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00:08:32 <ihope> I'm making an esogame.
00:11:00 <ihope> It's called Felidae, off the famous cat program. The first "real" program you encounter in the game is a minimalistic programming interface, which is essentially a cat program.
00:15:15 <ihope> Okay, here's the program: [[-],[>],]+[,<+][-]
00:21:03 <ihope> Hmm, no, that wouldn't work...
00:29:21 <ihope> Aha. The program is [,+,]
00:29:31 <ihope> Erm, that's [,>,]
00:34:27 <ihope> ...You know, it's oddish that there are as many people here as there are, yet not many are talking.
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00:58:08 <Gs30ng> True
00:58:23 <Gs30ng> but not oddish in my opinion
00:59:12 <Gs30ng> every server/channel that i am in is so quiet although there are many people
00:59:26 <Gs30ng> Erm.. well maybe i misread him/her
00:59:55 <Gs30ng> i don't really get what does (s)he mean with 'there' and 'here'
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02:55:11 <WildHalcyon> Ahoy!
02:55:30 <GregorR> Ahoy thar land-lubber!
02:55:32 * WildHalcyon thinks that the channel should have a nautical theme for the day
03:24:21 <Gs30ng> is today some nautical-related day in US or somewhere?
03:26:32 <WildHalcyon> not that I know of. Just felt like saying Ahoy
03:30:05 <Gs30ng> here's a dirty python code that helps you make text-printing udage code: http://gs30ng.exca.net/tempcode/genudage.py
03:34:23 <Gs30ng> and you can test the code with IRC bot Chips, which can handle BV Toggling & Printing.
03:34:27 <Gs30ng> ~udage +~~~~+-+--++~~~~~++----+~~~~~++-++-+~~~~~+++----~~~~~++-++--~~~~~++--+-+~~~~~+-----~~~~~+----++~~~~~++-++++~~~~~++--+--~~~~~++--+-+~
03:34:28 <chips> result: 'Sample Code'
03:34:28 <chips> order: 0 1 13 25 37 49 61 73 84 96 108 120
03:34:50 <Gs30ng> ~udage +~~~~+--+---~~~~~++--+-+~~~~~++-++--~~~~~++-++--~~~~~++-++++~~~~~+-++--~~~~~+-----~~~~~+-+-+++~~~~~++-++++~~~~~+++--+-~~~~~++-++--~~~~~++--+--~~~~~+----+~
03:34:51 <chips> result: 'Hello, World!'
03:34:51 <chips> order: 0 1 13 25 37 49 61 72 83 95 107 119 131 143
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06:36:40 <nooga> hi
06:52:58 <GregorR> 'lo
06:53:02 <GregorR> Wow ...
06:53:07 <GregorR> That was much longer than I thought XD
06:53:35 <nooga> ? :)
06:57:10 <nooga> haaa tokigun, please finish your SADOL interpreter :D!
06:57:32 <GregorR> It took me 15 min to respond to your "hi" :P
06:58:53 <nooga> oh, right
06:59:05 <nooga> damnit, got to go :/
06:59:15 <nooga> (school)
07:01:06 <nooga> bye then
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07:32:33 <lament> chips: hello.
07:33:18 <lament> ~udage +
07:33:18 <chips> result: ''
07:33:18 <chips> order: 0
07:33:25 <lament> ~udage +++
07:33:26 <chips> result: ''
07:33:26 <chips> order: 0
07:33:30 <lament> ~udage abbccc
07:33:30 <chips> result: ''
07:33:30 <chips> order: 0 1 5
07:33:44 <lament> ~udage once upon a tiiiiime
07:33:45 <chips> result: '
07:33:45 <chips> order: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 18 19
07:36:34 <GregorR> NICE
07:36:35 <lament> ~udage bcaaabc
07:36:36 <chips> result: ''
07:36:36 <chips> order: 0 1 2 3
07:37:17 <Gs30ng> afaik, it only works on BV toggling and Printing... you can't change PV with that bot
07:37:20 <GregorR> ~udage BIJAAABCDEFGHIJA
07:37:20 <chips> result: ''
07:37:20 <chips> order: 0 1 2 3
07:37:51 <GregorR> Oh wait, I think I'm confused, four is output, isn't it ...
