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01:06:48 <ihope> Ahoy!
01:06:59 <kipple> yo
01:07:22 <ihope> What be we doin' today?
01:07:33 <kipple> trying out bogusforth
01:08:03 <GregorR> (And more importantly, compiling fibonacci sequence generators with C2BF :) )
01:08:16 <GregorR> (Yeah, that's right.  Recursion works.  Boo-ya)
01:11:11 <ihope> Recursion...
01:11:13 <ihope> !help
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01:11:30 <ihope> What's pbrain?
01:11:50 <ihope> ...Ooh, it looks fun.
01:14:44 <ihope> Now to write a spec for ///
01:14:57 <GregorR> ///?
01:15:10 <ihope> My new esolang.
01:15:16 <GregorR> Ahh
01:15:47 <GregorR> Is it anything like /quit?
01:15:53 <ihope> nope.
01:15:57 <ihope> s/n/N/
01:15:59 <GregorR> Damn, my trick failed :P
01:16:07 <GregorR> You were supposed to type "/quit ?"
01:16:10 <GregorR> And then I would laugh :P
01:16:11 <ihope> :-)
01:16:25 <ihope> It's based on this s/foo/bar/ stuff.
01:16:44 <ihope> It has two symbols: delimiters / and escapes \.
01:17:41 <GregorR> I'll wait 'til there's a wiki page :P
01:36:56 <ihope> Unlike in Malbolge, it's very easy to write a quine in this language.
01:37:08 <ihope> Any string containing neither \ nor / is a quine.
01:37:36 <GregorR> Like `cat` X-P
01:37:55 <ihope> :-P
01:38:07 <ihope> It's another of those a-character-prints-itself languages.
01:38:11 <ihope> And no, it's not cat.
01:39:49 <ihope> Hmm. I knew I had spelled "destonation" wrong.
01:40:10 <kipple> yeah, the s doesn't belong there...
01:40:17 <GregorR> Hah
01:40:48 <GregorR> So guys ... why aren't you adding algorithms to C2BF?
01:40:52 <ihope> You know, this language is similar to Smurf.
01:40:57 <GregorR> It is your CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY.
01:41:00 <ihope> GregorR: where is it?
01:41:19 <GregorR> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/brainfuck/c2bf/
01:42:39 <ihope> Where's cvs.sourceforge.net? :-P
01:44:56 <GregorR> Umm
01:45:46 <ihope> Oh!
01:46:02 <GregorR> 66.35.250.207
01:46:05 <GregorR> :)
01:49:20 <ihope> +++++++++[>++++++>+++++>++++++<<<-]>..>+.>---.<<-.>.>-.<<.>++.--.>.<++.<++.
01:49:36 <GregorR> !bf +++++++++[>++++++>+++++>++++++<<<-]>..>+.>---.<<-.>.>-.<<.>++.--.>.<++.<++.
01:49:40 <EgoBot> 66.35.250.207
01:49:43 <GregorR> -_-
02:02:21 <ihope> And the /// spec is up.
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04:57:29 <calamari> hi
04:58:11 <Arrogant> Hi.
05:00:49 <GregorR> 'lo
05:04:58 <calamari> GregorR: I've been coding for 11 straight hours.. just got home.. my brain is too burnt out to look at those operators tonight
05:05:49 <GregorR> Hah
05:05:52 <GregorR> No problem
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05:18:34 <GregorR> Arrogant wants to implement some algorithms in BF.
05:18:35 <GregorR> I can tell.
05:18:46 <GregorR> He's dying to implement algorithms in BF.
05:18:49 <GregorR> He may not show it.
05:18:51 <GregorR> But oh, he is.
05:19:27 <Arrogant> I can't stand implementing algorithms in BF.
05:19:33 <GregorR> Heh
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17:54:14 <nooga> hi
17:54:22 <nooga> what was the adress of that c2bf cvs?
18:11:16 <nooga> i see ;p
18:12:16 <jix> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/brainfuck/c2bf/
18:12:34 <nooga> kay, got it
18:13:41 <jix> a self compiling c2bf would be cool
18:14:35 <calamari> jix: it's well on its way
18:15:10 <calamari> Gregor's progress is amazing
18:15:34 <calamari> already able to compile simple programs
18:16:03 <nooga> yea
18:16:03 <jix> cool
18:16:25 <jix> i need a cvs tutorial
18:16:41 <nooga> but it will be really fun to write C2BF in that special C and compile it with C2BF :>
18:16:51 * SimonRC goes.
18:20:23 <jix> i get a compile error :(
18:27:33 <calamari> I haven't tried to compile it
18:29:53 <nooga> GregorR is one of the best hackers i've met 
18:31:18 * nooga is listening to Polish blues from 70'
18:31:25 <nooga> want some? ;p
18:38:37 <nooga> no? 
18:38:40 <nooga> why!
18:51:47 <jix> GregorR: it doesn't compile!
18:51:55 <jix> anyone else got it working?
18:54:24 <jix> whoops it was flex's fault
18:54:35 <jix> i had 2 flex versions installed
19:27:47 <nooga> hehe
19:28:13 <nooga> i could hack c2bf to generate code for brainfork
19:28:33 <nooga> though i'll need good AI algorhitm
19:33:00 <nooga> wich will divide program smartly
19:39:06 <nooga> hm
19:45:16 <nooga> GregorR: is there only int in c2bf?
19:53:12 <jix> it's far from complete
19:53:47 <nooga> omg i know
19:54:11 <nooga> but i've considered adding some other simple types
19:54:55 <nooga> by myself
19:55:02 <nooga> but i'm too lazy
19:55:14 <nooga> it's better to watch when other ppl do this :D
19:57:05 <nooga>  I JUST CANT STAND THAT WERID SILENCE OMG
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20:05:59 <nooga> bye
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20:15:29 <calamari> bbl
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20:57:11 <ihope> Ello.
21:16:46 <ihope> So is /// Turing-complete?
21:16:47 <ihope> !help
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21:52:10 <ihope> New term: quineful language, in which every program not containing any of some set of characters is a quine.
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21:59:15 <kipple> hmm. are there many of those?
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23:01:41 * {^Raven^} wibbles
23:02:15 <{^Raven^}> anyone around?
23:03:12 <kipple> no
23:07:06 <GregorR-L> {^Raven^}: This is where you proceed to have a conversation ;)
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23:08:18 <{^Raven^}> i'm on three different machines atm
23:08:24 <GregorR-L> Heh
23:09:16 <{^Raven^}> my irc client is nunning on a machine hundreds of miles away
23:09:53 <{^Raven^}> i've had an idea for an esoteric programming method
23:10:16 <{^Raven^}> but i'm not sure where to start with the programming language made available
23:13:29 <{^Raven^}> i've been boggling for months on what the fundamental language is
23:14:02 <GregorR-L> I think that phrase needs a booming voice behind it.
23:14:03 <GregorR-L> The
23:14:06 <GregorR-L> _FUNDAMENTAL LANGUAGE_
23:14:10 <GregorR-L> *Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah*
23:15:11 <{^Raven^}> The programming technique is atm the most esoteric part of the system
23:17:55 <{^Raven^}> I've got all these ideas of esoteric systems but the actual language itself is not forthcoming
23:18:28 <GregorR-L> Too esoteric for a programming language? ^^
23:19:17 <{^Raven^}> other esoteric languages exist that are based on an esoteric programming technique
23:20:17 <{^Raven^}> i want to aviod cloning an existing base language at all costs
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23:29:09 <GregorR-L> ssh: connect to host cvs.sourceforge.net port 22: Connection refused
23:29:10 <GregorR-L> Grr
23:32:32 <GregorR-L> Teehee - 2004/12/26: nooga plans to write c2bf
23:32:59 <GregorR-L> 2006/01/02: GregorR starts writing C2BF ;)
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23:45:47 <ihope> Mmh.
23:45:49 <ihope> Kipple: ping
23:48:26 <kipple> pong
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23:48:58 <ihope> Okay. The only quineful languages I know of are /// and the dying FCELL.
23:49:14 <kipple> FCELL? never heard of it
23:49:32 <ihope> Well, I got stuck on it. It's the First-Class Execution Language, Lol.
23:50:12 <ihope> It's somewhat similar to ///, but not really.
23:50:45 <ihope> Brackets indicate scope of a syntax element, and the backslash is the escape character.
23:50:51 <ihope> Beyond that, I don't know.
23:51:25 <kipple> all languages which allow null-quines would fit  the description of quineful I think...
23:52:11 <ihope> Well, but that would be quineful in every character. That's not allowed.