point < 1127869029 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/"/:/ < 1127869048 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't type well tonight.. keyboard's in a funky position today. < 1127869118 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about using the r instruction for self-modification? < 1127869137 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be fun too < 1127869142 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. Chatzilla. < 1127869154 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, use /away < 1127869166 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to return, use /back < 1127869167 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense... < 1127869168 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simple as pie < 1127869178 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except Ive tried making pie before. Fairly complex.. :-( < 1127869200 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing that picture of fish statues spitting water out of their mouths made me suddenly thirsty... < 1127869217 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could understand < 1127869368 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... how do PC's communicate with their own northbridges? < 1127869393 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the Northbridge Messaging Complex < 1127869423 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Really? < 1127869425 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe.. Im just kidding, I really have no clue < 1127869432 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1127869452 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounded good. Especially if I added cool acronyms like NMC and the NMCC - northbridge messaging complex code < 1127869466 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh... < 1127869482 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. Just where does a power supply supply the power, then? < 1127869523 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT through the NMC, because its strictly for communication purposes < 1127869583 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the southbridge is actually where the CPU is attached, and the northbridge is just put in to throw us off? < 1127869634 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. you're saying that computer design teams ADD complexity as a means of preventing reverse engineering? < 1127869639 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INGENIOUS! < 1127869655 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's why the firmware is written in Malbolge! < 1127869662 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I could do the same thing with funge code... < 1127869710 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. I see a way to exploit the GPL... you could compile all your code to brainfuck before releasing the source... ;) < 1127869739 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says the source code must be "preferable" for modification. < 1127869765 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1127869771 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, one can "prefer" it to machine code... < 1127869831 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if didn't want other people to use the code, I'd definately prefer brainfuck to C < 1127869843 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1127869941 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... if you don't want other to use it, why GPL it at all? < 1127869945 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. I think you'd have to have a REALLY sophisticated BF streamliner < 1127869954 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah right. Bundling. < 1127869986 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then have a C-unstreamliner < 1127869992 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the obfuscator ;-) < 1127870013 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to be able to just compile C into Brainfuck... < 1127870029 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah, I guess that would be pretty impressive < 1127870040 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. Yes indeed... < 1127870081 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd still have to do some streamlining - getting all the C variables close to one another to minimize BF "random access" < 1127870081 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the parental units (I mean mother and father, of course) want Brainfuck to be called something else ;-) < 1127870104 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. That's a nice problem with it. < 1127870115 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, Brainfuck *is* a problem, no? < 1127870126 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, ihope, yes it is < 1127870245 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks the doom movie is going to be ridiculously pathetic. 12-year-olds will eat it up, and maybe some fratboys, but even fans of the video game series will think that the movie is a pathetic hollywood cash-in
< 1127870253 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is NOT a bitter old man
< 1127870309 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is suspicious
< 1127870317 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but in a good way < 1127870350 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, to offset that clause, let me say that no matter what, the doom movie cannot be any worse than Episode I < 1127870378 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not sure about that
< 1127870419 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. Both are worrying < 1127870427 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will not be worse than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick... maybe. < 1127870451 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the stick, I say < 1127870479 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pencil? Bring it on. Hot poker covered in red-hot thorns? flip a coin! < 1127870481 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether it's a stick of butter or a memory stick... < 1127870519 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I argue that sticks of butter AND memory sticks are not sharp. < 1127870540 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An old CPU then. < 1127870558 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, alright < 1127870585 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The upcoming Doom movie will be roughly as bad as poking yourself in the eye with an old CPU < 1127870619 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't watch it then ;-) < 1127870648 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, of course not, your eye is going to take a while to repair from that incident involving the old CPU < 1127870664 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rent it on DVD or something < 1127870781 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, back ontop something of a topic: I've been thinking of developing a TRANSCRIPT decendent < 1127870790 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh! < 1127870881 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks that is a good idea