07:37:54 <GregorR> ~udage BIJAAAABCDEFGHIJA
07:38:09 <GregorR> Or, four = confuse chips :P
07:38:09 <lament> ~udage baaaabbbbbbbba
07:38:47 <Gs30ng> seeems chips is down because of some bugs :(
07:38:56 <lament> awhoops.
07:39:12 <GregorR> I would say "sorry", but instead I'll say "MUAHAHAH! I HAVE DEFEATED CHIPS!!!"
07:39:21 <Gs30ng> i should ask noricube to fix chips
07:39:23 <Gs30ng> lol
07:40:37 <lament> anybody know of any esolangs available for the Palm?
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07:51:34 <Gs30ng> here's an alternative bot, with my own codes, i'm not sure it will work well or not...
07:51:50 <Gs30ng> GggggGrrrGGGgggggGGGrrGrgggggGGrrGrGgggggGGrrGGGgggggGGrGGGGgggggGGGrrGrgggggGrGrrGrg udage!
07:51:51 <GS01NG> Result: GregorR
07:52:00 <Gs30ng> ok
07:52:52 <GregorR> BIJAAAABCDEFGHIJA udage!
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07:52:57 <GregorR> BLAM!
07:53:02 <Gs30ng> whoa
07:53:17 * GregorR is .... THE UDAGE KILLERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!
07:53:25 <Gs30ng> GregorR the qualified bot slayer
07:54:12 <Gs30ng> i should look up what's wrong with interpreter module
07:55:34 <Gs30ng> ah, that's a problem of unicode charset... hmm, annoying...
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07:58:40 <Gs30ng> again
07:58:46 <Gs30ng> this time the code should work
07:59:26 <Gs30ng> esssseoooeoessssseeeooeessssseeoeeeessssseeeoeoossssseeooeoessssseeeooeossssseeoeooessssseeoooeessssseooooes udage!
07:59:26 <GS01NG> Result: Esoteric!
07:59:38 <Gs30ng> no problem with printing ascii characters...
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08:00:19 <Gs30ng> ugggguuddduduuuuduuddggggguduudduduuududuuggggguuddduuuduuududdg udage!
08:00:20 <GS01NG> Result: 여닫ì´
08:00:32 <Gs30ng> and also work on printing korean
08:01:15 <Gs30ng> now show us that magical bot-slaying code, GregorR
08:02:49 <GregorR> BIJAAAABCDEFGHIJA udage!
08:02:49 <GS01NG> Result: ă
08:02:53 <GregorR> w00t
08:03:01 <Gs30ng> :)
08:03:10 <GregorR> CIJAAAABCDEFGHIJA udage!
08:03:11 <GS01NG> Result: ƀ
08:03:16 <Gs30ng> is that character right you intended?
08:03:28 <GregorR> I don't quite remember where ASCII lies in binary :P
08:04:07 <GregorR> CEFGHIAAAABCDEFGHIA udage!
08:04:08 <GS01NG> Result: Ÿ
08:04:17 <GregorR> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...
08:04:51 <GregorR> Oh wait, do I need both unicode chars ...
08:04:59 <GregorR> CEFGHIAAAABBBBBBBBBCDEFGHIA udage!
08:05:00 <GS01NG> Result: ï¿€
08:05:04 <GregorR> Apparently not XD
08:05:17 <Gs30ng> what's XD?
08:05:25 <GregorR> A smiley
08:05:31 <Gs30ng> aha
08:16:15 <lament> ~udage bcaaabc
08:16:15 <chips> result: ''
08:16:15 <chips> order: 0 1 2 3
08:16:20 <lament> ~udage aaabc
08:16:21 <chips> result: ''
08:16:21 <chips> order: 0 4
08:16:38 <lament> ~udage caaabc
08:16:39 <chips> result: ''
08:16:39 <chips> order: 0 1 5
08:16:42 <lament> ~udage baaabc
08:16:42 <chips> result: ''
08:16:43 <chips> order: 0 1
08:16:58 <lament> ~udage cbaaabc
08:17:01 <chips> command timed out!
08:24:06 <Gs30ng> quit!
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08:35:11 <Gs30ng> i added a small debup tip on it
08:35:15 <Gs30ng> AABC udage!
