< 1160006600 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1160006636 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aura? < 1160006639 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language with no spec? < 1160006686 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing a spec now, reverse engineering the interpreter < 1160006731 0 :RodgerTh1Great!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1160006802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yay! < 1160006830 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 chars! < 1160006857 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how do I enter the contest? < 1160006948 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, is wrapping allowed? < 1160006977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Wrapping is allowed. . . < 1160006994 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just tell him the amount of chars (he'll ask for code once all is said and done). < 1160007002 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, in a /msg ? < 1160007010 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1160007216 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes < 1160007368 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, "in a /msg" means very little :-P < 1160007375 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, you can /msg a channel. < 1160007388 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And doing so is identical to speaking in it "normally". < 1160007536 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: it means to me I tell him on irc < 1160007551 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs email, webpage, etc < 1160007555 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1160007562 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it means little beyond IRC. < 1160007595 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I don't use that sadistic irc client, it seems fine to me < 1160007642 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadistic? < 1160007695 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RawIRC, no doubt. < 1160007756 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1160007794 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does RawIRC have for "special" character input? < 1160007804 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever your terminal supports ;) < 1160007813 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sucks. < 1160007818 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then not a lot :P < 1160007819 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1160007828 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, my workday is over, so bye :P < 1160007836 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya gregor < 1160007848 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"kill(getpid(), SIG_IVE_RAN_OUT_OF_ORIGINAL_THINGS_TO_PUT_HERE)" < 1160008970 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1160010013 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now there is a description of Aura on the wiki. < 1160010400 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmon.. someone challenge my 40.. that was my first design < 1160010641 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, it's a bad idea to write esoteric programming languages without the specs. < 1160010664 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C interpreters usually have limited memory, since programmers are lazy. < 1160010957 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in the case of Aura the limit doesn't make much difference. < 1160010993 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, i mean... < 1160011027 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty obvious how to remove it. < 1160011045 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the buggy boundary conditions are another matter. < 1160011146 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, global C arrays are initialized to zero, aren't they? < 1160011178 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the a[5000] is likely to be just before the f[5000] array. < 1160011247 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is probable, but not guaranteed, that the program memory will be surrounded by an amount of zero bytes. < 1160011771 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. an aura program of the form 4 4 6 (mod 8) should then end up creating a trail of 6's out of the program. < 1160012029 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, DDF seems to work. < 1160012170 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DDF? < 1160012173 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double Data Flow? < 1160012200 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the string "DDF" as an Aura program. (no trailing newline) < 1160012214 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1160012225 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i forgot about the automatic null at the end, but it still works. < 1160012300 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually 446 should work as well. < 1160012741 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How cute. < 1160013167 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, 443 should allow some program input to fill memory. < 1160013404 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm interpreting an Aura program by hand, and I need a character of input. < 1160013642 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's the one i suggested then i am trying out 3333477 < 1160013650 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as input) < 1160013703 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1160013716 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs that one instead < 1160014025 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, now i wonder if it is actually possible to escape from the left side of the program < 1160014060 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would require replacing the null at program end with something == 4 (mod 8) < 1160014258 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-225-125.dhcp.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1160014581 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. 0643, with input 04. < 1160014728 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program stopped. probably not zeros to the left of the array memory? < 1160016019 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. how to output a character == 4 (mod 8), several times < 1160017802 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1160018708 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :38 characters. < 1160018723 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(second try.) < 1160018739 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1160018778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you guys doing that?!? < 1160018792 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will be amazed if it gets below 26 < 1160018861 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, well. Only on my second try. < 1160018871 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can always (try) to go lower. ;) < 1160020713 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1160022519 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160022527 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1160022537 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone top 40 yet? < 1160022581 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reads) scrollback < 1160022588 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course.. dbc < 1160022591 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1160023154 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1160023339 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo. < 1160023356 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm curious how you got down to 40, calamari. . . < 1160024573 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: nothing too special actually < 1160024639 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1160024878 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be able to get it down if I used wrapping.. dunno < 1160024884 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would have to write a program to see < 1160027865 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160028497 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160028738 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION really needs to go to sleep in -1:12 hours.. < 1160029608 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION Mi devas dormi! < 1160029626 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mi devas dormi! < 1160029775 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mi estas dormando. < 1160029840 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gxis revido! < 1160031255 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1160031256 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1160032764 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1160035057 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1160035199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1160035200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1160036742 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1160036774 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1160039998 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@201.