< 1127870895 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im trying to figure out how to add functions by moving to different rooms < 1127870902 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "GO EAST"... < 1127870904 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:-) < 1127871028 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that moving to different rooms.. its a temporal action, it wouldn't be as easy to fit it into the "transcript of an IF game" scenario < 1127871111 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Ive got some ways to implement it, but I'll have to think on it < 1127871127 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like the "X" command in Transcript to be changed to "TALK TO". < 1127871152 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm wait... never mind. < 1127871156 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1127871163 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alrighty\ < 1127871627 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]" < 1127872817 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1127878253 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1127878269 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a bf implementation for palm pilots? < 1127878634 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127880044 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. < 1127880059 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made one for my cell phone, but it didn't work :( < 1127880084 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worked in the emulator, so it was difficult to debug < 1127880204 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's rough, alright < 1127880222 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be sweet to have portable executable bf code < 1127881266 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1127881683 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]" < 1127883988 0 :Arrogant!i=Arrogant@68.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127886628 0 :twobitsp1ite!n=isaac@user-0c8h2a8.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127886632 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127887661 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1127889124 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1127889140 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1127889166 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola. < 1127889222 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Que tal? :> < 1127889233 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bueno, y tú? < 1127889249 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hmm, is there supposed to be a ´ there ...?) < 1127889267 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see only some werid signs :> < 1127889275 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1127889286 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1127889307 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's the latest esoteric news in your corner of the universe? < 1127889337 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, nothing special... < 1127889351 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im thinkin about my new language called o-o < 1127889359 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I saw the web page on that. < 1127889402 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1127889445 0 :calamari!n=calamari@dialup-4.240.150.66.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127889451 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1127889483 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari < 1127889504 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nooga < 1127889508 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you doing? < 1127889601 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, thank you < 1127890608 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1127890818 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1127890883 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127892704 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1127893047 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127894399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1127894400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1127895775 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1127895796 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127900236 0 :Aardwolf!n=neusring@kotnet-145.kulnet.kuleuven.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1127900800 0 :jix!i=jix@F328a.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1127902366 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1127908165 0 :kipple!n=kipple@163.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127911878 0 :Keymaker!n=Not@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1127911885 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1127912011 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where has fizzie gone? < 1127912019 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he used to be here all the time.. < 1127912031 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least on summer.. < 1127912600 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20050815T114349 <-- fizzie has quit ("Siirretaanpa sahkojohtoa, maalaavat muuten yli sen.") < 1127912821 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1127912836 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let us move the electric cabel, otherwise they will paint over it" < 1127912840 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :roughly translated :) < 1127912888 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is still coding c
< 1127912900 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1127912934 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there a three ways in c to write "{" (without ...) : "{" "<%" "??<" < 1127912940 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool for obfuscating code < 1127912945 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can mix them too < 1127912954 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<% ??> is equivalent to { } < 1127912978 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ??* codes can be used in quotes too because they are converted before the code gets parsed < 1127913018 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they where introduced for non ascii machines (afaik) < 1127913068 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool :) < 1127913120 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still writing my ultra cool compression algorithm < 1127913138 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a good compression algorithm: < 1127913148 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you compressing? text? images? bf-code? < 1127913154 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo rm -rf / < 1127913156 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: anything < 1127913163 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want < 1127913168 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ultra cool < 1127913169 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take all the 0's and 1's of the file, and then store them in a new order: first all the 0's, then all the 1's. Then zip this. Ultra good compression. < 1127913193 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aardwolf: uhrm.. and a decompression too (lossless) < 1127913197 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't unsort < 1127913223 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but bzip2 uses a approach that is a bit like "sorting the file" < 1127913227 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: sounds cool! < 1127913258 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k it was sort of a joke, didn't invent it myself tho < 1127913276 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aardwolf: yeah i know.. but the funny thing is bzip2 sorts the file < 1127913322 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the bytes by its own value but by the value of all bytes infront of it (with looping back to the byte) < 1127913331 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1127913345 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a transformation called BWT (Burrow-Wheeler transformation) < 1127913347 