08:35:15 <GS01NG> Result:
08:35:15 <GS01NG> Udages and Cells that are 1: []
08:35:15 <GS01NG> Nonzero Pointer Values: {'B': 2}
08:35:39 <Gs30ng> CAABC udage!
08:35:40 <GS01NG> Result:
08:35:40 <GS01NG> Udages and Cells that are 1: ['C']
08:35:40 <GS01NG> Nonzero Pointer Values: {'B': 1}
08:36:05 <Gs30ng> oops... the interpreter does not initialize itself...
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09:46:18 <Keymaker> hello
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15:56:59 <nooga> hi guyz
15:58:02 <nooga> GregorR: you'll respond for 15 min again? :)
16:05:48 <nooga> will you *
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16:47:52 <nooga> tokigun
17:06:34 <nooga> -.-'
17:06:57 <Gs30ng> i think he's sleeping now
17:07:17 <Gs30ng> it's AM one o'clock here
17:07:19 <nooga> yea
17:07:28 <nooga> that's possible
17:07:34 <nooga> i hate timezones
17:07:59 <nooga> and fact that the earth is a sphere ;p
17:09:10 <Gs30ng> you're right. we should make alternative world with befunge
17:09:27 <nooga> :D
17:09:31 <Gs30ng> so with 2-dimensional earth
17:09:34 <Gs30ng> no timezone
17:09:56 <jix> 2-dimensional earth has timezones (if you reduce the speed of light)
17:11:02 <nooga> yea
17:11:25 <nooga> and differences between that timezones are in microseconds ;p
17:12:05 <Gs30ng> we need a static sun on 2d earth then
17:12:10 <jix> nooga: no
17:12:19 <jix> if you say.. light travels with... 1m/h
17:12:36 <jix> you have a timezone every 1m
17:12:58 <jix> i'm working on compression again...
17:12:59 <Gs30ng> somebody's gonna turn that sun on/off a day
17:13:24 <nooga> but light *DOESNT* travel with 1m/h
17:14:08 <jix> 18:09:34<jix>2-dimensional earth has timezones >>>(if you reduce the speed of light)<<<
17:14:38 <jix> that's the reason discworld has timezones
17:15:58 <nooga> brb
17:16:11 <nooga> but we *DONT* want to have timezones!
17:16:27 <Gs30ng> then we can have facial sun
17:16:37 <Gs30ng> 2-dimensional lightsource in the sky
17:16:40 <jix> we don't need a sun!
17:16:55 <jix> we just tunr the brightness of our screens higher
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17:17:19 <jix> moin WildHalcyon!
17:17:32 <jix> what do you think about timezones?
17:17:41 <WildHalcyon> Hey Jix! What's rockin' in the Jix world?
17:17:48 <Gs30ng> sun.
17:17:58 <WildHalcyon> I think timezones are pathetically artificial constructions and should be done away with entirely
17:18:14 <jix> speed of light of 1m/h and a flat world => timezones every 1m :(
17:18:31 <Gs30ng> wait
17:18:38 <WildHalcyon> We're at the point technologically that each clock could be synced with its latitude and longitude to provide pinpoint accuracy regarding current time
17:18:40 <Gs30ng> we can't see a thing in that world
17:19:08 <jix> Gs30ng: uhm we can see it.. but.. it laggs^^
17:19:52 <jix> there was a simulator with a 3d thing you put on your head that simmulated speed of light = 30kmh
17:20:10 <jix> and you were on a bicycle
17:20:15 <jix> i saw it on tv
17:20:35 <Gs30ng> well then is the fact that nothing can speed more than light still valid?
17:20:58 <Gs30ng> nothing can speed more than 1m/h? lol
17:21:03 <jix> LOL
17:21:33 <jix> electric signals move with speed of light right?
17:21:42 * WildHalcyon is very slow
17:22:27 <jix> i think the longest feedback cycle in a cpu is a few meters long ... that would make computer awful slow
17:23:44 <WildHalcyon> Jix, not to mention the fact that you couldn't see the screen for an hour
17:24:20 <jix> right
17:24:38 <jix> and internet...
