< 1159833621 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159835360 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1159842228 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-225-233.dhcp.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159842674 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.migniot.com/matrix/projects/jsvim < Does this work for any of you? < 1159845553 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem to work here < 1159849026 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1159849706 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159850200 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159850815 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1159850963 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1159852735 0 :Eidolos!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159854512 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159857883 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159860001 0 :Eidolos!n=Sartak@c-24-128-121-242.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159862113 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159862381 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client" < 1159862399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1159862400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1159864054 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159864928 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159866487 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-67-117-27-48.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159868986 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159869289 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1159873207 0 :jix!n=jix@L633a.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159876877 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159877921 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159883153 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@cpc3-stkn2-0-0-cust384.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159883379 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159883381 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@cpc3-stkn2-0-0-cust384.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159883382 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Asztal < 1159884654 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159885918 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1159886342 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h14.244.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159887347 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust919.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159887350 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Asztal < 1159889577 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1159893923 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh < 1159893932 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate when I get weird indention errors in Python that make absolutely no sense. < 1159895011 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159898985 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1159899465 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h14.244.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159901221 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-203-179.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159902035 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1159902218 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION really, really hates the subtlety of these $#@% bugs < 1159902261 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what bug? < 1159902605 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159902607 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo < 1159902612 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1159902624 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :en < 1159902644 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi was too obvious) < 1159902653 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1159902663 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1159902665 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1159902678 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo = low, hi = high ?? < 1159902686 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1159902696 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1159902703 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasnt supposed to be like that < 1159902703 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyho < 1159902740 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still havn't solved twenty :P < 1159902777 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, cheat like i accidentally did < 1159902808 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or let's restate: < 1159902822 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if twenty -> twnt, then twentyone -> ? < 1159902825 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i cant find anythin on google < 1159902849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i googled for twnt < 1159902885 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm, maybe i cheated on purpose that time. don't remember.) < 1159902980 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159902982 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :disconn! < 1159903012 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could someone kick boblol? (thas me) < 1159903067 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr34k: use nickserv. < 1159903177 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1159903269 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr34k: /msg nickserv help < 1159903274 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do /msg nickserv ghost , i think < 1159903331 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oki < 1159903349 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1159903386 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, is there any difference between ghost and recover? < 1159903443 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1159903447 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1159903624 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol|afk < 1159903742 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I know for sure is that, somehow, *temp2=0;*temp2+=1; leaves (*temp2==0). < 1159903829 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds rather impossible. < 1159903875 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Begin: GDB flood < 1159903879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gdb) print *temp2 < 1159903879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$16 = 0 '\0' < 1159903879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gdb) set variable *temp2++ < 1159903879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gdb) print *temp2 < 1159903879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$17 = 0 '\0' < 1159903881 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gdb) < 1159903897 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That. . . Doesn't seem possible. < 1159903962 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, *temp2++ might actually increment temp2, not *temp2. not quite sure. < 1159904021 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i seem to recall something about pre-/postfix C operators acting from right to left. < 1159904033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . It *did*. < 1159904036 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAH! < 1159904046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++*temp2;? < 1159904049 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however that would not explain *temp2+=1. < 1159904060 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code is currentlt *temp2++. < 1159904117 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, move ++ or use parentheses < 1159904137 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's script generated code. . . < 1159904144 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION curses at pointer arithmetic < 1159904161 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFM? < 1159904173 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159904174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1159904176 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFM2C < 1159904196 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i meant < 1159904235 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, have the script insert parentheses. < 1159904872 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159906063 0 :boblol|afk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq? < 1159907395 0 :boblol|afk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1159909011 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1159910973 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.09" < 1159911342 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159912489 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159913793 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-202-70.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159914772 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159914773 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Fru Ibsens ripsbusker og andre buskvekster" < 1159917560 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159917586 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My biology teacher told me to study, and I studied. < 1159917595 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't study much, of course. < 1159917633 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my pre-calc teacher told me to study too, but I don't feel like it. < 1159917654 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for English, there's some homework that probably isn't due tomorrow. < 1159917662 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same for pre-calc. < 1159917939 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've decided I'm done with homework for today. < 1159918026 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . You in HS, too? < 1159918069 0 :|wez|!n=jkaslskj@158.38.24.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159918419 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the criteria for a language to be Turing-complete? < 1159918426 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. < 1159918432 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be turing-complete. < 1159918445 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It needs to be (theoretically) capable of computing anything that can be computed. < 1159918455 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be equivalent in power to a turing-machine, or better. < 1159918472 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The easiest way of proving this is proving that one can translate Brainfuck into the language. ;) < 1159918560 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am working on my first Esoteric language, but I guess it is not turing-complete then =) < 1159918588 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What commands does it have? < 1159918600 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nocluestudios.com/MonkeyCode/ < 1159918638 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*echm* Would it kill you to make it free software? < 1159918693 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I plan to do it < 1159918693 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all your code are ... nevermind < 1159918756 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "free", I do of course mean "allow all to use, study, share, and change". ;) < 1159918780 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know... < 1159918784 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without that, it might not ever run on my OS, anyways. . . < 1159918790 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a GNU/Linux user < 1159918816 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, .exe, what's that? < 1159918825 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wants to clean up the source and stuff, before I release the source < 1159918858 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1159918867 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: A Windows binary. < 1159918874 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gross, ain't it? < 1159918886 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, those things that sometimes get sent in email attachments that my ISP marks as a virus < 1159918891 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it now < 1159918924 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoke time brb < 1159918931 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Ugly stuff. < 1159918942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear that it doesn't even really do AMD64. < 1159919211 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't amd mobile sempron 64 bit? < 1159919225 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1159919236 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the OS you're using probably isn't. ;) < 1159919314 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it isn't =P < 1159919403 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any comments about MonkeyCode? < 1159919441 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A) Needs a branching operation B) Needs to be free software. < 1159919571 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) I don't understand what you mean, since english isn't my first language b)It will be soon,GPL or public domain < 1159919730 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A branching operation would mean something like a conditional "GOTO" statement (or something similar). . . < 1159919787 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck has the [], BASIC has IF, C has if() {} & while() {}, and Tcl has if {} {} & while {} {}. < 1159919816 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without that, you're not Turing complete. < 1159919846 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand < 1159919879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have nothing of that sort. . . < 1159919885 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1159919890 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is on my list < 1159919894 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of things to do