00:00:06 yeah, that 8th dimension is a real mystery 00:02:27 GregorR: checking command line arguments of a osx.app is somewhat stupid 00:02:48 mac os x passes -psn something to all double clicked apps... directnet tries to parse that... 00:03:30 DAMN YOU MAC OS X!!! 00:03:31 :P 00:03:45 how does directnet work? 00:03:58 It's a mesh network. 00:04:06 You connect to some other DN user ... 00:04:10 Then you're on ... THE MESH 00:04:18 ok i want to connect to someone 00:04:30 gpg username? 00:04:36 d/l complete.. now to compiel 00:04:55 jix: If you don't have GPG, don't put in a GPG username ;) 00:05:13 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 00:37:39 -!- sekhmet has joined. 00:43:33 -!- puzzlet has joined. 00:51:14 -!- graue has joined. 00:54:01 -!- Sgeper has quit. 00:54:17 -!- Sgep has quit (Success). 00:57:57 -!- Sgep has joined. 01:04:40 hello 01:12:34 moin sekhmet, puzzlet, graue, Sgep 01:12:41 hi jix 01:12:56 moin 01:14:19 puzzlet: do you know the gp2x? 01:14:51 heard of. that's all 01:15:33 I've heard of it, but I'm skeptical of whether it will be as good as rumored 01:16:06 i can't wait for my gp2x to arrive 01:16:24 you'll have to inform me of whether it is actually good, since, if so, I might obtain one 01:21:08 they don't multitask, do they? 01:21:27 it runs linux so multitasking is no problem 01:21:38 but they don't multitask the built in apps 01:21:48 and there can be only one sdl screen 01:22:11 so only one app can communicate with the user 01:22:40 is SDL the only way to make games on it? 01:22:44 no 01:22:49 oh, that's good 01:23:12 using linux sdl is the only way to get a screen buffer (sdl_surface is just a image buffer) 01:23:38 so, written any subskin programs lately? 01:23:45 using HH (hardcore homebrew firmware (under development not yet released not made by gph)) it's possible to talk with the hardware directly 01:23:55 that will be neat 01:23:56 graue: hmm i wrote a quine... 01:24:02 a new one? 01:24:09 hmm 01:24:25 i had some different versions 01:24:31 not quine1.subskin dated september 12th? 01:25:13 i have quin2.subskin 01:25:33 dated september 12th 01:25:52 you gave me a quine2.subskin that day and told me if I added it to the file archive I should call it quine1.subskin, because the 2 was just due to your bootstrapping process, or something like that 01:25:54 and quine1.subskin is dated september 11th here 01:26:06 yes i know the 2 was bootstrapping 01:26:13 but the 2 i have here is different from the online version 01:26:17 ah 01:26:29 i did some cleanup 01:27:00 http://rafb.net/paste/results/4NW7wq58.txt 01:29:07 i have a undocumentated subskin-assembler-hack and 2 programs written using it (quine and 99bob) should they be in the archive too? 01:36:57 -!- cmeme has quit ("Client terminated by server"). 01:40:24 -!- cmeme has joined. 01:42:11 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 02:01:24 jix: sure 02:02:36 !bf8 +++++++++++++++++++++[->+++>-------<<]>+++++++++.>--------.+++++++..+++.>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.<<<++++++++++. 02:02:50 QUE?! 02:02:53 Hello World! 02:04:30 jix: does the subskin-assembler-hack quine print out its source code in the assembler language, or in subskin? 02:05:04 in subskin 02:05:12 i used it to generate quine1.subskin and quine2.subskin 02:05:16 oh 02:05:43 it allows one to not readjust every adress if the code moves by 1 byte 02:06:05 that sounds useful 02:16:29 -!- cmeme has joined. 02:29:15 so are you going to post this assembler hack somewhere somehow? 02:30:35 oh yes 02:30:43 hmm can i dcc you? 02:33:46 no 02:34:27 you can privately message me a password for svn access to the file archive, if you wish 02:37:00 i don't know svn commands 02:37:42 i'm going to upload it tomorrow 02:37:45 gn 02:37:54 8 02:37:57 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 02:39:43 -!- KevinN has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 02:39:59 Fine, everybody just leave :'( 02:55:57 hmm? 03:25:02 * Sgep goes to attempt to write a python implementation of something 03:30:58 * Sgep works on implementing Foobar and Foobaz and Barbaz, oh my! 03:31:20 heh, that's a funny language 03:31:25 at least the name is 03:35:46 Monty Python's Flying Whitespace! 03:35:53 Hmm? 03:36:08 Juuuust a subtle mockery of Python's indentation significance. 