17:24:56 <Gs30ng> well we have nothing to worry about
17:24:59 <WildHalcyon> It would take several days to have this conversation
17:25:06 <jix> hmm sound can't move faster than speed because sound is movement of molecules and thus must be slower than light
17:25:11 <Gs30ng> our mind is then slower than 1m/h
17:25:18 <Gs30ng> we're not gonna feel anything slow
17:25:25 <WildHalcyon> It would take several minutes to talk with my neighbor
17:25:27 <Gs30ng> just think everything's working as well
17:25:33 <jix> Gs30ng: good point
17:26:05 <jix> Gs30ng: everything would still look funny if we move
17:26:13 <jix> even if our brain works slower
17:26:13 <WildHalcyon> we would redefine our concept of seconds and hours
17:26:36 <jix> is there an esolang that works with speed of light = 1m/h
17:27:20 <Gs30ng> takes several years to print out Hello, World
17:29:59 <WildHalcyon> like malbolge?
17:31:50 <Gs30ng> ã……ã…Š
17:31:51 <Gs30ng> no
17:32:39 <Gs30ng> if we have a malbolge hello world code then it's easy to execute and see it
17:33:10 <Gs30ng> but in 1m/h language..
17:34:44 <WildHalcyon> I was referring to the fact that it took several years for someone to develop a hello world program ;-) kind of crappy humor for a crappy sorta day
17:35:37 <jix> can i test if a program is compiled with debug symbols from the c preprocessor?
17:38:19 <GregorR> WildHalcyon: I don't like your timezone idea :P
17:38:29 <WildHalcyon> no Gregor?
17:39:12 <GregorR> If I'm in Portland and I have a friend in Bend, and we want to meet at 1:30, and it's an hour to get there, I should be able to leave at 12:30, not 12:00 - making all clocks synced by location just makes infinite many very complicated timezones.
17:39:29 <GregorR> Also, that's the fastest car ever if it takes an hour :P
17:39:58 <tokigun> nooga: hello :)
17:40:31 <tokigun> ehm recently i was busy because of homeworks and projects and so on... sorry :S
17:40:35 <WildHalcyon> Well, that's why you agree to meet at 1:30 bend time. Just because its an hour drive doesn't mean its an hour timezone difference
17:41:22 <WildHalcyon> wait, nm that makes no sense
17:41:41 <GregorR> Bend is (south)east of here, timezone wise it's probably a half hour away, so I would have to leave a half hour before an hour before we're supposed to meet in Bend time - we have to agree on /some/ time to meet!
17:42:22 <GregorR> Again, magically fast car, it's more like three hours away and probably not 30 minutes timezone wise XD
17:43:17 <jix> afaik before timezones were invented people used local time and it was chaos with trains etc... that's why there are timezones
17:43:28 <Gs30ng> that's why we need a goto instruction for languages
17:43:34 <WildHalcyon> Hmm, but that was also before gps and mapquest
17:44:12 <jix> thay had exact local time (i don't know the english word ... clocks that use the sun and shadow)
17:44:21 <Gs30ng> sundial
17:44:41 <WildHalcyon> See gs30ng? Not bad english at all
17:44:48 <Gs30ng> thanks :)
17:44:58 <jix> the problem ist if the train takes 5 minutes it arrives 3 minutes later (local time)
17:46:12 <Gs30ng> i just remember that word because i was once so praised by my english teacher by knowing that word
17:47:08 <Gs30ng> it, in a way, looks like kinda easy word but also a little bit esoteric
17:47:26 <GregorR> I only have one bottle of Moxie left, and almost a week until I buy more!
17:48:06 * Gs30ng starts to program a 99 bottles of Moxie code for GregorR.
17:48:13 <GregorR> 8-D
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17:56:17 <GregorR> According to babelfish, your leave message was "Only the former goes"
17:56:31 <GregorR> However, that phrase has no meaning in English, so I'm pretty sure babelfish failed :P
17:57:01 <WildHalcyon> I've gotten babelfish to translate some kooky stuff before though.
17:57:26 <Gs30ng> lol
17:58:07 <Gs30ng> i should change my default quit message then
17:58:14 <Gs30ng> something that bablefish can translate
17:58:30 <WildHalcyon> One of the earliest babelfish incarnations had difficulty understanding "never" when translated into spanish.
17:59:23 <jix> bable물고기는 실패했다
18:00:08 <Gs30ng> oh god
18:00:21 <jix> what did i say?
