00:01:11 jix: help me with scheme-omega! 00:03:00 Is there an m-pineapple? 00:03:36 I know someone had mentioned melon, and I think orange, earlier, but not pineapple 00:04:07 there will be a pineapple if you help me with scheme-omega 00:04:25 jix: that would be cool 00:07:28 lament: I don't know enough about scheme-omega to help. I'm not good with cardinality 00:07:44 jix: yes, that would be cool. 00:07:50 this is not really a cardinality question 00:09:26 the question is: is there any difference between providing and not provinding a Homega instruction in scheme-omega? 00:10:05 scheme-omega already has instructions Hn for all natural numbers n 00:10:28 therefore it can halt-check any scheme-n 00:10:49 but it has to know in advance which Hn to choose 00:11:40 H-omega would be a single instruction capable of halt-checking ANY scheme-n 00:12:09 well this way the program is always a valid scheme-n progra 00:12:20 so it isn't something better than that scheme-n 00:12:21 no 00:12:26 ah 00:12:28 you can generate the instruction on the fly 00:12:30 :) 00:12:33 ah ok 00:12:45 i'm sure you can do something like that in Scheme 00:14:59 i thought originally that you would need the Homega instruction 00:15:07 but really, you don't need Homega to interpret Brainhype 00:15:32 you just count how many levels of braces the brainhype program has 00:15:39 and use the corresponding Hn 00:17:19 (to make this easier, the 'n' should be an argument to H) 00:17:32 (so the H instruction would be (H ```)) 00:20:04 errrrrrrrrrrr 00:20:05 NO 00:20:24 lol 00:20:26 more lament 00:20:34 ? 00:20:40 s/more/poor/ 00:20:48 Im not sure how that happened. My fingers have a mind of their own 00:20:59 it can't be an argument 00:22:03 can't be generated on the fly either 00:25:20 * lament cries 00:25:40 (yes it can, and yes it can) 00:26:17 okay 00:26:26 here's an actual question as opposed to a rant. 00:28:21 nevermind 00:28:24 here's some more ranting. 00:29:04 I can make a program that simply runs (Hn '()) in an infinite loop. 00:29:09 increasing Hn every time. 00:30:15 Obviously this program is not scheme-n for any natural n 00:30:28 however it CAN be halt-checked with Homega 00:30:49 Correct? 00:32:21 -!- tgwizard has quit ("Leaving"). 00:35:46 * wildhalcyon has no idea 00:46:02 i think the only sane answer to that question is "no" 00:46:20 it's a scheme-omega program 01:10:29 ihope_: if you set up dgamelaunch on a box you own, you could use that to launch an publicly-accessible locked-down IRC client of some kind. 01:12:40 http://www.harderweb.de/jix/langs/omgrofl/ << not sure wether it works or not 01:17:13 jix: what is it? 01:17:19 OMGROFL! 01:17:21 interpreter 01:18:12 yay! 01:43:00 Does anyone have any brainscrambler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainscrambler) programs? 01:43:11 I just wrote an interpreter and I need to test it 02:01:12 Come on people 02:27:36 I think that amounts to "no, we don't" 02:31:16 You can translate a BF program into a Brainscrambler program easily enough. 02:35:46 -!- ihope_ has quit ("Bedtime"). 03:02:12 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit ("all your basment are belong to bsmntbombdood"). 03:02:25 -!- jix has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 03:03:30 -!- jix has joined. 03:04:46 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 03:05:47 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Client Quit). 03:06:02 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 03:10:36 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Client Quit). 03:14:29 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 03:25:25 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 04:08:18 -!