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04:30:15 <Sgep> Really should be working on Mo** ***** [censored to protect name of project in fear that it might reveal something about my age]
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04:39:41 <Sgep> Bye all
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07:43:29 <GregorR> ¿Dondé esta el canal por discusión de lenguajes de programación esotéricos en Inglés?
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20:33:53 <Keymaker> good evening
20:33:59 <Keymaker> is anybody out there?
20:35:43 <jix> me
20:36:10 <Gs30ng> and me
20:36:12 <jix> i just found a new (well infinity new) integer sequences...
20:38:37 <jix> it's defined as floor(1/fractional_part(pi*base^item)) .. item is starting with 0
20:39:06 <Keymaker> could you post some of the first numbers?
20:39:09 <jix> the first few terms for base 10 are: 7,2,6,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,3,4,2,1,2,1,3,1,2,2,2,1,3,3,1,1,1,34,3,1,1,2,5,1,\
20:39:09 <jix> 1,5,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,9,17,1,1,4,10,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,4,3,12,1,1,6,1,2,15,1,3,1,1,\
20:39:09 <jix> 4,11,1,1,1,1,1,3,1,28,2,2,1,3,1,2,2,4,8,5,1,14,1,1,1,1
20:39:43 <Keymaker> it looks interesting
20:40:05 <jix> there is even a constant for each base...
20:40:15 <jix> take the sequence as terms for a continued fraction...
20:41:00 <jix> for base 10 it's about 7.4645956186935248821352526824565788450892587833567236004356404248344757360301\
20:41:00 <jix> 88725175194269758874735
20:41:18 <jix> i think it's irrational
20:44:54 <jix> oh base can be a non-natural number too
20:46:23 <Keymaker> wouldn't be easy to make a program print out them in brainfuck
20:46:32 <jix> yes...
20:46:43 <jix> bbl
20:47:07 <Keymaker> ok
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21:25:19 <calamari> hi
21:25:40 <Gs30ng> grouped calamari
21:26:09 <calamari> segregated Gs30ng
21:26:45 <Keymaker> hi calamari
21:26:52 <calamari> hi keymaker
21:27:01 <Gs30ng> we should put /me before our messages
21:27:06 <calamari> I need to enter my contest so you can win your abacus, don't I? :)
21:27:37 <Keymaker> actually no ;)
21:27:48 <Keymaker> you only talked about having at least one submission, and i've made two ;)
21:27:52 <calamari> lol
21:27:57 <calamari> okay then :)
21:28:05 <Keymaker> ..but otherwise, you must :)
21:28:30 <Keymaker> i managed to squeeze two bytes. my final entry is thus 400 bytes exactly
21:29:18 <calamari> cool
21:29:40 <Keymaker> i'll post the md5 tomorrow, too lazy today
21:30:04 * calamari loads up bfdebug
21:30:21 <calamari> dont wait too long ;)
21:30:40 <Keymaker> the competition ends 5th, right?
21:30:51 <calamari> yep
21:30:58 <Keymaker> ok
21:32:48 <calamari> I have a Linux evangelism story...
21:33:03 <calamari> I had to install win2003 for vs.net (my c# class)
21:33:40 <Keymaker> did something go wrong?
21:34:00 <calamari> so my wife used it yesterday.. she mentioned that Linux was better because there was no delay when typing and she missed the middle mouse button functionality :)
21:34:27 <Keymaker> :)
21:35:00 <Keymaker> i don't still have a mouse with a middle button
21:35:13 <calamari> hahaha
21:35:25 <calamari> do you have emulation on?
21:35:31 <Keymaker> what's that?
21:35:58 <calamari> middle mouse button emulation.. you are running x, right ?
21:36:12 <Keymaker> yes, but not at this moment
21:36:21 <Keymaker> but no, i don't have any emulation on
21:36:38 <calamari> you can set it so that clicking both buttons at once produces a middle click
21:36:58 <Keymaker> ok
21:37:18 <Keymaker> i should just get a new mouse.. this old one doesn't even work properly anymore
21:37:32 <Keymaker> one can get a decent three button mouse for under ten euros
21:37:36 <calamari> back in the MS-DOS days I wrote a tsr that did that.. but I used the SysRq key on the keyboard
21:38:02 <calamari> iirc I wrote it for AutoCAD
21:38:08 <Keymaker> ah
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21:44:53 <calamari> one of my homework problems is similar to having a bf with > but no <. Instead of < therei s an instuction to reset the tape to the left side.
