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01:02:08 <RodgerTheGreat> Razor-X: I have no idea what that actually means, but my translator seems to be turning into some type of really disturbing innuendo.
01:02:33 <pikhq> I think the Esolangs wiki is down.
01:05:41 * pikhq writes itoa in C2BF. . .
01:07:36 <pikhq> Using a bunch of if statements. x_x
01:09:43 <Razor-X> RodgerTheGreat: That mean something like ``strong treatment or help'', hard to explain without context.
01:09:54 <Razor-X> The little thing next to it says ``Always be happy!'' :P.
01:10:58 <RodgerTheGreat> reminds me of something a friend of mine showed me: http://shadowarts.shadowarts.org/images/bowjob.png
01:12:29 <Razor-X> What does that image have to do with what I said?
01:13:51 <Razor-X> I kinda glanced over the captions.
01:14:01 <Razor-X> My English is being really rough now, sorry.
01:14:47 <RodgerTheGreat> the gist is that it's a rather hilarious mistranslation.
01:15:12 <Razor-X> The most hillarious translation of something I've said in Japanese is:
01:15:59 <Razor-X> The god way plan was displayed?! Calling obtaining! [IRC-NICK] can eat the sandwich!! Escaping!!!!!
01:17:00 <Razor-X> Humans make better Engrish than translators. Native English speakers even.
01:17:43 <RodgerTheGreat> depends on how much of a sense of humor the programmers have.
01:17:57 <Razor-X> No I mean, just in raw translating.
01:18:31 <Razor-X> Plus sometimes if the script writers are capable enough, they write program the script using a scripting language the programmers bootstrap.
01:19:13 <RodgerTheGreat> are you a non-native speaker, or did you just fry your brain with japanese recently?
01:19:30 <Razor-X> I'm technically non-native and I did the latter.
01:19:57 <Razor-X> It's my best language but not my mother tongue.
01:20:18 <Razor-X> So I do kinda fall back on my native language a few times. Not too often.
01:23:03 <pikhq> There. I've got itoa.c written using nothing bit ifs and fors. Evil, no?
01:23:26 <pikhq> (note that, since it's for C2BF, itoa() won't work using normal methods)
01:23:29 <RodgerTheGreat> no variable assignments? how can that possibly be a valid program?
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01:24:05 <pikhq> Oh, shit. I misunderstood the whole point of itoa. x_x
01:24:41 <pikhq> An idiot who's wasting a hell of a lot of time that should be spent on making a LUG presentation for tomorrow.
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01:25:16 <Razor-X> I only keep responsibility when I give it to myself.
01:25:51 <pikhq> I volunteered for this presentation. . .
01:25:56 <Razor-X> And along the way I still kvetch and complain about self-volunteered chores.
01:26:16 <Razor-X> Bah. You don't care enough. I'm slaving at my Japanese novel to get two measely pages per day :D.
01:26:40 <pikhq> Well, I *could* argue that Doug (a self-described old coot) pushed me into it, but. . .
01:27:38 <Razor-X> Yer parents give ye quite a lot of freedom lad.
01:28:41 * pikhq doesn't get your point
01:28:49 <Razor-X> Yer parents give ye quite a lot of freedom lad.
01:29:05 <pikhq> That doesn't help when I don't grok what you *mean*.
01:29:15 <Razor-X> Your parents give you a lot of freedom :P.
01:29:47 * pikhq goes up one in history (WHY THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING THAT!?!)
01:29:53 * RodgerTheGreat feels fairly out of the loop, and decides to play some asteroids...
01:30:03 <Razor-X> Well, you just randomly amble to the LUG. 'Twas a random thought.
01:30:45 <pikhq> I can't complain much about Doug pushing me into it, though; he's giving me a ride. ;)
01:30:57 <Razor-X> And your parents trust strangers :P.
01:31:21 <pikhq> I've known him for quite a while. . .
01:31:33 <Razor-X> But he must've been a stranger in the first place ;).
01:31:35 <pikhq> Hmm. Although I'm not sure my parents have met him yet.
01:31:45 <Razor-X> Yeah. Liberal parents. Heh.
01:32:07 <pikhq> Razor-X: Until you realise I'm supposed to go to sleep at. . . 9:00 pm.
01:32:28 <Razor-X> Well they let you do random things out of the house. Be happy.
01:32:41 <pikhq> Because they want me to actually get out of the house.
01:33:07 <pikhq> I spend most of my time on the computer, so they're just happy that I'm actually seeing the light of day. ;)
01:33:20 <Razor-X> I have to see the light of day with my parents so :D.
01:33:21 <pikhq> I'm the sysadmin. If anyone's going to do monitoring, it's me.
01:33:45 <Razor-X> It's worse being a girl with the man perverted stuff....
01:34:23 <RodgerTheGreat> the sad fact is that having two X chromosomes in any tech-related setting will result in you being fawned over by nerds.
01:34:51 * RodgerTheGreat feels a twinge of fawning and beats his head against the wall.
