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02:51:37 <sparr_> What types of pens/markers would be suitable for drawing with my own custom "ink" comprised of a fine particulate suspended in water? Someone pointed out radiograph pens to me, what other options are there?
02:55:57 <RodgerTheGreat> might I ask what this is for?
02:58:45 <RodgerTheGreat> Seems like felt-tip pens would fail because they would tend to filter the water from the particulate. In general, I suppose a traditional fountain pen might do the trick.
02:59:55 <sparr_> aye, i already tried a refillable "sharpie" clone
03:00:00 <sparr_> the tip does filter far too much
03:00:05 <RodgerTheGreat> yeah
03:00:15 <sparr_> the water isnt viscuous enough for a normal fountain pen
03:00:29 <Razor-X> A quill!
03:00:55 <RodgerTheGreat> have you tried any rollerball-type pens? Normal ballpoints depend on a pressurized cartridge, but many rollerballs are gravity-feed.
03:01:02 <sparr_> heh, a quill is a tempting proposition, but real quills are UV-transparent and i need something in a UV-opaque container. i could paint it, but that would look even dumber
03:01:13 <RodgerTheGreat> heh
03:01:15 <sparr_> the particulate isnt fine enough to use a roller pen
03:01:22 <RodgerTheGreat> dayum.
03:01:37 <Razor-X> Or any other such object that can hold a particulate and whose tip can be fined to mimic a writing implement.
03:01:39 <sparr_> the ink is UV reactive, has to stay 'in the dark' until its used
03:01:48 <Razor-X> I think thick grass works quicte well too.
03:01:53 <Razor-X> *quite
03:02:07 <RodgerTheGreat> hm. an interesting idea
03:03:03 <RodgerTheGreat> what are you looking for, line-thickness wise?
03:03:34 <Razor-X> My 10 minute port of RawIRC is very exciting. It connects to a simulated IRC server that says ``This is a message!'' in the message window, and you can also write onto this make-believe server. Of course, it can't handle such trivialities like Backspace.
03:03:45 <Razor-X> Or should I say DELETE, in UNIX terms.
03:03:50 <RodgerTheGreat> cool
03:04:08 <RodgerTheGreat> what is it for, aside from mental stimulation?
03:04:32 <Razor-X> Just to get a bit of practice for writing a real IRC client that I want to write to address a good few issues with irssi.
03:04:46 <Razor-X> Plus this is a version of RawIRC extensible in the language it's written in!
03:05:01 <RodgerTheGreat> oooh. bonus.
03:05:15 <Razor-X> I'm gonna add a few more features, like the ability to define your own macro.
03:05:36 <Razor-X> I may add an actual line style text-buffer, but that'll be a pain to implement.
03:06:16 <RodgerTheGreat> seems like all you could possibly want for a macro language would be a slightly modified implementation of BF.
03:06:53 <Razor-X> Bah. Just an RC file with a glossed-over API to the actual internals of the macro parser.
03:07:25 <RodgerTheGreat> hm.
03:07:52 <RodgerTheGreat> a simpler solution, perhaps, but less exciting.
03:13:58 <sparr_> RodgerTheGreat: .1mm ish
03:14:39 <RodgerTheGreat> that's actually extremely fine- I think my best drawing pens are .2mm. :S
03:15:09 <sparr_> ahh
03:15:37 <sparr_> the pens im looking at now go quite a bit lower
03:15:47 <RodgerTheGreat> yeesh
03:15:48 <sparr_> .2mm would be usable though
03:15:58 <sparr_> im not especially picky on size, the ink is going to spread significantly
03:16:05 <RodgerTheGreat> I have to ask again, what is this for?
03:16:33 <sparr_> silver nitrate tattooing
03:16:46 <Razor-X> ...... :P
03:17:18 <sparr_> i have been using applicators directly, but the level of control and detail is quite lacking
03:17:37 <sparr_> so im considering trying to dissolve it into solution myself and use a pen of some sort
03:20:45 <RodgerTheGreat> hm.
03:21:14 <sparr_> the trick is finding something with reliable flow
03:21:18 <sparr_> since the "ink" is invisible
03:21:24 <sparr_> gaps in the flow would suck
03:21:31 <RodgerTheGreat> until it stains the skin, of course.
03:21:32 <sparr_> but so would over-flow
03:21:45 <sparr_> its still invisible until it gets a good dose of UV
03:30:16 <Razor-X> AgNO3!
03:37:21 <sparr_> yep, that stuff
03:37:39 <sparr_> in quite non-toxic quantities, don't let the wikipedia page or MSDS scare you :)
03:46:21 <Razor-X> I know enough about AgNO3 through Chemistry class :P.
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