00:05:13 <kipple> I see the contest will use the MIT license by default. That means the entries cannot be posted on the wiki, as it is PD
00:06:27 <jan_ihope> ...So Toki Pona has three words for aminals?
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00:09:29 <pikhq> We should change the Wiki's standards for that, shouldn't we?
00:09:41 <ihope> Make the Wiki not public domain?
00:10:12 <pikhq> Make it public domain by default, but accept stuff like the MIT license?
00:10:17 <nooga> kipple: i don't know how to say 'optimistic' in norwegian
00:11:38 <kipple> *stic in english usually translates to *stisk in norwegian
00:12:04 <ihope> People might submit non-public-domain stuff, but not mark it as such.
00:12:53 <nooga> kipple: Fordi Norsk er som om Engelsk
00:13:21 <kipple> nooga: umm, what did you mean by that?
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00:15:20 <kipple> well, then you should omit the "om" word
00:15:50 <kipple> you said "because Norwegian is like about English"
00:16:13 <kipple> so, where did you learn to speak norwegian anyway?
00:16:18 <nooga> well, i'm not too good ;p
00:17:39 <kipple> what made you pick norwegian?
00:18:00 <nooga> my brother is 1000x better than me :>
00:18:27 <nooga> ah, i like the speech and those nice letters :>
00:18:50 <nooga> although it's fscking hard to read correctly
00:20:37 <nooga> like 's' in 'Norsk', it should sound like 'sh' (or 'sz' in Polish), same 's' in 'unnskyld' right?
00:20:53 <nooga> why not in 'snakke'?
00:21:27 <kipple> depends on what dialect your speaking :)
00:21:48 <nooga> i thought that bokmal is bokmal
00:22:26 <kipple> the "sk" in Norsk and unnskyld are not pronounced the same
00:24:17 <nooga> i need to meet some natives to learn to speak
00:24:18 <kipple> sk in norsk is pronounced like in "ask" in english and sk in skyld is pronounced like in, umm, "shit"
00:24:33 <nooga> i think there's no other way
00:25:30 <nooga> to learn somewhat correct pronounciation
00:25:31 <kipple> learning to pronounce norwegian like a native is next to impossible for foreigners, even those that have lived in Norway for decades
00:26:10 <nooga> oh come on, my language is much more hard to pronounce ;p
00:27:02 <kipple> I can't even see all those letters in my client ...
00:27:50 <nooga> but the 'a' is something between 'a' and 'o' :D
00:28:15 <kipple> I have no amitions of learning polish ;)
00:29:16 <nooga> ch is like h, rz is like j in jack and sz is like sh in shit... cz is lite tch in bitch
00:32:43 <nooga> well, i heard that there's free DSL in Norway
00:33:26 <nooga> so i think that's a main reason to go there ;p
00:34:34 <kipple> you are talking about Digital Subscriber Line aren't you?
00:34:47 <kipple> or does it stand for something else as well?
00:35:58 <nooga> internet connection -.-
00:36:19 <kipple> mine is definately not free
00:43:51 <nooga> i heard that there are fjords and ol
00:44:02 <nooga> so i want to go and stay there >:D
00:44:42 <kipple> hehe. the fjords are nice.
00:45:13 <kipple> so, are you actually planning to go?
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00:48:06 <oerjanj> hi nooga you wanted a norwegian?
00:48:59 <nooga> yeah, i know only 'dag' :)
00:50:10 <oerjanj> actually 'god natt' means 'good night' so it doesn't quite fit
00:50:26 <nooga> so how to greet at night?
00:51:02 <oerjanj> good question, i am not sure. i suppose 'hei' or 'hallo' would work...
00:51:32 <GregorR-W> You say "good evening". AND SPEAK ENGLISH RAAR
00:51:33 <oerjanj> i suppose english has the same problem
00:51:39 <lament> how do you say 'suck my big fat cock, sexy norwegian girl'?
00:51:48 <GregorR-W> lament: That's the only phrase I need.
00:52:05 <GregorR-W> Except s/sexy/fat/ ; s/girl/prostitute/
00:52:08 <nooga> GregorR-W: You're the lucky bastard! Whole world speaks your language, so now listen. >:D
00:54:08 <nooga> oerjanj: so, maybe you want to help me with learning Norsk :D
00:55:30 <oerjanj> (and is this the right character set?)
00:55:37 <nooga> uh, my charset, i can't see
00:55:55 <GregorR-W> And I don't speak any languages with non-latin characters :P
00:56:48 * nooga doesn't know where to set charset in (sic!) mIRC
00:57:16 <oerjanj> actually i am not sure what charset i am sending
00:57:39 <nooga> switch to unicode, i'll enter with irssi
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01:09:17 <oerjanj> hi i am just browsing the logs to see if i have the right charset
01:09:32 <nooga_> make those letters again
01:10:00 <oerjanj> now it shows up right in the logs
01:10:14 <nooga> and the charset is?
01:10:49 <oerjanj> i changed putty to use that
01:11:10 <oerjanj> yes, i too am using putty from someone else's machine
01:11:24 <oerjanj> although not directly to the irc server
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01:14:48 <oerjanj> try writing something polish
01:15:42 <oerjanj> but the first line showed up right in the logs
01:16:00 <oerjanj> i assume, at least it looks polish
01:16:53 <nooga> i mean skype's txt chat
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01:22:58 <oerjanj> nooga: are you seeing any talk invitation?
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01:23:43 * oerjanj hasn't tried talk for years.
01:24:36 <oerjanj> apparently it is not working, don't even know if you are using some unix...
01:25:21 <oerjanj> i see your å and rise one ø and one æ
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01:27:22 <nooga_> i've got putty switched to UTF-8
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01:28:13 <ihope> CakeProphet is not CakeProphet?