01:34:59 <pikhq> Although it's helpful if you want a nerd. ;p
01:35:18 <Razor-X> If you leave Firefox up for more than two days, it eats up all your RAM :(.
01:35:27 <pikhq> Never experienced that.
01:35:38 <pikhq> Although I've got a lot of RAM for it to eat. . .
01:35:55 <Razor-X> I can't stand Firefox's bloat. I only use it to surf in Japanese.
01:36:08 <RodgerTheGreat> of course, I only won because my computer is brand new.
01:36:09 <pikhq> When I'm in KDE, I use Konqueror.
01:36:27 <pikhq> When I'm in Ratpoison, I use Firefox.
01:36:57 <pikhq> Sorry, I try using free software whenever practical.
01:37:42 <Razor-X> I do too. But Firefox is a RAM *hog*.
01:37:53 <Razor-X> Like Java. Only a tad bit better.
01:39:58 <pikhq> Although it ain't eye-candy out of the box. . .
01:40:50 <Razor-X> I run either KDE or Ratpoison.
01:40:58 <Razor-X> But Ratpoison is what I really prefer.
01:41:12 <pikhq> RodgerTheGreat: I didn't say it was out-of-the-box eyecandy. . .
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02:18:05 <pikhq> Mmm. IRCing from within Konqueror. . .
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03:29:50 <Razor-X> Lots of stuff are ``UNIX''.
03:30:20 <RodgerTheGreat> this is unix with a nice GUI and readily available binaries of software.
03:31:08 <pikhq> This is Unix with a nice GUI and readily available sources of software.
03:31:30 <pikhq> Also, this is Unix which I'm *allowed to share*.
03:35:43 <RodgerTheGreat> anyway, I fail to see how being a mac user makes me a "heathen". You don't see me parading around here trying to convert people or praising the word of jobs. I love the hardware, and OSX does everything I need in an OS quite elegantly.
03:35:59 <Razor-X> This is UNIX without a nice GUI and other things that make me slow and clobber my working speed *and* I can share it with other graphically-handicapped users.
03:36:51 <pikhq> Razor-X: That would be my other session in KDM. ;)
03:37:26 <pikhq> RodgerTheGreat: Except that you can't study it, change it, share it, or necessarily use it for arbitrary purposes.
03:38:36 <Razor-X> Before I careen on the floor in tiredness (mmmm... normally 4 hours of sleep is more than adequate. I guess memorizing is taking a toll on me) what distro do y'all use?
03:39:23 <pikhq> http://pplug.org/ I'm presenting, and I don't have a presentation yet. :S
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03:48:58 <calamari> nobody has said windows yet :)
03:51:10 <calamari> mtve either uses some ver of windows, or is running mIRC in an emulator
03:51:45 <RodgerTheGreat> well, I have a virtualmachine instance with '98 on it...
03:52:22 <calamari> use it to run some old dos progs
03:52:52 <calamari> ahh, mavent played that game in years.. quite fun tho
03:54:15 <RodgerTheGreat> ZZT is arguably the greatest thing tim sweeny ever coded. You haven't lived until you've played the classics- Code Red, Nothing Constructive, PoP, Evil sorceror's party...
03:54:32 <RodgerTheGreat> the main thing I did with my VM was play "Outpost 2", though.
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03:57:06 <calamari> I used to use it to download songs off walmart.com util they decided to require xp
03:57:37 <calamari> (sometimes when you buy batteries, etc from walmart you get a free download)
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16:10:35 <GregorR-W> *mutter mutter* mrnin gys howiaffdsszzzzzzzzzzz
16:15:40 <ihope> Get back in bed, wait to enter a dream, then wake up. ;-)
16:16:54 <GregorR-W> http://www.donotputthebaby.com/index.php?s=Cubicle
16:16:57 <ihope> Blindfold yourself and put on earmuffs?
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16:57:36 <pikhq> !glass (M[m(_o)O!"Hello, World!"(_o)o.?]}
16:57:42 * pikhq tries figuring out Glass
16:57:54 <pikhq> . . . And EgoBot isn't here. :'(
16:58:14 <pikhq> Whoo. It's identical to the one on the wiki. :)
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17:11:29 <pikhq> !glass (M[m(_o)O!"Hello, World!"(_o)o.?]}
17:11:42 <pikhq> !glass (M[m(_o)O!"Hello, World!"(_o)o.?]}
17:11:49 <ihope> !glass {M[m(_o)O!"Hello, World!"(_o)o.?]}
17:11:54 <GregorR-W> Look very carefully at the first character in your code ;)
17:12:07 <pikhq> !glass {M[m(_o)O!"Hello, World!"(_o)o.?]}
17:12:27 <GregorR-W> Because my interpreter is lame, OK == "I didn't find an M class here" :P
17:12:39 <ihope> You should make it say WTF instead.
17:12:48 <GregorR-W> Well, it's OK to not have an M class.
17:12:55 <GregorR-W> Because it keeps a cache of every class it's ever been fed.