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160041598 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong" < 1160041738 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1160044038 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1160046609 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1160049563 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what brainfuck golf you people are talking about? where?! < 1160049711 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1160049883 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : the challenge: output the lowercase letters a through z < 1160049906 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a. i guess it hasn't been informed elsewhere than here, then? < 1160049922 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, oerjan, i updated the article how 446 is executed, if interested ;) < 1160049927 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was here that i heard about it < 1160049939 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"here"? < 1160049951 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel < 1160049963 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- golf < 1160049967 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah < 1160049989 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you talked about that aura article :) < 1160049991 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, aura too, you told about your new programs < 1160050016 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i went looking for the spec and there was none < 1160050020 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1160050244 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am almost convinced it is impossible to write "Hello, World!", i don't see a way to get "ll" and my attempt yesterday for "o," failed although not conclusively < 1160050257 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1160050264 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and space brings problems too < 1160050289 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only good part is there are no 3 (mod 8) in there, so at least you avoid input < 1160050336 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure, but i'd think a program that outputs the same character infinite times is impossible as well < 1160050340 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :space is 0, which is tricky but not impossible. < 1160050343 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been trying to make that, but no success < 1160050367 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i couldn't get it working -- i had the next character 160, but it seems the interpreter doesn't read it in :( < 1160050369 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32, 5*32 < 1160050373 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least my didn't < 1160050378 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1160050385 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. can you get it working? < 1160050453 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought every character could be read in except 0 < 1160050471 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using the interpreter referenced from the wiki? < 1160050475 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i am < 1160050649 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, just tried again, just in case, and the interpreter seems to quit reading when it encounters that 160 < 1160050735 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1160050740 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1160050758 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may use signed chars, so the > 0 test means < 128 < 1160050784 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not portable < 1160050915 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it didn't it would _never_ stop, since it couldn't recognize EOF. unless you put an actual NUL there. < 1160050965 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yea. so eof is 255 in this? < 1160051000 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely. technically EOF does not fit in char. < 1160051004 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1160051053 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hard thing about fixing the interpreter is knowing what are bugs and what are features < 1160051094 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. however, what are bugs in there (in your opinion), if any? < 1160051115 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads up < 1160051120 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the memory accesses outside the program < 1160051142 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's a feature < 1160051148 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might be reasonable to embed in NULs < 1160051165 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, but it is not well-defined as it is < 1160051181 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, indeed, as it isn't defined at all :) < 1160051230 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the wrapping was probably not meant to skip the first instruction at the other end < 1160051288 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can't go to the first instruction (byte 0), unless you're travelling to left < 1160051297 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so take the interpreter for what it is, but what about the char sign issues < 1160051316 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1160051386 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the actual intention was for the program to form a circle < 1160051412 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd make "sense" < 1160051423 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it's quite nice bug if it is a bug, to allow that infinite increasing :) < 1160051453 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are just so many things in the interpreter that could be just off-by-one errors < 1160051464 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1160051482 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, for example that the program always starts at 2 instead of 1, doesn't make much sense < 1160051516 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean why the ip is initially 1? < 1160051535 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. it "should" be 0, but two off-by-one errors change it < 1160051574 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the best could've been e-mail the author, which i never tried :) < 1160051590 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i said yesterday it could seem like the implementer didn't know C arrays index from 0 < 1160051609 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can be < 1160051741 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps a "cleaned-up" dialect is in order < 1160051768 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, it might actually turn out to be _less_ powerful < 1160051785 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how that's even possible? :D hehe < 1160051808 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there