- wildhalcyon has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"). 05:48:39 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 06:39:46 -!- kipple has joined. 06:54:28 -!- sedimin has joined. 07:00:25 morning! 07:00:36 morning 07:06:53 -!- bsmntbombdood has changed nick to foobarbaz. 07:14:38 -!- foobarbaz has quit (Client Quit). 07:15:03 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 07:15:16 it's night, man 07:17:03 -!- sedimin_ has joined. 07:22:30 -!- sedimin has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 07:32:24 -!- sedimin_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:32:37 -!- sedimin_ has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:18:49 -!- lindi- has joined. 08:53:53 -!- sedimin_ has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 08:54:39 -!- sedimin_ has joined. 08:54:47 damn 08:55:41 somebody here ? 08:56:02 yeah 08:57:36 I have a little problem with esolang wiki - In every browser I have installed I tried to edit large page (http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Brainfuck_constants), with fixed TOC, but the server always closes connection when I try to save changes.... 08:58:15 and I just can't get to save the edited page or preview it 08:58:48 dunno 08:59:19 never mind :) 09:00:08 how come you are using esoteric.voxelperfect.net instead of esolangs.org? 09:00:37 I always use it 09:01:23 when I first came there through google, and I bookmarked it, it was always this link 09:02:44 I would see if it works on the other server 09:03:16 whoops, they are the same :) 09:03:19 hm, now I see that wikipedia links to esolangs.org 09:03:36 It may be domain redirect? 09:03:57 they resolve to the same ip addr 09:04:31 y 09:04:32 but I am going to bed 09:04:54 cya 09:05:09 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit ("all your basment are belong to bsmntbombdood"). 09:25:00 -!- sedimin_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 09:26:42 -!- sedimin_ has joined. 10:32:13 -!- tgwizard has joined. 12:17:38 -!- lindi- has quit (".."). 12:44:11 -!- CXI has quit (Connection timed out). 13:22:07 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 14:00:38 mmf 14:01:05 * SimonRC curses the previous owners of this SGI workstation. 14:01:37 It is set to boot from disk, but there are no disks in it. 14:02:43 Fortunately, it is not an IBM PC (by definition), so it has a boot prompt (with flashy graphics and a twangy startup sound), with which I am supposed to be a ble to get it to netboot. 14:05:04 eklisha (my PC) is acting correctly as a DHCP server, but I will have to RTFM for tlwpenst (the SGI), to get it to retrieve the correct file from elkisha. 14:05:29 well, you can hardly expect support for things found in the junk pile round the back of the engineering dept. 14:05:40 * SimonRC goes 14:26:43 -!- ihope_ has joined. 14:26:52 -!- ihope_ has changed nick to ihope. 14:29:57 why the smallest bugs take the most time to find and fix? 14:44:15 The same reason smaller "real" bugs are harder to see than larger ones? 15:28:59 -!- sedimin_ has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 15:31:54 -!- jix has joined. 16:14:42 -!- kipple has joined. 16:47:12 -!- GregorR-W has joined. 16:51:30 * SimonRC has an SGI workstation, for those who missed the news 16:51:51 Livin' in the FUTURE 16:52:23 it's from 1999 16:52:35 Woot, it looks like the regex /(s?[b-df-hj-np-tv-z]?[rlwy]?[aeiouy]{1,2}[b-df-hj-np-tv-z]{0,3})*/ matches English-sounding words :-) 16:52:40 I got it from the junk pile behind the engineering dept 16:53:06 It lacks a disk, and netbooting is turning out to be tricky 16:53:52 A serial cable is high on the to-buy list 16:54:16 ihope: Qliackx 16:54:32 Oops, forgot about the QU rule. 16:54:40 Um... 16:54:42 Yeah, that's the only problem with that word.' 16:54:51 Ack. 16:55:28 "sxyyyzzz" 16:55:46 /(s?