00:00:39 -!- ihope_ has changed nick to ihope. 01:27:14 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:28:02 -!- calamari has joined. 01:34:58 -!- Sgeo has joined. 01:56:19 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 02:03:59 -!- Sgeo has joined. 02:10:19 -!- tokigun has joined. 02:27:39 BRB all, trying the system w/o the evil ntfsprogs 02:32:23 If there were a point thingy for killing the chat here, I'd have won the jackpot just now. 02:33:28 -!- Sgeo has quit ("Ex-Chat"). 02:38:58 -!- Sgeo has joined. 02:49:07 -!- Sgeo has quit ("Ex-Chat"). 02:54:44 -!- Sgeo has joined. 03:49:46 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 04:16:12 -!- poiuy_qwert` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 04:33:49 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 04:34:16 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 05:08:35 -!- Arrogant has joined. 05:27:06 -!- Sgeo has quit ("Ex-Chat"). 05:39:59 -!- sedimin has joined. 05:40:02 hi there 05:44:09 Hey. 05:45:07 how are things doing? 05:49:18 Frustratingly. 05:49:19 You? 05:49:56 Hm, quite fast, not as I would wish 05:50:26 gotta do loads of things at one time ;) 05:54:28 >< 06:58:43 -!- sedimin has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:14:03 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 09:19:52 -!- CXI has quit (Success). 09:28:20 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit ("all your basment are belong to bsmntbombdood"). 09:29:42 -!- CXI has joined. 09:57:44 -!- sedimin has joined. 10:31:23 -!- Arrogant has quit ("Leaving"). 11:09:17 -!- sedimin has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 11:56:22 Is it easy to compile Bag into Thue, or vise versa? 12:09:33 -!- Sgeo has joined. 12:24:16 -!- Sgeo has quit ("Ex-Chat"). 12:57:44 -!- tgwizard has joined. 13:27:47 Ugh. 13:28:19 I think it's not horribly hard to compile Fractran into Thue. 13:55:34 I mean, they're very similar in operation, except that in Thue the order of the items matter 13:56:04 Ah, right. 13:56:10 which means you can't convert 666 into 232323 and have it mean the same as 222333 13:56:27 but I've not tried, so I'm not sure if that is an obstacle or not 13:56:59 Well, you could have some rules to scramble your primes around... then again, rules in Fractran have to work in a given order. 13:57:37 hmm 13:57:43 perhaps it's not so easy after all 13:58:24 Oh, there are ways to do it. 13:58:36 hmm yes 13:58:57 Just have a field of stars, representing the current number. 13:59:25 how do you check the division then? 13:59:30 I'd imagine having a symbol per prime 13:59:41 and just replace a set of primes with another 13:59:55 You emit a bubble that runs through the field of stars, applying the first fraction. If it fails, go back, and undo what you've done. If it succeeds, go back, but don't undo. 14:00:06 well that's fairly complex 14:00:13 Not really. 14:00:23 it's more complex than what I had imagined 14:00:44 I mean, you're just transmuting primes, no need to care about what the product is 14:01:39 Suppose you have ***** as your string, and you want to apply the fraction 3/5. Just stick a bubble on there to get "%*****", which turns into "***%", which turns into "***S", into "**S*", into "*S**", into "S***". 14:01:46 the rule 15/14 for instance, says to convert 2 7 to 3 5 14:02:08 Yes, but the 2 and the 7 might be anywhere in your string. 14:02:15 yes I realize how you do it, but it'd be terribly slow, compared to just transmuting the primes directly; especially if you have a lot of primes 14:02:19 indeed 14:02:31 but is there no simple way to sort it? 14:02:33 I guess it's still easy enough. 14:03:05 Just have your bubble look for a 2, and for a 7, but not necessarily next to each other. 14:03:49 I mean, if we're talking 2*3*5*7*9*11, and we're applying the program 64/15 9/2 81/3 21/11 14:03:59 We could use {15/14} for the bubble, and [2] and [7] for the stuff it goes through. 14:04:00 the field of stars would be humongous 14:04:06 and you'd be backtracking a *lot* 14:05:05 If it finds a [2], it deletes it and turns into {15/7}, and if it finds a 7, it deletes it and turns into {15/2}, and if either of those then finds the other, it'll delete it and turn into [3][5]. 14:05:48 * W_work nods 14:05:52 If it can't find an appropriate number in the whole string, it spits out the numbers it's eaten and goes back home, indicating failure in some way. 14:18:02 good idea 14:28:01 -!- CXI has quit (Connection timed out). 15:43:12 you can tell my job is interesting 15:43:22 * W_work heads home 15:43:46 W_work: what is your job 15:43:48 ? 15:44:15 I'm an all-purpose programmer for a telco here in Norway 15:44:37 but today has gone to debugging hardware 15:45:34 my job IS actually quite interesting, I just wanted to pretend I have an excuse for my procrastination 15:45:46 * W_work really heads home 15:58:41 heh 16:34:05 Uh? 16:34:40 Oh. 17:10:45 <_W_> and it turned out to be a software problem after all 18:01:17 -!- calamari has joined. 18:13:36 Chav n. -- A minion of Asbodeus 18:13:38 :-) 18:13:55 a rather British joke 18:15:15 hi 18:37:19 hi 18:55:30 -!- CXI has joined. 18:57:59 -!- Sgeo has joined. 19:17:33 -!- ihope_ has joined. 19:25:59 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 19:34:49 -!- ihope has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 19:42:38 -!- sekhmet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 20:06:13 -!- sekhmet has joined. 20:07:11 -!- sedimin has joined. 20:29:14 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 20:33:26 -!- sedimin_ has joined. 20:40:43 -!- sedimin has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 21:35:14 -!- sedimin_ has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 21:54:20 -!- ihope_ has changed nick to ihope. 22:31:17 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Connection timed out). 22:45:27 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 22:50:04 -!- _coder_ has joined. 22:53:49 -!- _coder_ has quit (Client Quit). 23:13:19 -!- _coder_ has joined. 23:18:38 -!- tgwizard has quit ("goodnight"). 23:20:02 -!- _coder_ has quit ("Leaving").