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09:57:05 <ihope> <CTCP>ACTION tries to see the future
09:57:24 <ihope> You know, it's easy to booch CTCP with PuTTYtel.
09:58:31 <ihope> Anyway... come fourth and fourth, flames engulf the old sites.
09:58:57 <ihope> At third and third, terrible calamity.
09:59:20 <ihope> Second and second, the hog plays a game.
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14:09:18 <Sgeo> Hi all
14:09:30 <Sgeo> When was GregorR last seen?
14:10:21 <int-e> [19:09:45] <-- GregorR____ has quit (Remote closed the connection) (2:15 hours ago)
14:18:53 <lament> and then they never saw him again
14:20:59 <Sgeo> hkk?
14:21:01 <Sgeo> hmm?
14:21:08 <Sgeo> So what time was GregorR last on?
14:23:00 <int-e> just before he quit.
14:23:34 <int-e> as for when he last spoke, I don't know that. check the channel logs. URLs are in the topic.
14:23:59 <lament> he last spoke about 16 hours ago
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15:04:06 <SimonRC> hi
15:24:58 <wooby> hello
15:25:24 <SimonRC> rather quite ATM
15:26:36 <wooby> indeed
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16:10:01 * GregorR-L 's home computer is down :'(
16:10:04 <GregorR-L> Erm, not the computer.
16:10:06 <GregorR-L> The network.
16:11:16 * calamari predicts that Gregor is about to spend much more time at school now
16:12:01 <calamari> know of any Linux binary emulators (for when a binary is compield for a different cpu) ?
16:12:05 <SimonRC> GregorR-L: ouch
16:12:19 <SimonRC> calamari: what distro?
16:12:29 <calamari> SimonRC: I use Ubuntu
16:12:39 <GregorR-L> calamari: qemu
16:13:09 <calamari> seems liek I remember seeing an emu that translated the prog, but I can't remember its name
16:13:20 <calamari> app is compiled for amd64
16:13:32 <GregorR-L> Erm, it actually compiled code for one arch into code for another?
16:13:38 <GregorR-L> I'd just use qemu ... 
16:13:49 <calamari> ahh foound it.. bintrans
16:13:50 <GregorR-L> Or wait ... I don't think it supports x86-64 target usermode ...
16:14:08 <SimonRC> qemu basically JITs things
16:14:14 <GregorR-L> Yup
16:14:22 <calamari> and bintrans doesn't support 64 either.. okay :)
16:14:41 <SimonRC> I believe the traditional way to do it is recompiling/
16:14:45 <calamari> fun with ssh it is, then
16:14:59 <SimonRC> ?
16:14:59 <calamari> SimonRC: oh, of course.. no source tho
16:15:23 <SimonRC> Urk!  A Linux app *without* source?!?!
16:15:29 * GregorR-L sobs
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16:15:43 <SimonRC> what strange contraption is this?
16:15:45 <calamari> yeah, its the reference receiver for a networking course app
16:15:58 <SimonRC> "reference receiver"?
16:16:03 <calamari> so I need to make my sender work with it
16:16:09 <GNUregorR> Oh, I guess it sorta-kinda makes sense if it's a reference implementation you're supposed to mimick ...
16:16:13 <calamari> and then write a receiver as well
16:16:14 <GNUregorR> *mimc
16:16:16 <GNUregorR> *mimic
16:16:18 <GNUregorR> G'damn
16:16:18 <calamari> yep
16:16:34 <calamari> heh, he didn't strip the binary
16:16:51 <GNUregorR> If he compiled with -g, you win ^^
16:17:32 <calamari> how can I tell. gdb?
16:17:50 * GNUregorR tries to recall ... I think objdump can give it to you somehow ...
16:17:52 <calamari> ahh yep
16:18:00 <calamari> This GDB was configured as "x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu"...(no debugging symbols found)
16:18:12 <calamari> so that keeps me honest :)
16:18:15 <GNUregorR> :-P
16:20:46 <SimonRC> strace?
16:25:22 <Sgeo> Hi GNUregorR 
16:25:41 <wooby> i am amazed by c2bf
16:25:48 <Sgeo> c2bf?
16:26:15 <Sgeo> I just learned about bfc yesterday, now there's something better?
16:26:22 <wooby> project of GNUregorR upon which i recently stumbled
16:26:43 * Sgeo worships GNUregorR even more
16:26:58 <wooby> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/brainfuck/c2bf/
16:27:13 <SimonRC> Sgeo: yep, c2bf translates C into brainfuck!
16:28:35 <Sgeo> Do I have to give up usage of bfc now?
16:30:08 <SimonRC> Whyever do you think that?
16:30:38 <Sgeo> bfc would be made useless?
16:30:58 <SimonRC> erm, no
16:31:12 <Sgeo> hm?
16:31:12 <SimonRC> wait, what is bfc?
16:32:42 <Sgeo> A low-lever C-like language for making BF programs
16:33:13 <Sgeo> http://www.clifford.at/bfcpu/bfcomp.html
16:33:44 * SimonRC hadn't seen that before.
16:34:00 <SimonRC> Bfcomp is more efficient, I suspect.
17:05:27 <GNUregorR> Um
17:05:36 <GNUregorR> Probably ^^
17:05:39 <GNUregorR> But it's not C ;)
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17:14:10 <GregorR-L> Hm, looks like bfc is far lower-level than C, just has a C-like syntax.
17:16:56 <GregorR-L> Definitely more efficient though.
17:24:30 * Sgeo looked at the code, and it represents numbers in the BF code with a string of +'s
17:25:07 <Sgeo> As opposed to, say, the sort of thing at http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_constants
17:25:48 <Sgeo> What does c2bf do?
17:27:04 <GregorR-L> ATM, just +'s.
17:27:14 <GregorR-L> But if you'd like to put the proper implementation in there, feel free ^^
17:27:21 <GregorR-L> It's in cc/genbf/primary_expr.c
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17:38:19 <GregorR-L> I'm off, I'll log in again in about 2hrs
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19:52:59 <Sgeo> re GregorR-L 
19:53:05 <GregorR-L> 'lo
20:00:13 <GregorR-L> A truly fascinating conversation ;)
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