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08:26:45 <nooga> GregorR: where do you have this c2bf spec in pdf?
08:27:49 <GregorR> http://www.codu.org/c2bf.pdf
08:27:56 <GregorR> That's a bit out of date though >_>
08:37:55 <GregorR> The biggest diff is that all the multi-cell stuff is now a postprocessing step :P
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08:41:06 <nooga> last updates were 5 days ago
08:57:52 * nooga is translating Pink Floyd's lyrics
08:58:36 <nooga> into Polish, Pink Floyd was English !
08:59:11 <nooga> i don't think i understand "Footfall softly in the pines "
09:06:24 <nooga> they mean that there is a sound of walking from the pine wood?
09:06:43 <nooga> or maybe someone steps carefully in the pine wood?
09:07:07 <GregorR> Hmm, out of context, all that is is a grammatically incorrect, meaningless phrase.
09:07:30 <GregorR> If the words "I hear" are before it, it would be grammatically correct ...
09:09:10 <lament> where's that from? I don't remember that line
09:09:40 <GregorR> <-- terrible person to ask about anything involving any sort of art or otherwise right-brained activity.
09:10:41 <nooga> http://teksty.org/p/pinkfloyd/cryingsong.php
09:11:10 <Uvanta> I'm working on my new simple language named Random
09:11:40 <lament> nooga: and footfall is the sound, yes.
09:12:03 <lament> what album is that song from? more?
09:14:02 <lament> i don't know anything about that album
09:14:08 <lament> because my geography teacher stole my CD :(
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09:15:46 <nooga> i've got it on big, black disc
09:16:05 <GregorR> Those big funky CDs from way-back-when.
09:16:24 <nooga> from the beggining of UNIX epoch :D
09:16:50 <GregorR> At the VERY BEGINNING OF TIME unless you take advantage of the sign bit X-P
09:18:08 <GregorR> And then ... the conversation died.
09:18:21 <Uvanta> Conversation Killa GregorR
09:19:12 <GregorR> agent_J: Heh, we're talking about music. referring to vinyl records ;)
09:20:03 <agent_J> I have couple of vinyl records
09:21:01 * nooga has got "Caldera linux" by evil SCO :D
09:21:20 <nooga> I plan to ritually destroy it
09:21:27 <GregorR> Post-SCO Caldera, not pre-SCO Caldera?
09:22:33 <GregorR> Pre-SCO Caldera was actually sort of OK X-P
09:22:46 <agent_J> I used to have Caldera linux CDs
09:23:27 * agent_J and nooga are going to make ritual destruction of caldera cd
09:25:52 <agent_J> GregorR: are you the author of bf2c ?
09:26:16 <GregorR> No, but I am the author of c2bf.
09:26:35 <GregorR> Well, that's a significant enough difference that I feel entitled to be stingy :P
09:27:02 <agent_J> I've read that paper about bf2c
09:27:21 <GregorR> If you'd like, I can write BF2C, it'll take about ten minutes ;)
09:27:35 <nooga> that was a misprint
09:28:08 <agent_J> Some time ago I wanted to code c2bf
09:28:14 <agent_J> but I wanted to write gcc backend
09:28:33 <GregorR> I ultimately decided against GCC, since it makes some assumptions that aren't really BF-compatible.
09:29:09 <agent_J> unless you write some cpu emulator on top of bf
09:30:17 <nooga> agent_J: but you've almost written gcc backend for nosense... haven't you? (http://regedit.risp.pl/nosense/)
09:30:39 <agent_J> I mean it generates valid code
09:30:50 <agent_J> but I haven't tested it with nosense assembler
09:31:15 <agent_J> I'll have to use gcc 4 instead of 1.42
09:31:24 <nooga> tat screenshot looks very nice: http://regedit.risp.pl/nosense/gfx/scr/linux1.png
09:31:32 <kipple> GregorR: you should include a BF2C compiler with C2BF. then one could compile back and forth a couple of times and get really obfuscated BF code... :)
09:31:49 <GregorR> You mean "ridiculously slow"
09:32:18 <kipple> isn't that the case anyways?
09:32:39 <agent_J> those programs would be impossible to crack
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10:01:25 <nooga> agent_J is good hacker
10:01:52 <nooga> he wrote an OS that can work on multiple machines connected into network
10:01:59 <nooga> as well as on one pc
10:03:24 <nooga> http://agentj.kewlnet.int.pl/images/sense_irc.png
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13:59:47 <jix> no one is here....
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14:55:43 <nooga> what was your homepage?
14:56:05 <jix> i don't have a homepage
14:57:02 <nooga> can i ask you for a little favour?
14:58:23 <nooga> http://nooga.kewlnet.int.pl/cms/ << could u make a screenshot under MacOS ?
14:58:32 <jix> all browsers?
14:58:47 <jix> (safari firefox opera ie mac)?
15:06:39 <jix> nooga: www.harderweb.de/jix/screens.zip
15:07:07 <jix> seems to be fine on all browsers except opera
15:07:33 <jix> and it's fine on IE mac... but no one uses IE mac
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15:13:13 <kipple> strange. looks fine in my Opera. But that's under windows though
15:13:37 <jix> the gradient at the top is broken.
15:14:41 <kipple> ah, yes. that happens here too
15:14:46 <kipple> didn't notice at first
15:15:03 <kipple> the logo is positioned too far down in Opera
15:17:10 <nooga> and i have problems with bottom border of the box on the left
15:17:46 <nooga> it's PAIN to make div based page completely compliant
15:18:15 <jix> nooga: oh and your layout is broken under lynx ;)
15:18:20 <kipple> I don't see anything wrong with IE win here
15:19:01 <kipple> I mean, I don't see anything wrong with your page in IE. But IE itself is another matter.....
15:19:04 <nooga> kipple: under IE on win bottom border of menu is cut by 2px on the left and shifted to the left
15:19:22 <nooga> without any logical reason
15:19:34 <nooga> tried many ways to avoid it ;|
15:21:07 <kipple> strange though, that our two IEs should differ
15:23:34 <nooga> heh, i'm going to play RRobots xD
15:24:38 <jix> nooga: you aren't going to beat my robot
15:24:57 <jix> i won THE ULTIMATE RRobots competition ;)
15:25:14 <nooga> that's only because you're HAL
15:25:21 <jix> i forgot that...
15:25:33 <jix> kipple: program a robot that kills all other robots
15:26:10 <jix> http://rubyquiz.com/quiz59.html << here is the competition page
15:26:19 <nooga> hm... which one? shooting station?
15:26:52 <jix> it isn't in the tracker or forum
15:27:00 <jix> take a look at the quiz page
15:27:08 <jix> it's linked under quiz solutions
15:27:47 <jix> but it's 500 lines of code in size....
15:28:29 <jix> but it has 5 comments so it should be easy to understand ^^
15:29:43 <nooga> i see only some packed thingy
15:29:52 <nooga> http://www.ruby-talk.org/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/172687
15:29:54 <jix> yeah thats mail encoding
15:30:35 <jix> do you have openssl on your computer? (command line)
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15:32:07 <jix> if you have openssl on your computer you can decode it to the original zip file using openssl enc -d -a < file.zip.b64 > file.zip
15:32:07 <nooga> i guess i have, but i'm under M$ EvilOS(tm) atm
15:32:33 <jix> or try to save it as a file with extension .mime or .b64
15:32:50 <jix> maybe some compression program you have installed is able to read that...
15:32:54 <jix> or some mail client
15:33:17 <nooga> downloaded all solutions
15:34:16 <jix> but i didn't expected to win..
15:35:21 <nooga> they always say it
15:35:37 <jix> there is rubber duck in the solutions right?
15:35:41 <jix> its #2 or so...
15:35:55 <jix> i talked alot with its developer during writing my bot
15:36:08 <jix> (but i didn't had his code and he hadn't my code)
15:36:28 <jix> and he said he beats all publicated bots (was true)
15:36:35 <jix> but i wasn't able to do that
15:36:44 <jix> well i wasn't able to do that in my tests
15:37:04 <jix> so i thought his bot would beat mine
15:46:33 <nooga> hehe i'm working on own, natural language
15:56:30 <Uvanta> nooga: you mean auxlang or something?
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17:02:21 <jix> anyone here seen keymaker?
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18:13:38 <jix> where is keymaker?
18:14:18 <jix> i think i'll do some rhotor programming
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20:17:48 <SimonRC> Will someone tell him to check out #conlang?
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21:42:35 <Keymaker> jix: you had something to tell, sir?
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