< 1142642174 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-33.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1142642688 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1142643784 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142643794 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how do we stop the recent spam-wave? < 1142643813 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Temporarily block unregistered dudes from editing? < 1142643932 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prevent external links from having the text "..."? < 1142643991 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for the other type of spam, prevent page lengths from being cut in half? < 1142647817 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-142-203.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142648809 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1142648948 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-33.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1142649033 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1142649215 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1142649242 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-33.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1142650526 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1142651273 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1142652972 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-152.104.221.203.acc51-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1142654853 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1142656759 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142657342 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1142657367 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142657555 0 :AI_coder!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1142664311 0 :SachaQiang!n=evilandf@69-162-145-110.chvlva.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142664320 0 :SachaQiang!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1142667492 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1142668799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1142668800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1142669914 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1142669994 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1142674800 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1142674849 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the spam wave is rather annoying < 1142674868 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1142674879 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1142675004 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1142675012 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1142675062 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there as many unregistered contributors as to leave the unregistered option open? < 1142675142 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea, but i'd guess there are less unregistered ones < 1142675144 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I've made sense there < 1142675155 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) < 1142675207 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trusting in good faith is broken by the spammers < 1142675215 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1142675237 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my opinion it doesn't matter what unregistered contributors think because it will be for the wiki's best < 1142675245 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing prevents unregistered users from registering < 1142675252 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it shouldn't be big deal < 1142675275 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1142675309 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, my suggestion initially was to not allow anonymous contributions < 1142675322 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but isn't that the same thing? < 1142675340 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there any other way to contribute non-anonymously than by registering? < 1142675342 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, just a bit delayed :) < 1142675345 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1142675416 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's kind of a "captcha" plugin or extension or whatever for MediaWiki < 1142675435 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1142675479 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even so, I've read somewhere how spammers are fighting captchas... < 1142675492 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know if that's an extended practice yet < 1142675531 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, registering only slows them down < 1142675549 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can always register and such, but thankfully not that often < 1142675560 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they offer free pr0n if the user enters the captcha's text; the user's entry is then used for spamming < 1142675590 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1142675628 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting for an email confirmation is unacceptable for spammers, indeed < 1142681276 0 :jix!i=jix@L605f.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1142682508 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1142682586 0 :jix!i=jix@L605f.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1142682839 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1142684056 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exit time.. < 1142684058 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1142684444 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-220.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1142686612 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1142687282 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1142690352 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142692752 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :rubby < 1142693022 0 :rubby!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :nooga < 1142694302 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :whosrubby < 1142694314 0 :whosrubby!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1142699745 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1142699803 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1142699960 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1142703462 0 :_vlad!i=_vlad@62.113.34.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142703539 0 :_vlad!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1142705379 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1142705411 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142705470 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=== EgoBot There was no such nickname < 1142705476 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- EgoBot End of WHOWAS < 1142706107 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1142706144 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142706484 0 :thedcm!n=dcm@adsl-70-253-168-73.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142706983 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-142-203.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142708281 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very suddenly, I feel the NEED to create an operating system. < 1142708316 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads Bochs and dives into the documentation things, then gets bored and starts wasting time again < 1142708316 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eso? < 1142708329 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eew.. bochs? no.. qemu! < 1142708373 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads Qemu and dives into the documentation things, then gets bored and puts his operating system in EagleBot instead < 1142708407 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes that EagleBot hasn't been written yet, laughs, and begins reading the Haskell API documentation < 1142708415 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still waiting on that esoteric operating system < 1142708501 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :best I could do was bos in 512 bytes < 1142708537 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A 512-byte operating system? < 1142708539 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wonder how much of an os could be provided in 512 bytes (apps wouldn't access anything directly, just through the os) < 1142708562 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accept input, store it in a file. Run the file. < 1142708593 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The line above is an all-purpose operating system written in pseudocode. /me bows < 1142708597 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, so files and disk i/o? < 1142708613 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might put you over the 512-byte limit :) < 1142708621 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, maybe not. < 1142708623 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't qemu the one with the strange 'system is (L)GPL'd but an "accelerator module" is proprietary' license? < 1142708638 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How big's the smallest BF interpreter we have? < 1142708645 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there is a gpl accelerator and a freeware accel < 1142708664 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, this might be shorter: RUN INPUT. < 1142708666 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I wrote one that is pretty small < 1142708681 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a relatively small one (in C) too. < 1142708718 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently four lines, with lengths 67, 67, 66 and 65. < 1142708737 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main(j,a,n,t)int*a;{unsigned short p=-1;char*r=calloc(n=p+1,6),*i=r < 1142708737 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+n,**k=i+n;for(read(open(*++a,t=0),i,p);n=*i-43,t<0?n-48?n-50||++t: < 1142708737 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--t:n?n-2?n-19?n-17?n-3?n-48?n-50?n-1||read(0,r+p,1):p[r]?i=k[j]:j < 1142708737 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--:p[r]?k[++j]=i:t--:putchar(p[r]):p--:p++:p[r]--:p[r]++,*i++;);} < 1142708753 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this one is 98 bytes, I thought I had it smaller tho < 1142708760 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :98 bytes... < 1142708773 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :98 bytes is quite small already. < 1142708804 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks < 1142708832 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf's goal was the smallest tc compiler.. wonder if another lang would be better suited to be even smaller < 1142708846 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, oisc < 1142708853 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your 69-byte one a compiler or an interpreter? < 1142708864 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1142708882 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't remember a 69 byte one < 1142708886 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, s/69/98/; my brain is broken. < 1142708903 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[,>+] < 1142708911 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: interpreter.. compiler is 123 < 1142708941 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the operating system, but it doesn't work with every interpreter. < 1142708988 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: so you're basing your os on windows then? < 1142709000 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1142709021 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: uses all available memory and crashes the computer < 1142709055 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said it didn't work with every interpreter. < 1142709061 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1142709305 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh NO, a PDF! < 1142709327 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to kill those guys at Adobe. Who's with me? < 1142709414 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you like better, postscript? < 1142709465 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it can be read by a non-Adobe product, it's fine with me. < 1142709488 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: x/gpdf seem to have no trouble with pdf < 1142710022 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g/kpdf actually occasionally seem to _have_ trouble with pdf. xpdf more rarely. < 1142710036 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And they all have problems with encrypted pdf's or such.) < 1142710296 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DANG, Hunter looks fun. < 1142710330 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: never used an encrypted pdf .. hehe < 1142710413 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" <- an encrypted PDF < 1142710433 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you can see, it was probably made using lossy encryption :-P < 1142711583 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've reached a new level of geekiness.. my desktop image is from wikipedia < 1142711612 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which image? < 1142711647 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the Saguaro National Monument, from the Tucson page < 1142711664 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I used GIMP to remove a street sign < 1142711716 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also darkened it a bit so that I'd have more contrast with my dark blue icons < 1142711752 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err.. that doesn't make much sense.. but it seems to work visually :) < 1142716009 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, food. < 1142716410 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOOD? < 1142716418 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yum, yum yum yum yum... yum! < 1142720675 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now, I can think of two exceptions to the "c" pronunciation thing: Caesar and ASCII. < 1142721759 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1142721847 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: indeed < 1142725226 0 :thedcm!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1142725305 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)