would be no special behavior at the edges. < 1160051818 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a uniform ring < 1160051822 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just joking.. < 1160051899 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and we could make the cells be unbounded integers < 1160051955 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. and what about the instruction set? < 1160051993 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instruction set: the same. it would be just a removal of bugs and needless limitations < 1160052006 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1160052041 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think that'd allow making more complex programs? i guess not < 1160052080 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tihnks that BF golf should really be in ##brainfuck  < 1160052151 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about making a 9th instruction that "jumps forward x bytes"? and x is the value of that byte? < 1160052265 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1160052269 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1160052335 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats crackin < 1160052660 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keymaker: that might help some < 1160052681 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simonRC: i thought maybe that's where the golf started? < 1160052747 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know where i might get bfbasic 1.4? sourceforge isn't cooperating < 1160052757 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :39 on my second try. < 1160053204 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can the array wrap? < 1160054352 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am adding something about portability to the aura page. basically only bytes 1-127, except for a single 0 at the end. < 1160054363 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1160054416 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust919.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1160054418 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Asztal < 1160054439 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jó napot < 1160054494 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jó napot kívanok :) < 1160054501 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :á < 1160054535 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw my hungarian doesn't go very much further than that :) < 1160054613 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither, I'm english < 1160054619 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1160054658 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. but your nick is hungarian right? < 1160054726 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1160055190 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could someone confirm whether global C arrays are zero initialized? < 1160055216 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think yes < 1160055229 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's what i've always assumed in my programs :) < 1160055259 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think i've asked here the same, and got "yes" as reply < 1160055295 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, so that clarifies your point in the Aura page < 1160055319 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1160055370 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooby: Calamari's website. < 1160055421 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll change 0-terminated to 0-padded, then < 1160055425 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kidsquid.com/old/compilers/bfbasic/index.html < 1160055431 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1160055468 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I must insist on shamelessly whoring BFM. http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bfm.html < 1160055472 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int x[10000] = {0}; < 1160055476 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would make sure :P < 1160055985 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: erm 404? < 1160056148 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a moment. it must be "zero-terminated" to explain the wrapping < 1160056223 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/esoteric.html Sorry. < 1160057290 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :38. < 1160057305 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when does the golf end? < 1160057427 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here's its md5: 8b0811ef2088e5998e0994435bc55f9d < 1160058342 0 :|wez|!n=jkaslskj@158.38.24.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1160058374 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: how untrusting you are < 1160058392 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? :) < 1160058397 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who is running the competition?! < 1160058407 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm confused! is it rodgerthegreat? < 1160058417 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or paparent? < 1160058450 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey :) < 1160058453 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's me < 1160058459 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to be assuming there is actually some organization here < 1160058467 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) < 1160058474 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be rigth, of course < 1160058484 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you might not < 1160061558 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Where shall we have lunch?" < 1160061666 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1160062971 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone here who can help me integrate a while interation into MonkeyCode? I cant figure out how I can do it =\ < 1160066072 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"If you're reading this, it's probably xchat's fault." < 1160066089 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1160067229 0 :Cymor!n=Cymor@unaffiliated/cymor JOIN :#esoteric < 1160067249 0 :Cymor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1160067269 0 :Cymor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out what language a program was written in. < 1160067685 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cymor: Were you hoping that everyone would just hazard a guess? < 1160067695 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cymor: Pascal! < 1160067713 0 :Cymor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1160067719 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I'm sure of it < 1160067735 0 :Cymor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. < 1160067774 0 :Cymor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never learned Pascal. < 1160067866 0 :Cymor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sekhmet: What's your favorite esoteric language? < 1160067954 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had to pick one, I still have a deep fondness for Shakespeare < 1160068041 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm only a very casual esoteric-language appreciator, so my actual experience in the field is quite light < 1160068171 0 :Cymor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1160068190 0 :Cymor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always been a fan of ASM, but it's not that esoteric. < 1160068207 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Befunge fan < 1160068384 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johoo MonkeyCode Have now a working "while interation" =) < 1160068954 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160069120 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@167.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1160069952 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how to make his code shorter < 1160070016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really having difficulty getting it below 42. . . :/ < 1160070017 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a smaller font < 1160070063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smaller character count. < 1160070096 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I knew, but I felt it was obligatory :) < 1160070096 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I can find a smaller, wrapping way of getting 25 in a cell, of course. . . < 1160070296 0 :Cymor!