[b-df-hj-np(qu)r-tv-z]?[rlwy]?[aeiouy]{1,2}[b-df-hj-np(qu)r-tv-z]{0,3})*/? 16:56:16 squyyyyyy 16:56:31 Oh, I didn't notice the s at the beginning 16:56:35 hehehe 16:56:52 Szlyebquj 16:56:57 oh, wait, there's a * at the end... 16:57:01 yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 16:57:04 OH, AWESOME 8-D 16:57:27 Szlyebqujdriibdf 16:57:32 That word sounds SO ENGLISH 16:57:37 your regex needs some work,ihope 16:57:50 Heh. 16:58:15 At least I can now tell you how many syllables the word "English" has. 16:58:19 japanese is easier 16:58:23 Yep. 16:58:43 ihope: ... yeah, because the word English has a really ambiguous number of syllables. 16:58:45 challange: make one for Ithkuil. 16:58:51 Maybe-consonant, vowel, maybe-vowel, maybe-'n'? 16:59:00 should be easier than english, as it has a formal definition 16:59:11 Oh, wait, a syllable can have an 'e' on the end! 16:59:17 I mean Ithkuil 16:59:41 Now here's an ambiguously-syllabic word: Male/mail. Pronounced the same, but 'male' clearly has one syllable whereas 'mail' clearly has two :P 17:05:40 -!- cp has quit ("Lost terminal"). 17:06:05 * ihope wonders why the Latin alphabet or whatever it's called has two ways to write every letter 17:06:35 Three ways to write 'k' 17:07:12 PeoPlE wiLl StIll uNDeRstAnD yOu jusT FiNe If yoU mIx AnD MatCH, bUt thErE'S STilL a CoRrecT Way tO Do ThiNGs. 17:07:21 Ohhhhhhh 17:07:36 I thought you were referring to c-k-q, ee-y, oo-w, ec. 17:07:38 *etc 17:08:49 * ihope wants a language with three such cases 17:18:09 see some forms of english from past times 17:18:17 there were effectively 3 cases 17:18:27 well, latin, not english 17:19:20 there was a case you used for the first leter of chapter, a case for the first leter of all other verses, and a case for body of the text 17:19:48 (Well, what else would one be writing other than the Bible?) 17:19:59 Verses, eh? 17:20:29 By the way, does Unicode have a way to represent a lowercase letter 's' with an inverted circumflex accent over it? 17:20:41 Or, more specifically, UTF-8. 17:24:37 I'll say, "probably" 17:33:07 U0015D is close... 17:33:53 ŝ <- but not quite 17:33:54 0145 17:34:17 š 17:34:23 Ah! Thanks! 17:35:23 0145? My code charts say it's U+0161, File f = new File(args[0]); 17:35:23 System.out.println(f.getParentFile()); 17:35:28 Ghhbh. 17:35:35 Nice miscopypaste. 17:36:15 oops 17:36:20 it is 0161 17:36:36 Yeah, but 0145 does say "caron", which is what I needed. 17:37:15 the keystroke is alt+0145 in windows 17:37:33 U+0145 is Ņ, "LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N WITH CEDILLA". 17:37:34 So now I can say what I wanted to say: "So cuon er so ailuro eu druki. Cuon ride še slušir misotém ailurei. So ailuro e arašó rizuec." 17:37:52 WHY IS UNICODE SO LOUD? 17:38:12 It sounds more absurd when spoken OUT LOUD. 18:02:56 -!- CXI has joined. 18:12:13 -!- GregorR-W has quit ("Updating ChatZilla"). 18:14:33 seen on slashdot: "Finding political speech on the internet is like finding poop in the toilet: it's easy to find, but you don't want to see it." 18:15:05 -!- GregorR-W has joined. 18:21:29 haha. very good 18:32:12 * SimonRC gets an email from his mother: http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/~sc/tmp/flags.txt 18:33:23 SimonRC: All American drivers in Britain will be required to display three such flags :P 18:39:38 So how do words pop between languages? 18:40:46 Hey, I don't have a word for that thing you give a prospective employer! L' résumée? Oui, oui! 18:41:10 :-) 18:41:26 Yep, that'd work. 19:07:41 Well, I think it's easy enough to add infinite memory to BackFlip. 