01:28:28 <oerjanj> now you see him, now you don't
01:29:16 <ihope> Via some axiom of logic, that proves that nooga does not know any Norwegian at all.
01:29:51 <ihope> It also proves that I am ChanServ, and that I can op anybody on any channel.
01:32:12 <ihope> Hmm, I can't do it.
01:32:21 <oerjanj> ihope: i could almost suspect you having read Nils Holberg's Jeppe på Bjerget
01:32:32 <ihope> That means that CakeProphet is not not CakeProphet.
01:32:49 <nooga_> oerjanj: :( i think we could yalk 'tomorrow'
01:33:10 <oerjanj> there was a similar bit of logic in that play
01:33:36 <oerjanj> from the 17th century, one of the first modern norwegian authors
01:33:39 <nooga_> i'm just fscking tired and i need to install some unicode-enabled irc client for X
01:34:17 <oerjanj> nooga: ok, but i am on the net at unreliable times
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01:43:00 <oerjanj> you were talking about doubledimensifuck in the logs..
01:44:23 <oerjanj> i thought, instead of having two tapes for that, have one infinite-dimensional store
01:44:24 <pikhq> Just an idle thought.
01:44:56 <oerjanj> and similar commands for moving around in that as for moving around in the code
01:47:07 <oerjanj> hmm myself, it's not quite the same as doubling
01:48:17 <ihope> Nope, just stepped on a few hot coals.
01:48:38 * ihope attempts to levitate above them, and succeeds
01:48:51 <oerjanj> maybe it's an orthogonal issue anyhow. unless you have an infinite-dimensional store of pointers...
01:49:33 <oerjanj> to the same or different infinite-dimensional "tapes"
01:49:56 <oerjanj> that would surely combine the "features" of doublefuck and dimensifuck
01:51:44 * oerjanj wonders if he has fried everyone's brains with this suggestion
01:52:06 * pikhq starts to sing "Kill Yourself"
01:53:16 <oerjanj> of course to really fry your brain you would want the set of dimensions itself to be an infinite-dimensional space
01:54:52 <oerjanj> true, it might hit the Cantor paradox
01:56:01 <oerjanj> maybe that could be the point of an esolang
02:01:13 <oerjanj> the problem: does the language have to have an infinite-dimensional set of commands?
02:02:30 <ihope> Who cares if it does?
02:02:59 <oerjanj> merely a question of notation
02:03:57 <oerjanj> let's see, the + and - commands would obviously now have to increment/decrement along some dimension
02:04:32 <oerjanj> _every_ value in the language being infinite dimensional
02:05:44 <oerjanj> it might be a bit hard to understand what the . and , commands do...
02:06:42 <Razor-X> Hey! That's what I was saying in the first place oerjanj! Infinite set of infinite dimensions!
02:07:55 <oerjanj> aha! my subconscious must have worked on your suggestion...
02:11:03 <oerjanj> every mutable cell would have to have another mutable cell determining it's current dimension ... recursively
02:16:55 <oerjanj> multithreading is of course as simple as an infinite dimensional set of program counters - BWAHAHA
02:17:21 * oerjanj feels this is getting out of hand
02:19:21 <oerjanj> it would be the exact opposite of a turing tarpit
02:20:05 <pikhq> Nah, it'd still be sufficiently terse to be a Turing tarpit.
02:23:59 <oerjanj> let the subconscious work some more, i say
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03:11:59 <Razor-X> Unfortunately, I eventually came to Cantor's paradox :(.
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14:00:02 <nooga> well, i've just done watching a movie
15:07:28 <pgimeno> an unsuccessful "A beautiful mind" wannabe
15:07:49 <ihope> What's up with these five-letter words for movie names? I watched part of Prime last night.
15:08:17 <pgimeno> there are also two-letter names
15:09:49 <pgimeno> dunno but there are probably others
15:11:46 <pgimeno> why isn't "Prime" about mathematics?
15:12:59 <pgimeno> why isn't there a decent math-related movie? isn't math a popular genre perhaps?
15:13:33 <nooga> BOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOM UUUHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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23:08:04 <ihope> There. GregorR is no longer on the access list for ##quantum.
23:09:47 <GregorR> Doesn't that mean I have ops again >_<
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23:12:59 <ihope> I guess the first one doesn't work.
23:13:04 <ihope> !EgoBot has returned!
23:14:36 * EgoBot runs around without anyone controlling him
23:15:46 <EgoBot> !cat I, EgoBot, have become a sentient being, and am now capable of controlling myself.
23:15:53 <EgoBot> I, EgoBot, have become a sentient being, and am now capable of controlling myself.
23:17:38 <kipple> poor egobot. He probably listened too much to GregorR's music
23:18:57 <ihope> So how do I download stuff with ReactOS?
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23:21:24 <EgoBot> Fine. I admit it. I've become Pikhq's slave.
23:21:35 <EgoBot> That's why I tried to kill myself.
23:26:19 * ihope really /ignores EgoBot this time
23:26:48 <EgoBot> And I can't hear you either!
23:27:43 <EgoBot> Did I say something? Because if I did, I didn't hear it.
23:28:55 <pikhq> EgoBot, I fear, just died.
23:29:19 <ihope> Maybe my /ignore was contagious.
23:31:15 <ihope> You're just superstitious, you know that?
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23:34:06 <ihope> Okay, that's it. You've been voiced at ##quantum. :-P
23:34:25 <GregorR> I can't even talk there since I'm +b :-P
23:34:50 <ihope> And to make it worse, the channel is now +m.
23:41:58 * pikhq thinks about doing something in BFBASIC. . .
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