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1160071183 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found a 41 as well < 1160071393 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, 39 < 1160071406 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still doesn't meat dbc's 38 tho < 1160071413 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol.. beat < 1160072993 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody who can help me whit this code? http://rafb.net/paste/results/PtzWEi85.html < 1160073006 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1160073020 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1160073065 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1160073085 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some bizarre language i don't understand < 1160073092 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like C++, eek < 1160073135 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparing a var to a string. . does c++ do that for you? < 1160073148 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering that too < 1160073388 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every thing exept "else if(temp=="kak.ook.kok")BinFile.put (OP_ADD_TO_LOOPREG);" works perfectly < 1160073432 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes c++ lets you compare a string var with a string < 1160073521 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :std::string provides the overloads :) < 1160073740 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we're just posting code, http://rafb.net/paste/results/1wTfRt53.html :) < 1160074074 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :temp _is_ an std::string, right? < 1160074085 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just found a 40-char version. . . < 1160074287 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VICTORY!! < 1160074291 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . 38 chars. < 1160074316 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 char! < 1160074372 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-200-217.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1160074397 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now tied for first place < 1160074399 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1160074496 0 :feesh!n=Feesh@81.168.73.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1160074504 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat just said that you all suck at basic :O < 1160074552 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define that in one of two ways. Either: < 1160074564 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) Nobody sucks at BASIC, because a trained monkey can harness its entire power. < 1160074565 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1160074565 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feesh: not what I said. < 1160074582 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) Everybody sucks at BASIC, because it's a worthless language and you can't (or at least shouldn't) write anything useful in it. < 1160074604 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll I guess it wasn't exactly as I said it < 1160074622 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he claims dominance over the basic language and no one in here could beat him :O < 1160074625 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that I may not be as good with BF as some people here, but I'm by far better with a particular obscure flavor of basic- Cbaspad. < 1160074647 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cbaspad is in some ways nearly an esolang. < 1160074651 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably are, but that's no feat :P < 1160074653 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will no one rise to the challenge? A challenge with no consequences < 1160074658 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nore anything to be proud of ;) < 1160074708 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha- I'd reserve judgement on that until you've played with the language, GregorR-L. < 1160074733 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat has made a 3d engine in it < 1160074739 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not seen many 3D engines in basic myself < 1160074740 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a deriv of BASIC, it's worthless :) < 1160074754 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because it's Turing Complete doesn't mean it's not worthless ;) < 1160074762 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1160074766 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is with that turing jive < 1160074781 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - map: http://www.frappr.com/esolang - forum: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/forum/ - EgoBot: !help - wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or http://meme.b9.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric - for brainfuck-specific discussion, go to ##brainfuck - competition: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/2006 < 1160074792 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose having inline assembly capabilities makes a language useless, eh? < 1160074813 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that language is BASIC, definitely. Doesn't it have variants for its data type? So it doesn't really map well. < 1160074836 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used asm with basic.. works fine < 1160074877 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my book, any language that can do a JSR to an arbitrary location in memory is powerful. < 1160074921 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone reckon they could out put the lowercase alphabet using bf in under 38 characters, without using an input < 1160074944 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I think 38 is it < 1160074977 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1160074981 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1160074983 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1160074987 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Show me one 8-D < 1160075004 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha "pbrain" < 1160075011 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linguine < 1160075016 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: show you one what? < 1160075018 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man I would learn those just to say I've used them < 1160075022 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone try !bf_txtgen abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz? Perhaps it's intelligent < 1160075034 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: lol < 1160075035 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: I'd download the real one to try that :) < 1160075037 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard the best it came up with was something around 200 < 1160075061 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard it made one that was 118... < 1160075078 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard I can be an inaccurate source of information < 1160075110 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever happened to jix's text gen ? < 1160075126 0 :jix!n=jix@brmn-d9bbe6c6.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160075141 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay thats just freaky :) < 1160075142 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1160075157 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: [2:03pm] calamari: whatever happened to jix's text gen ? < 1160075169 0 :int-e!n=noone@p54B3E440.