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is it better than zlib? < 1127913354 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most cases it is < 1127913372 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats why source.tar.bz2 is smaller than source.tgz < 1127913480 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's like the maximul accelaration a human body can survive? < 1127913484 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*maximum < 1127913506 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's slower than the speed of light < 1127913522 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :accelaration != speed :) < 1127913522 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh accelaration not speed < 1127913536 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just saw that... < 1127913575 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its less than speed_of_light/s ;) < 1127913585 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anybody know if a human can survive light speed... (if that is possible at all) < 1127913594 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: impossible < 1127913611 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a space game and need a realistic value for the accelaration of the spaceships < 1127913625 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aardwolf: space game AND realistic ?! < 1127913627 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: according to current theoretical physics, yes (but such things has changed in the past) < 1127913655 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: i'm not that into physics < 1127913665 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, Frontier uses 25g witout problems even if I think that's unrealistic < 1127913668 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as realistic as possible without being too boring ;) < 1127913683 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway there are "workarounds" < 1127913692 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but um currently I try it with 1000g and going to the moon is still taking way too long :( < 1127913710 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, that'd hurt < 1127913733 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speeding up time instead might be better (unless it's multiplayer) < 1127913751 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aardwolf: do a kickstart and start with blabla km/h and than use 1000g < 1127913776 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aardwolf: sounds interesting.. what kind of game? < 1127913780 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when pushed by a flat, rigid surface the bones would break at much less acceleration < 1127913837 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah kipple, time speedup is the approach used by Frontier and the rest of the "family" < 1127913846 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keymaker: currently I plan it to be somewhat like Frontier: Elite, but you'll also be able to walk around in your spaceship and walk around on planets < 1127913846 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia: "modern pilots can typically handle 9 g (90 m/s²)" < 1127913856 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1127913857 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d? < 1127913863 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes 3D with opengl < 1127913865 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1127913872 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a basic Frontier-like 3D engine on my webpage with time acceleration < 1127913875 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, never seen or played frontier: elite) < 1127913875 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing fancy though, no high-poly things or shiney effects < 1127913887 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to be able to do 3d stuff < 1127913889 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aardwolf: :( < 1127913900 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want cool pixel shader effects! < 1127913906 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1127913908 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and smoothed surfaces < 1127913921 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in frontier: elite you basically have to fly from star system to star system to trade goods and get more money for better ships and weapons to fight pirates < 1127913929 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what are you coding it in? Deltaplex? < 1127913933 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1127913943 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just thinking deltaplex.. < 1127913943 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol no, but I'm using the same engine as the one for deltaplex :) < 1127913984 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I rarely finish a project so I hope I'll finish this one :) < 1127914009 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1127914031 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my start finish ratio is 100/1 < 1127914036 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1127914038 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1127914056 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw currently there's only an earth and a moon and both look green < 1127914064 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the record, there's a SF novel which suggest placing a mini black hole in the front of the ship to counter the effect of acceleration over the pilot < 1127914078 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :) < 1127914098 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how to move the black hole? < 1127914107 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it's SF :) < 1127914109 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(talking about physics, i should be reading them at the moment.. stupid exam..) < 1127914110 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it's so heavy that it would require massive amounts of energy to move :) < 1127914110 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aardwolf: pull it or push it < 1127914141 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :place another black hole in front of it and let it pull the first one < 1127914162 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, they are so easy to move around :) < 1127914214 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1127914239 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it is theoretically possible to make a lightweight gravity generator < 1127914491 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm what's the acceleration of a plane when it takes off? < 1127914592 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably 0 < 1127914633 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate physics, i rather like philosophy that says that acceleration doesn't exist < 1127915212 0 :Wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1127915558 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'i < 1127915568 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin Wildhalcyon < 1127915578 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin jix < 1127915582 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's things? < 1127915596 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1127915649 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why so down sir? < 1127915660 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't afford the new pda you've been dreaming of? < 1127915668 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my compression code is still unfinished and i'm still feeling ill < 1127915676 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i could