19:08:21 % goes up (which is not the same as north) and ~ goes down (not to be confused with south) 19:09:00 Going "up" lands you at a copy of the program, except with ~ and % swapped, and ~ does the same thing. 19:09:30 That is, all "levels" of the program are the same, except that "odd" levels have ~ and % swapped. 19:32:13 * ihope wishes all the software developers were forced to use really slow computers for testing 19:32:37 You are a very strange person. 19:32:57 And by "really slow", I mean "having a processor speed measurable in kilohertz" 19:33:51 And by that, I don't mean "hey, look, I get the 4194304kHz processor!" I mean 20kHz. 19:34:39 Nah, that's too harsh. Let's give 'em all 4MHz. 19:36:51 -!- Arrogant has joined. 19:43:49 phew 19:44:03 thanks to whoever put that wikipedia link on the banana scheme page 19:47:13 Don't tell me Wikipedia has something on the grape and banana hierarchies. 19:47:32 Not by those names 19:48:06 ihope: it does, too 19:48:18 anyway http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Banana_Scheme 19:48:36 Whew. 19:48:46 but that link added by Orjan pretty much explains everything (i assume. it's too complicated to actually read :) ) 19:51:47 - added Brainhype to the banana scheme page 19:52:42 now somebody should write a brainhype interpreter 19:55:04 What language should it be written in? 19:55:23 ihope: German. 19:56:27 ihope: Scheme-Omega 19:57:16 i.e. you're allowed to use (H N ) for any finite N 19:59:17 ' 19:59:26 " 19:59:48 '" 20:01:20 Next is ^], but I don't feel like typing that. 20:06:07 -!- ihope_ has joined. 20:06:13 -!- ihope has left (?). 20:06:34 So that'd be 20:08:10 oops. I see I typed on the wrong screen :) 20:08:24 :-) 20:09:39 nice to see someone got something "meaningful" out of it though ;) 20:10:31 -!- ihope_ has changed nick to ih. 20:10:41 Hmm... 20:10:50 -!- ih has changed nick to ihope_. 20:11:14 Better. 20:13:33 -!- sedimin_ has joined. 20:13:45 evening guys 20:13:52 -!- sedimin_ has changed nick to sedimin. 20:13:52 'lo sedimin_ 20:14:01 cheerio 20:14:09 'lo sedimin :P 20:14:12 gotta study for the computer architecture exam ;) 20:16:26 how are things going btw? everybody at work? 20:16:44 not in my timezone... 20:17:29 neither here, but the american guys may be 20:17:44 i'm at work 20:18:34 <-- note the tag 20:18:50 W? 20:18:58 For 'work' :P 20:19:50 mystic tag resolved? :) 20:20:32 I thought it was pretty obvious :P 20:20:53 well, what is then the tag for SimonRC? :) 20:21:04 I don't think it's the Release Candidate 20:21:05 i thought W was for Wacation. 20:21:28 or maybe @WC.. i know folks who take ICQ to the toilet 20:22:00 GregorRead-Writable 20:22:23 sedimin: http://www.harderweb.de/jix/langs/omgrofl/ 20:22:57 awesome 20:23:44 but I don't speak ruby so it's like korean to me 20:24:29 in interactive mode it has tab completion 20:24:34 (if you have readline support installed) 20:27:40 So what's the L in "GregorR-L"? 20:27:53 looser? 20:28:07 And I'm not spewing gibberish whenever I use the backspace key, am I? 20:28:30 ihope_: huh? 20:28:46 we should decide about official extension for omgrofl code :P 20:29:11 .omgrofllolwtfloooolpwndlolroflmao 20:29:34 Does omgrofl already have a "pwnd" command? 20:29:38 that's right 20:29:40 That is, pwn? 20:29:45 nope 20:29:46 one could use that to check for EOF 20:30:01 wtf lol iz pwnd 20:30:08 will check for eof? 20:30:16 yeah, it should have some file operations 20:30:35 pwn x will call file operation x 20:30:52 or should it be: x iz pwnd 20:30:58 File operations? Sheesh... you might as well turn it into a high-level language :-P 20:31:17 why not? not all esolangs needs to be excessively minimalistic 20:31:26 well do whatever you want... i'll implement it.. 20:31:27 -!