03:36:51 Hardest part of processing that language is related to my lack of string-handling skills... 03:37:06 *The Foobar one 03:40:07 So far, the interpreter does absolutely NO checking to see if it makes sense 03:42:22 -!- puzzlet has quit (Client Quit). 03:42:57 -!- puzzlet has joined. 03:47:08 repuzz 03:49:55 yay 03:51:54 So far, my interpreter is going to allow the user to get away with using , instead of " and " and ", oh my" 03:51:59 :-/ 03:54:07 why don't you have yacc create a parser for you? 03:54:12 yacc? 03:54:20 Because I have no clue what yacc is 03:54:52 Ow 03:55:32 it's a UNIX program that generates parsers 03:55:36 type 'man yacc' 03:56:50 Need documentation 03:57:39 Please tell me that Python can use the generated parser easily 03:58:04 I guess it can't 04:01:46 * Sgep installs pyparsing 04:06:48 -!- graue has quit ("Leaving"). 04:39:06 * Sgep is almost done 04:40:09 -!- mad has joined. 04:40:12 hey 04:41:14 hi mad 04:41:20 I think I finished it 04:47:16 -!- mad has changed nick to Madbrain. 04:51:53 I wonder how a script designed for writing 2d video games could be like 04:53:40 These things are really light on data storage requirements 04:53:57 But are heavier on behaviour, interactions, collisions 05:01:58 * Sgep wrote an implementation of http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Foobar_and_Foobaz_and_Barbaz,_oh_my! 05:02:22 doesn't seem very complicated 05:03:14 But it wasn't implemented 05:03:27 * Sgep needed an easy language to implement 05:04:19 too bad it's not turing complete 05:05:11 * Sgep just notices 05:05:58 I've yet to implement my lastest lang... 05:06:45 But it's complicated stuff to implement 05:07:45 * Sgep had difficulty even implementing what he did implement 05:08:54 It involves some very dynamic memory stuff, which I have to learn to do properly in C++ or switch to a more appropriate language... perhaps java 05:09:45 And crazy recursion optimisation so the stack doesn't explode 05:11:48 -!- Sgep has quit. 05:39:10 -!- Madbrain has quit ("Christians believe Jesus can save your soul; atheists believe Hungry Man TV dinners are a quick and easy dinner solution for ). 06:22:03 http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/GregorRichards/Cruising.jpg 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:10:19 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 10:59:42 -!- jix has joined. 11:38:14 -!- ZeroOne has changed nick to Zero0ne. 11:38:20 -!- Zero0ne has changed nick to ZeroOne. 12:25:41 -!- marcan has quit ("Lost terminal"). 12:46:09 -!- Milan30 has joined. 12:46:42 -!- Milan30 has left (?). 14:52:13 -!- kipple has joined. 16:57:01 -!- Sgep has joined. 17:02:53 sgep: is you foobar and barbaz implementation available anywhere? 17:03:08 * Sgep will post it on a pastebin service now 17:04:37 The horrible code is here: 17:04:42 http://rafb.net/paste/results/jFdGal77.html 17:04:56 First it asks for filename of the program, then it executes it 17:05:05 Raises IndexError when program is done 17:05:22 And uses the pyparsing module 17:05:53 Not really well tested 17:06:03 And I accidentally pasted it as formatted as C++ 17:07:21 ok. thanks :) 17:07:31 yw 17:07:50 And it could be horribly incorrect... 17:10:45 * kipple changes foobar and foobaz... to implemented 17:12:17 There should really be a poorly implemented category 17:12:22 haha 17:12:28 is it so bad? 19:18:08 -!- heatsink has joined. 19:32:42 -!- ChanServ has quit (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 19:51:01 -!- ChanServ has joined. 19:51:01 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 20:19:06 Is the sample program for switching at http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Foobar_and_Foobaz_and_Barbaz,_oh_my! correct? 20:19:48 My interpreter (which is very buggy) doesn't like it, but the program there presumably wasn't tested either... 20:38:31 Yay! 20:38:39 I fixed my interpreter to work with boygirl.omy 20:38:59 Except that newlines and comments need to be stripped out 20:44:50 http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/User:Sgeo/ffbimp 20:45:16 *yawn* 20:45:33 hmm? 20:45:46 I'm not yawning at your convo. 20:45:49 Just my morning tiredness. 21:15:23 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 21:56:46 brb 23:13:00 -!- pgimeno has joined. 23:27:26 hi pgimeno 23:27:53 hi 23:40:39 -!- calamari has joined. 23:42:37 hi 23:43:20 ¡Hola señor! 23:50:32 hi Gregor