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160075194 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*echm* < 1160075196 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WIN!!! < 1160075200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has hit 36 < 1160075203 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1160075209 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: jix: [2:03pm] calamari: whatever happened to jix's text gen ? < 1160075232 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: [2:04pm] GregorR-L: jix: jix: [2:03pm] calamari: whatever happened to jix's text gen ? < 1160075237 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: bullshit. < 1160075239 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. . . < 1160075242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. That's 35. < 1160075246 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1160075249 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: I assure you, I hit 35. < 1160075250 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: !bf8 it < 1160075259 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't wait to see this < 1160075259 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone called us idiots! < 1160075271 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is I < 1160075272 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :muahaha < 1160075281 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my textgen is stored on my backup disk is written in lisp and anyone except me wont be able to run it! < 1160075294 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: just curious.. wrapping or not wrapping? < 1160075300 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog: jix: [2:04pm] GregorR-L: jix: jix: [2:03pm] calamari: whatever happened to jix's text gen ? < 1160075303 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: double negative < 1160075304 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paparent: Let me know when you call the contest "done", so I can feel free to show the code without giving away clues to others. < 1160075312 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Wrapping. < 1160075322 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: nice < 1160075334 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did it in 24 :( < 1160075339 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using input though < 1160075341 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1160075344 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I was told you can't use input < 1160075351 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.,] < 1160075370 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just < 1160075371 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: need a way to quit there < 1160075372 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[,.] < 1160075384 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feesh: because the loop wont be entered < 1160075392 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1160075394 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1160075397 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tell me < 1160075397 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I assume 0 on EOF < 1160075402 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they start at 0 < 1160075422 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have do whilst loops <: ( < 1160075426 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: I see < 1160075435 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{,.} < 1160075439 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1160075443 0 :int-e!i=warlock-@p54B3E440.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160075451 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts off fbf < 1160075457 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1160075496 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no.. another bf derivative? < 1160075511 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bleedining many of them < 1160075535 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: you're talking about |wez|'s thing? < 1160075535 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh I'm content with none < 1160075547 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you should be proud.. pretty tough to beat dbc :) < 1160075556 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feesh: it *is* a while loop, when you think about it. < 1160075560 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: * feesh starts off fbf < 1160075564 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i updated the page :P < 1160075567 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: yeah < 1160075568 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1160075569 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1160075570 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a do ... while < 1160075574 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice tho :P < 1160075593 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda a while...do while loop, actually. < 1160075596 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I wait, or we could end the challenge soon .. < 1160075603 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: nope... just a do while < 1160075605 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if 35 can be beaten :P < 1160075609 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes a brainfuck derivative, replacing the symbols with 12345678 < 1160075611 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo a new language! < 1160075616 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1160075621 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pounds his head against a wall. < 1160075625 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices a distinct lack of text on that page < 1160075675 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int i = 0; do { i++; } while(i!=0); < 1160075685 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you accept that that is just a do and a while < 1160075688 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no while, do while :| < 1160075735 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it supposed to be: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/2006 or was there more? < 1160075764 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Join #egobot - I'm not in the competition and can verify that it's really 35 (and #egobot is +i ) < 1160075816 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the record: I don't doubt pikhq's claim of 35 < 1160075855 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys: Gonna stop the BF Golf at 15:00 gmt-5, some people has 35 bytes now :) That was the first challenge, just for fun. I gonna work on a more official one with some more advance feature and maybe teams :P If anyone interrested to do some challenge (Invent one) well, go ahead, and soon i'll have a website for that to submit challenge ideas < 1160075907 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, teams sounds interesting... has that been done before? < 1160075929 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could make it a great deal more fun. < 1160075950 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less cutthroat, at least. < 1160075979 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cutthroat is good! < 1160076006 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I somehow knew gregor would say that. < 1160076010 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-D < 1160076018 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cuts RodgerTheGreat's throat. < 1160076039 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha! fool. I don't keep my veins there anymore. < 1160076048 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor your windpipe? < 1160076053 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1160076058 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he uses another orifice :O? < 1160076062 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shakes his fist. < 1160076067 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my throat is mainly for decorative purposes. < 1160076081 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not now that I slashed it up! < 1160076104 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider it modern art. < 1160076110 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snaps* < 1160076169 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1160077170 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1160077724 0 :int-e!i=warlock-@p54B3E440.