- sedimin_ has joined. 20:31:46 I like programming languages that are to one extreme or the other in terms of I/O capability. 20:31:47 oh and my interpreter gives MEANINGFULL error msgs... 20:32:15 i think that is something special about esolang interpreters... 20:32:30 be more clear? 20:32:32 :-) 20:33:02 if there is a syntax error it tells you the line and what is allowed in that place.... 20:33:14 yes, I noticed 20:33:29 "Syntax Error on line 1: brb without matching rtfm or wtf" 20:33:37 that's really better than just crashing or hogging up memory/cpu 20:33:43 Syntax Error on line 2: tldr placed outside of a rtfm loop 20:33:47 :-) 20:33:53 I think of creating Omgrofl IDE 20:34:05 Shouldn't that be "an rtfm loop"? 20:34:12 why an? 20:34:17 rtfm begins with a 20:34:19 r* 20:34:48 whoops there is a bug in the interpreter.. 20:34:54 Yes, but you're not saying the word "rtfm"; you're saying the letters. 20:35:00 it's how you pronounce it that counts, and then it starts with a vowel. so it should be "an" 20:35:05 ihope_: i say read the fucking manual 20:35:12 Bingo. 20:35:22 and that starts with R 20:36:11 wtf lol iz 20:36:12 omgrofl.rb:195: undefined method `size' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError) 20:36:12 from omgrofl.rb:171 20:36:13 :( 20:36:41 :brown.freenode.net 421 ihope_ nknown command 20:36:47 -!- sedimin__ has joined. 20:36:47 Um, yeah. 20:36:53 crappy connection 20:38:51 argh there are some bugs in the interpreter 20:38:56 i really should have tested it... 20:38:59 Hee hee, I turned my terminal thingy green. 20:39:10 i'm going to fix them tomorrow or.. uhm.... 20:39:28 -!- sedimin____ has joined. 20:39:33 ...i see that bug 20:40:10 Error: too many sedimins. Please GHOST some, then try again. 20:41:34 foreach (dude d in dudes) 20:41:34 { 20:41:35 if(d.Name.Contains("sedimin") && d!=me) 20:41:35 kick(d); 20:41:35 } 20:43:16 I'd give you a Haskell expression that does that, but my arrow keys don't work, and that makes it Abosulutely Out of the Question. 20:43:51 hehehe: http://www.panexa.com/ "Panexa. Ask your doctor for a reason to take it." 20:43:56 but i like the sharp 20:44:12 The what? 20:44:16 C# 20:44:38 -!- Arrogant has quit ("Leaving"). 20:46:04 did you read this somewhere? :) Imagine if the State of the Union address were hacked because the TV 20:46:04 station decided to save money by using Linux? Imagine if a 20:46:04 stealth-bomber crashed because it's software was written by anonymous 20:46:04 Chinese or European hackers.... 20:46:04 20:46:05 And guess what software Osama Bin Laden uses on his laptop? 20:48:14 So if I PING ihope :clarke.freenode.net, will my server actually deliver the PING to clarke, which will have a PONG delivered to me? 20:48:54 ihope_: you are using plain telnet? 20:49:13 -!- sedimin has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:49:15 More or less. 20:49:23 yea, now the sedimins are dying 20:49:31 -!- sedimin____ has changed nick to sedimin. 20:49:35 "Do not taunt PANEXA." 20:49:39 Nice one. 20:52:50 test [45m test 20:53:02 ihope_: hm? 20:53:05 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 20:53:14 -!- sedimin_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:53:50 Do not taunt PANEXA... 20:54:01 sediminWhat the FUCK?! 20:54:07 ? 20:54:17 Where did you get that particular line of idiocy from? 20:54:26 as I said. the sedimins are disconnecting 20:54:39 Nonono, "Imagine if the State of the Union address were hacked because the TV" 20:54:42 (etc) 20:55:04 aa 20:55:05 yes 20:55:36 http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/20/linux-a-european-threat-to-our-c 20:55:38 it's worth reading 20:55:46 OH, that Shelly the Republican thing. 20:55:48 Rightright. 20:55:50 yes yes 20:56:11 -!- sedimin__ has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 20:56:11 it's just good for the everyday amount of laughter 21:01:02 uhm thats satire isn't it? 21:01:40 i hope so 21:05:02 It shouldn't be too hard to write an IRC client. 21:06:20 jix: Yes, it's fake. 21:09:12 Is it okay if I don't implement CTCP? 21:09:34 -!- fizzie has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 21:10:12 ihope_: why would you write an irc client 21:11:04 * ihope_ ponders grammar 21:11:09 lol 21:11:13 Why would you write a question mark. 21:11:36 I want to have an IRC client such that I know exactly how it works. 21:11:59 would you want to have a woman that you know exactly how she works? 21:12:06 My question mark is broken, see: ?????????????? 21:12:46 sedimin: depends on whether IRC clients count as women or not :-P 21:12:59 sedimin: Yes, but when I finished cutting her up I didn't have a woman anymore :( 21:13:12 Eew. 21:13:26 i would not count woman as an IRC client :/ 21:13:32 she can talk, surely 21:13:41 and talk to other "IRC clients" 21:14:02 can also be killed, disconnected or set up 21:14:59 now i don't see why woman can't be used as irc client ;) 21:17:15 * SimonRC reconsiders the "jam every other day" argument in Alice in wonderlan in terms of different binding times. 21:18:07 Jam every other microsecond? 21:18:33 * SimonRC fwaps GregorR-W 21:19:44 I noticed that English has a missing grammar construct. 21:20:02 and that is? 21:20:10 Future tense? :P 21:20:19 Past progressive tense? 21:20:22 Future progressive tense? 21:20:25 If you have an alarm clock, and you know when it will go off, then you have an alarm clock ___ 21:20:28 past progressive? wtf? 21:20:29 Really, any tense but present and past. 21:20:33 Fill in the blank. 21:20:35 then you have alarm clock went off 21:20:38 sedimin: I was eating vs I ate 21:20:40 no? 21:20:54 :) 21:21:06 You have an alarm clock, and you know when it will go off... 21:21:07 sedimin: I don't even know what concept you think should go in the blank ... 21:21:21 Erm 21:21:25 ihope_, not sedimin :P 21:21:31 :) 21:21:44 is should be some kind of passive 21:21:50 Oh boy, you guys are confusing me. 21:21:54 lol 21:22:03 * ihope_ stiches back to an IRC client 21:22:05 -!- ihope_ has quit. 21:22:05 so what about creating English++? 21:22:16 English with object orientation? :P 21:22:17 -!- ihope has joined. 21:22:21 yes 21:22:22 Better. 21:22:23 exatcly 21:22:30 but it would be backwards-compatible with English 21:22:48 ihope: If you have an alarm clock, and you know when it will go off, then you have an alarm clock, the alarm time for which you know. 21:23:00 that's a hack, Gregor 21:23:12 Yes, it is... 21:23:12 It's proper :P 21:23:17 no, it's a hack 21:23:24 :) 21:23:27 It's proper! 21:23:42 isn't it the same as: I had some food, and when my dog ate it, it was eaten? 21:23:43 But I said knowing when it will go off, not knowing its alarm time. 21:24:08 yes, somebody might have set the time differently that I thought the alarm clock was set to 21:24:21 OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 21:24:22 ->so you don't know the time. 21:24:23 Well... 21:24:48 Not a grammatical construct, btw. 21:25:03 What's not a grammatical construct? 21:25:12 the ____ 21:25:41 more specifically, the thing that should fill the gap 21:25:56 and if it fills the gap, so it is filler, not a gramatical construct 21:29:03 If you were inventing a tense, or type of word, or something, that'd be a grammatical construct. 21:30:34 LOL there was a picture of someone jerking off on the german wikipedia main page! 21:30:53 O_O 21:31:33 someone replaced a picture of Joseph von Fraunhofer witht that.. 21:31:48 What's up with pictures like that appearing on main pages? 21:37:18 http://www.bash.org/?136534 21:38:23 GregorR: lol 21:39:11 ;) 21:45:11 * SimonRC goes 21:53:32 w00t this rules: http://www.mobilityguru.com/2006/06/07/sonys_tiny_windows_xp_powered_micro_pc/ 21:57:36 Will "normal" Windows software run on it? 21:58:10 yes 21:58:16 it is x86 with windows xp 21:58:26 just in small case 21:58:44 eh 21:59:26 How big's the keyboard? 21:59:30 don't ask 21:59:46 ... 21:59:48 but bluetooth keyboard could be connected 21:59:52 Will a real OS run on it? 22:00:00 like linux? :) 22:00:15 A good example. 22:00:35 if it's x86 it should work, but you'd probably need some custom drivers... 22:00:38 Define "real OS". 22:01:20 at least linux console will surely run without trouble with drivers 22:01:57 probably needs a special keyboard driver 22:02:16 the graphics and networking seems to be pretty standard, so they might work out of the box 22:02:22 but what do I know... :P 22:02:27 but it features Intel graphics chipset, and also intel network 22:02:42 i think the keyboard will work like all keyboards on notebooks 22:03:24 Oh wow 22:03:31 That should run practically out-of-the-box then 22:03:44 Intel graphics are about the best supported on GNU/Linux in terms of purely OSS drivers. 22:04:13 Intel WLAN, not so much, but getting there :P 22:04:31 (not like my ati+broadcom+god-knows-what stuff ;) ) 22:17:30 fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfx3Gh7_QcY&search=sith%20emperor%20darth%20vader 22:21:06 lol 22:21:27 quite long ;) 22:32:10 Time for a reboot! 22:34:11 -!- ihope has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 22:40:57 -!- ihope has joined. 22:50:19 So Wikipedia says it's not an indiscriminate collection of information. 22:50:36 Where can I go to find an indiscriminate collection of information, then? 22:50:52 "Wikistuff: the free indiscriminate collection of information." 22:51:43 lol 22:51:46 Gotta make that page :P 22:58:40 ihope: internet 22:58:57 Oh yeah. 23:00:05 I guess what I'm looking for is "Wikistuff: the free *consolidated* indiscriminate collection of information that anyone can edit". 23:05:55 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 23:06:13 Does the information have to be true? 23:06:31 If so, it's automatically discriminate, if not, it's worthless. 23:06:48 Well, there'll always be someone discriminating. 23:09:52 "In this way you can paint a computer on your wall and if it's not powerful enough you put on another coat of computer." 23:10:40 (The above quote is from http://future.wikia.com/wiki/Computronium. It is available under the GNU Free Documentation License--see http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html.) 23:30:34 -!- sedimin has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 23:33:36 -!- GregorR-W has changed nick to GregorR-V. 23:41:05 hmm, whats GregorR-V stand for? 23:42:10 larsivi|Zzzsaws off GregorR-W with his Zs :P 23:42:12 =-=YOU are now known as GregorR-V 23:42:13 You sawed half my W off! 23:42:33 ha 23:43:01 15:42 [freenode] -!- larsivi|Zzz [n=larsivi@062016230103.customer.alfanett.no] 23:43:01 15:42 [freenode] -!- ircname : Lars Ivar Igesund 23:43:01 15:42 [freenode] -!- channels : #D.Tango #dmedia #trout #ddl #TitanKernel #d 23:43:01 #yzis 23:43:05 i don't wanna know 23:43:36 #d is the intersection of those two channel lists, lament. 23:44:13 exactly what i said. 23:48:27 -!- GregorR-V has changed nick to GregorR-W. ```