21:45:18 <calamari> the trick is to simulate <
21:45:24 <Keymaker> yeah
21:45:29 <Keymaker> interesting :)
21:46:23 <Keymaker> hmm, can't figure it out
21:46:30 <calamari> it's a little different than bf tho.. because it's a turing machine
21:46:50 <Keymaker> ah
21:47:27 <calamari> I think I've figured it out.. just need to work through an example to be sure
21:47:36 <Keymaker> ok
21:47:57 <calamari> of course this probably wouldn't apply to bf hehe
21:48:06 <Keymaker> yeah
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21:58:00 <calamari> bah..
21:58:35 <calamari> I could do it with two tapes
21:58:57 <calamari> but that might be difficult to prove then
21:59:11 <calamari> because the two-tape proof relies on being able to move left
22:00:46 <calamari> anyways :)
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22:03:31 <calamari> ahh, got it :)
22:03:41 <Keymaker> good :)
22:03:56 <calamari> but it wouldn't work for bf, so it's probably not very interesting
22:06:38 <Keymaker> say, do you have anything you would want to ask urban mller about? ;)
22:07:07 <calamari> yeah.. why isn't he still participating in the eso community
22:07:22 <Keymaker> ok
22:07:39 <calamari> did you get ahold of him or something ? :)
22:07:52 <Keymaker> not yet, but i finally sent him e-mail
22:08:01 <Keymaker> and requested i could interview him
22:08:07 <Keymaker> via e-mail, naturally
22:08:25 <calamari> please rephrase my question so that it isn't offensive :)
22:08:33 <Keymaker> yeah, of course :)
22:10:29 <Keymaker> by the way, has he been in the eso circles, other than brainfuck?
22:10:49 <calamari> I don't think so.. didn't he write bf in response to false?
22:11:12 <Keymaker> not sure
22:11:24 <calamari> it just seems weird that bf isn't mentioned on his page.. and he never stops by and notices.. hey cool a bunch of people are using bf.. etc
22:11:34 <Keymaker> yeah
22:11:53 <Keymaker> it's really something if your language is the standard way of proving turing-completeness of a new language
22:11:57 <calamari> yeah
22:12:06 <calamari> wonder if he knows about p''
22:12:28 <Keymaker> no idea, perhaps could be questioned
22:12:56 <calamari> that would be a hard question.. wouldn't want to insinuate that he based bf upon it
22:13:01 <Keymaker> yeah
22:13:19 <Keymaker> i'd say he hasn't heard of p"
22:13:26 <calamari> I'd agree
22:13:51 <calamari> but it would be interesting to see what his response would be to it
22:13:57 <Keymaker> yeah
22:14:18 <Keymaker> about ideas; for example, i've got some crazy ideas that some philosophers have thought hundreds of years ago, at the time i hadn't heard about philosophy at all
22:14:35 <calamari> right
22:15:06 <Keymaker> people can get the same ideas and there often isn't any connection
22:15:52 <calamari> also.. what happened to ben olmstead?
22:16:28 <Keymaker> probably went insane ;)
22:17:33 <Keymaker> perhaps decided to write a malbolge quine, and hasn't been seen since that
22:18:10 <calamari> hey, you're good at quines... ;)
22:21:02 <calamari> hrm.. I can't think about bf while I have homework.. better finish it first :)
22:21:21 <Keymaker> yeah
22:21:26 <Keymaker> let the homework be ;)
22:38:18 <calamari> what is .. called, if it is above a letter?
22:38:37 <Keymaker> umlaut or something?
22:38:40 <Keymaker> not sure
22:38:45 <calamari> thanks
22:39:20 <Keymaker> yeah, it's umlaut
22:40:38 <calamari> yep.. dictionary.com has it.. calls it also a diacritic mark.
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