buy 2 of the pdas < 1127915683 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well.. I have a simple solution jix < 1127915695 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrhr < 1127915713 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't want to spend the money on them because i want to buy a new computer < 1127915715 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call in sick to work and spend the time working on your compression algorithm < 1127915739 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't work < 1127915741 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a tablet PC jix? Its a half-way point < 1127915746 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well then whats the problem? < 1127915757 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to go to school < 1127915771 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh, school < 1127915808 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid gmail keeps telling me the document contains no data, when it *clearly* does. Sometimes the internet bites < 1127915866 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1127915886 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Im going to develop my transcript derivative to be interactive, like Forth < 1127915926 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it interative like irb < 1127915926 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>THERE IS A CUP < 1127915927 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You spy a cup that you have never seen before. < 1127915932 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(interactive ruby interpreter) < 1127915971 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>JOHN IS HERE < 1127915973 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You notice John walk into the room. < 1127916005 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? It could be lots of fun - you think.. HEY, Im in an Interactive Fiction game!.. then it turns out that you're not, you're really programming < 1127916031 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TELL JOHN TO USE THE CUP (function call) < 1127916042 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :john has no idea how to use the cup (undefined function) < 1127916067 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to quit, you'll have to say "THERE IS A DARK LORD OF EVIL" followed by "DEFEAT THE DARK LORD OF EVIL" < 1127916077 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the cup to drink (add to the cup function a call to the function drink) < 1127916089 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the cup to print "hello, world!" ... < 1127916102 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm, this could have possibilities < 1127916108 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would I code the "drink" function though? < 1127916122 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to drink you have to.... < 1127916127 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd really have to have outside function definitions, not like Forth's define feature < 1127916146 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :casting function pointers in c is fun! < 1127916165 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like function pointers, except C bastardizes them into something horrific. < 1127916172 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rv.read_data = (size_t(*)(void*, size_t, size_t, void*))fread; < 1127916184 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAHHH!! LOOK AWAY! LOOK AWAY! < 1127916188 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks away
< 1127916209 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a stupid syntax < 1127916230 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid? STUPID? It SCREAMS idiocy < 1127916267 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha this car got hacked: http://dimka.ee/foo/audiA8.html < 1127916274 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should have used the @ sign for it < 1127916293 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cool < 1127916324 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes OOP goes horribly wrong. I may have to invent my own OOP language < 1127916335 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is not oop < 1127916338 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: a nice example of brute force hacking! < 1127916342 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be simple, without all the fluff. < 1127916353 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Jix, but C++ claims to be (still questionable) < 1127916353 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby is simple < 1127916366 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ object-ori... wtf? < 1127916382 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how to obfuscate BF code
< 1127916392 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: hahaha < 1127916446 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks if he should give away information about his secret brainfuck project, or just some annoying pieces of information to and keep it secret
< 1127916471 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker, Im still in doubt about its existence < 1127916480 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1127916489 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it can't be cooler than interactive TRANSCRIPT < 1127916495 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it isn't < 1127916504 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its close to existing, so thats a plus < 1127916505 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but by the way, this new project is what i just started few mins ago < 1127916515 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the one i mentioned long ago < 1127916523 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keymaker: I start a new project ~ every 30 minutes < 1127916526 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell us about it < 1127916528 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1127916543 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon: hah i start a new one every 29.57464 minutes < 1127916547 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the one wh doesn't believe exists is under work as well) < 1127916586 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the problem is.. I don't DROP any of them. I'm still working on my colorized OO funge varient, my glypho interpreter, interactive transcript, slightly-3D SNUSP, etc... < 1127916605 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i start and drop.. but i have couple of under work < 1127916622 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: same here < 1127916629 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im starting to wonder if I'll ever develop my funge-language roguelike < 1127916693 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how much the pickaxes in the audi cost per piece. Thats some sweet vengance - someone must have forked over the dough
< 1127916746 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was cool hack :) < 1127916763 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL i just read pickaxe and thought you're talking about ruby < 1127916789 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the book "Programming Ruby" from pragprog has the nickname pickaxe because it has a pickaxe on the cover < 1127916879 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright you crazy programmers, I need to go get ready for my midterm (another one, yay!) < 1127916889 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :midterm? < 1127916905 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a terminal emulator? < 1127916906 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. Its a test, in the middle of the term. < 1127916908 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like xterm < 1127916923 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up term
< 1127916923 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, xterm is cool, midterms suck < 1127916929 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :term == semester < 1127916934 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1127916938 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1127916949 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the authentication process to login to a midterm is a b*tch < 1127916980 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kidding Raven. I need my student ID card, a pencil with a decent eraser, and for this class a non-programmable calculator < 1127917022 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in school math test we are allowed to use graphical+programmable calculators < 1127917052 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at the "Mathe Olympiade"(math olympics) we may only use simple calculators < 1127917125 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, its similar here < 1127917140 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because our math teacher doesn't know that we know how to use the programmable calculators "efficient" < 1127917151 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, I'll be back later on, with some fresh ideas on how to obfuscate already troublesome concepts < 1127917160 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathe olympiade is cool < 1127917222 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought up two new esolangs last night
< 1127917255 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{^Raven^}: cool < 1127917275 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1127917296 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dream or didn't you get to sleep? < 1127917445 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in better english: "did you invent them in a dream or didn't you get any sleep and invented them on that time?" < 1127917470 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep deprivation probably. last night == 6am < 1127917507 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1127917522 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never implemented an esolang before so this will be fun < 1127917529 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1127917579 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :than don't tell me enough about it that i'm able to implement it < 1127917592 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1127917594 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm known for implementing things just because someone talked about it;) < 1127917614 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i'm not sure i know enough about them yet < 1127917716 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha, unfortunately for jix he implemented glypho before it was ready < 1127917727 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1127918125 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh.. i really need to go reading now.. bbl < 1127918127 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This quote is unrelated to this context." < 1127918340 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, one of these languages is possibly going to be *very* difficult to write programs for < 1127918351 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION forgets if that is a good thing or not
< 1127918380 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1127918384 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1127918568 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1127918724 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my c macros are growing too fast < 1127918750 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning (or whatever time it is for you) Nooga < 1127918760 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 pm :) < 1127918762 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 line macros... < 1127918774 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning Wildhalcyon :> < 1127918779 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin nooga < 1127918791 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi jix < 1127918801 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jix, what are they supposed to do? < 1127918820 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aardwolf: first program... cat is '-12318683s6x5e' < 1127918826 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do special buffered fast byte and bit IO < 1127918924 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jix, are they in asm? < 1127918932 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no in c < 1127918941 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't use inline functions there < 1127919171 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my lib is written in portable 32bit c99 and should run on every >= 32bit machine and is able to handle any filesize < 1127919233 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice jix < 1127919349 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the api is simple and flexible < 1127919370 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use it for file => file mem => file mem => mem .... < 1127919485 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: comp.lang.c comes to mind (if you dare) < 1127919514 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ < 1127919558 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{^Raven^}: hm? < 1127919679 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: usenet group where you can ask questions about the standard C language < 1127919690 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no questions < 1127919698 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1127919798 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i ask an operator to free the channel #comression ( Contact: TheStar, last seen: 2 years 5 weeks 2 days (6h 11m 32s) ago) only chenserv and me in there < 1127919944 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm, compression is fun < 1127920001 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, glypho is what I consider anti-compression. It takes more information to encode glypho than it actually contains (at least, in the 4 symbol case.. I think its worse as the string length increases) < 1127920046 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.. with string length 1 it needs 1 byte for.. uhm 1 symbol < 1127920052 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :best cas is length 2 < 1127920061 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 bytes for 2 symbols < 1127920119 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1127920121 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im comparing the number of possible glypho symbols v. the number of possible normal symbols. < 1127920159 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a 4-symbol 4-length alphabet, glypho can encode 15 unique symbols, while "conventional" encoding can encode 4^4 = 256 < 1127920252 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a 2-symbol 2-length alphabet, you're looking at 2 glypho v. 2^2 = 4 conventional < 1127920314 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets worse if you consider the "loss < 1127920338 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"loss" associated with the english alphabet - 15 v. 26^4 < 1127920443 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah well, its still cool ;-) And it might be uber-compressible with the short alphabet. < 1127921396 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's über not uber < 1127921988 0 :Wildhalcyon_!n=chatzill@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1127921988 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127921990 0 :Wildhalcyon_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Wildhalcyon < 1127922002 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb Wildhalcyon < 1127923609 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127923729 0 :Wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1127923776 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, my internet is freaky again < 1127923904 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1127923925 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think taht SQL should be classified as esolang too < 1127923955 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c too < 1127924010 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is quite clear, SQL is not < 1127924028 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite clear? < 1127924028 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rv.read_data = (size_t(*)(void*, size_t, size_t, void*))fread; < 1127924059 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1127924068 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sort of cast? < 1127924073 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1127924075 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a function pointer < 1127924085 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we've been ranting about all day < 1127924097 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1127924103 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's casting of function pointers... and that's ugly < 1127924125 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of languages have ugly constructs though. Perl is the worst imo < 1127924137 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i'll maybe go back to my PHP app... < 1127924198 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot of languages fore one to use them < 1127924201 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :force < 1127924212 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, i love perl for those werid constructs < 1127924245 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: your host is a perl script ;) < 1127924251 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...rev.inter-c.pl < 1127924263 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1127924275 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like almost every host here, in Poland :> < 1127924284 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1127924288 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've got .pl domain :> < 1127924292 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1127924298 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perlish country huh? :> < 1127924304 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a perl script $_
< 1127924321 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon is away < 1127924338 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. I suppose I am, at that < 1127924349 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im about to leave anyways, soon as I can find my shoes.. < 1127924353 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois says so.... < 1127924432 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois is right, I gotta go < 1127924436 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll talk with you later Jix < 1127924441 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon: From perl i like that: my $foo = shift || 10; < 1127924459 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and many more things :> < 1127924478 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby: foo = (ARGV.shift || 10).to_i < 1127924490 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha :> < 1127924492 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :longer < 1127924497 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you talk about argv < 1127924500 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1127924504 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you talk about functino arguments < 1127924516 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :def bla (foo = 10) ... < 1127924524 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorter < 1127924587 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in php < 1127924625 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you could write def bla foo = 10 (without ( and ) ) < 1127924724 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my compressor is faster if a file has more 1 bits than 0 bits ^^ < 1127924773 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats one addition, one subtraction and one multiplication less per bit < 1127924852 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never care about execution time :> < 1127924864 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never? < 1127924872 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never < 1127924878 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't care if your computer needs 20h to start up? < 1127924893 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my programs always run fast < 1127924895 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you need 20h to compress a 1mb file < 1127924924 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they run fast even if you don't care about it? < 1127924943 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most cases < 1127924954 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not if you write a complex compressor < 1127924971 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1127927927 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1127928810 0 :Keymaker!n=Not@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1127928829 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsck.. i slept all the time and didn't read at all.. < 1127928840 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, let's hope the brain works best in panic :) < 1127928944 0 :twobitsprite!n=isaac@user-0c8h2a8.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127928944 0 :twobitsp1ite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127931001 0 :twobitsp1ite!n=isaac@user-0c8h2a8.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127931001 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127931651 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1127932299 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1127932836 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone seen the new dr. Who show? < 1127933535 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1127933561 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :starts here in Norway today. just wondering if it's any good < 1127933587 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of :) < 1127933608 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess the only way is to "see it for yourself" < 1127933625 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some vague memories from my childhood of the old series. I really liked it then, not that that need matter at all < 1127934131 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl. < 1127934132 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This quote is unrelated to this context." < 1127934416 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: the new series is *really* good < 1127934535 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good thing I have a business trip to Norway every week :-P < 1127935472 0 :Wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1127935481 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127935685 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmeme, we meet again! < 1127935689 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :En gard! < 1127935699 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swordfights with cmeme.
< 1127935704 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION parries!
< 1127935707 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thrusts!
< 1127935710 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION misses!
< 1127935713 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is stabbed!!
< 1127935723 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, you appear to have stabbed yourself again < 1127935734 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These things ... < 1127935739 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fades away ...
< 1127935741 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These things ... < 1127935747 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happen *auggggggggh* < 1127935764 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you just faded away!.. Did you just come back from the grave to re-utter your last lines and pass away once again? < 1127935782 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have said "is fading away' < 1127935786 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pseudo-mortal. < 1127935814 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now ... to school :-P < 1127935864 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1127935884 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to have an exciting talk about a Forth-TRANSCRIPT varient Im working on < 1127936834 0 :twobitsprite!n=isaac@user-0c8h2a8.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127936835 0 :twobitsp1ite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127937540 0 :Aardwolf!n=neusring@kotnet-145.kulnet.kuleuven.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1127937723 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raven: just watched it. Can't say I was impressed :( < 1127937859 0 :Keymaker!n=Not@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1127937864 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rgrh < 1127938532 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1127939549 0 :twobitsp1ite!n=isaac@user-0c8h2a8.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127939549 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127939884 0 :twobitsprite!n=isaac@user-0c8h2a8.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127940160 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1127940192 0 :twobitsp1ite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127943083 0 :twobitsp1ite!n=isaac@user-0c8h2a8.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127943083 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127943416 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1127943949 0 :Wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1127943954 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ello < 1127943957 0 :twobitsp1ite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127943961 0 :twobitsprite!n=isaac@user-0c8h2a8.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127943967 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! < 1127943971 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1127943979 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you Mr Keymaker? < 1127943984 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm fine, thank you < 1127943991 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you? < 1127944011 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, I might have a new job... < 1127944016 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1127944041 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm working with my newest project at the moment.. < 1127944058 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfunk? < 1127944074 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1127944077 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but brainfuck related < 1127944086 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well there we go < 1127944091 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1127944100 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this project will take a lot time < 1127944105 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it won't be worth it :) < 1127944110 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1127944131 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how that feels.. < 1127944135 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily the next term in school is the next i have ever had, only 15 hours school a week < 1127944143 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, i have plenty of timeeeee < 1127944151 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1127944162 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) yeah, i've waited this for a long time.. < 1127944256 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im working on turing interactive TRANSCRIPT syntax such as "if all lights are red then the cup contains water" into meaningful programming syntax. Not to mention "There are lots of lights" < 1127944305 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1127944328 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably quite difficult job, i assume.. < 1127944352 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, thinking it all up and writing it down is EASY. It's when I actually move towards writing an implementation that will be the challenge < 1127944392 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1127944400 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's jix ;) < 1127944480 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolang Design Goal: develop an esolang that will be difficult for Jix to implement. < 1127944495 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1127944524 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I can think of is using a foreign language. He's amazingly good at what he does < 1127944539 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i've noticed that too < 1127944539 0 :twobitsp1ite!n=isaac@user-0c8h2a8.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127944644 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im working on the mechanics for the word "lots" right now. It roughly means "uncountable" - so if you say "There are lots of lights" there are more than enough for any task you could possibly use them for. Think of "lots" as aleph-null < 1127944766 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127946710 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127946808 0 :kipple!n=kipple@163.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127946827 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon: The one I'm working on should be difficult for jix to implement < 1127946878 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat (beta) is 63s73x5 or 806s30x5 or ... < 1127946924 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont understand that... < 1127946934 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The letters with the numbers with the confusion < 1127946946 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is probably code < 1127946955 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..but no idea what it does < 1127946958 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah, but I dont understand it < 1127946972 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cat program < 1127946979 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo all input to output < 1127946987 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1127947071 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo chars 0 to 255 to output is 8357s19x6 < 1127947454 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just wait the specs.. :) < 1127947663 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. good night < 1127947669 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This quote is unrelated to this context." < 1127947878 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127949161 0 :GregorR-L!n=chatzill@host-201-128.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric