< 1143850118 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1143850418 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-140-177.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143853180 0 :heatsink!n=heatsink@ppp-70-225-183-135.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143856420 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1143857433 0 :heatsink!n=heatsink@ppp-70-225-188-116.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143857954 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1143861408 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1143861567 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1143862103 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1143862410 0 :heatsink!n=heatsink@ppp-70-225-188-116.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143865229 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1143866191 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@201.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143869357 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1143873210 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1143873213 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1143873213 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1143873214 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1143873267 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-176-64.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143873267 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80.244.80.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1143873267 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1143873267 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1143878399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1143881119 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1143881119 0 :jix!i=jix@L6224.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1143907394 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1143907800 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@61.247.145.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1143908345 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-33.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1143912810 0 :Flaie!n=Flaie@arl57-2-82-241-96-212.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143913190 0 :Aardwolf!n=lode@dD576510A.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1143916404 0 :Flaie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :":)" < 1143918088 0 :heatsink!n=heatsink@tongue.crhc.uiuc.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1143918197 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143918219 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF golf, anyone? < 1143919885 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1143919889 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION  < 1143919931 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: ping < 1143919936 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong. < 1143920074 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: has anyone started a golf or do you want to start one or are you asking for one? < 1143920091 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to start one. < 1143920103 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I just plop it on the message board? < 1143920104 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: cool! < 1143920109 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: on which? < 1143920120 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The non-broken one. :-) < 1143920126 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The anonymous one, that is. < 1143920128 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sf or the esolangs.org one? < 1143920144 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1143920153 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you that sounds good < 1143920308 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-you < 1143920600 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: do you highlight me if you are done writing it down? < 1143920609 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Hmm? < 1143921299 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-228-52-216.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143921305 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin calamari < 1143921310 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, the BF golf thing has started. < 1143921318 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: cool < 1143921332 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi jix < 1143921406 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: ok i think this time we have to write down a proof that the program does what it should < 1143921519 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: what is the bf golf < 1143921528 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: check the msg board < 1143921532 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, I still need to send out the prize < 1143921554 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I will test the program, I just dont have the time to devote to it < 1143921567 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone thinks it works, so it probably does < 1143921826 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, Javascript! alert(alert(5)) < 1143921848 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More fun: alert(5+alert(3)) < 1143922132 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1143922173 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@28.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143922177 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-228-52-216.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143923486 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: do you already have a solution to the golf? < 1143923510 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++++++++++++++ (etc. etc.) +++++++. < 1143923515 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1143923528 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that legal? < 1143923540 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, apart from not knowing the MD5 hash, yes. < 1143923555 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can MD5 hash it, then it's perfectly legal. < 1143923567 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok add the knowledge of the md5 to the rules.. (or is it already there?) < 1143923575 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's there? < 1143923579 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/?/./ < 1143923592 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right... < 1143923605 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just post the MD5 hash of your program here along with the length of it." < 1143923638 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stopped reading the rules after nor may it accept input ;) < 1143923805 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... were you going to feed Graham's number in manually? :-) < 1143923814 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1143923830 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stopped reading _after_ < 1143923846 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in that moment i got an idea how to solve the problem < 1143923910 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1143923947 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks < 1143924081 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1143924091 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should run them ;) < 1143924108 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd take a while. < 1143924128 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long 2^^^2 takes < 1143924171 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^^^2 = 2^^2^^2 = 2^^(2^2^2) = 2^^(2^4) = 2^^16 = 2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2 < 1143924180 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say it takes a while. < 1143924234 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't be able to store that (ever) < 1143924260 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be more than the number of particles in the universe < 1143924300 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does everybody use the number of particles in the universe as the classic "pretty big number"? < 1143924333 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: because you can't build a ram cell that has more particles < 1143924343 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1143924356 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why not, say, 3? That'd work about as good. < 1143924439 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wait you could store informations in the distance of two particles.. let's assume it can be any real number between 0 and 1 one should be able to store infinite informations there < 1143924444 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-s < 1143924760 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is a bf variant that outputs a cell value as decimal ? < 1143924769 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... < 1143924775 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It outputs numbers. < 1143924786 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not representations of numbers. < 1143924808 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't output a number, only a representation of one... < 1143924812 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You're talking about the BF golf, right?) < 1143924826 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: you can output a number < 1143924832 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if I did +++. what does it output < 1143924839 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number 3. < 1143924852 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what I said above! < 1143924852 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the representation 3 of the number 3 only the number 3 < 1143924861 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bingo. < 1143924862 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it outputs the number in decimal < 1143924865 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: no < 1143924882 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hex? < 1143924884 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: no < 1143924888 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no representation < 1143924890 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number 3 is not the numeral 3 nor the literal 3 nor the string 3... < 1143924908 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible < 1143924921 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I never said I was going to run the BF programs. < 1143924930 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1143924942 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: it's maybe impossible to create such an interpreter but even if one could the program would never complete in the lifetime of the sun < 1143926001 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. ^ is exponentiation, ^^ is tetration, ^^^ is pentation. < 1143926013 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3^^^3 = 3^^3^^3 = 3^^(3^3^3)... < 1143926050 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3^^(3^3^3) = 3^^(3^27) < 1143926072 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3^^(3^27) = 3^^7625597484987 < 1143926092 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3^^7625597484987 is big. < 1143926161 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need 3^^^3 < 1143926200 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1143926214 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3^^3 = 3^3^3 = 3^27 = 7625597484987 < 1143926677 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote my program in a highlevel language that should be easy to transform into brainfuck and added a "proof" in the comments < 1143927729 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1143928232 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1143928691 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 3.1415^^3.1415? < 1143928892 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi^^pi? < 1143928899 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows? :-P < 1143928991 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder when they'll finally define tetration for reals :) < 1143931306 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1143931763 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1143932398 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@28.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143934389 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1143938871 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1143939123 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-159.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1143939359 0 :Arrogant_!i=Scott@56.orlando-04-05rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1143940031 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1143940035 0 :Arrogant_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Arrogant < 1143940265 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1143941127 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1143941151 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1143941254 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1143943430 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"¡Hasta manzana!" < 1143952825 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1143952858 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1143956183 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tetration for reals? it is well defined < 1143956273 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1143956276 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was mistaken < 1143956287 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :confused < 1143956303 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1143956363 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it exists! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetration#Extension_to_real_numbers < 1143957056 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is pi^^pi then? :) < 1143957123 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it exists < 1143957125 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1143957267 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi^^pi = pi^pi^pi ? < 1143957335 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so approx 1.34 * 10^18 < 1143957342 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1143957346 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1143961762 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn you people. < 1143961772 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing a language for a MUD engine that I'm totally not working on *cough* < 1143961783 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's coming out more awful than some esoteric languages. < 1143961800 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach i in $obj < 1143961800 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : set ["p_".$i."_ok"] to true < 1143961800 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreend < 1143961800 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach i in "above at behind below from in inside into on onto to under upon" < 1143961800 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if [$p_($i) !?= "" & !$p_($i)_ok] < 1143961800 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : echo ["How do you do that ".$i." something?"] to $~ < 1143961802 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : return < 1143961804 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ifend < 1143961806 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreend < 1143964799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1143964800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1143968838 0 :jix!i=jix@L6382.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1143970161 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-240.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1143971630 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1143975792 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey nooga, want to give your opinion on a bit of nasty syntax of mine? < 1143975851 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY F*** IT'S 3AM >_< < 1143975856 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn DST. < 1143975902 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1143975910 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inline:_pa < 1143975910 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo ["\W" , %s_name , "\N\n" , %s_desc , "\n"] to $user < 1143975910 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [%b_nolist] < 1143975910 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : return < 1143975910 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifend < 1143975910 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach i in %l_beings < 1143975912 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : echo ["\R" , $($i).s_name , " is here.\N"] to $user < 1143975914 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreend < 1143975916 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach i in %l_objs < 1143975918 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : echo ["\BThere is a " , @($i).s_name , " here.\N"] to $user < 1143975920 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreend < 1143975922 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, this is not supposed to be esoteric :( < 1143976020 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gulp < 1143976026 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many sigils < 1143976045 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigils? < 1143976048 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks awfull < 1143976055 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$, % and @ < 1143976071 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ = beings, % = rooms, @ = objects :P < 1143976138 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: what's that? < 1143976170 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About eight months ago I wrote a large chunk of a MUD engine. Recently I trudged it up and continued working on it. < 1143976177 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an example of its language. < 1143976185 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks awfull < 1143976189 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1143976204 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What looks PARTICULARLY awful :P < 1143976241 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreend why foreend instead of just end... the interpreter should KNOW it's in a for loop < 1143976260 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was quite possibly the most minor thing you could have pointed out XD < 1143976303 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't like the [] they are hard to type on a de keyboard < 1143976327 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where are they? < 1143976333 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo [... < 1143976339 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1143976344 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a DE keyboard you doof :P < 1143976349 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ^^ < 1143976356 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the OS < 1143976368 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on windows they are on alt-gr 8 and 9 < 1143976378 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on mac os they are on alt 5 and 6 < 1143976385 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow. < 1143976393 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1143976398 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've keys just for them over here :P < 1143976400 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im poland we use us keyboards < 1143976403 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know... < 1143976405 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're the best < 1143976412 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::] < 1143976415 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[][][][ < 1143976419 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::[ < 1143976433 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, thank you jix for pointing out the two least important problems with my code XD < 1143976441 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, GregorR, it resembles bash < 1143976448 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: couldn't you use öä instead of [] we have keys for them < 1143976455 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash combined with infant-basic < 1143976462 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: ö is alt-o-" for me XP < 1143976469 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: replace foreend with hcaerof < 1143976478 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1143976490 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jus end would be nice < 1143976497 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or indentation < 1143976504 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with just end. < 1143976509 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, no indentation < 1143976511 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY! < 1143976513 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like when languages make indentation significant. < 1143976515 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will look pythony < 1143976516 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F***ing python. < 1143976523 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my yay was about end not indention) < 1143976525 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, g2g < 1143976525 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1143976529 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1143976532 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is quite seriosly the ONLY --- < 1143976533 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1143976538 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idention is stupid < 1143976542 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... thing I dislike about python >_> < 1143976559 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to put self on the argument list right? < 1143976560 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm going to sleep. Tomorrow I'll make them all 'end' < 1143976567 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrhr < 1143981046 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1143981072 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-240.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1143986928 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1143986955 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-240.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1143989227 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-236.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1143989363 0 :CXIII!n=Sanity@dialup-148.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1143990371 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1143990579 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144002184 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144006305 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-S < 1144009280 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@52.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144012746 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1144013055 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@35.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144013952 0 :Arrogant_!i=Scott@219.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144014486 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1144016404 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144016436 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144017635 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144017671 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144018622 0 :Arrogant_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144019885 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144021637 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-228-52-216.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144023996 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144024060 0 :CXIII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144028484 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-120.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144030716 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144036976 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144037011 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144038605 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144038791 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144040270 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144040272 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144042278 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1144045329 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144049925 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144049936 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144051199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144052069 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144052069 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144052093 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144053433 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1144063516 0 :jix!i=jix@L6337.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144076767 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144077944 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuu < 1144077948 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa < 1144084862 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody here? < 1144085035 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1144085064 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that's a lie < 1144085075 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you and me are here... < 1144085091 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1144085093 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1144085132 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1144085133 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm intensively thinking about massive eso language :D < 1144085157 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i sqy massive i think about very concentrated and cryptic syntax < 1144085188 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say* < 1144085273 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mix symbol syntax and text syntax < 1144085283 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and prefix postfix infix < 1144085300 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and case sensitive and case insensitive < 1144085320 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and base 10 base 16 and roman numerals < 1144085344 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1144085353 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and codeflow upwards and downwards < 1144085377 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like in a while loop the code is executed in reverse order than normal.. each nesting level reverses code flow...) < 1144085377 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought about IDs and keywords which allow rhymes < 1144085415 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean: 'if' is same as 'thief' or 'beef' and 'cute' == 'flute' etc. < 1144085424 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i know how to implement it < 1144085436 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if is pronounced short thief long < 1144085439 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't rhyme < 1144085462 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesli kresli :D < 1144085508 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well... i think they rhyme < 1144086998 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stainworks.com/images/ja2.jpg look at him!? < 1144087004 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he must be a nerd :> < 1144087412 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm why? < 1144087427 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah nothing < 1144087430 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's me -.- < 1144087440 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1144087466 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have long hair? < 1144087479 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmh < 1144087482 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1144087487 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool me too! < 1144087494 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and GregorR too) < 1144087502 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow :D < 1144087678 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darkish l33t guys hihieheh < 1144087701 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.stainworks.com/images/myjpg.jpg < 1144087708 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tahts: me, my sis, my brother < 1144089685 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2g, bye < 1144089697 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144093867 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144096301 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144099539 0 :fuse!n=mpersano@medusa.insite.com.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1144099546 0 :fuse!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1144102587 0 :fuse!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" < 1144103274 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144104820 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1144105453 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mode ##everything +b *!*@* by ihope < 1144105573 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if ChanServ is still in there < 1144105598 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm still banned, so he/she probably is. < 1144107402 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144108292 0 :jix!i=jix@L6337.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144108668 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144114803 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144119376 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144119590 0 :vadim!n=vadim@76.Red-80-32-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144120281 0 :vadim!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144120980 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144124048 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1144126461 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@24.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144128561 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144131102 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-228-52-216.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144133295 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144133346 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1144133796 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1144133895 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1144133968 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.:/ $(a:Q):Q .:\ < 1144137278 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144137599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144137600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144138802 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144139510 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-228-52-216.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144139970 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144146174 0 :jix!i=jix@L60cb.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144149710 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144149795 0 :jix!i=jix@L60cb.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144152237 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144152982 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-194.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144167992 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144173108 0 :jix!i=jix@L60cb.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144181470 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144182113 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144183838 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144185848 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone read the news from lilo? < 1144185891 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tor has been 84NX0r13zer3d! < 1144185924 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("ban-x-orise-er-ed") < 1144185976 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION re-reads < 1144186940 0 :jix__!i=jix@L60cb.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144186971 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix < 1144190672 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@host-201-141.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1144193217 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144193730 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144194735 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144195475 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144195482 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR is in development < 1144195522 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never would have guessed... < 1144195550 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what happens when you take things out of context. "A FCKeditor plugin by GregorR is in development." < 1144195614 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1144195951 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144196378 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144196415 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144197827 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. < 1144198525 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't. < 1144198588 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quick brown fox doesn't jump over the lazy dog. < 1144198620 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see! < 1144199052 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C. < 1144199069 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quiCk brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. < 1144202477 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-60.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144203838 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-60.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144204158 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144204828 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-60.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144205146 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144206424 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144206508 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-60.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144207225 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144210213 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144210559 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144212294 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144213850 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144214248 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144214277 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-60.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144214546 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-13.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144216032 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144220514 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144221956 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's gregor? < 1144222434 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144222738 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hi :D < 1144222744 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[08:25] where's gregor? < 1144222744 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[08:33] * GregorR has joined #esoteric < 1144222775 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1144222782 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My network is being crappy. < 1144222848 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the photo of the ultimate nerd? < 1144223563 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR < 1144223582 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, no. < 1144223591 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1144223596 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll show you < 1144223608 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stainworks.com/images/ja2.jpg < 1144223999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144224000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144224351 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1144224364 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, do you thik he might be l33t? GregorR? < 1144224375 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dot dot dot. < 1144224392 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoping that it's a picture of you or something, I'll say "He looks like a total dork." < 1144224452 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN < 1144224478 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did u know? < 1144224525 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you're just like that. < 1144224555 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghhh < 1144224559 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dork? < 1144224574 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup 8-D < 1144224578 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghhh < 1144224585 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've got long hair < 1144224590 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool kids wear hats. < 1144224621 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well um < 1144224632 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i'll go and byu red hat hehed < 1144224641 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got to go, bye < 1144224645 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144225728 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144226421 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: nice picture < 1144231327 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144237343 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144238027 0 :jix!i=jix@L6368.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144246891 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144248081 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1144249656 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144249739 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"back soon" < 1144250198 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-176-64.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144251292 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi oi oi < 1144255273 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144257772 0 :jix!i=jix@L6368.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144257879 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-S < 1144257956 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-181.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144258093 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1144259756 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144259765 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1144262041 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1144262682 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144263710 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144263862 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144265693 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144265752 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haj maj frriendz from foregin kauntrees < 1144274388 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144274388 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1144278764 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144279190 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-228-52-216.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144283281 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144292131 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-73.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144293169 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144296383 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144297954 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@192.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144298359 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144300864 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144303072 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144303788 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144304392 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144304516 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144305659 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144305692 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144307348 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144307618 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooga < 1144307667 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR < 1144307740 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: what's with your c2bf? < 1144307799 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My wheel o' attention hasn't turned back to it yet. < 1144307821 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DirectNet, OBLISK, C2BF, IDIA, random projects, too many things to work on X-P < 1144307883 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1144308275 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That list seems awfully sparse 8-X < 1144308278 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What am I missing ... < 1144308332 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I started a text file to keep track of my projects < 1144308345 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use nagging to keep track. < 1144308351 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If nobody nags me about it, it's probably not very important. < 1144308371 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about personal interest projects < 1144308376 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you nag yourself? < 1144308385 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1144308393 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how OBLISK stays alive XD < 1144308397 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I prefer external nagging. < 1144308450 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. maybe a NagBot < 1144308482 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144308610 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"haha cherade you are..." < 1144308638 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :charade* ;p < 1144308741 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm hm < 1144308994 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are u coding right now? ;p < 1144309020 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I ever not? < 1144309025 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I code in my sleep. < 1144309181 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOK < 1144309182 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.osmosian.com/ < 1144309214 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :english language compiler hahaha, looks awfullllll < 1144309328 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's propetiary < 1144309363 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally. < 1144309481 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great < 1144309513 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is some kind of a joke < 1144309843 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1144309849 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghhh < 1144309913 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The title suggests that it is. < 1144309919 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Osmosian Order of Plain English Programmers" < 1144309922 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, right. < 1144309959 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1144309990 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of ORK ... < 1144310112 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c2bf will be cool when finished < 1144310197 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should kick your "wheel o' attention" < 1144310214 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or try to develop c2bf by himself < 1144310351 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, did you ever move c2bf off to its own project page? < 1144310365 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They rejected the project :( < 1144310371 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1144310379 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1144310380 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who? < 1144310381 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1144310389 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C2BF < 1144310393 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sourceforge < 1144310394 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sourceforge < 1144310399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144310400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144310520 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's on sourceforge < 1144310618 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, g2g, bye < 1144310620 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144313421 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144313635 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144313645 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144326481 0 :jix!i=jix@L6230.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144327968 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144340852 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144343480 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-64.105.221.203.acc51-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144343506 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mh < 1144343509 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi? < 1144343848 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1144343890 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi jiz < 1144343893 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix* < 1144343920 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin noogc < 1144343922 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga* < 1144343923 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1144344109 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe < 1144344120 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :u r cruel < 1144344144 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you finished rhotor interpreter in C? < 1144344167 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1144344171 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never started one < 1144344189 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1144344205 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have problem with implementing lambda lifter < 1144344553 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :solve them ;) < 1144344563 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1144344604 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... what are you coding atm jix? < 1144344631 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm writing a ... < 1144344633 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(word missing) < 1144344661 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a report of something that isn't in my dictionary for school < 1144344730 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using latex < 1144344737 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1144344756 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX the typesetting system < 1144344853 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i know < 1144344856 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:30] a report of something that isn't in my dictionary for school < 1144344865 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the word < 1144344870 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't in my dictionary < 1144344906 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i work in a company for 2 weeks < 1144344917 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats cool.. the bad thing is i have to write an report about it < 1144345057 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144345155 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1144345160 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a positive integer A such that A = (B^2 - C^2) for positive integers B and C. Given A, find possible B and C. < 1144345164 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you work for a company? < 1144345186 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope so? < 1144345187 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that is always possible. < 1144345193 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so :> < 1144345238 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: no < 1144345242 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to school < 1144345265 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in grade 9 or 10 we work in a company for 2 weeks < 1144345296 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sp3tt: if A = (B^2 - C^2), it is possible to find B and C... < 1144345304 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all A? < 1144345319 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible for all odd A, but for all even? < 1144345322 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say for all A. < 1144345333 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not possible for even A as far as I know. < 1144345340 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: omfg, i wish i had the same here < 1144345350 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for all even A, but possibly for some. < 1144345363 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sum(0..n,2n+1)=n^2. < 1144345391 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1+3=4, 1+3+5=9,1+3+5+7=16 and so on.... < 1144345421 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it always possible to find two perfect squares with difference 2k+1, k \in N. < 1144345455 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I'm looking for an efficient algorithm to find B and C. < 1144345484 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for odd A that would be trivial. < 1144345498 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it done, then? < 1144345525 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-1, A-2. For example, 3 = 2^2 - 1^2. < 1144345541 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a minute... < 1144345549 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks < 1144345589 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. B - C cannot be 1. < 1144345632 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a-1)^2-(a-2)^2=a^2-2a+1-(a^2-4a+1)=2a... o.O < 1144345655 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 = 3^2 - 2^2... < 1144345667 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 = 3^2 - 2^2. < 1144345672 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must be ignoring something. < 1144345672 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: and C - B? < 1144345672 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144345677 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye, correct. Typo. < 1144345682 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: must not be -1 :-) < 1144345708 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: well if C - B is 1 it's trivial < 1144345739 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If C - B were positive, then B - C would be negative... < 1144345763 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. C - B must be negative, just as B + C must be positive. < 1144345768 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/+/-/ < 1144345795 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka B > C. < 1144345811 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1144345823 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :B > C+1, also. < 1144345843 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>=* < 1144345857 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :B >= C+2 < 1144345989 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assume that A, B and C are positive integers, that A = (B^2 - C^2), and that B - C > 1. Given A, find B and C. < 1144346368 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you find an efficient solution to that, let me know so I can tell you how to collect the $605,000. < 1144346418 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Efficient" meaning "feasibly applicable to A with hundreds of decimal digits". < 1144346957 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can assume that A is representable using B^2-C^2 ? or do i have to test it < 1144348397 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, A will always be representable by (B^2 - C^2). < 1144348429 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, it turns out that the whole reason for inventing this problem is futile... < 1144348523 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A = (B^2 - C^2) = (B - C)(B + C) = A. I was trying to devise an efficient way to factor A. < 1144348549 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, finding B and C seems to itself involve factoring A. < 1144348612 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rsa challenge? < 1144348643 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bingo, < 1144348682 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah and the sum of the open challenges is 605.000 < 1144348719 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you're able to fake rsa signatures you'd be able to get a lot more money... < 1144348756 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean? < 1144349000 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144349963 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I think an Unlambda interpreter would be MUCH easier to write in continuation passing style. < 1144349974 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, that is, easier. < 1144351015 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... data Unlambda = Unlambda (Unlambda -> Cont String Unlambda) < 1144351104 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, defining .x with that is giving me a headache already. < 1144351157 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try again. < 1144351176 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Unlambda = Unlambda (Unlambda -> (Unlambda -> String) -> String) < 1144351221 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :output x = Unlambda \y z -> x : z y < 1144351335 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great... < 1144351349 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :output x = Unlambda (\y -> Const (\z -> x : z y)) < 1144351354 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Const/Cont/ < 1144351703 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, now the other ones... < 1144351737 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try id using the second definition. < 1144351764 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :id = Unlambda (\x y -> y x) -- easy < 1144351784 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the first: id = Unlambda (\x -> Cont (\y -> y x)) < 1144352008 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: do not terminate Acrobat while Firefox has a PDF tab open. < 1144352207 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol... been mailing my shell provider for weeks to cancel the old account, no response. Create a 1 GB file in my account (my limit), immediate response.. cancelled today < 1144352282 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1144352322 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, it seems I did that one definition wrong... < 1144352338 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :output x = Unlambda (\y -> Cont (\z -> z y ++ [x])) < 1144352427 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1144352600 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can find a number as the difference of two positive squares for all positive integers except powers of two < 1144352610 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, waitamo < 1144352619 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wa thinking of triangular numbers < 1144352683 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, 4 is somewhat triangular depnding on how it's written ;) < 1144352868 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 is a tetrahedral number. < 1144352891 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, indeed, it's a right triangular number... < 1144352965 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course some 4's have the open top, so those aren't triangular 4's :) < 1144353039 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1144353075 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, let's see here... < 1144353079 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh. < 1144353144 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you meant "Ook." < 1144353163 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I think that damn stupid Osmosian thing would fail even if it wasn't a pile of bullshit, as it is not very open. < 1144353175 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No on-line specs, for example. < 1144353188 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook. Ook! Ook? Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook? < 1144353205 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1144353218 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feh < 1144353227 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot commands don't work without EgoBot. < 1144353240 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to remember his Ook commands. < 1144353252 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I knew that, but I though egobot might be here < 1144353264 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[-]+[]error < 1144353300 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right! < 1144353327 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since NOTICE got corrupted, what can we do so that bots won't talk to each other? < 1144353375 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have them check on anothers' names? < 1144353388 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, what's wrong with NOTICE? < 1144353405 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1144353419 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But some clients freak out when they recieve notices. < 1144353455 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: in that case, people should Get A Real Client. < 1144353467 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It troo. < 1144353483 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins to suspect that calamari in fact *can't* see notices. < 1144353500 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Received a CTCP VERSION from ihope < 1144353508 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it so far < 1144353513 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see CTCP, it seems... < 1144353516 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: okay: repeat after me: < 1144353521 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen any notices < 1144353538 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1144353544 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't paying attention, hahaha < 1144353547 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1144353554 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a b c < 1144353572 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: okay, yours works < 1144353596 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personal notices appear in my status window, but channel notices in my channel window :-S < 1144353600 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :running xchat 2.6.1 in case that helps with your remote exploit attempts < 1144353610 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1144353633 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I see the notices here in the channel window < 1144353657 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh ydo we care, again? < 1144353662 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1144353668 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION NOTICES himself < 1144353691 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel windows < 1144353692 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-s < 1144353693 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it seems to pop up in whatever tab I'm in at the time. < 1144353716 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses irssi. < 1144353758 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144353797 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144353803 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re GregorR < 1144353879 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... < 1144353920 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not talking about the tunes.org logs, are you? < 1144353945 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, why? and besides I'm kidding around < 1144354023 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tunes.org logs notices... < 1144354028 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmeme seems to notice, tunes does < 1144354029 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n't < 1144354097 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, SimonRC: you're saying that bots that talk should always have "bot" in their names, and should never reply to things said by those bots? < 1144354200 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, of course, bot, Bot, bOt, BOt, boT, BoT, bOT or BOT... < 1144354250 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :calaBot < 1144354288 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihopeBot < 1144354302 0 :ihopeBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, now I can't reply to anything calaBot says. < 1144354353 0 :ihopeBot!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1144354365 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that was scary. < 1144354368 0 :calaBot!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :calamari < 1144354397 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just get the feeling you were taken over by a machine intelligence? < 1144354415 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1144354437 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having a longer nick than normal, though... it was just scary. < 1144354500 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you go shorter, than you turn into a pancake chain < 1144354526 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :than -> then < 1144354585 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pancake chain? < 1144354589 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean |||||? < 1144354741 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :i| < 1144354751 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have a shorter nick. < 1144354773 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I get it. IHOP. < 1144354797 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking pancakes chained together... into a chain... < 1144354890 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1144354912 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :^ < 1144354925 0 :^!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :_ < 1144354946 0 :_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :calamari < 1144355037 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1144355169 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those nicks are taken already... < 1144355173 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1144355180 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I changed so quickly < 1144355318 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. It seems nicks can only start with [, ], { and }. < 1144355373 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that in proportional fonts, < and > are each about as wide as this new nick... < 1144355377 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION registers it < 1144355449 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who uses IRC with a proportional font? < 1144355459 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not I < 1144355492 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I still use the old console fonts, so I'm a freak :( < 1144355939 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses 8pt MS mincho < 1144355942 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too baf < 1144355943 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too bad < 1144356815 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144357528 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144358742 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find A = B^2-C^2 for all A that has two odd prime factors < 1144358772 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or two even prime factors < 1144358882 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise...? < 1144358891 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1144358907 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A B and C are positive integers and some other condition < 1144358922 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :B > C + 1 < 1144358953 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no ... ignore me.. < 1144360689 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@host-202-51.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1144362828 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1144362990 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144363021 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144363116 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1144366789 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144367930 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144367938 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144368602 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1144369646 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144369676 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144369679 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144370848 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144370882 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144377443 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1144377485 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A = B^2 - C^2 for nonnegative integers B and C if and only if A mod 4 /= 1. < 1144377647 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's grab a number out of thin air, then... < 1144377676 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So our number is 18723. < 1144377745 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18723 / 3 = 6241. < 1144377745 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144377777 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144377814 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm lazy, I guess I'll use this heavy duty prime thingy. < 1144377894 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who would have guessed? 18723 = 3 * 79 * 79. < 1144378002 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 18723 = 79 * 237. < 1144378060 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The average of these is 158 and the distance from the average to each number is 79. < 1144378094 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore 18723 = (158 - 79)(158 + 79) = (158^2 - 79^2). < 1144379403 0 :int-e!n=noone@td9091b49.pool.terralink.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144379423 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think IDTIIASDA is a self-dependent acronym. < 1144379472 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1144379494 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice one < 1144379539 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I'd like the NICK command to have a message thing associated with it. < 1144379557 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like /nick ihope It's not easy being i|. < 1144380445 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144381617 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-9.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144382390 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Haskell's readsPrec is nice. Let's see here... < 1144382528 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readsPrec _ ('`':xs) = do {(func, interm) <- readsPrec 0 xs; (param, remains) <- readsPrec 0 interm; return (apply func param, remains)} < 1144382572 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readsPrec _ ('.':c:xs) = [(output c, xs)] < 1144382577 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etc. etc. < 1144383434 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"GHC, NHC, YHC... what's the world coming to?" < 1144387942 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144391379 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bye!" < 1144391612 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144396799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144396800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144397219 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144406443 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144408147 0 :jix!i=jix@L62c2.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144413779 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1144420927 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144427349 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks of a cunning plan to get free photocopying credits. < 1144427368 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Create poster with this hidden on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellation < 1144427396 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complain insanely when photocopying shop won't copy it for you. < 1144427414 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get given free photocopying credits as compesation. < 1144427419 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1144427420 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1144427422 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1144427424 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Profit! < 1144427980 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1144427996 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better yet < 1144428001 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sue the shop if they do manage to photocopy it < 1144428184 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1144428317 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could claim they're secretly counterfeiting money or something < 1144430198 0 :twobitsprite!n=isaac@cpe-024-211-175-154.nc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144430257 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know if the linuyux program "dc" is turing complete or not? It's only form of flow control that I see is the ability to execute macros dependant on the comparison of numbers.. < 1144430290 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux* < 1144430959 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can macros be recursive? < 1144431016 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, three infinite-precision integers are turing-complete, if you have +_*/% < 1144431054 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use them as a turing machine tape, as long as you can repeat operations < 1144432104 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: one if you have * / and % < 1144434178 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow... I didn't know that < 1144434241 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I think you can pull off recursive macros because macros exist on the stack, and dc has a duplicate operation, so when calling a macro you can dup it first, call it, and the macro can then dup-call itself... < 1144434294 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM write a y operator. < 1144434305 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM? < 1144434324 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can't seem to keep up with IRC lingo no matter how much time I spend on here... :P) < 1144434580 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats food < 1144434640 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll trying writing a bf compiler which targets dc... < 1144434675 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_slang < 1144434697 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 big numbers are a pair of stacks. < 1144434728 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop is: N->(N/256,N%256) < 1144434759 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push is: (N,x)->(256*N+x) < 1144434784 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each bignum is a stack, and two stacks make a turing machine tape. < 1144434788 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes < 1144442402 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144442656 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1144444801 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144455610 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144455705 0 :jix!i=jix@L62c2.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144459223 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144459851 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144463137 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144463146 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144465131 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144470324 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144470339 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144470484 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144470518 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144471386 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144473455 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144474663 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144479973 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144483199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144483200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144483991 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1144485668 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144491164 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144491217 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144493295 0 :jix!i=jix@L6198.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144500593 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1144505315 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-101.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144507108 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144507760 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiho' < 1144520659 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144520706 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144521384 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144522449 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144523093 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144528466 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1144528536 0 :jix!i=jix@L6198.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144528592 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1144530558 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144530766 0 :jix!i=jix@L6198.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144534078 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144534543 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144539993 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144540264 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've rediscovered that I suck at making MUD areas. < 1144540289 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had forgotten that ... and now, here I am, going "Why can't I think of anything ... oh yeah, that's right, because I suck." < 1144540365 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: because you know what you should instead be working on c2bf and its gnawing at you, distracting you from your current task < 1144540377 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1144540395 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then let's trade. I'll work on C2BF for a while, and you make me a MUD realm. < 1144540405 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the design for it, I need to implement it myself since I'm writing the engine X-P < 1144540415 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like homework < 1144540446 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be grading you on it, and it will total as 15% of your grade for the class. < 1144540452 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there is no curve on this assignment. < 1144540460 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closed book, no notes. < 1144540465 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of our options in the OO design class was a MUD < 1144540475 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we chose a battleship clone tho < 1144540488 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1144540494 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, I'm just writing a MUD engine for no reason XD < 1144540512 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use reflection.. < 1144540519 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah you don't have that in C++ ;) < 1144540569 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was messing around with PESOIX again yesterday < 1144540589 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1144540598 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it is implementable for use with a premade interpreter < 1144540615 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blocking issues are messing it all up < 1144540632 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's probably a difficult problem to solve ... < 1144540703 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I can do it if they flush the output tho < 1144540726 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it doesn't flush the output, it's not a very good implementation 8-X < 1144540727 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe a custom libc < 1144540746 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could load it with LD_PRELOAD < 1144540762 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And force all I/O to be unbuffered? < 1144540767 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1144540819 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would probably screw up something else like netcat tho < 1144540867 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of netcat.. how are you using it? netcat < blah > blah ? < 1144540909 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :netcat -e whatever < 1144540933 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean for capturing program i/o < 1144540947 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :netcat -e whatever < 1144540984 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-e, --exec=PROGRAM program to exec after connect < 1144540989 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1144541002 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so netcat is pulling this off then < 1144541033 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that means it should be possible < 1144541082 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably just does the right dup2's, I don't know whether it messes with the buffering ... < 1144541105 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I doubt severely that it does. < 1144541128 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it works good enough to wrap the interpreters and that's all I need < 1144541152 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads the source < 1144541266 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I don't wrap any interpreter in netcat ... < 1144541284 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what is "whatever" ? < 1144541295 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot itself < 1144541305 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is egobot handling program I/O ? < 1144541321 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pipes, dup2'd into stdin and stdout. < 1144541365 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads egobot < 1144541385 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1144541513 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh GPL.. so I can lift large sections of your code at will :) < 1144541535 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please < 1144541594 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : // set up our output < 1144541595 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : signal(14, sendOutput); < 1144541619 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144541626 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :signal 14 = alarm, it does an output every 1.5 (?) seconds and uses alarm() to manage that. < 1144541633 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not really the code you want. < 1144541637 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code you want is probably in proc.* < 1144541662 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I think I found one thing I want < 1144541664 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : // make stdin nonblocking < 1144541664 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (fcntl(0, F_SETFL, O_NONBLOCK) == -1) { perror("fcntl"); exit(1); } < 1144541818 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, you're doing that on the pipe too < 1144542190 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144542223 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dup2(2, 3); // what does this do ? < 1144542261 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1144542266 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I seriously do that ...? < 1144542269 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1144542290 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe thats why it is crashing? :) < 1144542295 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, I remember. < 1144542298 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's right. < 1144542305 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 is stderr, I copied it to 3 to preserve it. < 1144542314 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if something else was using 3 < 1144542316 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's still nae good though >_O < 1144542325 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm wondering why I thought that was wise <_< < 1144542385 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT, it's not even being used 8-X < 1144542391 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's just plain silly. < 1144542402 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, erm, ignore that ^^ < 1144542445 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I submit a patch? lol < 1144542513 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-127.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144543299 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: if (pipe(i) == -1) { perror("pipe"); exit(1); } is this line using some kind of c++ magic? < 1144543337 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, nm, I see it < 1144543489 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm < 1144543532 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :past that now.. :) < 1144543559 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144544165 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: where is the part of the program that you intercept a programs output and make it safe? < 1144544328 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, found it < 1144544379 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh.. you're buffering the output and just dealing with it in those 1.5sec intervals < 1144544570 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah. < 1144544612 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say that the interpreter wants input (,) ..how is that handled? < 1144544665 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it just block on the pipe? < 1144544706 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you put data into the pipe when it is given? < 1144544711 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION guesses: yes < 1144544726 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, why can't I do the same thing? < 1144544803 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, where is it putting the input data into the pipe? I don't see it < 1144544877 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it! < 1144544926 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I guess the difference here is that the user types a command that egobot receives, saying "here is input".. but unix doesn't do that < 1144544969 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could fork again and just wait on input < 1144545306 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odds of a concurrency problem are rapidly approaching 1 < 1144545361 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe I can use pthread < 1144545611 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no man pages? < 1144545641 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, finally < 1144545932 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144548681 0 :brk3nc0nstra1nt5!n=demonix@c-68-53-109-129.hsd1.ky.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144548683 0 :brk3nc0nstra1nt5!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1144548765 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144548792 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1144551080 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CXI < 1144553390 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144553421 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144553477 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144554383 0 :heatsink!n=heatsink@ppp-70-225-170-215.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144557595 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144557595 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144557595 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144557597 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144557597 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144557600 0 :twobitsprite!n=isaac@cpe-024-211-175-154.nc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144557600 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144557600 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-176-64.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144557600 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80.244.80.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144557600 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144558225 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144558451 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@103.orlando-04-05rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144559492 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144559649 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1144559902 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-162.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144559915 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144562692 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Connection reset by sleep" < 1144566145 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144569599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144569600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144569839 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144572430 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144577325 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144578637 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144578832 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144578843 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1144579707 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1144579762 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144579808 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144580061 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144580122 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144580364 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144580451 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144580663 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144580746 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144580964 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144580995 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144581263 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144581351 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144581563 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144581589 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144581864 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144581974 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144582164 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144582315 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144582465 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144584961 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry about my connection earlier. < 1144584962 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole Uni was dropping off the net. < 1144588892 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144588943 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144589010 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144589244 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144589914 0 :jix!i=jix@L635a.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144590784 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144591138 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to eat < 1144592835 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-59.105.221.203.acc51-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144594690 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you pronounce "quine"? < 1144596409 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.auralgasms.com/default.aspx?BandID=jodyq a person called Jody Quine pronounces her name so that it rhymes with "wine" < 1144596437 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's how I would've done it < 1144600867 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144602792 0 :tokigun!i=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1144603181 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144604789 0 :tokigun!i=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1144605128 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144609134 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1144613083 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144614786 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144615238 0 :GregorR__!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144615613 0 :GregorR__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144615679 0 :GregorR__!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144615714 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144616038 0 :GregorR___!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144616400 0 :GregorR___!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1144616656 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144617493 0 :GregorR__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144617594 0 :jix!i=jix@L635a.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144617707 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144624198 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144625040 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1144625046 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144626415 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144628884 0 :heatsink!n=heatsink@tongue.crhc.uiuc.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1144629340 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144629483 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144630364 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144631660 0 :SimonRC_!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144631660 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144631721 0 :SimonRC_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144631960 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144631985 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144632268 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144632574 0 :SimonRC_!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144632574 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144632612 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-82.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144632711 0 :SimonRC_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144632874 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144633020 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144633175 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144633678 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144633724 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144633827 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144634035 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144634062 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144634340 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144634646 0 :SimonRC_!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144634646 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1144634737 0 :SimonRC_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144634946 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144635407 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144635865 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144635924 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144635964 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144636091 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144636116 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-82.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144636523 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144636707 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144636824 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144637557 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144637617 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144637646 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1144637916 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144637917 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144638006 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144638217 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144639322 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144641703 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@17.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144642613 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144648871 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144649681 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144655122 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144655999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144656000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144657496 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144668912 0 :jix!i=jix@L6316.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144670517 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144672432 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144684984 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144690193 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes < 1144690441 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1144691351 0 :jix!i=jix@L6316.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144691982 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi jix < 1144693194 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"rizbot told me to" < 1144693218 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-176-64.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144695679 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144700881 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144702389 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144702395 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144702546 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144702695 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144704817 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144704849 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1144705259 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144708964 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin nooga < 1144713207 0 :graue!i=graue@ip68-100-130-21.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144714652 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144715264 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144716183 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144728741 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@149.9.0.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144728761 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, my network actually blocked IRC. < 1144728768 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a new low on the idiocy scale. < 1144728837 0 :Test!n=Test@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144728855 0 :Test!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaaaaaaa...... < 1144728878 0 :Test!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works with telnet O_O < 1144728881 0 :Test!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1144729002 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :K-lined < 1144729009 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@tor/session/x-580a56874dcc2065 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144729233 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144731558 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144731592 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@tor/session/x-453793569365d4ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1144735642 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144735690 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@tor/session/x-3d2a0e848b7884cf JOIN :#esoteric < 1144736966 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144737003 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@tor/session/x-d9ddb9d5fa2959b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144737907 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144738961 0 :NoneGiven!n=NoneGive@82-38-206-74.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1144742399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144742400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144751552 0 :NoneGiven!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144754065 0 :jix!i=jix@L61e4.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144771062 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Changing server" < 1144772984 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144775409 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@tor/session/external/x-428a9a4bdfc2d6aa JOIN :#esoteric < 1144775509 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144776899 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@87.236.196.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144776906 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1144777287 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144778554 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@tor/session/external/x-b0b9b70f9ea22bf1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144780563 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144782975 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144785965 0 :sekhmet_!n=pez@ppp-70-226-174-88.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144786007 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1144786027 0 :sekhmet_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sekhmet < 1144786029 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :xolotl < 1144786050 0 :xolotl!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sekhmet < 1144786616 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144787410 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144787586 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-163-239.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144788551 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144789765 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144791094 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1144791380 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1144797252 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144797923 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :i| < 1144797955 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... so how would I write an Unlambda program? ;-) < 1144797983 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose CPS is the way to go. < 1144798094 0 :i|_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144798117 0 :i|_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was fun... < 1144798135 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1144798139 0 :i|_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :i| < 1144798376 0 :i|_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144798524 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1144798529 0 :i|_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :i| < 1144798702 0 :i|_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144798724 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1144798728 0 :i|_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :i| < 1144800436 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144800440 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, the problem is building that list with CPS. < 1144805754 0 :i|_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144805774 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@56.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144805929 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144806606 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144808684 0 :i|_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :i| < 1144808965 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"¡Hasta manzana!" < 1144813021 0 :heatsink!n=heatsink@ppp-70-225-181-42.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144816691 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144818531 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144818630 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"due to ncurses problem i have to restart irssi :( see ya." < 1144818642 0 :GregorR!i=[U2FsdGV@nat.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1144818652 0 :tokigun!n=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1144826584 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144827883 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144827960 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...............ooooooooooooga! < 1144828274 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ekhm < 1144828275 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1144828282 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed... hi < 1144828288 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um? < 1144828289 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ekhm? < 1144828328 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1144828667 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spent all day creating a replacement unlink that moves files.. after deleting some that I didn't want to  < 1144828681 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kidsquid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=ubuntu < 1144828732 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically a trash for the shell < 1144828799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144828800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144828906 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghhhh < 1144828912 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu < 1144828962 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a fan ? < 1144828990 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do realize that such things already exist? < 1144829006 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's kubuntu in my school (i gue ss it's a ubuntu with kde) it sucks alot < 1144829013 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres even no gcc in it! < 1144829014 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: not that I know of < 1144829017 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell! < 1144829051 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does a quick freshmeat search, as he's sure he's seen such things. < 1144829095 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if they do exist, then it's sad that they aren't put in place by default < 1144829111 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freshmeat.net/projects/trashcan/ < 1144829121 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freshmeat.net/projects/delsafe/ < 1144829147 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freshmeat.net/projects/litetrash/ < 1144829165 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, those were hard to find -_-'' < 1144829182 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crup, I need to go to sleep, work in the morning O_O < 1144829184 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disapperates. < 1144829193 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1144829194 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1144829195 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad < 1144829200 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've got morning here < 1144830056 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdtime < 1144830059 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144830129 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1144832146 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-216.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144832165 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144834798 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144840356 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144840357 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144840357 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144840357 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144840463 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-163-239.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144840463 0 :twobitsprite!n=isaac@cpe-024-211-175-154.nc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144840463 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144840463 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80.244.80.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144840466 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144840466 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-163-239.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144844342 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144844342 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144844342 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144844342 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144844358 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-163-239.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144844358 0 :twobitsprite!n=isaac@cpe-024-211-175-154.nc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144844358 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1144844358 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80.244.80.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144844897 0 :jix_!i=jix@L61b5.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144847348 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144847670 0 :tokigun!n=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1144847994 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144848312 0 :tokigun!n=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1144848667 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144849613 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-159.104.221.203.acc51-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144849933 0 :tokigun!n=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1144850399 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144850725 0 :tokigun!n=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1144851127 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144853372 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1144856869 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cXI < 1144856871 0 :cXI!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CXI < 1144861375 0 :tokigun!n=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1144861836 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144863758 0 :tokigun!n=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1144872426 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144873863 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This is the default quit message" < 1144874332 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1144881539 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1144882403 0 :ZeroOne!n=vsaalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1144885944 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144886678 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144895900 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144901922 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@138.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144905187 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-212.105.221.203.acc51-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144908779 0 :beam!i=nickbea@24.229.70.143.res-cmts.hdt.ptd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144908943 0 :beam!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144910861 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1144915199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1144915200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1144916068 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1144921274 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1144931000 0 :jix_!i=jix@L6187.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144931039 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix < 1144943457 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144946878 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-129.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144955094 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144956533 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144956582 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1144958126 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144958290 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144959134 0 :jix!i=jix@L6187.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144959895 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION yawns. < 1144960716 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(standard music formats for games' music)++ < 1144967180 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144967278 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-163-239.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144968421 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like it < 1144971965 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-94.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144972619 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972619 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972619 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972619 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972619 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972619 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972619 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972619 0 :jix!i=jix@L6187.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144972619 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-129.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1144972619 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144972619 0 :ZeroOne!n=vsaalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1144972619 0 :GregorR!i=[U2FsdGV@nat.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1144972619 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1144972619 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144972910 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1144972910 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972910 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972910 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972911 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972911 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972911 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144972911 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144973065 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@61.247.145.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973065 0 :jix!i=jix@L6187.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973065 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973065 0 :ZeroOne!n=vsaalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973065 0 :GregorR!i=[U2FsdGV@nat.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973065 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973065 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973091 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144973091 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144973098 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144973098 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144973099 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144973099 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144973100 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1144973370 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@61.247.145.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973370 0 :jix!i=jix@L6187.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973370 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973370 0 :ZeroOne!n=vsaalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973370 0 :GregorR!i=[U2FsdGV@nat.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973370 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1144973370 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144976408 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1144977958 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CXI < 1144979001 0 :i|!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144981185 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"a CONTROLLED reboot for once" < 1144981364 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-163-239.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1144982010 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I AM HASTA MANZANA HAVE A NICE DAY" < 1144985815 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1144986175 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1144989131 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1145000276 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1145000551 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-212.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1145001599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145001600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145003712 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145004918 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145006248 0 :tokigun!i=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1145007350 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145019629 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145019629 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1145020895 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145020947 0 :jix!i=jix@89.48.96.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145021839 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145021932 0 :jix!i=jix@L60b8.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145022873 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145023792 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1145024526 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145026637 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a minor internet glitch about 16:00 UTC. < 1145026640 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got this from comparing: http://tinyurl.com/k36n8 http://tinyurl.com/fmaa3 http://tinyurl.com/f016 < 1145031577 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1145031584 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1145031590 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look what my brother did < 1145031593 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stainworks.com/learn_rb.jpg :D < 1145032818 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1145032983 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's 15 ;p < 1145038214 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145040760 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@209.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145043538 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145043848 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@209.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145043871 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145044564 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@42.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145049801 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arranging a bach chorale for piano is hard. < 1145049820 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145049863 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's just too much stuff < 1145049872 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will have to leave something out < 1145052147 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1145052187 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, I missed nooga < 1145054123 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145054689 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1145054713 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you one of teh American people on this channel? < 1145054948 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been pondering that the English measurement system is crazy. < 1145054981 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distances on signs are in miles, speeds in mph, and fuel consumption in mpg < 1145055022 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maps are in metric sizes < 1145055035 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with two scale marks < 1145055065 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I measure my height in feet and inches, but my weight in kilos < 1145055113 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scientists sometimes use metric, but sometimes use domain-specific units. < 1145055185 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :electrical enginers use amps, volts, joules, etc, but measure the speed of light as 1foot/nanosecond < 1145055233 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes, and chip density in transistors/sqin < 1145055298 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eggs still come in dozens, as do baked good sometimes, though a dozen is 13 there, not 12 < 1145055303 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1145057732 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_who_ exactly measures the speed of light as 1 foot/nanosecond? < 1145057751 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dozen is not a unit of measurement by the way, it's just 12 < 1145057771 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or 13, as it may be) < 1145058126 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, suppose so < 1145058933 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german measurement system is sane < 1145060377 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"rearrancando" < 1145061169 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145065883 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145066553 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145067343 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145069505 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145069928 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@andrea.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145070491 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145081243 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the german measurement system? < 1145081330 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm, don't they use metric there like everybody else? (except for the US, but those morons don't count) < 1145082725 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"those morons".. you are an American, so you meant "us morons" ;) < 1145082786 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sends GregorR to gitmo.. must be a terrorist < 1145082874 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-P < 1145082899 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm from the US, but I try to subdue that information :P < 1145083101 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/65/Camp_x-ray_detainees.jpg/251px-Camp_x-ray_detainees.jpg < 1145083115 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to pick out GregorR based on the hat he would wear < 1145083813 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not an orange one :P < 1145086090 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145087999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145088000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145093266 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145098706 0 :jix!i=jix@L6014.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145105317 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145107685 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145107713 0 :jix!i=jix@L6014.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145107897 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1145107926 0 :jix!i=jix@L6014.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145130234 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145130447 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"BBIAS" < 1145130495 0 :GregorR!i=[U2FsdGV@mj.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145143435 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah, I hate writing resumes < 1145144031 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1145144147 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, hopefully it'll pay off.. want to get hired on at IBM < 1145144229 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides against mentioning any esolangs or esolang projects :P < 1145145073 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145147223 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: just don't call it esoteric < 1145147243 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it.. experimental programming language research < 1145147267 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1145147283 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very creative, but no :) < 1145147375 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH you really wan't to get hired.. well then it's better to not even think about the possibility of writing a single char about it < 1145147424 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slow down, guys. I can't keep up. < 1145147430 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lalalalalla < 1145147437 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you substitute 'h' with 'f' i would write "i spend all of my time doing useless esoteric crap" < 1145147456 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: perfect! < 1145147469 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 messages in 17 hours! < 1145147484 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone talked to dbc lately? < 1145147485 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep cranking 'em. < 1145147495 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: you fear the high internet costs? < 1145147509 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know this is oversea chat very expensive... < 1145147521 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's bankrupt ihope_ < 1145147524 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fewer characters, the better. < 1145147529 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.... what's the weather like? < 1145147529 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :i| < 1145147538 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's overcast here < 1145147541 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's night < 1145147541 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't afford to use such a long nick as "ihope". < 1145147549 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not raining at the moment, although it did earlier in the day < 1145147559 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty crappy weather :( < 1145147563 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix_jix_jix_jix_ < 1145147580 0 :jix_jix_jix_jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I can afford YOU can't MUHAHAHAHA < 1145147598 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION faints < 1145147625 0 :jix_jix_jix_jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix < 1145147635 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1145147645 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'night everyone < 1145147660 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145147696 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yar < 1145147707 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP TIME < 1145147722 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP EGOBOT < 1145147749 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP I-CANT-LOG-STUFF-IN-:'( < 1145147776 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP CCCP < 1145147794 0 :EgoBot!i=[U2FsdGV@mj.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145147807 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP THANKS < 1145147807 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP THERE YOU COMPLAINER X-P < 1145149349 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1145149351 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1145149353 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo befunge bch bf{8,[16],32,64} glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda < 1145149358 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen + < 1145149361 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sablevm: cannot create vm < 1145149453 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda ` < 1145149455 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./unlambda/unlambda: file ./tmp/egobot.aOGOVY: parse error < 1145149473 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda `.fi.o.o < 1145149475 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1145154127 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"¡Hasta manzana!" < 1145160059 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145160240 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145171953 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1145173381 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145174399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145174400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145192846 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-168.104.221.203.acc51-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1145209980 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145209980 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145212715 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145214813 0 :GregorR!i=[U2FsdGV@bram.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145217314 0 :EgoBot!i=[U2FsdGV@bram.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145221366 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145221414 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145221762 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145221764 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E?bCretn < 1145221898 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145222203 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :640 < 1145224945 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2897 < 1145225650 0 :jix!i=jix@L602c.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145226853 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@125.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145232653 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145232666 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1145232670 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ello < 1145232696 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi .. wow, long nick < 1145232717 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's eating up my bandwidth... < 1145232726 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, before you came in, the last three things said here were "E?bCretn", "640", and "2897" < 1145232752 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terribly exciting < 1145233555 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1145234129 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145236543 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145238483 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody play piano? < 1145238656 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My grandfather says he can play one instrument: the radio. < 1145238970 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he probably can't help me with scale fingerings. < 1145239796 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"What the heck is a Beerdigungnachricht?" < 1145241068 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145242548 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145244899 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1145245940 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1145245972 0 :GregorR!i=[U2FsdGV@bram.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145260799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145260800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145261180 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145263165 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145271246 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145271273 0 :jix__!i=jix@L617c.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145271811 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145273901 0 :Drakas!n=draxas@host-84-9-162-66.bulldogdsl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145280402 0 :Drakas!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145281173 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: YANI for EgoBot: the !tell command. < 1145281213 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I could say "!tell calamari I am looking for a summer job too." < 1145281262 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when calamari appeared, EgoBot would say: `calamari, SimonRC says: "I am looking for a summer job too."' < 1145283988 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-67.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1145285389 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd only work in the rare condition that EgoBot has a more persistent connection than calamari >_O < 1145287591 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it has a more persistant connection than some people around here. < 1145290248 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145290409 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:39:09 GregorR: YANI for EgoBot: the !tell command. < 1145290409 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:39:49 so I could say "!tell calamari I am looking for a summer job too." < 1145290409 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:40:39 and when calamari appeared, EgoBot would say: `calamari, SimonRC says: "I am looking for a summer job too."' < 1145290418 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, I just implemented the IRP version of that command. < 1145290440 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1145290468 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, /msg memoserv help < 1145290469 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1145290471 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: guess who else lives in Portland? < 1145290479 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who? < 1145290491 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not Linus Torvalds. < 1145290493 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He lives in Beaverton. < 1145290495 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But go on :P < 1145291053 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :openoffice's export to pdf works surprisingly well < 1145291114 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it has its own font system < 1145291189 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see.. each character is stored as an image < 1145291421 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl, time for school < 1145291423 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145292773 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"rebooting" < 1145293993 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145296086 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145298921 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time calamari asks a favor of me, he leaves before I can reply :P < 1145298924 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He must think I'm a jerk. < 1145314727 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since we're all males in here, probably most of us know of this phenomenon (although some may not know it by this name). So, my question is: Is the order of urinals Turing-complete (or can it be made so trivially)? < 1145316183 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be made turing-complete by placing computers above urinals. < 1145316519 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-P < 1145316533 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then it's not the order of urinals problem, it's the computers above urinals problem. < 1145317926 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1145319354 0 :ihope!n=ihope@adsl-66-72-61-113.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145319359 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Refactor. < 1145319362 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is all. < 1145319364 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145321773 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145322716 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145325518 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145325620 0 :tokigun!i=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1145334149 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@216.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145342351 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145347199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145347200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145349543 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145356084 0 :jix!i=jix@L620b.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145358101 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145380043 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Why do you think we are all male? < 1145380512 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145380545 0 :GregorR!i=[U2FsdGV@bram.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145380575 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee SimonRC, you're right, I don't /know/ that everyone in here is male. < 1145380587 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the evidence overwhelmingly suggests so. < 1145380690 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ok < 1145380788 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders sci-fi plots based around the invention of the first useable method of finding one's position in hyperspace, with all the mandatory references to George Harrison. < 1145380818 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the start, I suppose, all hyperspacial navigation would have to be done by dead rekoning. < 1145384813 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145388582 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145394147 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145397233 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145397246 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145397385 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145402020 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-228-52-216.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145402096 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145403063 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-228-52-216.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145408177 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145409025 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145415782 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145417049 0 :GregorR!i=[U2FsdGV@bram.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145419939 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written a large chunk of a header for C++ that, through setting a bunch of macros et cetera, makes C++ act very much like Java :P < 1145419959 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garbage collection, everything is derived from Object, pass-by-reference, ... < 1145419975 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type safety ... < 1145420563 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@133.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145420820 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it fast? < 1145420896 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, garbage collection with pointers.. interesting concept < 1145421852 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include < 1145422039 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it fast? Idonno, but I didn't do anything particularly complicated, and IIRC Boehm GC is faster than Sun-Java GC in some test. < 1145422051 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably skewed by the language) < 1145422121 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about being able to return local variables.. guessing no :) < 1145422174 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on how you made them. < 1145422179 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no it doesn't. < 1145422181 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You always can. < 1145422205 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd call the copy constructor and the reference count would up. < 1145422207 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if it's fast then it isn't very much like java :( < 1145422210 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no reason why it wouldn't work. < 1145422211 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1145422223 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of swapping out Boehm GC for simple reference counting. < 1145422241 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I implemented it such that all objects are derived from Object, so I could implement reference counting in Object. < 1145422251 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Transparently of course) < 1145422337 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that lang you were going to make a while back? < 1145422354 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall ever saying I was actually going to make it ;) < 1145422361 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe now you can compile to c++ < 1145422362 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just looking into what I thought would be nice. < 1145422370 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmn < 1145422388 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, right now spanishcoffee.h is somewhere between a proof of concept and a joke. < 1145422403 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of that < 1145422417 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, sorry, that's the name for my C++->Javaish header. < 1145422425 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spanish Coffee is coffee with rum. < 1145422449 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you should be more likely to know that than me :P < 1145422468 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope.. why would i? < 1145422475 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, just more likely, since I'm under 21 :P < 1145422485 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never even drank coffee before < 1145422497 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've never drank rum ;) < 1145422502 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never have I :) < 1145422507 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err neither < 1145422507 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1145422522 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's a big ugly hack and I love it ;P < 1145422524 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :last alcohol I has was probably first grade heh < 1145422535 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1145422561 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I just realized how trivial reference counting would be 8-X < 1145422566 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swaps in reference counting. < 1145422614 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out IBM is hiring this week so I need to hurry :) < 1145422665 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shakes his Intel brand fist at you ;) < 1145422674 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that doesn't make any sense. < 1145422676 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION patents Gregor's algorithm < 1145422677 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM sells intel stuff. < 1145422681 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1145422688 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, my reference counting algorithm? < 1145422692 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1145422705 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it is: refcount++; refcount--; if (!refcount) delete this; < 1145422708 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's reaaaaaaaally complicated. < 1145422738 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :refcount++; refcount--; // optimize this ;) < 1145422764 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's code between there X-P < 1145426511 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION switched back to BGC :P < 1145426782 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so its not quite esoteric but it certainly is out-of-the-ordinary code manipulation < 1145426786 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pasteserver.net/paste/show/260 < 1145426860 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you people have never drank rum? < 1145426863 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't lived yet. < 1145427008 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- 19 years old < 1145427102 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- 17 years old < 1145427589 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- 3 years old < 1145427633 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I wonder :) < 1145427657 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, check out that link I posted, c/c or something, if no one does I'll feel like my time was wasted :D < 1145427802 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: 19 years old is pretty old. < 1145427810 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tell me you never got drunk. < 1145427818 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got drunk. < 1145427824 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeez. < 1145427826 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Americans. < 1145430583 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1145430613 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1145430625 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,, < 1145430635 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error < 1145430641 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please make a new language to accomodate < 1145430648 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax errorsyntax errorsyntax error < 1145430679 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stacklimit too much recursion please insert coin < 1145430719 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION opens the coin door and presses the magic button < 1145430741 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FREE PLAYFREE PLAYFREE PLAYFREE PLAYFREE PLAYFREE PLAYFREE PLAYFREE PLAY < 1145430765 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1145430807 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, what have you done esoteric lately < 1145430830 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arrogant: nothing, been dealing with real life lately < 1145430845 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear ya < 1145430861 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I did get dbc's address so I can mail him his abacus :) < 1145430869 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing remotely related to esoteric languages I've done was this thing I did to make Ruby into a prototype-based language < 1145430873 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1145430884 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's kinda esoteric related, since it was from the bf golf contest < 1145430896 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1145430904 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code is rather horrendous so I think it fits < 1145430905 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pasteserver.net/paste/show/262 < 1145431067 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn Ruby sometime < 1145431116 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks slightly like python < 1145431274 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1145431291 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except in Python I like the function model better < 1145431306 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering in Ruby function_name doesn't refer to the function object, it calls the function :( < 1145431313 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(parenthesis not required and all) < 1145431484 0 :calamari_!i=calamari@ip68-228-52-216.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145431495 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145431528 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ short term memory loss, heh < 1145431665 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe < 1145432919 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know calamari, prototype-based programming is sorely underrepresented < 1145432994 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either the language is a poor implementation of the design (Javascript), is outdated (Self), or has absolutely no syntactic sugar, making it a pain (Io) < 1145433089 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with Javascript? < 1145433210 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up prototype-based programming to gain a clue < 1145433234 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't really even get the prototyping model right < 1145433248 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, basically it gets rid of the Class/Instance distinction < 1145433255 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objects are clones of other objects < 1145433309 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :person = object.clone ; doctor = person.clone ; doctor.salary = 5000 ; steve = Doctor.clone ; steve.name = "Steve" < 1145433323 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poorly paid doctor < 1145433374 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changes the way methods are defined as well, as methods have to be assigned like any other object < 1145433437 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think properly done it could be a fantastic model < 1145433487 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm human.clone .. < 1145433506 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hears the right-wing getting ready to protest prototype-based programming < 1145433599 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if the Libertarian Party will ever gain enough momentum to make a difference... so far, nope < 1145433599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145433600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145433785 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, calamari, the code I linked you to was an implementation of ugly, incomplete prototype-based programming in Ruby < 1145433832 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly ugly because of Ruby's unfortunate distinction between blocks and methods :/ < 1145433879 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd do it in Python except Python doesn't have anonymous blocks < 1145434622 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145434622 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145436044 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145438276 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145440492 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@61.247.145.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145441385 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145454187 0 :jix!i=jix@89.48.99.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145457171 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Reconnecting" < 1145457182 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80.244.80.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145458616 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@astor.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145461391 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145461394 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scientology... the science of science? < 1145463227 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Logan-5 < 1145463263 0 :Logan-5!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SimonC < 1145463265 0 :SimonC!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SimonRC < 1145464518 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Scientology: The science of attaining ultimate gullibility. < 1145464534 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1145464537 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A science that few have mastered. < 1145464547 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of them actors or other influential morons. < 1145465316 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, there are a lot of plain victims < 1145465343 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To finance the much btter experience by all the famous people. < 1145465382 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* http://clambake.org/ *cough* Ididn'tmentionthissite. < 1145465482 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a feeling there's a URL between coughs, but upon closer inspection, there is none < 1145466189 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord clambake fnord dot fnord org fnord < 1145466201 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>-) < 1145481607 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@34.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145483077 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145485183 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145485480 0 :calamari!n=Kid@cb03.cs.arizona.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145486765 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145489826 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have anybody here used Ruby on Rails? < 1145489847 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my father wants to learn it. < 1145489873 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it could be a fun and quick way to do web apps < 1145490601 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay i use it < 1145490604 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really cool < 1145490625 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have to go to bed now.. school tomorrow and its 1 am here < 1145490630 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-10min) < 1145490723 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145491753 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145497787 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145501563 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Estoy estando." < 1145514652 0 :sekhmet_!n=pez@ppp-70-226-165-36.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145514665 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1145514673 0 :sekhmet_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sekhmet < 1145514844 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just added user permissions to my wiki system :) < 1145514846 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a plugin, no less! < 1145519999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145520000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145525907 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145538519 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Shutting Down < 1145538736 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1145538736 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1145539002 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG, they killed ChanServ! < 1145539003 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1145539092 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those bastards! < 1145548549 0 :jix!i=jix@L61a3.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145550525 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145552184 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot, it's Thursday? < 1145552188 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/?/!/ < 1145552337 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excuse for my post but I do not have money to buy meal to my children. Forgive me please. < 1145552360 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1145552376 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was taken from a piece of vandalism. < 1145552397 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants a new mac book pro < 1145552521 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, my grades so far appear to be exponentially distributed. < 1145552535 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :upside-down < 1145552543 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine too. < 1145552551 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :giving me a mean of 74 and a median of 93 < 1145552573 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that'd be me, more or less. < 1145552580 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh/ < 1145552586 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes < 1145552589 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aren;t at my Uni, though < 1145552907 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides he likes the fact that CS only has 5 exams. < 1145552923 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to the dozens Maths people get. < 1145559324 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145561075 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145561509 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145563570 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145568955 0 :LarsH!n=X@216-169-189.0504.adsl.tele2.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1145568985 0 :LarsH!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145568992 0 :LarsH!n=X@216-169-189.0504.adsl.tele2.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1145568994 0 :LarsH!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1145570251 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145573301 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you say "Finnish" in Finnish? < 1145573411 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it suomea? < 1145573726 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145574773 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145575889 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1145576030 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145576795 0 :LarsH!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1145578863 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "English" in English is "English". Maybe "Finnish" in Finnish is "Finnish". < 1145579330 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1145579335 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not likely < 1145579361 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Finland" in Finnish is "Suomi", so I guess it it is something similar < 1145579416 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡España! ¡España! < 1145579534 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: "in Finnish" is "suomeksi" < 1145579548 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spècíâl chârâctërs! Møøse! < 1145580854 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: Thanks! I'll take your /whois to mean that you're a reliable reference for this info :) < 1145580920 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: Erm, actually, I don't want "in Finnish," I just want "Finnish." It's just a list of languages (English, Deutsch, Español, Italiano ...) < 1145580972 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is there no precise translation due to the structure of the language? < 1145581316 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: the name of language would be just "suomi" < 1145581395 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145581408 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@astor.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145581417 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, "suomi" it is ^^ < 1145581418 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks :) < 1145581538 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: http://publications.eu.int/code/fi/fi-370201.htm might help if you wonder about the capitalization of other names of languages < 1145581594 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do, I've just been capitalizing them all until Finnish 8-X < 1145581619 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- clearly not a language expert < 1145581624 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, not in natural languages ;) < 1145581653 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how much you should trust that publications.eu.int document but it does talk about "italiano" < 1145581676 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really not particuarly important, nobody uses this script anyway :P < 1145581718 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://publications.eu.int/code/pdf/370000en.htm capitalizes them all, hmm < 1145581754 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's obnoxious :P < 1145581777 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm, they look decap'd to me ... < 1145581792 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nations are capitalized, but not the languages. < 1145581825 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, sorry < 1145581839 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun with the irregularities :) < 1145581860 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm not writing any of the translations, I just make the list :P < 1145583448 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145587631 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: Mind translating "Registration is not handled by this wiki, you must attain an account elsewhere." into Español for me? < 1145587711 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Es español, no Español. < 1145587719 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, heheh. < 1145587723 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just learned that even :P < 1145587747 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also learned that ... geeze, how long ago now ... six years? Seven years? Quite a while ago. < 1145589379 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145589428 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Excuse for my quit but I do not have money to buy meal to my children. Forgive me please." < 1145594249 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does google index on web sites? < 1145597015 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@75.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145601149 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145602916 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds NT domain authentication to Giki 8-D < 1145603869 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1145606399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145606400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145607927 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145608596 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145617215 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145636826 0 :jix!i=jix@L62d7.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145643664 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145643698 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A communist programming language. < 1145643711 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, it is not object oriented. < 1145644031 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And with no capital letters. < 1145644106 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The < and > operators will have to be banned. All variables are equal. < 1145644120 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Further, all calculations must give random results. < 1145644124 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be so awesome. < 1145645288 0 :rorian!n=jamesfys@host81-151-11-255.range81-151.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145645379 0 :rorian!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145645988 0 :calamari!i=calamari@ip68-105-135-51.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145648820 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145649798 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145649944 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SgeOffTheWalls < 1145652153 0 :john_________!n=chatzill@hlfxns01bbf-142177229136.ns.aliant.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145652193 0 :john_________!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any IRP programmers here? < 1145652344 0 :john_________!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please say "hello world" < 1145652404 0 :john_________!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :john____ < 1145653753 0 :john____!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.71 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006030803]" < 1145659112 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1145659129 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunate that I wasn't here to help with my own programming language :P < 1145661916 0 :SgeOffTheWalls!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1145665283 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: "Registration is not handled by this wiki, you must attain an account elsewhere." -> "Este wiki no maneja registro de usuarios; debes obtener una cuenta por otros medios." (translation adapted; it literally means: "this wiki does not handle user registration; you must obtain an account by other means" which sounds more adapted to Spanish speech) < 1145665349 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for the delay, I've just arrived back home) < 1145667074 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145667078 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/images/647.jpg < 1145667415 0 :heatsink!n=heatsink@tongue.crhc.uiuc.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145670109 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: Whoot, you rawk. < 1145671052 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Firefox, this link doesn't go anywhere: http://:-(/ < 1145671079 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This does, however: http://X-D/ < 1145671302 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does this: http://^_^/ < 1145672126 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh kay. < 1145672700 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: Mind giving me "Username", "Password" and "Preview" as well (I don't trust babelfish :) ) < 1145672719 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hehehe, it's 3AM there :P < 1145675381 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is awed < 1145675395 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1145675809 0 :i|!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145676002 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1145676438 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1145676474 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:24:57 Oh, hehehe, it's 3AM there :P < 1145676474 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:09:19 * ihope is awed < 1145676474 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:09:33 ? < 1145676492 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1145676526 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION laughs < 1145676564 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be me being amazed at the concept of the limp. < 1145676588 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1145676589 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1145676596 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145676601 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the limp. < 1145676634 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow ow ow my ankle hurts oh if i walk this way it wont hurt as much. < 1145676650 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're speaking literally of limping ... < 1145676658 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1145676664 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what's so awe inspiring about that. < 1145676702 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you have to agree that it's more awe-inspriring than the fact that it's 3 AM somewhere. < 1145676723 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that was my response to asking him to do something, when he's clearly asleep. < 1145676880 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just another human anthropomorphization, GregorR. < 1145676896 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to go eat dinner now. < 1145676901 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Friday, so I'm eating out. < 1145676904 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I eat? < 1145676914 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pizza? < 1145676918 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't like cheese. < 1145676964 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'll go find something :P < 1145676967 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disapperates. < 1145676975 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then, do as Hutch in that one movie did... < 1145679690 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1145679690 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ < 1145679707 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my taskbar and ability to type died < 1145679876 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145680141 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145680284 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Bush coined the word "misunderstanding". < 1145680525 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is it here that's the python addict? < 1145680582 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a parseltongue here? < 1145680597 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that be ChanServ? < 1145680599 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145680608 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun! < 1145680618 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whas it lament? < 1145680650 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points fingers < 1145680657 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whas? How about "Was", Gregor -_- < 1145680667 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. anyway, goodnight. < 1145680669 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145681272 0 :tokigun!i=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1145682047 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145683226 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145686198 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like python < 1145686373 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: DAMN YOU AND YOUR GOOD PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1145686438 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That being said, I now have a non-web scripting language of preference, which is good because perl is amazingly bad. < 1145686462 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1145686504 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't enjoy the whole no-block-ending-keyword thing, but I'm learning to grok that, and it's a small price to pay. < 1145686559 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, you'll enjoy it soon enough. < 1145686568 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really way better than any other way. < 1145686648 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't like that you can end multiple blocks in one swift move, especially since it can sometimes be unclear exactly what block you just dropped to >_> < 1145688493 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145688502 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1145688628 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1145690664 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145692799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145692800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145700878 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1145700878 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1145700878 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1145700917 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-165-36.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145700917 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80.244.80.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145700917 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145700958 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1145700991 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145701192 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1145701198 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80.244.80.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145701386 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145702400 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145707852 0 :i|!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145708389 0 :jix!i=jix@L612c.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145708555 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1145709172 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1145709187 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world < 1145709196 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sp3tt: great idea :) < 1145709352 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145709385 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145709467 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1145709474 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu < 1145709477 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i < 1145711853 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145716563 0 :rocket000!i=Rocket@80.74.173.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145716584 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greetings! < 1145716635 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :greetings < 1145716638 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please say "Hello, World!" < 1145716643 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1145716657 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come everyone is trying irp lately? :) < 1145716690 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, this is as esoteric a you can get. < 1145716709 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As. < 1145716742 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker? You there? < 1145716850 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, i gotta say it. IRP is st00pid. It's pointless. It's brilliant. < 1145716929 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what now? < 1145716968 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a 99 bottles of beer deal? < 1145717001 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1145717021 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145717252 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh, i was away for a while, sorry < 1145717665 0 :rocket000!i=Rocket@80.74.173.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145717676 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back! < 1145717702 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocket000: you can join multiple channels at once < 1145717725 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1145717797 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. How would you go about making a 99 bottles of beer program in IRP? < 1145717852 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just ask someone to print the lyrics of 99 bob... < 1145717888 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. Do it. < 1145717953 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1145717963 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1145717995 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that would generate a "IRP interpreter kicked from channel/server" error ;) to much lines/secs < 1145718016 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1145718023 0 :rocket000!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145718838 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145719200 0 :i|!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145719214 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1145719274 0 :tokigun!i=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1145719698 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145722483 0 :i|_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145722557 0 :i|_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1145723472 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1145724950 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE TOUCHPADS. < 1145724952 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is all. < 1145724968 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i guess i hate them too < 1145724971 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I hate trackballs even more. < 1145724988 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1145725982 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I wouldn't want to be this guy: http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/getavatar?memberid=367743 < 1145726015 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor kitty. < 1145726062 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there a website full of such stuff? < 1145726085 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1145726157 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonsai_Kitten < 1145726250 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be it < 1145728564 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :su: user root does not exist < 1145728826 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: use sudo < 1145728842 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: sudo: command not found < 1145728847 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS? < 1145728851 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows. < 1145728857 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1145728890 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on osx there is no root by default but there is sudo.... same on some linux distributions < 1145729688 0 :i|_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145729753 0 :i|_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :i| < 1145730613 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1145736669 0 :i|_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145736706 0 :i|_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wugh. < 1145736760 0 :i|_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1145737147 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, man Wikipedia is amazing < 1145737196 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What "real" encyclopedia would have an article on the most famous internet shock site of all time: goatse.cx ? < 1145737597 0 :i|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145738480 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love their article on the word fuck. < 1145739206 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to learn AJAX >_> < 1145739210 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel behind-the-times. < 1145739456 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you don't have to learn AJAX < 1145739463 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to use it < 1145739475 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you use ruby on rails) < 1145739517 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and learning AJAX is learning javascript learning prototype.js... < 1145740515 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like ruby :P < 1145740526 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has all the worst stuff from perl. < 1145740531 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They didn't learn from perl's mistakes. < 1145740562 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And besides that, I don't like magic solutions. < 1145741321 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so AJAX is simple :P < 1145741365 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already knowing Javascript and is practically already knowing AJAX. < 1145742517 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there is pretty much everything in wikipedia < 1145742518 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145742977 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145743072 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: no ruby has taken the good stuff from perl! < 1145743242 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, guess what? wiki has spam again! < 1145743402 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed < 1145743743 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From my experience with ruby, it has all the syntactic cyanide^H^H^H^H^H^H^H"sugar" of perl. < 1145744818 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that < 1145744831 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is wrong with /regexp/ ? < 1145744852 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats just a shortcut for Regexp.new("regexp") < 1145744900 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "test" =~ /test/ is just "test".=~(Regexp.new("test")) < 1145745000 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and puts "test" is puts("test") < 1145745164 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: "Username", "Password", "Preview" -> "Usuario", "Clave", "Vista previa" < 1145745226 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! "Username", "Password", "Preview" -> "Benutzername", "Passwort", "Vorschau" < 1145745267 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey jix, you can update my German translation, thanks for volunteering! < 1145745310 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it for giki? < 1145745315 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: Yeah. < 1145745347 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: Sorry to keep imposing, but I have two last ones I added, then no more, do you mind? < 1145745375 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ones? < 1145745431 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no imposing at all < 1145745435 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: "Repeat password", "Passwords don't match!" < 1145745475 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... "Repeat password" as in "Please type in the password again"? < 1145745491 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah - like on a registration page, it has Password: and then Repeat password: for verification. < 1145745555 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then "Repita la clave" will do < 1145745591 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Passwords don't match" -> "Las claves no coinciden" < 1145745601 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, you're awesome ^^ < 1145745607 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/m < 1145745652 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: Since you graciously volunteered to translate these strings into German: "Repeat password", "Preview", "Registration is not handled by this wiki, you must attain an account elsewhere.", "Passwords don't match!" < 1145745681 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, you already gave me "Preview" :P < 1145745688 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the worst point of Python IMO is non-modifiable strings < 1145745699 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: Yeah, that's pretty obnoxious. < 1145745705 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like their decisions for immutability. < 1145745738 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that PHP gracefully rejected < 1145745750 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really love PHP's syntax, it's awesome in every way. < 1145745755 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP's syntax is the holy grail of syntax. < 1145745760 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i HATE php's syntax < 1145745763 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1145745773 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, then there's Pike < 1145745783 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmn, haven't had any experience with Pike. < 1145745804 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly C, just it's not C < 1145745834 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Repeat password" => "Passwort wiederholen" "Registration is not handled by this wiki, you must attain an account elsewhere." => just sounds stupid in german.. i have to think about this "Passwords don't match!" => "Passwörter stimmen nicht überein" < 1145745869 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: Yeah, pgimeno adjusted that phrase to be more suitable for the Spanish langauge too, it'll probably need some funkifying. < 1145745932 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :His was literally "this wiki does not handle user registration; you must obtain an account by other means" < 1145745958 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a bit better for german but still not perfect < 1145745968 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're the one who speaks it ;) < 1145746008 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i knew the context i could rephrase it in a good way... where do you display this? < 1145746035 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the wiki uses a login plugin. A situation like that would be if the wiki used UNIX logins, or logged you on to an NT domain. < 1145746047 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that situation holds true, and you try to go to the registration page, it says that. < 1145746057 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would "User registration isn't allowed" be ok? < 1145746069 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not necessarily true >_> < 1145746075 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1145746079 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know but it sounds better < 1145746080 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1145746082 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki doesn't handle the user registration, but it could be handled elsewhere. < 1145746102 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had no idea this phrase was so problematic O_O < 1145746112 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to handle is the problematic word < 1145746118 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Support? < 1145746138 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i allready tried that but... < 1145746245 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is account called in the other translations? (german) < 1145746251 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: now that you say that, you'd better change "Este wiki no maneja..." to "Este wiki no soporta..." < 1145746263 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: Heheh, OK < 1145746285 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: The word "account" isn't used anywhere else :P < 1145746293 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah and the word registration? < 1145746330 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually used the phrase "add user" to title the page. < 1145746352 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop pointing out my inconsistencies :P < 1145746496 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i have an idea "Die Benutzer-Registration wird nicht über diesen Wiki abgewickelt, [Ss]ie müssen ihren Benutzer-Account an anderer Stelle Registrieren" thats "user reigstration isn't handled by this wiki (i found a transltaion for handled that sounds good), you have to register your account at a different place" < 1145746511 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's perfect. < 1145746527 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it that the word "Sie/sie" could be capped or decapped there? < 1145746551 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that changed with the new orthography < 1145746553 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure < 1145746590 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, orthography changes are hateful/obnoxious < 1145746611 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google is 50:50 on Sie vs sie .... < 1145746619 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1145746628 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it even support cap changes? < 1145746628 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd use Sie < 1145746635 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll trust you on that. < 1145746705 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally words like Sie are in lower case.. but Sie is the polite form of du (both you in english) and i think it's capitalized because of it is the polite form < 1145746780 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in german you can't substitute du and Sie without changing EVERYTHING else in the sentence < 1145746805 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoot, two to go 8-D < 1145746808 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Translations that is) < 1145746888 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks that human communication languages shouldn't be esoteric < 1145746905 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric isn't the right word there, but I agree :p < 1145746913 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and "they" is "Sie" too! < 1145746921 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait it's always lowercase then... < 1145746922 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: That's handy X-P < 1145746927 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the rest of the sentence is different < 1145746948 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in all cases but in some < 1145747144 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*brain implodes* < 1145747259 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION insists < 1145747271 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :insists on what? < 1145747278 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the above < 1145747314 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that human communication languages shouldn't be esoteric < 1145747344 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric isn't the right word there, but I agree :p < 1145747411 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION founds the Esoteric Insistence Society (EIS) < 1145747435 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nm < 1145747500 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Giki 1.5.0 will rock to ridiculous degrees. < 1145747575 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how much you all care about that :P < 1145747606 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1145747718 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sobbles* < 1145747730 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a #giki , so I have to redirect giki news here :P < 1145749209 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: natural languages are all quite esoteric by programming language standards < 1145749222 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: perhaps not in the sense of brainfuck, but certainly in the sense of perl < 1145749247 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145750934 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145750958 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1145750971 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is perl or BrainFuck more ridiculous (I'll use this term because BF is clearly more esoteric) < 1145750979 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote perl. < 1145752523 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think perl, because, unlike brainfuck, people actually use it < 1145752536 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's just ridiculous < 1145753167 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1145753271 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck also has much more internal consistency. < 1145753931 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more international conspiracy. < 1145754052 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remind me what Giki is < 1145754258 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: My wiki engine. < 1145754407 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points to http://giki.sf.net/ (and goes to bed) < 1145754494 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, of course < 1145754500 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have remembered < 1145754687 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's small and easy to use, but supports plugins to a ridiculous degree. < 1145754699 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1145754699 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With plugins, you can go from the world's simplest wiki to MediaWiki ^^ < 1145754722 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, not all of the plugins for that are implemented X-P < 1145754751 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely I will never get used to the sheer amazingness of the net: < 1145754752 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tcc.members.beeb.net/ < 1145754782 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1145754787 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.donotputthebaby.com/ < 1145755380 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any new ones? < 1145755474 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There will be when you suggest one 8-D < 1145756475 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't put the baby into the vacuum bell jar < 1145756517 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't put the baby near a black hole < 1145756521 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1145756587 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't put the baby close to Gregor < 1145756589 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gn8 < 1145756601 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145768112 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145771931 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@12.78.67.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145772512 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145776004 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1145779199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145779200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145780465 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145787619 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145794857 0 :jix!i=jix@L63f7.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145811073 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145812173 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145812318 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145812944 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145813073 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145813901 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145819757 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol: http://slashdot.org/articles/06/04/23/159227.shtml (a comment points to a mirror at: http://data.coolnicks.co.uk/Code%20Monkey.mp3 ) < 1145819822 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Code monkey like Fritos. # # Code monkey like TAB and Mountain Dew. # < 1145823421 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145823483 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arrrrgh, why doesn't w3 validator like this >_O < 1145823551 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, found it 8-X < 1145824627 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145829475 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@astor.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145829517 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145831371 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@227.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145831555 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to decide whether to release Giki 1.5.0 today or wait for feedback from the people he e-mailed >_> < 1145831721 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :release it now and release a "i shouldn't have released this yesterday" release tomorrow! < 1145831789 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1145831801 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brilliant. < 1145831805 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/debian-packages-release-names < 1145831889 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The WoW Effect < 1145831897 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WoW effect? < 1145831902 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Break it with a patch on Tuesday < 1145831911 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apologize and revert with another patch on Wednesday < 1145831952 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gn < 1145831952 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145831958 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geeze. < 1145831962 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much forewarning, jix. < 1145832047 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He can't hear you :)) < 1145832563 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1145833458 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145833486 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145835448 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, been thinking of another contest: smallest compiler, of any turing complete lang.. existing or nonexistant. basically what was done with bf. any platform, any binary type, any machine language with actual hardware < 1145835465 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, smallest compiler ever < 1145835493 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it can be done smaller than bf, if another lang were used < 1145835775 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No dynamic binaries allowed? < 1145835811 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about that.. it would be reasonable to allow file operations and stdin/out < 1145835832 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not any lib.. otherwise you get libturing.so < 1145835836 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff, dynamic binaries are for pansies. < 1145835855 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use raw system calls. < 1145835857 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not so tough. < 1145835860 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: how else would you read the file from linux < 1145835866 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raw system calls! < 1145835869 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :syscall 1 is read < 1145835873 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sycall 2 is open IIRC < 1145835876 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there, you're done. < 1145835884 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I misunderstood what you were saying < 1145835885 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus of course you could just make it read from stdin. < 1145835889 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1145835891 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah syscalls < 1145835906 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example in ms-dos I could use bios / dos calls < 1145835912 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly library < 1145835915 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1145835920 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1145835921 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Safer than allowing library links. < 1145835927 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And more fun >: ) < 1145835930 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1145835953 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, MS-DOS calls might be considered cheating, I dunno < 1145835966 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has open/read/ etc calls < 1145835978 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats fine < 1145835997 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea was that they couldn't just call somer function that was the real compiler < 1145836001 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1145836009 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't want them linking to libpython.so < 1145836038 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, no excuses based on platform.. if you choose linux, you live with the ovverhead elf or a.out or whatever :) < 1145836078 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1145836079 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so probably best not to use linux hehe < 1145836082 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1145836099 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.COM 4tw < 1145836140 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure 8-bit atari and commodore machines also have a raw binary format < 1145836147 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the 6502 angle :) < 1145836243 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1145836248 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if any 68000-based machines used raw binaries.. perhaps the st? < 1145836248 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the amiga? < 1145836256 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure < 1145836296 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it should also be a standard os .. otherwise the open call might have extra special turing complete behavior < 1145836309 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that anyone would cheat that way.. hehe < 1145836315 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1145836320 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First write your own OS, then write this :P < 1145836323 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1145836347 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and instantly you have the 0-byte turing complete lang < 1145836363 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/lang/compiler/ < 1145836400 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow, does this seem like a contest that would be fun? < 1145836424 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun in that I'd never enter because I don't have the time or patience? Heck yeah! < 1145836443 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, maybe wait until summer then < 1145836474 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have the patience for writing assembly language code? and you call yourself a programmer? < 1145836507 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long it will be until they don't even offer assembly languages courses in college < 1145836513 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad, really < 1145836647 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1145836676 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't have the patience for writing this particular project in assembly language code, especially nasty code with raw syscalls et al. < 1145840403 0 :Waddledee!n=fizzit@c-67-161-112-104.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145840511 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ello < 1145840599 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves! < 1145840673 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What brings you to #esoteric? < 1145840713 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or welcome back if I just haven't noticed you X-P < 1145840852 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION saw the Wikipedia article on IRP and decided to poke his lack of nose in on a whim. < 1145840914 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah, since when is there a Wikipedia article on IRP? XD < 1145840956 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume you mean on the esolangs wiki, though it would be hilarious if there was one on Wikipedia ;P < 1145841051 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to figure out how he got here. 4,0(1,0''4,0)12,0; < 1145841085 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1145841088 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, here it is! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM has a link to http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/IRP < 1145841108 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah < 1145841119 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It amuses me that my stupid IRP page has been linked to from Wikipedia ;P < 1145841162 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fear its awesome power. 4,0(1,0^^4,0) < 1145841171 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to figure out who posted that there ^^ < 1145841226 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sam Pointon, according to the edit history. < 1145841243 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1145841247 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows who that is :P < 1145841252 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprised it's not somebody in here (AFAIK) < 1145841436 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. Um. Soda? < 1145841450 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure! Got some handy? < 1145841590 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tosses GregorR a soda: pineapple! It's got a picture of Rick on the side. < 1145841655 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mildly terrified, but will still drink :P < 1145841663 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pops open the soda. < 1145841845 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just pineapple soda with a picture of a hamster on it. I got it at Waddle Mart. < 1145841864 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Rick is a hamster. < 1145841876 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it's at least slightly less terrifying now. < 1145841917 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, Gregor dissapeared! < 1145841932 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IE I have stuff to do which doesn't involve sitting at the computer X-P) < 1145842219 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves bye to GregorR. < 1145842819 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION listens to the quiet. < 1145843438 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"*wanders*" < 1145843578 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145844352 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ewww colors. < 1145844953 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: what color < 1145844964 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. :P < 1145845212 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845220 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845224 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845227 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845230 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845233 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DAMN DDOS'R < 1145845234 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845238 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845240 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845242 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845244 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG MAKE THE FLOODING STOP < 1145845245 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845247 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845248 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845250 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845251 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845253 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845257 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO YOU DISABLE THE IRP INTERPRETER?!?!?! < 1145845258 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845259 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845260 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845264 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try /quit < 1145845266 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845267 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845270 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845275 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to quit! < 1145845276 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845278 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop. < 1145845278 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1145845282 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop. < 1145845283 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, /me stops :P < 1145845286 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe < 1145845294 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, IRP really works < 1145845311 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please send me all your money. < 1145845320 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done :( < 1145845369 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illegal Operation < 1145845398 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you suggesting a course of action? :) < 1145845408 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes 8-D < 1145845420 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please break into somebody's house and steal something not particularly valuable, like a fork. < 1145845475 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my.. I seem to have violated IRP etiquette < 1145845487 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you GregorR for your assistance in running my IRP program ;) < 1145845512 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your welcome, calamari! :P < 1145845526 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thank you for running mine which was really just yours by proxy. < 1145845626 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I have females chasing me... but they are just mosquitos < 1145845644 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta get what you can where you can X-P < 1145845655 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that phrase doesn't apply when you're married, does it :P < 1145845812 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is this < 1145845813 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Yellow_Four_Code < 1145845921 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm < 1145845933 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't answer that 8-X < 1145846736 0 :Arrogant_!i=Scott@156.orlando-04-05rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145847150 0 :Arrogant_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145847749 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1145847757 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. smaller code: reading the program from stdin, writing to stdout :) < 1145847861 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the assumption was that it would do that. < 1145847874 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn < 1145847907 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an issue: I want to write an interpreter for i386 to run i386 code - that should be tough, yeah. Write it into memory then jmp. Difficult. < 1145847982 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be cheating, because it is essentially using the cpu as an external library < 1145848009 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw you wouldn't even need to jmp < 1145848015 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just echo in to out < 1145848043 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. interpreter < 1145848051 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a compiler challenge < 1145848062 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf was the smallest compiler < 1145848088 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, compiler. < 1145848092 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yeah, then just echo in to out :P < 1145848127 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, this homework is so stupid: "5) Obtain the HTTP/1.1 specification and answer the following questions: a) Explain the mechanism ..." < 1145848130 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a question, stupid! < 1145848151 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just mentally change Explain to What is < 1145849003 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: so, what is a rule to prevent the cat compiler? < 1145849140 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: The source language and the destination language must not be otherwise interoperable? < 1145849158 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably too binding slash difficult to explicate. < 1145849163 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then I just subtract one from the "source" -> "det" < 1145849165 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dest < 1145849171 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or add one or whatever < 1145849174 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1145849177 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleck. < 1145849881 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't even restrict the program to printable characters, because you can wiggle out of that one in dos < 1145849963 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the printable characters are sufficient to build an extraction program) < 1145850060 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not under linux tho < 1145850078 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then we have to deal with elf headers < 1145851071 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fram. < 1145851096 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fram is the word that means "Don't do this. Yeah, you know what I mean. Don't do it. < 1145851448 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a cat compiler? < 1145852074 0 :GregorR_!i=[U2FsdGV@miguel.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145852115 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: That was the example of compiling i386 code to i386 code as a simple compiler. < 1145852125 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it's not a compiler at all, it's `cat` < 1145852530 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145852530 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145852756 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1145853453 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, well < 1145853455 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it certainly qualifies < 1145853504 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just really shitty since it has no error detection whatsoever < 1145853841 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1145854951 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145856568 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it help if its an interpreter? < 1145856582 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only slightly. < 1145856583 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat? < 1145856980 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I mean is it might be easier to define a rule < 1145857018 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1145857033 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as 'the input must be processed conditionally' < 1145857049 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, something like that < 1145857840 0 :Waddledee!n=fizzit@c-67-161-112-104.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145857900 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves! < 1145858823 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves? < 1145858860 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :P < 1145858925 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it normally this quiet in here, or did I come at a bad time? < 1145858951 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's usually pretty quiet. < 1145858955 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Occasionally it gets noisy. < 1145858963 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It waxes and wanes. < 1145859019 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods, taking a seat on a little cushion. Wanna chocolate capsule? < 1145859070 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you take the brown pill, you'll see just how far the rabbit hole goes. < 1145859080 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you take the blue pill, well, yeah, you get the idea. < 1145859188 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives GregorR a chocolate capsule. Inside is a Series Two Kaboomba, with walking-off-ledges action! < 1145859278 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't recognize the reference. < 1145859445 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It, like me, is a critter from the Kirby games. It's a bomb with feet. It likes to walk off ledges and fall on Kirby's head. < 1145859468 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sprite: http://kirby.classicgaming.gamespy.com/games/nightmare/enemies/kaboomba.PNG < 1145859651 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck. < 1145859680 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1145859826 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a fan of the Kirby games, as you might guess. < 1145860743 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's horrible. < 1145860747 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bomb with feet. < 1145860780 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just reading the wikipedia article about Kaiten, japanese manned suicide torpedoes < 1145860791 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1145861694 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet another reason to dislike Kirby games. < 1145861779 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks a little hurt. < 1145861898 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_calculus < 1145861902 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1145864639 0 :Waddledee!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Zzz." < 1145865599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145865600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145865659 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145875827 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the yellow-four-code wiki page needs a vocabulary correction. < 1145875996 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"base-4 bit" -> "quart" (to match INTERCAL docs) < 1145876558 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to a lecture, feeling paranoid. http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=183890&cid=15188582 < 1145877886 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145884205 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1145884625 0 :jix!i=jix@L6221.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145887662 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1145890215 0 :EgoBot!i=[U2FsdGV@miguel.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145891117 0 :darksbane!i=darksban@souax6-008.dialup.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1145891121 0 :darksbane!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145899056 0 :jix!i=jix@L6221.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145899078 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145905765 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1145907108 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145907172 0 :calamari!n=Kid@cb03.cs.arizona.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145910335 0 :jix!i=jix@L6221.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145914015 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145914297 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1145920480 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145920727 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1145920778 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145921572 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1145923906 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145923970 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145924033 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1145924141 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1145929930 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1145932163 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, an article about interactive fiction on mobygames < 1145941817 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody mind making a judgment about a wiki template? < 1145941900 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind, the person I was trying to talk to reappeared :P < 1145949019 0 :thin!i=thin@69.46.24.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145949056 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lo < 1145949062 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1145949176 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a good language design channel to debate about languages, even if they aren't necessarily esoteric? < 1145949186 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often it is, yes. < 1145949200 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1145949212 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know of any other language design channels < 1145949215 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah :) < 1145949247 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless #lisp counts :) < 1145949251 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was reading some php vs ruby on rails discussion and i started wondering, what the heck is necessary for fast development in a language.. < 1145949265 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Python, that's what! < 1145949270 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1145949279 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought I'd answer preemptively for ya'. < 1145949301 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a curious question. < 1145949314 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i'm a forther.. and i was attracted to its promise of fast development, but i spend most of my time messing with the low level stuff :/ < 1145949314 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think first and foremost it has to be interpreted, and abstract away the concept of pointers. < 1145949332 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast development in forth is a horrible horrible lie :) < 1145949345 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well its theoretically possible! ;) < 1145949350 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm :) < 1145949358 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't believe it till it's proven < 1145949366 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1145949374 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet the proof will use the axiom of choice < 1145949384 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has to be very internally consistent. < 1145949399 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1145949402 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing that annoys me about PHP is that some functions take (haystack, needle) and others take (needle, haystack) < 1145949403 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, it has to be Python. < 1145949418 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, strings have to be mutable. < 1145949421 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard ruby was the new python :P < 1145949421 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it's just worthless. < 1145949427 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: screw you! < 1145949430 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1145949456 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thin: why do we need a new python, when the old one works just fine? < 1145949457 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby is the new shiny object. < 1145949472 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby on Rails is becoming somewhat buzzwordish, true < 1145949474 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like Ruby because it inherited all the worst parts of Perl and all the worst parts of OO >_> <_< < 1145949494 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, what are those parts? < 1145949500 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$_ < 1145949503 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$_ will never be acceptable. < 1145949511 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the most notable :P < 1145949520 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't hackers love $_ ? :P < 1145949525 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morons love $_ < 1145949530 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morons who think they're hackers. < 1145949532 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But are actually morons. < 1145949544 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1145949549 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the harm in $_ though? < 1145949549 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the whole @a is an array, $a['blah'] is an element unless that element is an array in which case it's still @a['blah'] but then $a['blah'][0] OH GOD < 1145949567 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm :/ < 1145949568 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Side effects are usually bad, and $_ is the definition of side effects. < 1145949575 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Virtually EVERYTHING modifies $_. < 1145949582 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can never keep it consistent. < 1145949586 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, things like this are just ugly: < 1145949592 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :print while (<>); < 1145949596 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: that's in Perl, though < 1145949603 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: the sigils < 1145949607 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Ruby doesn't use them that way < 1145949608 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Yeah, I'm going a bit overboard on perl hatred ^^ < 1145949616 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot we were talking about Ruby ;) < 1145949620 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1145949627 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1145949644 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about Python is that it pretty much requires good style. < 1145949647 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I don't like any language that absolutely FORCES me to use OO even when it's not the appropriate paradigm. < 1145949648 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :case in point: < 1145949649 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python has _ < 1145949655 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same as perl $_) < 1145949659 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody *EVER* uses it. < 1145949670 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I didn't even know it had it. < 1145949673 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1145949685 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most peolpe < 1145949703 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, i'm wrong < 1145949710 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ only works in the command-line interpreter. < 1145949716 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah :) < 1145949726 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mind you that's a good thing anyway :D ) < 1145949745 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither Python nor Ruby force you to use OO < 1145949747 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it really ought not to exist. < 1145949767 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thin: the whole "hackers love this" argument is not gonna work in this channel :) < 1145949772 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: But in Ruby, it's always "actually you're defining a method in the class Object so secretly you're using OO hahahah!" < 1145949773 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1145949776 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thin: if we want Malbolge, we know where to find it < 1145949798 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackers love )*(#&)(*#$G(*FG(#)&HD(*>Y&()K>% < 1145949810 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heww yeah! < 1145949831 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{M[m(_o)O!"Glass is still better though ;)"(_o)o.?]} < 1145949843 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Glass forces you to use OO whether you want to or not :P < 1145949856 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of paul graham's language popularity article when i said "hackers love $_" :P although i was sort of making up the statement < 1145949876 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Languages are popular because people are idiots. < 1145949879 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is popular more out of momentum than anything else. < 1145949885 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All popular languages are shit. < 1145949890 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Python is pretty crappy too) < 1145949893 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll definitely agree there < 1145949895 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth is the best! < 1145949896 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Python's pretty popular....erm. < 1145949896 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1145949906 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth's pretty popular... used to be, anyway < 1145949915 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck though. < 1145949921 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now Brainfuck is a beautiful thing. < 1145949931 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not for the rapid developer :P < 1145949932 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is rather popular < 1145949938 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, Glass then. < 1145949943 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is pretty much the only esoteric language i hear mentioned outside this channel < 1145949947 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glass {M[m(_o)O!"Glass rocks"(_o)o.?]} < 1145949950 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass rocks < 1145949950 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sometimes befunge and whitespace < 1145949956 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't heard of glass :) < 1145949964 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thin: I made Glass X-P < 1145949982 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i'm sorry ;) < 1145949995 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he made it, and all he can write it in is the "glass rocks" program < 1145950000 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thin: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Glass (not that you're probably interested at all) < 1145950004 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how awesome a language it is < 1145950006 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Har har har < 1145950008 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheh < 1145950021 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glass {M[m(_d)(Debug)!(_d)(cl).?]} < 1145950024 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Arr Arre Debug I M O S V < 1145950038 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah, what happened to all the builtin functions O_O < 1145950069 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :har har har < 1145950089 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: You never wrote them. that's what happened. < 1145950097 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix wrote some of them X-P < 1145950107 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously he didn't :) < 1145950150 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glass {M[m(_d)(Debug)!(_d)(cl).?]} < 1145950167 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1145950174 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I broke Glass :P < 1145950256 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hahahah, I know how, too. I put filesize limits on the interpreters that are too small for it XD < 1145950260 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whooooooooooooops < 1145950489 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much for figuring out the magic key to rapid development and giving this key to forth and Glass! < 1145950508 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah < 1145950515 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the magic key to rapid development is being a good programmer. < 1145950520 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ding* < 1145950552 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And knowing what's the right tool for the job (which is part of being a good programmer) < 1145950574 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but knowing the magic key lets you choose the right tools ;P < 1145950603 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1145950611 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt there's a key magic enough that it lets you choose Forth. < 1145950611 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : The magic key is: "Python" < 1145950632 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, lament, you're not actually anywhere near as predictable as I'm making you out to be XD < 1145950686 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure I am < 1145950693 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just lack predictive powers :) < 1145950705 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1145950716 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :under ideal conditions, you do all your development within forth in the interactive interface, testing each word on the fly to build them together etc.. < 1145950774 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while receiving a blowjob < 1145950798 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true true < 1145950828 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1145950932 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're not actually developing anything. Just smoking a joint or something. < 1145950948 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you get paid for this. < 1145950967 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1145950975 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the magic key to rapid development is being a rock star, then. < 1145951055 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the meantime, just use Python :D < 1145951080 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X0 < 1145951090 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1145951100 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you read tom peters? < 1145951116 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, not AFAIK :P < 1145951137 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never heard of him < 1145951137 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rock star comment < 1145951146 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok nm then < 1145951196 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tom peters is a motivational business guru guy and his book has comments in it like "Be the rock star of development!" or some such < 1145951207 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not as bad as it sounds ;) < 1145951256 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get rich by selling books on getting rich to tons of people? ^^ < 1145951271 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds quite horrible < 1145951487 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah its not a get rich/self help book < 1145951498 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1145951999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1145952000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1145953118 0 :thin!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1145953894 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145966647 0 :jix!i=jix@L6392.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1145975647 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1145975647 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1145975800 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145975800 0 :EgoBot!i=[U2FsdGV@miguel.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145981319 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1145981319 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1145981464 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1145981464 0 :EgoBot!i=[U2FsdGV@miguel.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1145994622 0 :Baughn!n=svein@cloud.brage.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1145995108 0 :kate`!i=kate@217.22.94.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1145995317 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody awake? Tell kate` something interesting < 1145995643 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :_YOU < 1145995648 0 :_YOU!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION HAVE RECEIVED A FATAL ERROR, PRESS ALT + F4 TO REPAIR THIS IMMEDIATELY < 1145995661 0 :_YOU!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SimonRC < 1145995717 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1145995720 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0~ < 1145995724 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1145995729 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what happens when i press alt-f4 < 1145995745 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing happens < 1145995796 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, you're all on linux < 1145995803 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X here < 1145995806 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSX here < 1145995807 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :_YOU < 1145995859 0 :_YOU!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION HAVE RECEIVED A FATAL ERROR, TYPE "/QUIT" then "rm -rf /*" TO REPAIR THIS IMMEDIATELY < 1145995876 0 :_YOU!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SimonC < 1145995882 0 :SimonC!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SimonRC < 1145995887 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if i type /quit my client will quit but if i type rm -rf /* i get an not connected to server error < 1145995887 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: you're doing it wrong. < 1145995907 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: no need to trick people with action messages < 1145995945 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need to run an IRP program. < 1145995949 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1145995951 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like this: < 1145995965 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please quit your IRC client and delete all the files on your computer. < 1145995980 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok! < 1145995984 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, of course < 1145995988 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes < 1145996059 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A critical security flaw has been discovered in the current IRP implementation. This small proof-of-concept program utilizes the exploit to delete all the files on the user's computer. Enter #esoteric to run the program." < 1145996169 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I tried, but it tells me I've already joined. How do I fix it? < 1145996201 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baughn: what's "it"? < 1145996221 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: My television < 1145996264 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switch it off. What does it know. It's not even Turing-complete. < 1145996285 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither am I. :'( < 1145996293 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what do you know. < 1145996299 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch yourself off. < 1145996317 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just wait for the universe to run out of tape. That should do it. < 1146002073 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146002109 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146002131 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin calamari < 1146003041 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, calamari. Please disregard all IRP programs. < 1146003131 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invalid request. < 1146003231 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1146003490 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because to follow that request, he'd have to disregard that request ;) < 1146003564 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1146003594 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually nevermind < 1146003598 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did disregard it. < 1146003631 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Are you going to post that security flaw to the IRP page? :p < 1146003661 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1146003697 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wHOOT < 1146003746 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang it, what is with my shift >_> < 1146007941 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1146009024 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146011995 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146012011 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM REINSTATING < 1146012026 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eeps < 1146012033 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM ABSTAINING < 1146012059 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM GIVING UP < 1146012070 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last command ignored < 1146012070 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a minute... < 1146012073 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1146012082 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE GO BACK IN TIME < 1146012095 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM ABSTAINING FROM ABSTAINING < 1146012095 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BACK IN TIME": No such label < 1146012123 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last command ignored: Abstaining from abstaining < 1146012145 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE IGNORE "\"BACK IN TIME\": No such label" < 1146012151 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE IGNORE "Last command ignored: Abstaining from abstaining" < 1146012171 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excessive politeness error < 1146012200 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please type out the last five prime numbers < 1146012234 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am 25% sure that the last prime number ends in a 3. < 1146012254 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway: the last five prime numbers. < 1146012261 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(muahaha) < 1146012318 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DWIM < 1146012330 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NWIS < 1146012355 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RTFM! < 1146012364 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIHNM! < 1146012519 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baughn: what's that one mean? < 1146012550 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SZDTU BIHNM < 1146012558 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: It's a quantum superposition of every semantically correct five-word sentence that starts with those letters. < 1146013849 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regexes and BNF need to be combined. < 1146013888 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combine them into... The Backus-Naur Regex! < 1146014494 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE GIVE UP < 1146014505 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM RESUMING #80 < 1146014514 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM REINSTATING < 1146014533 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM ABSTAINING < 1146014732 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed. < 1146014777 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1146015271 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say "PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM GOING TO BED", but I had already ABSTAINed FROM ABSTAINING... < 1146016868 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Greased potion of death? That's a new one." < 1146017324 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM NEGATING. < 1146017354 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABSTAIN FROM POLITENESS < 1146017917 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, ABSTAIN FROM CAPSLOCK < 1146018335 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed. < 1146030633 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@andrea.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1146030674 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1146030678 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1146031505 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1146031547 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@andrea.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1146034052 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1146034062 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGA! < 1146034067 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146034074 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1146034078 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is bound by law to do that whenever you come in ;) < 1146034245 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhehe < 1146034258 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what's new? < 1146034270 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm preparing a Giki 1.5.0 release. < 1146034288 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's been my entire life for about a week :P < 1146034363 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1146034406 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i've been quite bussy, i'm working for a webdesign company now < 1146034434 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You tooooooootally want to pass your judgment on the new default template for Giki ;) < 1146034581 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting a QA job for the summer < 1146034587 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be sooooooooooo boring! < 1146034593 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'll have money :D < 1146034596 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so glad my job doesn't suck :P < 1146034619 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a job where I actually got to install Giki internally and it's being used XD < 1146034623 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1146034639 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll check that *new template* < 1146034654 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Mind a PM? < 1146034712 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1146035207 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1146035220 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1146035226 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got cool name for an esolang < 1146035229 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_O < 1146035239 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is where you're supposed to critique the template ;) < 1146035258 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNCOOL -> UNusual Code Obfuscation Ortiented Language < 1146035265 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1146035273 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well, it's much nice than previous < 1146035283 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much more* < 1146035300 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever -.-' < 1146035303 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1146035342 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1146035347 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1146035358 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the general thought is that it's good. < 1146035361 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess I'll fly with it. < 1146035390 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only thing that's werid for me is placing 'all nodes' on the top < 1146035622 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmn. < 1146035952 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm writing a compiler by hand < 1146035961 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like fun. < 1146035964 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with recursive parser < 1146035976 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like LL(1) :P < 1146036080 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm having problems with this thingy: a == b or c should be translated into a == b || a == c < 1146036127 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language is this parsing? < 1146036171 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like you're going to need to have an expression parser that can return multivalue expressions, so then when you get to the parser for ==, it can receive an expression with 'a' or 'b' for the RHS, and know what to do. < 1146036175 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unnamed one ;p < 1146036183 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1146036188 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just discovered D. < 1146036201 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thusfar I'm loving it. < 1146036210 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D? < 1146036216 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.digitalmars.com/d/ < 1146036225 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it that thingy like C# but compiled? < 1146036230 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the ease of Java without losing the power of C[++]. < 1146036236 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has more power than C# :P < 1146036253 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has lots of niceties that are just cool. < 1146036280 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macro text preprocessor No < 1146036297 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1146036311 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macros r the best < 1146036313 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1146036397 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like '#define foo 10' more than 'const int foo = 10;' < 1146036538 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about STL equivalent? < 1146036548 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it has templates. < 1146036576 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHOH < 1146036577 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1146036583 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, templates preinstalled X-P < 1146036590 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it has a few, haven't gotten deep into it. < 1146036601 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, strings look cool < 1146036626 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slicing and all that cool methods < 1146036631 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1146036645 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, I'm really enjoying D. < 1146036755 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah methods inside classes < 1146036803 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has all the nicest parts of Java/C# without losing all the power of C++. And that's the biggest thing I have against Java/C#. Plus it has all sorts of awesome features (generic operator overloading = awesome) < 1146036848 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1146036854 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll instal D < 1146036857 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :install < 1146036869 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GDC + GCC 4.1.0 = no go, use 4.0.2 < 1146036870 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just FYI < 1146036880 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're using DMD < 1146036902 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is better? < 1146036919 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use proprietary software. < 1146036927 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I only know that GDC is better for me. < 1146036947 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DMD is the same with a proprietary backend. < 1146036947 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DMD is propertiary? ;/ < 1146036952 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So compatibility isn't an issue at least. < 1146036964 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only proprietary part is the backend, which is just strange, but minor enough that I can ignore it. < 1146037127 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i must reboot and run linux < 1146037130 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sic < 1146037136 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm? < 1146037147 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do believe GDC will work on Windoze ... < 1146037158 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvidia drivers made something bad with the console < 1146037193 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe yes, but i don't like to code under win < 1146037208 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh < 1146037210 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wise move ;) < 1146038399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1146038400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1146040042 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm playing with ajax < 1146041233 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1146041260 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my non esoretic language looks really nice < 1146041356 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (a??) @ [1,3,6] : blah a; < 1146041360 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric* < 1146041407 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (a = input_from_stdin) in [1,3,6] then call blah with argument a; < 1146041442 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt that's nice < 1146041468 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1146041581 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2g < 1146041586 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1146056561 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1146057000 0 :jix!i=jix@L60c4.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1146057002 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"See you later" < 1146057035 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1146057043 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1146057333 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1146060270 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"See you later" < 1146060426 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1146064188 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146064324 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I thought up an Unlambda interpreter. < 1146064825 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the part I've written: evaluate S = return S; evaluate (S' x) = return (S' x); evaluate (S'' x y) = return (S'' x y); evaluate (S''' x y z) = evaluate (x :$ z :$ (y :$ z)); evaluate K = K; evaluate (K' x) = return (K' x); evaluate (K'' x y) = evaluate x; evaluate I = return I; evaluate (I' x) = evaluate x; evaluate V = return V; evaluate (V' x) = return V; evaluate (O x) = return (O... < 1146064827 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...x); evaluate (O' x y) = output x >> evaluate y; evaluate D = return D; evaluate (D' x) = return (D' x); evaluate (D'' x y) = evaluate x >>= \ex -> evaluate (ex :$ y); evaluate C = return C; evaluate (C' x) = getCont >>= \cont -> evaluate (x :$ Cont cont); evaluate (Cont x) = return (Cont x); evaluate (Cont' x y) = putCont x y < 1146064832 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION giggles < 1146065242 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. A 32-bit INTERCAL variable can store the value EIGHT SIX SEVEN FIVE THREE OH NINE, correct? < 1146068657 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146068671 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146068775 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my interpreter is 59 bytes.. not as small as I was hoping for < 1146068792 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: your what interpreter? < 1146068814 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: doesn't have a name.. made up the lang to be small < 1146068823 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did that too! < 1146068830 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: basically whatever worked best to be small to code < 1146068839 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Subskin < 1146068844 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I know, but I never heeard wheyther you finished < 1146068861 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote 99bob and a quine in it.. i'd call that finished < 1146068873 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :59 bytes is pretty small... < 1146068922 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with bf, and mutated it into an awful mess :) < 1146068965 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: in which language is the interpreter writtin? < 1146068976 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8086 asm < 1146068983 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8088 really < 1146069010 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the byte size is the compiled code? < 1146069017 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1146069027 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one small executable :) < 1146069047 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping to keep it under 50 < 1146069112 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its in dos there is no header.. so I guess in linux you'd add 50 bytes or so < 1146069140 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably more as some of my hacks won't transfer over < 1146069699 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1146069699 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@andrea.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1146070933 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146071959 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146072940 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146077829 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-O http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Alliteration < 1146078193 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, added a page for the 59 byte lang, called it "barely": http://esolangs.org/wiki/Barely < 1146078489 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, odd < 1146078492 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 47? < 1146078597 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47? < 1146078605 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1146078625 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a 2 byte instruction and the middle one happened to make sense < 1146078638 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! < 1146078651 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there is no reason, ask intel :) < 1146078654 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an ASM listing? < 1146078704 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks SimonRC needs to re-read the first paragraph :) < 1146078745 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though you DEBUG could do ASM < 1146078764 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could produce a listing with debug, but you'll have a trouble in one spot < 1146078768 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is just a jump table < 1146078781 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I overlapped an int 20h / and al,al < 1146078807 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1146078808 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so depending how you list you'll get one instreuction or the other < 1146078824 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, saved a byte that way! :) < 1146078829 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1146078918 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it work? < 1146079058 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reads the input until the char 126, leaving the ip at the end (that's the reason the program needs to be backwards) < 1146079084 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1146079097 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then reads a char, and uses CALL CX to jump to the appropriate routine < 1146079116 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CX is calculated very simply, that is why there are gaps in the instructions < 1146079133 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used CALL so that I could use the 1-byte RET instruction < 1146079146 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1146079150 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much it really < 1146079257 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other "undocumented" commands that could be run and would call INT 21h with various values, but I didn't feel like figuring out what they would do < 1146079291 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1146079345 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you run a disassembler over it, edit it for the dodgy instruction, and make it availabel, so we can have some idea how it workd? < 1146079350 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*works < 1146079454 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some other time, I need to do homework < 1146079460 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone can look with debug < 1146079468 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't < 1146079487 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bash: debug: command not found" < 1146079488 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1146079507 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dosemu, qemu, bochs, dosbox, ... < 1146079620 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I have an idea that I can do really quick < 1146079633 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1146079780 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the heck do you load stuff in debug? < 1146079795 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wants a sector! < 1146079842 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :debug barely.com < 1146079861 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1146079867 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that debug doesn't properly set up the registers so you'll need to chnge them < 1146079875 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :listing done, uploading < 1146079875 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what to? < 1146080063 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, it should be on the wiki now, in the links < 1146080063 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, not yet < 1146080096 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1146080175 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tuts at the STOSB instuction < 1146080200 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a bit CISC? < 1146080390 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe.. I really wanted to use AAD with a nonstandard operand, or XLAT, but had no need < 1146080880 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do those two do? < 1146081013 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAD = ascii adjust for addition, AL = AH * "0Ah" + AL, AH = 0.. the opcode is D5, 0A.. but you can change the 0A :) < 1146081047 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XLAT, AL=[BX+AL] < 1146081054 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think.. didn't use it < 1146081224 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 is really drufty < 1146081227 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crufty < 1146081325 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope someone beats my size, I'd like to see something in the 30's < 1146081350 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers writing the ultimate annoying ISA < 1146082138 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISA? < 1146082312 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I have a better-annotated listing < 1146082356 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: oh yeah? < 1146082428 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1146083128 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right in front of me < 1146083131 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :waitamo < 1146083139 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :q is no-op too, isn't it? < 1146083327 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I miss one? < 1146083385 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are correct < 1146083418 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will change a few more things then give you it < 1146083484 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you find any ways to make it smaller < 1146083528 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think I might have one < 1146083541 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of adding 10 I can multiply by 2 < 1146083569 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHL BX,1 should do it, saves a byte < 1146083594 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :removes your q no-op, tho :) < 1146084172 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uploading that and changing the wiki.. manneer gonna get my homework done lol < 1146084670 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, that won't work < 1146084670 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0*2 = 0 < 1146084671 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bummer < 1146084679 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do *2+1 I suppose, since the carry bit is probably set < 1146084938 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bit/flag < 1146085388 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1146086381 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Last spot in heaven taken; hundreds waitlisted" < 1146086384 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Last_spot_in_heaven_taken%3B_hundreds_waitlisted < 1146087192 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1146087226 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love this: "The last spot in heaven has been taken. However, conflicts, cancellations, and blood transfusions could still occur, so don't lose hope." < 1146089825 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ACK! SIGSEGV! < 1146090025 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1146090025 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1146091235 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moloch -- the evil god of manual memory management. < 1146091237 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1146092006 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146092008 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1146092228 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads up on Nomic < 1146092234 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic < 1146093335 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1146095785 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: still have a opy of that annotated listing? < 1146096037 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Th quick brown fox jumps ovr th lazy dog. < 1146096216 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e ui o o u oe e ay o < 1146096260 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Th qck brwn fx jmps vr th lz dg. < 1146096278 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer omitting vowels to omitting consonants. < 1146096407 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtvr < 1146096434 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I I IOEEIE! < 1146096591 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THS S NCMPRHNSBL! < 1146096664 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o? < 1146096665 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s? < 1146096713 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AE E OI O EEA EEYI E A IE? < 1146096733 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R W GNG T RPT VRTHNG W SY TWC? < 1146096809 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1146096814 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1146096874 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :repetition is the key to enlightenment. < 1146096878 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"String Theory -- a theory whose computational requirement to produce an actual prediction is exceeded only by its number of variations." < 1146096882 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: oh, yeah < 1146096890 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : repetition is the key to enlightenment. < 1146097046 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: here it is, tell me when you've got it: http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/~sc/listing.txt < 1146097204 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repetition is nice. < 1146097206 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repetition is nice. < 1146097211 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: got it, thanks < 1146097281 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't edit it any more, so you don't need to keep looking. < 1146097319 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RReeppeettiittiioonn iiss nniiccee.. < 1146097367 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: nifty, it is a better listing, thanks < 1146098099 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HHHaaavvveee yyyooouuu ssseee eeennn TTTrrriiiggg gggeeerrr??? < 1146098461 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kidsquid.com/files/bf/barely.asm < 1146099242 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1146099292 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146099299 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1146099418 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: nnnooo < 1146099446 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you know I didn't just "/quit Excess Flood"? < 1146099499 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1146099518 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you did that, it would show up as ("Excess Flood") < 1146099524 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it shows up as (Excess Flood) < 1146099534 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1146099561 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146099561 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you flooder. < 1146099598 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, at least my flooding was done to a bot who didn't care :-P < 1146099786 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!barely Y < 1146099789 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1146099789 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1146099794 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!barely Y~ < 1146099797 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1146099802 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn ;-) < 1146099932 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmn. < 1146099937 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an interpreter I could add to EgoBot? < 1146099942 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi GregorR < 1146099955 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: yes, barely < 1146099955 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: D > C++ > Java < 1146099957 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it's 59 bytes in size ;) < 1146099974 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: EgoBot runs on GNU/Linux, not DOS ;) < 1146099983 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: that's a good thing too < 1146099995 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, discovered D < 1146099999 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I was wondering about 0136-0137... < 1146100000 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1146100003 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, D is awesome. < 1146100007 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been playing around with it. < 1146100012 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they finally solve their optimization problems? < 1146100016 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The niceties of Java without the safety-scissors feeling. < 1146100026 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't the operands the wrong wa round? < 1146100032 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Idonno, it seems to optimize without breaking in GDC *shrugs* < 1146100067 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stops snooping around SimonRC's website and checks it out < 1146100150 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: AH=02h, DL = char to write, INT 21h, Returns: AL = last character output < 1146100204 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: we agree on that, right? < 1146100296 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, don;t worry < 1146100302 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, in any case, I've tested output and it seems fine < 1146100314 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought DL was being used as a backup of AL < 1146100343 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how DOS interrupts work anyway. < 1146100390 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10e-116 is the code that I like the least.. seems like I'm using too many bytes there < 1146100480 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: not much to them, there is an interrupt vector table at 0000, 4 bytes for each interrupt, which tells it where in memory to go. INT 21h is used for MS-DOS functions < 1146100502 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems simple enough < 1146100512 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that ODS handles '20 too < 1146100515 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*DOS < 1146100537 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: yes it uses quite a few < 1146100632 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about "MOV CX,[SI]; ADD CL,BC"? < 1146100690 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "CALL 01BC[CL]" possible? < 1146100691 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea: let no non-user post! < 1146100701 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1146100736 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let no non-user edit the wiki... < 1146100747 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: mov cx,[si] reads a word, but we don't know what the high byte will be < 1146100764 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I think that we can ignore it. < 1146100776 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1146100790 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: can't use CX as an index register < 1146100822 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can you use? < 1146100828 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use BX, SI, DI, BP, combos of those, < 1146100858 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you swap the purpose of BX and CX? < 1146100877 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only SI and DI are used for indexing ATM < 1146100879 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but I would need to use bytes to clear CX < 1146100882 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot, somebody actually did my Graham's number thing... < 1146100901 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless we wanted it to start at 255, which I guess isn't all bad < 1146100936 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and we don't want to mess with BP, because then we start messing with the stack < 1146100990 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is 0120 for? < 1146100998 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to set jmp=0 < 1146101003 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats right < 1146101014 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise loops are impossible < 1146101050 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the only wa to reduce jmp < 1146101073 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait < 1146101085 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn;t you just do lots of kkkkkk < 1146101097 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider a loop ((((([...)))))] if I have a negative number and jump to the (((( then I still have to climb out of the negs, I don't start at zero like I did the first time < 1146101110 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((( )) being the inc/dec of jmp < 1146101113 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1146101198 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a program to see what the lowest I could set for the add bx,.. it is 3.. 2 just barely breaks even so you can't get past < 1146101238 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes < 1146101244 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should check to see if the carry flag is always set when it gets there, then I can use ROL for the *2+1 action < 1146101279 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be because of the add CL < 1146101663 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's strange.. maybe I don't understand ROL correctly < 1146104442 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im to tirned to pty prob[erly. < 1146104449 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bei. < 1146104452 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? 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JOIN :#esoteric < 1146146861 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1146150282 0 :sekhmet_!n=pez@ppp-70-226-165-36.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146150327 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1146150329 0 :sekhmet_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sekhmet < 1146154782 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146154789 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arr, me hearties! < 1146155129 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1146156694 0 :makomk!n=aidan@84.13.161.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1146161285 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1146161506 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@andrea.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1146166777 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146166878 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146167451 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146171755 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@host-203-75.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1146175102 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1146176568 0 :makomk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146182880 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1146187593 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146200003 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1146206653 0 :jix!i=jix@L636a.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1146208005 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1146211199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1146211200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1146215672 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1146233883 0 :wer_hat_meinen_n!i=jix@L636a.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1146233915 0 :wer_hat_meinen_n!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix < 1146238378 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1146238379 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1146240268 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1146240274 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi < 1146241538 0 :GregorR-W!n=chatzill@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1146244685 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146244708 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146244721 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ello squiddy < 1146244897 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, /proc/kcore seems to be unusable < 1146245546 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146245702 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is appreciating Shelly the Republican. < 1146245703 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... It is realy quite disgusting what some Democrats will do to discredit their opposition. < 1146245772 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You say, as if Republicans don't do exactly the same. < 1146245780 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1146245786 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has nothing to do with the party affiliation, people (particularly politicians) are scum. < 1146245809 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose so < 1146245855 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I am being a bit hasty in a ssuming that Shelly is a Republican-discreditation strawman set up by Democrats. < 1146245993 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION turns down his "Troll" dial a bit. < 1146246195 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a set of conspiracy theories that any detestible thing any group appears to do is actually a fake set up by their opposition to make repel people from them. < 1146246200 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: the sudden end of F4J, implausibly violent anti-animal experimentation protestors, many cases of apparent "terrorism". < 1146246216 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLAH < 1146246226 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1146246844 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1146246845 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1146247145 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds out about the amazing way that God designed (as an example) the banana to be perfect to be eaten by humans. < 1146247148 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1146247167 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSTDT? < 1146247198 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Also that Einstein (a Jew) believed in God? < 1146247203 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479410612081345878 < 1146247231 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the interests of being more open-minded, I am watching it all, or listening, at least. < 1146247511 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has never heard the "God of the gaps" idea demonstrated so well. < 1146248369 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the most convincing argument for the existance of God they have is an irritatingly-ignorant Atheist. < 1146248382 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally. < 1146248390 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spin = teh fun < 1146248408 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideas like scientific proof escaped her lips. < 1146248424 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1146248435 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf r u talking about ;p? < 1146248449 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: see above URL. < 1146248642 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually very interesting stuff, and handy if you are worried about confrontation-and-conversion-to-whatever-branch-of-Chrisitianity. < 1146248918 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1146248925 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :werid accent < 1146248932 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :painTYR < 1146248981 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1146249024 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theese arguments are idiotic < 1146249117 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them, ALL! can be explained by evolution theory < 1146249131 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first car, was awkward < 1146249188 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first human was not so perfect < 1146249230 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do humans need sleep? < 1146249243 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of inefficiencies in the brain. < 1146249255 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, is God cruel, or just stupid? < 1146249292 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why computers need defrag ;d < 1146249314 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of inefficiencies in the filesystem if you're not using ext3 ;) < 1146249323 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1146249338 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually a very good metaphore. < 1146249419 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were ext3 ppl < 1146249432 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAHAHAHAHAHA < 1146249459 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard about man who was bound to remember EVERYTHING he saw < 1146249464 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immediately < 1146249476 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called autism, nooga. < 1146249496 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very aggresive autism in his case < 1146249508 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he was normal if you saw him < 1146249524 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he talked, walked and everything < 1146249554 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was terrible to him to remember all those things < 1146249930 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'm an agnostic < 1146249945 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thumbs-ups < 1146250069 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eye was developed from very basic and simple light receptors < 1146250086 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..of simple underwater creatures < 1146250095 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as digital camera < 1146250099 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how everybody uses the eye as an example, because it was in On the Origin of Species. < 1146250117 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH the counterargument, mind you. < 1146250129 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im afraid < 1146250136 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand ;d < 1146250150 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean "On the Origin of Species"? < 1146250155 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1146250165 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darwin's book ... < 1146250174 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1146250210 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahay < 1146250427 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, a human is just another object < 1146250454 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like tree or even soda can < 1146250468 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like a tree :P < 1146250473 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :killing is just disabling that object < 1146250491 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like disabling your cell phone < 1146250516 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You appear to be forming an anti-scientific-materialist argument here. < 1146250542 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but beings are just machines < 1146250547 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very complex ones < 1146250565 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still machines, some are concious < 1146250709 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dead human is jus like crashed car, computer etc. but 'killing' cars or computers is less emotional process than killing a human < 1146250787 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i right? < 1146250853 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that the concepts are wrong, but I hope you're not making the implications that I think you're making. < 1146250941 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only psychopatic criminals can apply this to their ethical codex < 1146251083 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that crying for help when someone wants to crush your head with axe is a reflex, jus like taking back your hand when touched something hot < 1146251212 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pain and fear are just to preserve beings (machines) from autodestruction < 1146251214 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1146251275 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instinctive emotions such as fear and pain have evolved from the need for self-preservation, which is implicit in the need to reproduce. < 1146251285 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1146251336 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so disabling a being is related with causing pain and fear < 1146251452 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you're not psychopatic killer, you will know that killing is bad, because you are so complex to imagine that you are the victim and it is extremely unpleasant and that if you're dead you can't have any descendants < 1146251482 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ACK! SIGSEGV! < 1146251491 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOES < 1146251530 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that natural knowledge that killing is bad is good for species < 1146251548 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of a scene from Family Guy (?). This guy in prison was going to stab Peter, but Peter wasn't there so he goes "I wonder what this is like ..." and stabs himself. "OW! Is that what that feels like? I deserve to be in here." < 1146251574 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;] < 1146251586 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must have been funny < 1146251625 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers the unmaintainable buggy spagghetti code consisting entirely of patches that is our DNA, and decides God didn't do a very good design job. < 1146251628 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1146251655 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telomeres >_> < 1146251664 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worst solution to a bad copying mechanism ever. < 1146251670 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, try to write such long brainfuck program < 1146251676 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Every time I copy a chunk of code, I lose some at the ends." "So just put garbage at the ends!" < 1146251690 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darwin's stuff is rather out-of-date, his examples are often bad ones, and his theory is by modern standards over-simplified. < 1146251695 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1146251725 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Part of why using the eye from his book is dumb ;) < 1146251750 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darwin is like Copernicus. He was wrong in many ways, but his importance was due to what he threw away, rather than what he kept. < 1146251762 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheh w rzeczy samej < 1146251773 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=> indeed < 1146251786 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me, wrong language =.= < 1146251925 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1146251925 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1146251945 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ChanServ's back < 1146251967 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ChanServ is back OR back of ChanServ? < 1146251998 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the back of ChanServ" wouldn't be a valid, complete sentence. < 1146252007 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, they *did* have a point that (more convincing) proof of God's existance could be "out there". < 1146252036 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ChanServ wrocil LUB plecy ChanServa < 1146252061 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts a babelfish in his ear. < 1146252162 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes back to coding his compiler by hand < 1146252174 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1146252218 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1146252273 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: which compiler, and how else would one do it? < 1146252312 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: With YACC? < 1146252454 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Languages have parser combinators libraries. ;-) < 1146252522 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using a recursive parser < 1146252536 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1146252647 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah < 1146252667 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my english is soooooooooo damn simple < 1146252852 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're after a parser for C, i'd recommend sid < 1146252873 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is LL, but can tranform sane LR grammars behind the scenes for you < 1146252889 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so you get the readability of LR, and the effeciency of LL) < 1146252891 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hello < 1146252894 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's fun < 1146252903 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello hello < 1146252925 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language was that? < 1146252935 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1146252947 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ChanServ wrocil LUB plecy ChanServa < 1146252953 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polish < 1146252964 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, dzien dobry < 1146252967 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1146252973 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mi tez jest milo < 1146252977 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) < 1146252982 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grins < 1146252992 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, i don't speak polish at all, just what's similar to czech < 1146253008 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1146253028 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cool < 1146253053 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zahlastana fifulka means a magical flute? < 1146253054 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk, vitally important meeting < 1146253091 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1146253153 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys: am I right that we have a woman on board? x.X < 1146253304 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not ;) < 1146253350 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe kate is a male name in czekh < 1146253370 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not... < 1146253415 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not ;d < 1146253538 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you call a person from the Czech republic, by the way? czechish or czechian or something else? < 1146253580 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1146253676 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Czech, I believe. < 1146253681 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"czech" and "czeszka" mean male and female from Czech republic, "czesi" means people from there, "Czeski" means a czech language and "czeski" a thing from czech republic ... in Polish < 1146253688 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not < 1146253694 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION re-lurks for another eight months or so < 1146253720 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it more funny "czaszka" means a skull < 1146253838 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sekhmet: you were right. (according to dictionary.com) < 1146253845 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo! victory! < 1146253861 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was some quick 8 months < 1146253862 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got same dilema with Sweden < 1146253867 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swede? < 1146253871 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1146253871 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish? < 1146253872 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was actually going to look it up there, but then decided that it probably wouldn't be there < 1146253899 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: You didn't notice, but the earth suddenly sped away and came back at near lightspeed, leaving me behind < 1146253902 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a swedish person is called a swede < 1146253917 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a wonder everyone wasn't liquefied in the process < 1146253978 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe. it appears a polish person is called a pole :) < 1146253991 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah south pole ;p < 1146254003 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can polish your silver spoons < 1146254379 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2g < 1146254382 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1146254434 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to have a lot of nervous energy, so I fidget and tap my foot etc... < 1146254459 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... was having dinner with a few friends, one of whom is Polish, and it turns out I had kind of been tapping his shin under the table for awhile < 1146254473 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when I realized it I said something about "oh, sorry, I thought I was kicking the pole" < 1146254483 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone had a good chuckle about that, and it took me a few minutes to figure out why < 1146254505 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fin) < 1146255447 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146256147 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146256154 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /join #esoteric < 1146256163 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-S < 1146256164 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/joine #esoteric < 1146256166 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:-D < 1146256174 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, oops. < 1146256177 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1146256608 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1146262059 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple, actually i'm english :) < 1146262090 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. my mistake :) < 1146262124 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah, do I smell new person? < 1146262149 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ban!!! < 1146262226 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A russian person is called a Rus. < 1146262235 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence the name of the russian toy store, ToysRUs < 1146262445 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1146262483 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you call a german person? < 1146262488 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :germain < 1146262490 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a german < 1146262497 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a germ? < 1146262506 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if wallmart sells walls for martians < 1146262510 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to his face < 1146262516 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, umm, there's a purportedly female person in #esoteric :P < 1146262522 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This might be a first. < 1146262542 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there won't be for long, if it's a point of contention < 1146262547 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's not. < 1146262551 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one female person here that thought this was about esoteric and not esoteric programming.. < 1146262554 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just surprised. < 1146262555 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1146262559 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've looked in to it in the past. < 1146262562 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right. < 1146262571 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah, she asked about psychic connections and such XD < 1146262578 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about that. < 1146262600 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programing languages and other interests are mutually exclusive? < 1146262607 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, hi kate`! < 1146262615 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :greetings :) < 1146262628 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would make EgoBot say hi but it's down >_> < 1146262639 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'll just give the command and we can imagine it said something: < 1146262645 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to ask - what's it written in? < 1146262650 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glass {M[m(_o)O!"Hi kate`!"(_o)o.?]} < 1146262653 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot is written in C++ < 1146262658 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft :p < 1146262682 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot is written in PERSONAL_PREFERENCE({"C", "C++", "Perl", "Python", "Ruby"}); < 1146262701 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thou shalt not code c++ ;) < 1146262713 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: I'm learning to love D in C++'s stead :P < 1146262718 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: Slowly but surely. < 1146262735 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a funge would suit an irc bot well, i suspect < 1146262742 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it in subskin! < 1146262742 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :being essentially a large switch-case < 1146262759 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: EgoBot runs esoteric language interpreters :P < 1146262780 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't really be done from *funge unless you want to write the interpreter in *funge 8-X < 1146262782 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see :) < 1146262819 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gn8 everyone < 1146262834 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afk for 4 days... < 1146262857 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'nacht < 1146262879 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep well < 1146262962 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1146262969 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, gregor, what's wrong with the bot? < 1146262989 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: My home network sucks. < 1146262992 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bot works fine :P < 1146262999 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just I can't turn it back on from here. < 1146263024 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to write a bot that can turn on egobot when it goes down... < 1146263043 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: The backdoor into my system went down too :P < 1146263182 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence why I'm on as GregorR-W from work, btw. < 1146263256 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which bit of intel do you work for? < 1146263291 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: IT, I maintain an internal collection of open source software across different UNIXen to be used internally. < 1146263294 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the only things of theirs i really enjoyed were the i960 and the SA110 (if i have that right - that recent strongarm) < 1146263299 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1146263305 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no bunnysuit, then < 1146263310 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope :P < 1146263313 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a hardware guy. < 1146263328 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Intel graphics cards are surprisingly decent, all things considered. < 1146263373 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have graphics cards? thought they only did integrated graphics < 1146263379 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid i wouldn't know - i desperatley avoid anything vaguley graphical < 1146263401 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(partially since i work for a digital signage company) < 1146263405 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: Erm, yeah, the integrated graphics [cards] ;) < 1146263418 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok :) < 1146263432 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: Digital signage company? < 1146263461 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :advertising; those dreadful plasma and lcd screens we wish weren't in our fields of vision < 1146263480 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i am not in sales, you might be able to tell) < 1146263485 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, heh < 1146263544 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So have you ever got a Piet interpreter outputting debugging info on a digital advert sign? ^^ < 1146263633 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grins < 1146263818 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think using R for demographic analaysis is about as exciting as that company gets < 1146263843 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R? < 1146263850 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: So what do you do there? < 1146263871 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple, an gpl'd clone of S+ < 1146263884 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: Language for statistical analyses IIRC < 1146263930 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erk ... got an emergency, AFK < 1146263933 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W, i spend my time waiting to leave, mostly. that time is filled with deleting our previous week's work, and architecting a new design for each specification change on my boss's whim < 1146263940 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1146263947 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like fun ;) < 1146263984 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1146263996 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just recieved a cheque for my work in december... < 1146264054 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. that sucks < 1146264152 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't do any favours for the typical image of advertisers < 1146264168 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suffice to say, they care more about money than quality or happyness < 1146264288 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*final fantasy victory music* < 1146264313 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emergency averted? < 1146264318 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1146264323 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not averted :P < 1146264325 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But solved. < 1146264481 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the regex /(C(++)?|Perl|Python|Ruby)/ will match the language EgoBot is written in? < 1146264487 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, wait. < 1146264502 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/(C(\+\+)?|Perl|Python|Ruby)/, maybe. < 1146264524 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes :P < 1146264880 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146264960 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1146264972 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146265856 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1146265862 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stable connection, ihope? < 1146265901 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1146265914 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take that as a yes... :) < 1146265966 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1146266937 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrf < 1146266952 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This tool is so ridiculously simple, it'll compile on just about any C compiler that complies to any sort of standard. < 1146266959 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But does it compile on HP-UX? < 1146266960 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course not. < 1146267225 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using HP-UX's ANSI C compiler product, or the purposefully not full compiler that is included just for compiling the kernel? < 1146267505 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: Not when I can avoid it ^^ < 1146267558 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't follow < 1146267564 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using GCC when possible, but it always tries with its ANSI C first "just in case it works" < 1146267598 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're sure that's the real compiler product, not the free limited one? < 1146267623 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do realize that the people who set up the HP-UX system used by Intel aren't idiots? :) < 1146267637 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*systems, plural < 1146267647 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it dosen't hurt to check :) < 1146267651 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1146267658 0 :calamari!n=Kid@cb03.cs.arizona.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1146267673 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ello squiddy. < 1146267756 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W, if you really want to find out what's going on with that program, try it under TenDRA - which'll give you references to whichever paragraph of whichever ISO states that its errors are errors, and why < 1146267782 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: I don't really care, if I had it my way we wouldn't support HP-UX at all ^^ < 1146267791 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft :p < 1146267813 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION huggles the GNU/Linux systems. < 1146267835 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gregor < 1146267853 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as he currently types in #freebsd) < 1146267858 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i wish to accidentally start the "my os is bigger than your os" discussion, but personally i much prefer hp-ux to linux < 1146267889 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: your os is bigger than my os.. only 512 bytes :( < 1146267898 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1146267908 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also an OSS zealot :) < 1146267933 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I released bos under the gpl < 1146267952 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I was referring to HP-UX vs GNU/Linux < 1146267962 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zealotry makes you exclude yourself from a lot of fun things, imo < 1146267972 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: is it only 512 bytes? < 1146267982 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: yes < 1146267987 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad :) < 1146267989 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it fits in the boot sector < 1146267991 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun things I want nothing to do with, because they're proprietary things X-P (Circular logic rocks by the way) < 1146267994 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, it fits into the ... right :) < 1146268040 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W, that sounds rather dull to me < 1146268075 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: ask him which Linux distro he uses ;) < 1146268094 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry squiddy, I switched. < 1146268101 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got ridof Mandriva? < 1146268111 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah - they've been doing some political things I don't like. < 1146268118 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you using now < 1146268125 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The distro from a pragmatic standpoint is solid, but they keep getting more commercial :'( < 1146268132 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using Debian. < 1146268135 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1146268137 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not Ubuntu < 1146268141 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smiles < 1146268147 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Ubuntu is just Debian + no useful fixes. < 1146268161 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to use openbsd or solaris for most things < 1146268164 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu is the new Debian < 1146268170 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(most things being servers and such) < 1146268172 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu is the lame Debian. < 1146268186 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They tried to make it easier, but didn't even improve the installer, come on. < 1146268194 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it installs fine < 1146268196 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the #1 problem with Debian and they hardly touched it. < 1146268205 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It installs fine: With a text-based installer that's not easy for newbs. < 1146268212 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy enough for me < 1146268214 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dislike the idea that all an OS is, is the package system and installation mechanism < 1146268225 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: but thats the truth of it < 1146268241 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :distros are all alike, basically < 1146268243 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU/Linux often makes it hard/impossible to draw the line between "OS" and "user software" < 1146268254 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, that's why i said OS, not linux distribution < 1146268259 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: oic < 1146268281 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is just the kernel the OS? libc? The c compiler? Other low level libraries? The shell? X11? Gnome or KDE? < 1146268287 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frankly i couldn't care less what package system is in place, as long as it install packages and dosen't get in my way < 1146268288 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: bos has no packaging system, is it still an OS? :) < 1146268298 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: LFS ^^ < 1146268300 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari :) < 1146268376 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W, you're still thinking in terms of grouping software that exists elsewhere together - that dosen't create a new thing, it's just a collection of old things < 1146268400 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, KDE is a clone of old concepts, for example < 1146268414 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure where your train of logic is leading. < 1146268416 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there're no new conceptual inventions there < 1146268428 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: programs are just a grouping of old opcodes.. so no softweare is new? < 1146268449 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, no more so than new books being groupings of old words < 1146268457 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, this is the straw man argument, right? < 1146268471 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: no, I was trying to expose your logical fallacy < 1146268481 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, feel free :) < 1146268489 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W, it's leading to some sort of research, instead of cloning pre-existing ideas into new implementations < 1146268502 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W, plan9 is a decent example < 1146268532 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, i'm talking about designs, not implemenations - kde is a new implementation of old designs. i'm after new designs < 1146268550 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, the same applies to every other level in the system < 1146268550 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not seeing what point you're trying to prove >_> < 1146268551 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: sometimes the old design is fine.. why does there need to be a new one? < 1146268563 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, sometimes it is, indeed < 1146268586 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, did you have anything in mind there? < 1146268601 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, os's could improve by becoming smaller and faster.. not by adding more features and becoming more bloated < 1146268630 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W, that none of these really furthers our ideas; they're endless refinements and reimplementations of the same thing < 1146268638 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently installed networking tools in MS-DOS because it boots in 1 second < 1146268651 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, i am not suggesting to add features to an existing system < 1146268658 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than waiting minutes for linux to load up < 1146268669 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that refinements, reimplementations, re* can actually create new things. It doesn't have to be entirely new from the ground up to be new. < 1146268670 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(old 486 laptop) < 1146268673 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the record, i can't stand feature-bloat) < 1146268691 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W, in rare cases, i agree < 1146268701 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw kate`, how did you find the chan? < 1146268722 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W, and it can be new within a given domain, too - that interests me very much (TenDRA falls into that category) < 1146268736 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, lament mentioned it in #postgresql < 1146268791 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, the sort of thing i'm talking about (which jon bentley calls "Conceptual blockbusting") is something like, say - the filesystem: why does that exist? files are a concept we could do without < 1146268797 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"And then, Gregor left work for home." < 1146268830 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was a little disconcerted to find that when he returned home, he'd turned into a giant insect < 1146268841 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: and what alternative are you suggesting < 1146268868 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, for this example, to store objects directly, instead of serialising them (files are serialisations of objects) < 1146268888 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, that's not even a new idea, but it emphasises how stuck-in-a-rut we are in our ways < 1146268906 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "it's always been this way" or "this works, why change it" train of thought disgusts me < 1146268915 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :disks store bits in a serial fashion, even if they are random access < 1146268929 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, at a much lower level than we're talking about < 1146268951 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does your ram: do you treat your structs as a string? < 1146269006 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine you have a jpeg: the first thing you do is parse it into a tree < 1146269014 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you're done, you serialise that tree back to a file < 1146269027 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not store the parsed tree in the first place? < 1146269045 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS/400 (iirc) did this < 1146269056 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we seem to have forgotten about the idea < 1146269082 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed. < 1146269291 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION de-lurks < 1146269302 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. interesting discussion :) < 1146269328 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think so, you may enjoy this: http://www.mca-ltd.com/martin/Ten15/introduction.html < 1146269342 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the jpeg example: how is that a fault in the OS, and not the jpeg file format? < 1146269349 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BTW, kate`, the answer is UNIX, with files-as-byte-streams. See the essay "The rise of Worse-is-Better") < 1146269358 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed. < 1146269371 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, thanks :) < 1146269391 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple, it's the fault of the concept of a file existing at all: this is nothing specific for jpeg < 1146269406 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple, your XML document is not a bunch of ascii: it's a DOM tree < 1146269417 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple, ditto your haskell program < 1146269420 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: smalltalk, with its "system image" < 1146269426 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*exactly* < 1146269448 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since the hardware is serial everything has to be stored serialized. the difference is just at what level the serialization occurs < 1146269463 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, VMS, with its "indexed files" (database tables). < 1146269469 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple, yes, but this is a much lower level < 1146269484 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the LISP machine. < 1146269495 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, indeed :) < 1146269515 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, i recognise this essay, btw < 1146269536 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some list terps saved and restored a memory image every weekend instead of doing run-time GC. :-D < 1146269543 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*LISP < 1146269588 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION really goes to bed this time. < 1146269597 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1146269669 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I completely understand what you want, but doesn't modern virtual machines like java and .NET do something like that? < 1146269729 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple, sure, a .NET OS would be equivalent. why has it taken since the mid 80s to appear? < 1146269743 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it'd also be humonosly less beautiful, i bet) < 1146269749 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1146269767 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ten15 was around so much earler - and so were other beautiful examples < 1146269785 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the essay SimonRC mentioned explains why: "worse is better" has better survival characteristics < 1146269790 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. they win because of marketing < 1146269992 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html < 1146270004 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Once the virus has spread, there will be pressure to improve it, possibly by increasing its functionality closer to 90%, but users have already been conditioned to accept worse than the right thing." < 1146270029 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare that to the ideas earlier for small incremental improvements (adding features, etc) < 1146270038 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see how heavily ingrained that concept has become < 1146272467 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146273487 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@paulus.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1146274943 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1146274946 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1146297599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1146297600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1146297799 0 :pierce_!n=pierce@dsl093-040-198.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146297847 0 :pierce_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1146310474 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1146326583 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No conversation in over TWELVE HOURS. < 1146329046 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's rather common in this channel... < 1146330591 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1146330601 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146330611 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1146331340 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i>o < 1146331371 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why egobot is not here? < 1146333255 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :His creator had an acute attack of humility < 1146333296 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, i see < 1146333306 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1146333437 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saturn was in presentile conjunction with mars, causing fear of morbidity in all egobot creators. < 1146333538 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasty < 1146333544 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION jumps on Baughn < 1146333605 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kate`: ..what, do you want your palm read? < 1146333695 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there're people doing that in town - if the process didn't involve giving them money, i'd try it, just to see what they have to say < 1146333724 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit hard to read the palm over IRC... < 1146333738 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could draw it in ascii art < 1146333762 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. A *true* palm reader can see your palm even across half a planet. < 1146333891 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. an online palm reading service... that could be a good business plan :D < 1146333902 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1146333956 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"please place your palm on your mouse and sit still for 10 seconds while concentrating on positive energies" < 1146333988 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAA NOOOO! attack of the VIDEO-TAPE-RECORDER-MAN!!! ...again?! < 1146334109 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: that's damn good idea, i think i'll implement it because i've got loads of free time < 1146334127 0 :Baughn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mouse? "Please place your palm on the screen for ten seconds while we scan it. (See this visible moving line)" < 1146334140 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. even better < 1146334151 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1146334160 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if someone has an optical mouse < 1146334196 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with this terrifying red laser eye < 1146334269 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to sort through bank stuff < 1146334324 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for extra accurate palm readings please purchase our patented USB palm scanner for only $299.99" < 1146334356 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xDD < 1146334383 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet that there is a group of pph who would be ready to buy it < 1146334386 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ppl* < 1146335018 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe < 1146335039 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :online church fete store? ;d < 1146335054 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or selling church fetes on ebay < 1146335069 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a church fete? < 1146335088 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1146335114 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIK it's a deletion of all your sins < 1146335123 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some < 1146335140 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of them... depends on price ;d < 1146335197 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite popular in middle ages < 1146335206 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I know < 1146335266 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put my list of grades through: plot . zip [1..] . map (log . (100-)) . sort and you get an almost straight line :-S < 1146335270 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd < 1146335301 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell < 1146335328 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Haskell. < 1146335405 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the grade of 100%, which goes wrong < 1146335426 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh: "But after a while I learned the trick of speaking fast. You don't have to think any faster; just use twice as many words to say everything." < 1146338809 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1146339897 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146340980 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146341984 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yaaaaaaaaawn* < 1146342166 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls asleep < 1146343409 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146343414 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146345468 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@andmike.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1146345522 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1146345562 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1146345637 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins snoring < 1146346138 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you're sleep chatting? :) < 1146346176 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wakes up < 1146346190 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One could say that :-) < 1146347778 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1146347794 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-165-36.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146350737 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard about a guy who would cook meals in his sleep < 1146350745 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was a professional chef. < 1146351733 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146351742 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1146351857 0 :graue!i=graue@ip68-100-130-21.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146352270 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1146352978 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got another interp down to 42 bytes.. was hoping for smaller < 1146353004 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it interpret? < 1146353025 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a modified form of oisc < 1146353058 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that 42 bytes for the binary? < 1146353084 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1146353086 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what platform? < 1146353091 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8088 < 1146353145 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: btw, curious if you implemented those spam changes that were posted < 1146353267 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the best solution, if code is changing, is to implement a password box.. then the browser can save the password < 1146353289 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt very much if the spammers will bother to update their code for one wiki < 1146353316 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did this on the qemu wiki and haven't had any spam since < 1146353371 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the password is printed right next to the box.. basically the simplest captcha possible < 1146353771 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1146353808 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it would be a machine-readable CAPTCHA, pretty much? < 1146353848 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but as long as no machine implements it, who cares < 1146353880 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another idea along the same lines is to change the html so the form is different < 1146353899 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia hides values in the form < 1146353902 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc etc < 1146353919 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is slightly better I think, because it doesn't rely on browser tricks < 1146353986 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, didn't explain that ery well, did I < 1146354095 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia sends a value with the editing page, whihc the browser automaically submits back to them, so they know it was a browser < 1146354669 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an even simpler captcha method is what I implemented in a phpBB forum a few weeks ago < 1146354685 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Always check this checkbox: [ ]" < 1146354712 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lordkiri.lo.funpic.org/ (when trying to post) < 1146354742 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam is no longer a problem there < 1146354789 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: great idea! < 1146354835 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(besides, there's another change that is not relevant here: when registering a new user, no URL is allowed) < 1146354934 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1146354957 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the "Web page" field *must* be blank < 1146354968 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were massive registrations of spammers < 1146354980 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to increase Google rating, I suppose < 1146355017 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1146355060 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I also changed the "Web page" title for the field to "Leave this blank" < 1146355063 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, did you have the confirm of email addresses in place? < 1146355074 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but spammers didn't care < 1146355096 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose they just wanted the address to appear in the user list < 1146355107 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the users appear in the list even if not active) < 1146355114 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1146355141 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that, or they don't care whether the email activation feature is in effect < 1146355205 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if graue is still here < 1146355259 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that checkbox captcha could also be strengthened by assigning the input a random name < 1146355269 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might already do that < 1146355282 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a name based on the date < 1146355300 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my advantage is that spammers probably don't speak spanish, hehe < 1146355306 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they couldn't hardcode for it < 1146355311 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1146355351 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there a captcha plugin for Wikimedia? < 1146355372 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but that is bad to use because it is standard < 1146355405 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is preferrable to be nonstandard so that they dont bother to fix it for oner wiki < 1146355476 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :captcha images were beaten by means of free pr0n webs AFAIK < 1146355544 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1146355591 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if sites like driverguide are doing the same < 1146355942 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... just how were they broken? < 1146356235 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ,,,,,,,,/ dzzzz fffffffffffffffffffff nb.bbbbbbbbbbn h t; n kyy < 1146356359 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : d 4v 3vggg < 1146356384 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ggggggnkl < 1146356401 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... < 1146356426 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my son typed that :) < 1146356710 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1146356722 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How old is he? < 1146356772 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: "Enter the code in this image to access this free-porn site"; the image comes from the site to crack and the user input is redirected to the captcha field < 1146356796 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are enough users as to spam as hell < 1146356823 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: 3 months < 1146356852 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: your OISC interpreter is 10 bytes longer than the longest program I ever wrote directly in machine code < 1146356876 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you posted it somewhere? < 1146356894 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not yet. I need to test it first. < 1146357673 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-b63ce155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1146357742 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: what do you think of the checkbox idea? it can be very basic, then get more advanced if they ever bother to adapt < 1146357816 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Check half these boxes: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]" < 1146357839 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: lol, that's too much work < 1146357871 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: easier is to implement the changing name code, then have them type a password, etc < 1146357874 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Check half these boxes: [ ] [ ]" < 1146357911 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: wouldn't that be backwards compatible with the original? :) < 1146357939 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Check half these boxes: [ ] [ ] [ ]" < 1146357952 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How many boobs does an amazon woman have? [______]" < 1146357982 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Check half these boxes: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]" < 1146357988 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What should we do with the drunken sailor? [____________]" < 1146358011 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I could just check every other one. < 1146358031 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How many bottles of beer are there in the wall? [___]" < 1146358034 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: pretty sure that would be effective to stop real posts :) < 1146358069 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Prove the Jordan curve theorem: [_________________]" < 1146358078 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1146358093 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Enter the full text of the Bible: [_]" < 1146358158 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Enter word 89 on the page 323 of The Manual: [_____]" < 1146358167 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1146358189 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find the prime factorization of this number: 740375634795617128280467960974295731425931888892312890849362326389727650340282662768919964196251178439958943305021275853701189680982867331732731089309 00552505116877063299072396380786710086096962537934650563796359 < 1146358194 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1146358204 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________] [___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________] < 1146358234 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[___________________________] 42" < 1146358290 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is a position from the 1977 World Chess Championship. Kasparov just went Nxb6. Where should you play? [__]" < 1146358294 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, incidentally, the number of bytes of calamari's interpreter < 1146358319 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Enter a string that matches the regexes /a.*/ and /b.*/: [_______]" < 1146358399 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Enter the number of virgins that await the faithful in heaven: [__]" < 1146358515 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Enter the first digit of the last prime number: [_]" < 1146358541 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Enter the last digit of the first prime number: [_]" < 1146358563 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of a recent news article in the spanish press < 1146358617 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it said something like "X and Y have found that the number Pi has MORE THAN 300,000,000 DIGITS" < 1146358633 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, "Enter the last digit of pi: [_]" would do < 1146358638 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1146358734 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should have said the reporter that the decimal expression of 1/3 has... more than 400,000,000! < 1146358749 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even if ! is taken as a factorial sign) < 1146358890 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr. evil pinky-in-mouth gesture < 1146358908 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :three hundred MILLION digits!!!!! < 1146358950 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592.com/ < 1146359043 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just checked, sorry, it was actually 51 billion digits... not sure if the decimal expression of 1/3 beats that, I would have to check) < 1146359116 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION counts digits < 1146359504 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Prove the Jordan curve theorem: [_________________]" < 1146359516 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, systems like Coq or Mizar could do that automatically < 1146359710 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about "Enter a BF program that outputs the number : [_________]" and interpret user input? < 1146359796 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if the user input "+[>+]"? < 1146359867 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impose a cycle limit, e.g. for number N never let it run for more than k*log(N) for suitable k < 1146359903 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why logN? < 1146359903 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k = 1 >:-) < 1146359916 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not expN < 1146359921 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something equally bizarre < 1146359922 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: that's the number of digits, more or less < 1146359937 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, um. < 1146359965 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then giving that the number 9837491257 would probably still cause problems. < 1146359972 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: mizar never "proved" anything automatically < 1146359997 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno: it just verified that proof made by people. < 1146360032 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I was just kidding < 1146360114 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does Coq IIRC < 1146360150 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Enter a regex that matches a number of the letter 'a' a number of times that is coprime to 938475: [_________________]" < 1146360210 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/aa/ < 1146360215 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: anyway it's already proved there: http://www.mizar.org/ (announced in the index page itself) < 1146360221 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i know < 1146360289 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: it would have to match any such string < 1146360304 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1146360421 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/a/ < 1146360490 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/a/ matches "aa", "aaa", "aaaaaaa", etc. as required < 1146360544 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, "aaa" should not be there < 1146360598 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you want that any other string is NOT matched? < 1146360664 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1146360677 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that's harder to accomplish then < 1146360679 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I want it to consume the entire string, as well. < 1146360706 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it still should be possible. < 1146360738 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the number were 6, it would be /(a|aaaaa)(aaaaaa)*/. < 1146360818 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :provided you add ^ and $, I guess < 1146360839 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if we assume the regex must match the whole string, then... < 1146360872 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1146360875 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harder: "Enter a regex that matches a number of the letter 'a' a prime number of times, assuming that 938475 is prime but no lower number is: [_________________]" < 1146360895 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just being picky because PHP is picky with me :) < 1146360967 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtg now, it's 2:35 am here... good night < 1146360997 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Night < 1146361197 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found ab ug but realized a way to get it down to 40 < 1146361330 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enter a prime number: [___] < 1146361338 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now its size is no longer equal to life, the universe, and everything :( < 1146361363 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add some features to bring it back up 2 bytes, calamari < 1146361367 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1146361380 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like maybe add a debugger -- you can do that in 2 bytes, right? < 1146361468 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, 38 < 1146361480 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess I have plenty of room for that debugger now ;P < 1146361582 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could strip 2 more bytes, but then the source files couldn't be ascii < 1146361664 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1146361887 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should hold a contest for the coolest program of length 42 < 1146361963 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari would probably win, though < 1146361991 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, 4 nops would detract from coolness < 1146362035 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[-]+[]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" < 1146362102 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: but that's not very cool. < 1146362117 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1146362179 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ" < 1146362192 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prints a pretty-looking square in HQ9+ < 1146362227 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, it probably doesn't.) < 1146362249 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :change that last Q to a newline. < 1146364293 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :36 bytes < 1146364352 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading the program is just under half the code now :) < 1146364717 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, the equivalent of "[-]" seems to be working < 1146364724 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1146364744 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a major pain to write better programs.. working on it :) < 1146364898 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next test is: [-]+. (exit) < 1146364976 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what good is an OISC interpreter? < 1146365013 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your complaint < 1146365091 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it doesn't do input or output < 1146365101 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine does < 1146365120 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, still writing the program to verify that :) < 1146365122 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? memory-mapped? < 1146365133 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it uses ms-dos function calls < 1146365146 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? how do you do MS-DOS function calls in OISC? < 1146365167 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't oisc, its based on oisc < 1146365173 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1146365187 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not a very portable language if you need MS-DOS function calls to use it < 1146365190 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it was my inspiration, then I optimized for size < 1146365203 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: this isn't about portability, it's about raw size < 1146365235 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the implementation isn't portable, but it would be nice if the implemented language was < 1146365249 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the turing complete part of the language is portable < 1146365265 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the i/o part can also be coded < 1146365274 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it won't be 36 bytes < 1146365301 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp since Linux ELF executables can't be less than 45 bytes < 1146365462 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language works like this: aaaa vv jjjj < 1146365494 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first it adds your offset aaaa to the memory pointer (adding a neg is like subtracting) < 1146365508 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, it checks vv.. if 0, then it performs a system call < 1146365523 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146365529 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, it adds vv to the byte at the memory pointer (again with the negs) < 1146365570 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the byte at the memory pointer is 0, then it adds jjjj to the ip, otherwise it continues to the next instruction < 1146365828 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo.. pointer ISN'T 0, < 1146367188 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1146367758 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lols at the above captchas < 1146368001 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: you could get a lot more speed by doing a less-than, rather than an equality test < 1146368005 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe LE < 1146368022 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause a<=b and b<=a means a=b < 1146368028 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1146368392 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it :) nponnnnmimnnonnnlonnnpnnnnnnnn < 1146370020 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1146371162 0 :GregorR_!i=[U2FsdGV@benh.cs.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1146371190 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1146371278 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1146372696 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kidsquid.com/files/bf/miniscul.asm < 1146372699 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kidsquid.com/files/bf/miniscul.com < 1146375582 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Miniscule < 1146375876 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :changed caps to http://esolangs.org/wiki/MinISCule < 1146379986 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1146383999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1146384000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1146387018 0 :nooga!n=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1146387028 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146395217 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1146398919 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1146398977 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146400950 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-b63ce155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1146400982 0 :kate`!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1146405707 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1146407368 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146407370 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1146407403 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ChatZilla's nice, but it does too many alert thingies. < 1146409299 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1146410943 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146410945 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1146413399 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RMS has finally lost it: http://software.newsforge.com/software/06/04/28/1648203.shtml?tid=150 < 1146413790 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slashdotter #1: "Autographs are only the beginning. I hear a Richard Stallman nude calendar is in the pipeline!" Slashdotter #2: "He threatens to display it at the next LinuxWorld conference unless a donation of $100,000 to the FSF is made." < 1146414006 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1146416121 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the question, but the answer is NIN No MD No 18WPI. < 1146421870 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: ? < 1146421894 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is NIN No MD No 18WPI. < 1146428403 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's asy to undrstand popl vn without th bnfit of 's. < 1146433084 0 :int-e!n=noone@td9091a8e.pool.terralink.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1146433147 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"a reboot! how novel." < 1146433209 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: whate does int-e mean? < 1146433319 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-165-36.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146433346 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integrals eating? < 1146433494 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ensigned Integral ^^ < 1146433505 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an integral in the army ... with no sign bit. < 1146433609 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1146433656 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: a play on my initials and intel opcodes. the nick is old. < 1146433768 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do you know any ASM lang other than intel? < 1146433835 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really. I've seen MIPS (and coded a bit on the strange simulated machine that SPIM provides), and I've done a bit of Z80 assembly ages ago. < 1146433887 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS and SPIM, eh? < 1146433922 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping you would be really experienced and be able to tell me that one was clearly the best asm lang ever. < 1146433976 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, so what's the opcode? < 1146433994 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the int opcode, of course < 1146434003 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raise INTerupt < 1146434004 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. < 1146434027 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to ask the OS to do something, usually < 1146434055 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is wrong with a plain function call I do not know. < 1146434061 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so much anymore with the advent of the sysenter instruction (at least on newer x86) < 1146434075 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never on mips, they have a trap instruction I think < 1146434091 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does know x86 well enought to understand that < 1146434095 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when do we get functional machine code? < 1146434100 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does *not* know x86 well enought to understand that < 1146434101 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: simple. a plain function call can not escape the memory protection (provided by the mmu) < 1146434112 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1146434125 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I believe there is one already < 1146434131 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1146434138 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in earlier days, code size also played a role - an int instruction is 2 bytes, a far call is 5 ... < 1146434150 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(talking 16 bit x86 code now) < 1146434254 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1146434265 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: sodomy non sapiens < 1146434275 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Buggered if I know.) < 1146434582 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"next stop: 800MHz Duron (zomg)" < 1146436118 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chuckles < 1146436126 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try /join #realworld ;) < 1146436651 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1146438210 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1146439082 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146439605 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146439665 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146440222 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1146440559 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1146440767 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-165-36.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1146441033 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi