< 1134520545 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah. < 1134523287 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1134527125 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@61.247.129.159 JOIN :#esoteric < 1134530189 0 :Sgep!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1134541251 0 :Arrogant!i=Arrogant@20.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1134547199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1134547200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1134547662 0 :nooga!n=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1134547665 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiallo < 1134549768 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I AM QUIT HAVE A NICE DAY" < 1134553568 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :dsh < 1134553587 0 :dsh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops... somebody already owned this < 1134553592 0 :dsh!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :hh < 1134553597 0 :hh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :owned too < 1134553615 0 :hh!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :handongseong < 1134553689 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not gs30ng < 1134553741 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gs corporation < 1134553781 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gsretail.com/GS25/main.asp < 1134553789 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate this < 1134553799 0 :kipple!n=kipple@168.80-202-98.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1134553876 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too tiresome to deal with people asking me what's wrong with me and that convenience store company, again and again < 1134554074 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why freenode does not allow UTF-8 nicknames? < 1134554755 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1134555246 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1134555247 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1134555264 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've written SADOL description in the wiki < 1134555289 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1134555329 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm developing a language partially inspired by sadol < 1134555339 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im glad to hear this :> < 1134555896 0 :lirthy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"in truth there is no better place to be" < 1134556150 0 :lirthy!i=klutzy@dor20517.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1134556260 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs another tape language! < 1134556272 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funcional paradigm is soo cool < 1134556328 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(4:C",216!"9(4:C",216!C!C!"9(4:C",216!C!C < a quine without almighty lambda function ;p < 1134558523 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1134558685 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1134558701 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional is too cool < 1134558721 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too cool for guys here in korea :( < 1134558858 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth is that i dont even know LISP :D < 1134558877 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've tried it < 1134559042 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :handongseong: can you tell something about your new language partially inspired by SADOL >? < 1134559064 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1134559072 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's purely functional < 1134559134 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking some ideas from haskell (monad) < 1134559142 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from clean (uniqueness type) < 1134559171 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's gonna be nothing neither monad nor uniqueness type < 1134559209 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1134559213 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok anyway < 1134559217 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are totally not important < 1134559239 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you know, i can only design a language that i can understand < 1134559248 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1134559272 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's gonna be kinda easy-to-learn, but hard-to-actually-program, just like another esoteric ones < 1134559283 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well, it's 2-dimensional < 1134559289 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1134559299 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 dimensional functional language? :> < 1134559307 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may wonder how can i implement purely functional one with a plane < 1134559314 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's something new < 1134559329 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, flow of control is important in 2d ones < 1134559333 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like <>^v < 1134559376 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've got a good idea to combine 2d and functional paradigm, so wait and see how monstrous this one will be < 1134559439 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just can't wait :> < 1134559497 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose this < 1134559519 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a traditional imperative stack-based one < 1134559532 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 pushes 1 on top of the stack, 2 pushes 2... blah blah < 1134559540 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and + addes top 2 elements of the stack < 1134559554 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1134559559 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, here's a functional, reverse polish notation one < 1134559572 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is a nullary function that returns 1 < 1134559589 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ is a binary function that returns the sum of 2 arguments < 1134559599 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, a code like "1 2 +" < 1134559602 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1134559614 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can be both imperative stack based one or functional one < 1134559630 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1134559650 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is where i started designing this lang < 1134559659 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1134559677 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a funge program can be considered partially functional < 1134559681 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1134559732 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1134559778 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw. reverse polish notation is called in Polish language: "odwrotna notacja polska" < 1134559792 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and im Polish :> < 1134559831 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... my language is forward polish notation?! < 1134559847 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ah. you'll see why soon < 1134559849 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he? < 1134559850 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1134559856 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish. that's right < 1134559876 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SADOL is forward polish notation < 1134559880 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want there a Korean-something in computer science < 1134559892 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1134559907 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Korea is kinda graveyard of real computer science -_- < 1134559937 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're making many MMO games :> < 1134559945 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. pragmatic. < 1134559954 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to play MU Online -.-' < 1134559961 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way how did you know that? < 1134559962 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1134559976 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was stupid, simple and addicting :> < 1134559994 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't played MU actually but always seen advertisement of it on subway train < 1134560057 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ragnarok was internationally popular once < 1134560099 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i have tried Lineage 2 < 1134560105 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there it sounds a little bit horrible < 1134560110 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's also Korean < 1134560123 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ragnarok was internationally popular! < 1134560147 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lineage is one of the most successful MMORPG in Korea < 1134560185 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are sexy elves everywhere in it ;p < 1134560206 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1134560239 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be regarded as a big problem by some conservative politicians < 1134560256 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, check the fanarts or concept arts < 1134560263 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lineage2.com/community/fanart.html < 1134560300 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :handongseong, it WAS? < 1134560350 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzlet, since i'm not sure it *is* a hot issue, but i'm sure it was, thus what i said. < 1134560373 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1134560425 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think it's quite important for MMORPG to have beautiful player characters < 1134560440 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the gamers have some kinda... empathy? on their characters < 1134560442 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend of mine knows Hangul < 1134560471 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :socially < 1134560472 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, i've got nude patch for L2 < 1134560480 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1134560488 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for Half Life 2 < 1134560490 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they make patch for everything < 1134560500 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz it's simple < 1134560533 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take some textures of human body, change the models a bit... voila < 1134560555 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho HL@ is the best game ever < 1134560557 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HL2 < 1134560578 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1134560603 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes that kinds of patches worsen the gameplay... i once used no-mosaic patch for an adult game and it was truly horrible < 1134560652 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forced to recover the mosaic immediately, which was impossible, so re-installed the whole game -_- < 1134562663 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've found a cool game < 1134562744 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=653 < 1134562858 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Logical is a classic. < 1134562912 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1134563412 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The adventure game B.A.T. 2 ( http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=83 ) has a befunge-like programming language (albeit sadly quite limited) in it. < 1134564991 0 :nooga!n=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1134565059 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1134565073 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logical is great idea for an esolang < 1134565272 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn.. I have problems with running dosbox under SUSE10 < 1134565736 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, dosbox should be one of the least problematic < 1134565765 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1134566503 0 :jix!i=jix@F32cf.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1134566670 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1134566676 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yast2 eacts werid < 1134566681 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acts* < 1134566900 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1134566903 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got it < 1134566931 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to compile it by myself ;p < 1134569486 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's egobot huh? < 1134570650 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1134572351 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1134572353 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got to go < 1134572487 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1134586973 0 :handongseong!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1134591888 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-130-108.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1134591894 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1134592651 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1134592663 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: no < 1134592665 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1134592738 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i've heard rumours that there was some kind of giant-robot-fighting-game (for NES?) that used a befunge-like control language... but i don't know anything more about it < 1134592749 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be interested, if anyone happens to know < 1134593932 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno about that.. but there is always Atari 2600 Basic Programming < 1134593973 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only problem is the program will be limited to about 6 lines.. past that you have to type the code blind < 1134594265 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey.. there's c robots.. guressing that's not what you are talking about < 1134594276 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's fun :) < 1134594335 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: i screwed up the CPS conversion question :( < 1134594355 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the for-each one < 1134594365 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain exploded < 1134594472 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: is this it? http://www.metahuman.org/martin/pi.html < 1134594725 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not befunge, and not nes.. but it has programmable mechs < 1134595238 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://psxmedia.ign.com/media/reviews/image/chart5.jpg < 1134595382 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: that one was *^!(*^%# hard < 1134595412 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: that might be it! < 1134595442 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could easily have been confusing NES with playstation..... or..... it's possible there was an earlier incarnation < 1134595475 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1134595479 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although... that doesn't look much like befunge < 1134595484 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all < 1134595496 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he migt be using pseudocode < 1134595500 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the lead, anyway < 1134595524 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :np.. might also search for ROBOTWAR.. was for the apple2 < 1134595597 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1134595625 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, wikipedia says that C.H. used a flowchart-like control language... so it probably is close to befunge < 1134595707 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, the similarity was exaggerated :) < 1134595764 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like its $15-20 on ebay < 1134595865 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't own a playstation.. newest console I have is an Atari 7800 < 1134599631 0 :Sgep!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1134602083 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgep < 1134602093 0 :Sgep!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari < 1134603225 0 :GregorR-L!n=chatzill@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1134603464 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :donde esta el EgoBot? 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