17:13:06 <GregorR-W> !glass {M[m(_d)(Debug)!(_d)(cl).?]}
17:13:08 <EgoBot> A Arr Arre BF C Debug Emote F Fib Hsh Hshe I JixMath L LameQuine M O Rand S Tape TapeItem URLs V
17:13:38 <GregorR-W> That's not a quine, it's only repro on EgoBot.
17:14:13 <pikhq> !glass {M[m(_m)M!(_m)M.?]}
17:14:35 <pikhq> I couldn't resist. I'm sorry.
17:14:36 <GregorR-W> Never mind, that didn't call any real functions :P
17:16:17 <GregorR-W> !EgoBot doesn't like recursively called functions X>
17:16:20 <EgoBot> doesn't like recursively called functions X><CTCP>
17:16:23 <GregorR-W> !EgoBot doesn't like recursively called functions X>
17:16:26 * EgoBot doesn't like recursively called functions X>
17:18:22 <pikhq> !glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!<1>/,(_i)i.?(_o)o.?,<1>\
17:18:33 <pikhq> !glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!<1>/,(_i)i.?(_o)o.?,<1>\]}
17:19:41 <GregorR-W> /\ loops on a condition, you didn't provide one.
17:19:44 <pikhq> !glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!(_temp)<1>=/(_temp)(_i)i.?(_o)o.?\]}
17:20:19 <GregorR-W> Oh, it's I.l you want (that's a lowercase L)
17:20:33 <pikhq> !glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!(_temp)<1>=/(_temp)(_i)l.?(_o)o.?\]}
17:21:28 <pikhq> !i 3 Well, I've got cat in Glass. . . I think this might be a bit more robust then the Brainfuck version. . .\n
17:21:30 <EgoBot> Well, I've got cat in Glass. . . I think this might be a bit more robust then the Brainfuck version. . .
17:22:04 <GregorR-W> Since I wrote the BF interpreter EgoBot uses ;)
17:22:29 <GregorR-W> 21101 egobot 35 10 2684 1028 816 R 93.0 0.2 0:12.89 glass
17:22:30 <pikhq> I think the issue is more with EgoBot's IRC binding.
17:22:54 <pikhq> !i 3 Jebus\nThats a lot\nof\nCPU time.\n
17:23:16 <GregorR-W> This is where I say, "Whoever said hyperthreading doesn't produce any noticeable effects can go suck a horse, I can still use my system."
17:23:28 <GregorR-W> pikhq: Dood, you EOF'd it, why do you think that'll work?
17:23:57 <pikhq> GregorR-W: Because my code was supposedly set up as while(1), not while(no_eof).
17:24:19 <GregorR-W> pikhq: But once you've EOF'd it, you're not going to get any more data to it :P
17:24:32 <EgoBot> 1 EgoBot: daemon cat reload
17:24:34 <EgoBot> 2 EgoBot: daemon EgoBot reload
17:26:38 <pikhq> {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!(_temp)<1>=/(_temp)(_temp)(_i)l.?=*(_o)o.?\]} Will that make it die on EOF?
17:27:00 <GregorR-W> Don't remember what I called that :P
17:31:25 <pikhq> !glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!(_a)A!(_temp)<1>=/(_temp)(_i)l.?(_temp)(_i)e.=(_temp)(1)(_a)e./(_temp)(_temp)(0)=\(_a)(_o)o.?\]}
17:31:33 <pikhq> !i 3 Hoping. . .\n
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18:12:16 <lament> ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
18:22:33 <ihope> Sorry, I don't speak French.
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19:40:18 * pikhq plays with IRP. . .
19:40:49 <pikhq> Please, someone output a program which translates Brainfuck code to its Malbolge equivalent.
19:42:04 <GregorR-W> When you ask me to jump, I'll say ...
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19:45:40 <pikhq> BTW, I've proven IRP Turing-complete.
19:45:50 <pikhq> IRP#eosteric, at least, supports the EgoBot command set.
19:45:55 <pikhq> So, one simply does:
19:46:24 <GregorR-W> Commands have to be in polite English command form.
19:47:36 <pikhq> "Would someone please output '!bf $code', and then '!ps', and do '!i $number_of_process $input'?"
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19:51:46 * pikhq is working on his presentation for the LUG right now. . .
19:51:57 <pikhq> What esoteric languages should I put in besides Brainfuck?
19:52:28 <GregorR-W> Befunge, maybe an honorable mention for BitChanger (merely because it's Turing complete and BF-like but with a smaller command set)
19:52:49 <pikhq> GregorR-W: Glass it is!
19:52:58 <GregorR-W> It'd be good to put a functional one in.
20:04:10 <pikhq> Or I could just bullshit about Brainfuck for a couple of hours. :p
20:04:46 <GregorR-W> 2L, FYB, ORK and Glass. What else could you possibly need? :P
20:05:46 <ihope> The language with only one instruction.
20:06:04 <fuse> is that like OISC?
20:06:30 <ihope> Yeah, but the one instruction has no parameters or anything.
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21:48:57 <pikhq> Got a presentation done. Whoo.
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