18:00:38 <Gs30ng> bable fish has failed, i think
18:00:50 <jix> i tried to say that
18:00:54 <jix> but what did i say?
18:01:05 <Gs30ng> that.
18:01:17 <Gs30ng> "bable fish has failed"
18:01:20 <Gs30ng> you said this
18:01:21 <jix> than the msg is wrong
18:01:40 <jix> because it didn't fail
18:01:42 <Gs30ng> in korean its "bable fish has failed"
18:01:45 <Gs30ng> lol
18:02:07 <Gs30ng> seems it work for some simple sentences
18:02:31 <jix> 너는 ì´ê²ƒì„ ì½ì„?
18:03:04 <tokigun> "(can) you read this?"
18:03:06 <Gs30ng> yeap
18:03:16 <Gs30ng> tokigun, no
18:03:32 <jix> it was "you can't read this"
18:03:40 <tokigun> oops.
18:03:52 <jix> translating it back to english is: It will read this it spreads out
18:04:00 <GregorR> XD
18:04:03 <Gs30ng> awful
18:04:18 <GregorR> /sexy/
18:04:26 <WildHalcyon> ì´ê²ƒì´ ì½ê¸° 쉽 나는 ì´ê²ƒì„ ì½ì„ 수 있었다
18:04:39 <jix> my quit msg is: Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht
18:04:46 <GregorR> This read and swip the possibility of reading this there was I
18:04:49 <jix> it's a typo...
18:04:53 <GregorR> I have not even a clue what that means :P
18:05:06 <WildHalcyon> I typed in "I could read this if this were readable"
18:05:16 <jix> GregorR: fish helps (it translates correct)
18:05:31 <tokigun> WildHalcyon: its meaning is "this (is) read easily i can read this" roughly
18:05:51 <WildHalcyon> See? Babelfish is fun!
18:05:56 <GregorR> lol
18:06:06 <jix> GregorR: what?
18:06:19 <tokigun> yeah... babelfish is fun. really fun. :p
18:06:22 <GregorR> Babelfish is indeed fun XD
18:06:32 <jix> someone translated my quit msg?
18:07:03 <tokigun> i cannot understand Deutsche
18:07:14 <WildHalcyon> "There are 99 bottles of beer on the wall" --> ë²½ì— ë§¥ì£¼ì˜ 99ê°œì˜ ë³‘ 있는다 --> "There are pulse attention 99 bottles by the wall,"
18:07:19 <jix> tokigun: use babelfish
18:07:23 <tokigun> hmmm
18:07:27 <Gs30ng> Babelfish is just like most of esolangs... it's so fun but also only fun, like if you try to make something pragmatic...
18:07:39 <WildHalcyon> Didnt work jix
18:07:51 <jix> it does!
18:07:56 <tokigun> jix: babelfish says "Please you select a funeral message"
18:07:59 <tokigun> is it right?
18:08:03 <jix> yes
18:08:20 <jix> Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht is my quit msg... Bitte waehlen Sie eine BeeNdigungnachricht is the default quit msg of some clients
18:08:37 <WildHalcyon> Oh, I thought it was dutch, not german.. my bad
18:08:56 <jix> the 2nd is: Please select a quit msg
18:09:08 <jix> the 1st is: Please select a funeral msg
18:09:24 <Gs30ng> check out the interwiki links on the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_language
18:09:26 <jix> only one letter changed
18:10:20 <Gs30ng> seems there are English, 한국ì¸, Deutsche, Espanol interested in esolang
18:10:37 <Gs30ng> oops, russian there?
18:10:48 <tokigun> РуÑÑкий!
18:11:15 <Gs30ng> ЭзотеричеÑкие Ñзыки программированиÑ.
18:11:50 <jix> Keymaker lives in Finland
18:11:59 <jix> nooga in Poland
18:12:10 <WildHalcyon> I knew a finnish girl once, she was hot
18:12:23 <jix> i thought it's cold in Finland...
18:12:29 <Gs30ng> lol
18:12:38 <WildHalcyon> it is, so her body temperature had to overcompensate
18:12:46 <jix> ah ok..
18:13:02 <WildHalcyon> who is the esolang spaniard?
18:13:17 <jix> are there female esolang programmers?
18:13:41 <WildHalcyon> none that I know of. And every female I've mentioend esolangs towards just looks at me funny
18:14:06 <jix> haha
18:14:19 <WildHalcyon> most men do also
18:14:25 <jix> true...
18:14:29 <Gs30ng> once female appeared on the history of this channel
18:14:36 <Gs30ng> and only once afaik
18:14:46 <Gs30ng> the girl with nickname 'rosemary'
18:14:49 <GregorR> LIES!
18:14:50 <GregorR> FABRICATIONS!
18:15:06 <jix> maybe rosemary is a ... bot?
18:15:19 <Gs30ng> maybe she typed typo of exoteric well...
18:15:38 <jix> it took years until the first girl joined #macintosh@euirc
18:15:39 <Gs30ng> you can look up the channel log to check it
18:17:01 <Gs30ng> i don't clearly remember when was it but i think calamari was there with me
18:17:21 <jix> no rosemary in my logs
18:17:48 <WildHalcyon> I remember seeing it
18:18:06 <Gs30ng> just after rosemary parted keymaker joined, so calamari told him 'you've just missed a historical event lol' or something like that
18:18:26 <Gs30ng> anyway i agree with you guys that there's no female esolang programmer
18:18:57 <WildHalcyon> There should be. Im sure a female would provide excellent esolang ideas
18:19:44 <Gs30ng> erm.. for example?
18:19:58 <jix> hmm female programmers on irc are somewhat rare => female esolang programmers on irc are even rarer
18:20:21 <jix> on #ruby-lang there are afaik 3/300
18:20:40 <jix> maybe if we get 100 users there will be one female esolang programmer
18:20:55 <Gs30ng> no it will be harder
18:21:14 <jix> we need more publicity
18:21:17 <GregorR> I think in #esoteric it would be more like 1/10000000000000000000000
18:21:21 <WildHalcyon> Exactly
18:21:23 <Gs30ng> because ruby is no esoteirc
18:21:24 <WildHalcyon> tshirts would help
18:21:36 <jix> tv shows
18:21:38 <Gs30ng> tshirts... what on it?
18:21:47 <GregorR> http://www.cafepress.com/esolangs
18:21:49 <WildHalcyon> Everyone wearing a tshirt looks like someone you'd like to get to know better
18:21:50 <jix> something only esolang programmers understand
18:22:12 <GregorR> Whoops, mal-link ...
18:22:43 <GregorR> http://www.cafepress.com/esoprog
18:22:45 <jix> and if someone asks you "wtf is that?" you say "you have to be fluent in 100 esolangs to understand that" and than everyone is going to lern esolangs
18:22:57 <GregorR> lol
18:23:03 <jix> or maybe not
18:23:19 <jix> http://www.cafepress.com/esoprog.32075179 << there is a shorter bf in bf
18:23:57 <GregorR> More = more ufn
18:23:59 <GregorR> fun even
18:24:21 <jix> but you could print a bf in bf and a .. uhm * in bf on ONE mouspad => more fun
18:24:58 <WildHalcyon> What about a bf mug like: http://www.cafepress.com/shop/geeks/browse/store/math_shirts.10760566
18:25:24 <WildHalcyon> I've got a few whitespace tshirts in my closet
18:25:32 <GregorR> XD
18:25:57 <jix> WildHalcyon: i have a whitespace tattoo right on my face!
18:26:12 <WildHalcyon> You're hardcore Jix
18:26:28 <WildHalcyon> Does anyone have a brainfuck tat?
18:33:35 <Gs30ng>                                                       
18:33:46 <Gs30ng> ~udage
18:33:46 <Gs30ng>                                                       
18:33:47 <chips> Usage: ~udage {code}
18:33:51 <Gs30ng> damn
18:34:02 <Gs30ng> i made a udage code with only whitespaces
18:34:19 <Gs30ng> ~udage '
18:34:19 <chips> result: ''
18:34:19 <Gs30ng>                                                       '
18:34:20 <chips> order: 0
18:34:25 <grim_> yikes
18:34:53 <grim_> that does not look so good on a terminal
18:34:59 <GregorR> lol
18:37:31 <GregorR> http://www.cafepress.com/esoprog.33142406
18:40:29 <Gs30ng> ~udage                                                       
18:40:30 <chips> RunTimeError exceptions.UnicodeDecodeError('cp949' codec can't decode bytes in position 1-2: illegal multibyte sequence)
18:40:46 <WildHalcyon> Very nice gregor
18:41:06 <WildHalcyon> I like the back
18:42:16 <WildHalcyon> Hey, there's a link to the wiki!!!
18:42:19 <WildHalcyon> Hmm...
18:42:40 <WildHalcyon> I think I have a good shirt idea; but I'll have to work on it further
18:45:51 <WildHalcyon> gs30ng, what's hello world in udage?
18:46:05 <Gs30ng> erm
18:46:06 <Gs30ng> wait
18:46:43 <Gs30ng> ~udage ESSSSEOOEOOOSSSSSEEOOEOESSSSSEEOEEOOSSSSSEEOEEOOSSSSSEEOEEEESSSSSEOEEOOSSSSSEOOOOOSSSSSEOEOEEESSSSSEEOEEEESSSSSEEEOOEOSSSSSEEOEEOOSSSSSEEOOEOOSSSSSEOOOOES
18:46:43 <chips> result: 'Hello, World!'
18:46:43 <chips> order: 0 1 13 25 37 49 61 72 83 95 107 119 131 143
18:47:36 <WildHalcyon> What was the one you used yesterday? With the '/' and '-'?
18:48:10 <Gs30ng> you know, udage is also symbol independant
18:48:29 <WildHalcyon> Gregor, whats your favorite language?
18:48:39 <WildHalcyon> oh, right...
18:48:43 <Gs30ng> you can just replace that E, S, and O to something else, and the code will work as well
18:48:50 <WildHalcyon> Will do boss ;-)
18:52:17 <WildHalcyon> The idea being, of course, that we should put a whole bunch of languages on a shirt that all say "Hello, World!" more or less
18:53:40 <Gs30ng> or we can put a polyglot
18:54:23 <Gs30ng> A code that prints Hello, World! in many esolangs
18:55:31 <WildHalcyon> True, but it requires much more work than I precisely feel in investing.
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18:59:09 <WildHalcyon> I was hoping to include a language written by each individual, but Gregor needs to write a more terse language!!!
19:05:13 <GregorR> 2L isn't terse enough for you?!?!?!
19:05:23 <GregorR> I guess it isn't, really :P
19:05:29 <WildHalcyon> lol, not really sir
19:05:40 <WildHalcyon> Hello World is a couple pages long..
19:05:47 <GregorR> 4, printed out XZD
19:05:49 <GregorR> *XD
19:06:40 <WildHalcyon> I dont know if that would fit well on a shirt
19:15:19 <GregorR> I feel like anything I start to write is trampling on already-implemented territory.
19:15:24 <GregorR> Udage was original, wish I'd thought of it ...
19:15:31 <GregorR> s/was/is/
19:15:57 <WildHalcyon> Udage is pretty cool
19:17:29 <WildHalcyon> That's why all the languages Ive been coming up with are.. more like 'reimplementations', which probably isnt very good
19:17:50 <WildHalcyon> Im hoping to feel inspired at some point
19:18:01 <Gs30ng> the reason that i came up with udage is
19:18:16 <Gs30ng> like, there's an esolang named Aheui
19:18:24 <Gs30ng> uses Hangul, Korean alphabet
19:18:58 <Gs30ng> subtitle of Aheui, "Why should ASCII have all the fun?" inspired me
19:19:27 <Gs30ng> Aheui uses Hangul, so no ascii programmers can code in it without some auxilary tools
19:19:58 <Gs30ng> but i enjoyed programming in it, realizing that coding in one's own native language is great
19:20:02 <GregorR> Whereas Udage could be written by anybody, though their code may then be difficult (not impossible) for another person to read :P
19:20:26 <GregorR> s/by anybody/in any (unicode-supported) language/
19:20:52 <Gs30ng> in that point i saw that there could be a language which can wrote in any kind of language
19:20:58 <Gs30ng> that's how udage came out
19:21:50 <Gs30ng> GregorR, I'm preparing some stuffs related to udage, like use MIDI file as a source code
19:21:52 <Gs30ng> or Image
19:22:00 <GregorR> Awesome
19:22:29 <Gs30ng> you can easily see it's possible with small efforts
19:22:51 <GregorR> Mmmhmm
19:23:15 <Gs30ng> afk for a while
19:24:28 <jix> Gs30ng: is the instruction jumped to executed or the next instruction?
19:24:47 <jix> like if i have abcdTefgh and T is the jump target is the instruction T or e?
19:26:54 <jix> Gs30ng: ping
19:31:49 <jix> Gs30ng: PINGPINGPING?!
19:32:02 <jix> ah
19:32:06 <jix> it's in the spec faq ^^
19:32:21 <Gs30ng> back
19:32:31 <jix> ;)
19:32:32 <Gs30ng> right, i expected that kind of question
19:32:46 <jix> you expected people to read the spec faq right?
19:32:59 <Gs30ng> apparently, yes
19:35:17 <GregorR> I love when "FAQ" doesn't mean "frequently asked questions", but instead "expected questions"
19:35:19 <WildHalcyon> bad move gs, no one EVER reads the spec faq. Unless there isnt one, then you get people asking questions like "Hey, where's the spec faq? I want to read it!"
19:35:44 <Gs30ng> lol
19:36:28 <Gs30ng> well... then should i merge spec page and faq page?
19:36:56 <jix> yes
19:36:59 <Gs30ng> like, faq about Conditional jump is right after the Conditional jump spec?
19:37:00 <Gs30ng> ok
19:37:23 <WildHalcyon> brb, gotta shave
19:41:28 <Gs30ng> merged
19:41:48 <Gs30ng> http://gs30ng.exca.net/udage/Specification
19:48:24 <WildHalcyon> Ive got more research to do than I expected
19:50:02 <jix> Gs30ng: i'm writing a udage interpreter in ruby (RuDage) that is fun to read!
19:50:08 <jix> well you can read it
19:51:22 <Gs30ng> Ruby-Udage - Rudage. cool
19:51:32 <Gs30ng> i'm writing it in python
19:52:07 <Gs30ng> i've just implemented all spec except for input... it's crazy
19:52:25 <Gs30ng> i don't believe that i wrote that part of spec
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20:52:27 <jix> hey
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20:54:35 <jix> forget the fun to read part...
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21:20:22 <GregorR> Gs30ng: Hmm, how is EOF handled?
21:21:25 <Gs30ng> erm
21:21:27 <Gs30ng> Pardon?
21:21:58 <GregorR> When reading input, how does it know that the file is ende?
21:21:58 <GregorR> ended even
21:22:09 <Gs30ng> aha
21:22:15 <Gs30ng> input 1 unicode character
21:22:52 <Gs30ng> read only 1 character... that's all in spec
21:23:21 <GregorR> You'd think that upon nitpicking the spec I would have got that ...
21:23:55 <Gs30ng> i'm not sure how it should work... it's on respective implementation, i think
21:24:07 <GregorR> Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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21:24:59 <Keymaker> hehe, cool shirt gregorr
21:25:02 <Keymaker> the whitespace one
21:25:05 <noricube> Gs30ng: ..
21:25:13 <Keymaker> (btw, has anyone bought that stuff yet ;))
21:25:16 <Gs30ng> noricube, sup
21:26:00 <GregorR> Keymaker: Thank you, and no ;)
21:26:43 <Keymaker> :)
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21:39:53 <Keymaker> i think i'll go to sleep. i don't feel like staying up tonight.. now just hoping if could see something non-nightmare :)
21:40:10 <Keymaker> good night
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22:09:30 <barosl> Gs30ng, hi
22:09:38 <Gs30ng> hi barosl
22:10:02 <Gs30ng> OMG now there's 5 korean in #esoteric
22:10:14 <barosl> Gs30ng, what server of hanirc are you in? [..]
22:10:21 <Gs30ng> [...]
22:10:36 <Gs30ng> i'm not in
22:10:51 <Gs30ng> seems all the servers are unavailable currently
22:11:27 <Gs30ng> why don't you just use google talk to ask such a thing? :)
22:11:28 <barosl> no, iz4u is available
22:11:33 <Gs30ng> iz4u
22:11:35 <Gs30ng> ok
22:19:13 <noricube> ..
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23:26:20 * GregorR wonders who noricube is ..
23:27:40 <Gs30ng> he is the developer of chips
23:31:38 <GregorR> Ahhhhhh
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