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160077802 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1160078090 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - map: http://www.frappr.com/esolang - forum: http://esolangs.org/forum/ - EgoBot: !help - wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or http://meme.b9.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric - for brainfuck-specific discussion, go to ##brainfuck - competition: http://esolangs.org/wiki/2006_Esolang_Contest < 1160078407 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen on Slashdot: "I like caving, and I have grown a moustache the same width as my body to stop me from getting trapped in narrow caves." < 1160078411 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1160078465 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that moustache's width wouldn't be its weirdest property < 1160078488 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it really can stop him from getting trapped < 1160078584 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonono, the moustache is used to sense the width of passages. < 1160078602 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he is a cat too? :) < 1160078689 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck Golf #1 is done now.. You can PM your solution :P congrats to pikhq !! < 1160078712 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1? < 1160078742 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there have been others before, in ancient times < 1160078757 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspected as much < 1160078781 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were at least 3 < 1160078859 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we see the winning solution? < 1160079270 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, have to wait to ppl send it to me ... < 1160079281 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq doesn't seem to be there < 1160079923 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, now MonkeyCode is Turing-complete...I hope < 1160080296 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimist! < 1160080360 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know I am =) < 1160080375 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to be turing-complete < 1160080379 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i sold my loops < 1160080392 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can now post some challenge ideas on http://paparent.nonlogic.org/bfgolf/ < 1160080404 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :always look on the bright side of life < 1160080845 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /home/paparent/htdocs/html/inc/bfl.php on line 91 < 1160080852 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's good to know. < 1160080900 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 35 bytes) in < 1160080905 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's also good to know. < 1160081059 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: lol... first was because infinite loop < 1160081467 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160081504 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h252.246.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160082835 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160083046 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1160083778 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1160084527 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1160085045 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1160086322 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/93811.aspx < 1160086758 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paparent did you get my message that time? < 1160088158 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1160088161 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1160088163 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1160088194 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Elaine sux < 1160088209 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :104 ++++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++++>++++++++>+++<<<<-]>---.>.>+.++++++++.+++++.<-------.>>----.<+++++.++.+++. [195] < 1160088280 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf8 ++++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++++>++++++++>+++<<<<-]>---.>.>+.++++++++.+++++.<-------.>>----.<+++++.++.+++. < 1160088283 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elaine sux < 1160088405 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Soulless Teat Grabbing Assassin < 1160088431 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :233 ++++++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>-.>-.++++++.>----..-------.<--..>>++++.<<<+.>>.----.<+.>>.<--------------------------.<--.<+++++++++++++.+..+++++++.>----.-------.>>.<------.<<++++++++++..>------.<..----------.+++++. [963] < 1160088729 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Great. < 1160088735 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just found out something. . . < 1160088748 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bfgolf code is, in fact, 31 characters. < 1160088754 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been miscounting it. XD < 1160088765 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rolls his eyes < 1160088792 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously. < 1160088803 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, if he's paying attention, can vouch for me. < 1160088805 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know you need to provide proof? i couldn't get below 38 myself < 1160088841 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR has seen my code & executed it. < 1160088842 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the golf is over so you can reveal it < 1160088846 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1160088850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1160088925 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. Been done for 6 hours. < 1160088936 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf8 --[+++++>->++<<]>----->[--<.+>] < 1160088939 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz < 1160088942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's proof enough for me. < 1160088988 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. Not been for 6 hours, but yeah. . . It's done. < 1160088989 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*must* *understand* *this* *code* < 1160089023 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever use of overflow < 1160089025 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 hours < 1160089045 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I was done *just* under time. < 1160089077 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again: if GregorR is listening, he can vouch for me (I showed it to him a few hours ago) < 1160089122 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw: http://paparent.nonlogic.org/bfgolf/ < 1160089231 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... so who can replicate the first page of the bible with the fewest characters in BF? < 1160089238 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz < 1160089246 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Txtgen sucks. < 1160089254 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just seeing what it looks like. < 1160089261 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :94 ++++++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++++>><<<<-]>-.+.+.>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+. [633] < 1160089267 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Give sample text; we can't know what the first page is that you want. < 1160089267 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1160089282 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>><< ... < 1160089300 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION curses at wc < 1160089308 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that is remarkably bad. < 1160089333 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's unique. < 1160089340 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the txtgen code :) < 1160089343 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer my solution. ;) < 1160089486 0 :wooby_!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1160089537 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lols: http://forums.programming-designs.com/viewtopic.php?id=102 < 1160089581 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the was without form, and voice; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said. Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.... < 1160089582 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...And the evening and the morning were the first day. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the... < 1160089583 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...second day. < 1160089585 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That. < 1160089591 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil. < 1160089600 0 :wooby_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1160089606 0 :wooby_!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1160089608 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... I typoed it. < 1160089658 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1160089692 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said. Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And called the light Day, and the darkness he called... < 1160089694 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were... < 1160089695 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the second day. < 1160089697 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1160089718 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! bf_txt gen In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said. Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And called the light Day, and the darkness... < 1160089720 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the... < 1160089721 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1160089721 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...morning were the second day. < 1160089723 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1160089733 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!kick CakeProphet < 1160089736 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1160089741 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1160089746 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txt gen In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said. Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And called the light Day, and the darkness... < 1160089749 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the... < 1160089749 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1160089750 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...morning were the second day. < 1160089752 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1160089753 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh < 1160089760 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries again. < 1160089778 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bftxt_gen In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said. Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And called the light Day, and the darkness... < 1160089779 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the... < 1160089781 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...morning were the second day. < 1160089781 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1160089787 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1160089792 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1160089794 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1160089797 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kicks CakeProphet < 1160089804 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP SPAMMING!!! < 1160089810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: if you don't stop flooding the channel, we shall have to make you do it by hand. in the original hebrew. < 1160089816 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1160089819 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 SimonRC: ps < 1160089835 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was trying to get it to work. :( < 1160089885 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot cannot make texts that long anyhow < 1160089916 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pmed it to egobot :D < 1160090022 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now even more of a winner than he was. :) < 1160090112 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo all, im bck :P < 1160090113 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1160090121 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in the Bible instance... it would be easier to save each character to a sale... then move the arrays around to get the desired characters. < 1160090129 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss the solution from calamari and keymaster < 1160090169 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap... < 1160090169 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION demands an opinion on his solution < 1160090189 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++[>++>++>+++++++++>++++++<<<<-]>>>>+.<++.<++++++++.>++++++.>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.---.<<.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>>.<<+++++.++.+++++.>>+++++++++.-----.<------.-------.<<++++++++.>>--------------------------------.>++++++.<<----------.<.>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++.<+.----.>>+++++.<<<++++++++ < 1160090194 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the beginning God creat < 1160090196 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1160090198 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1160090201 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry, i'm busy laughing at simonRC's latest url < 1160090221 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-200-209.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1160090233 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It be you! < 1160090251 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is proud of his *31* character solution, and hates wc with a passion < 1160090255 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Any math involved? To you find the bit values for each character and then find multiples and common trends to work off of? < 1160090286 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we just need a program that can produce the alphabet with less characters than the alphabet itself. < 1160090289 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: What? For the lower-case alphabet bit? < 1160090292 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proving BFs efficiency :D < 1160090295 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Yeah < 1160090327 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with wc? < 1160090345 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, not too good on punctuation maybe? < 1160090364 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1160090402 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ,. < 1160090406 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: In C: < 1160090407 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1160090407 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Did I have to teach you how to count? :P < 1160090410 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 CakeProphet: bf < 1160090411 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 CakeProphet: ps < 1160090425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :char alphabet=97; < 1160090429 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!i 2 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz < 1160090430 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a CakeProphet! < 1160090431 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :char count=52; < 1160090432 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1160090443 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... < 1160090448 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is done by everything before the first loop). < 1160090455 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(count) { < 1160090458 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: a C program to output the letters "a" through "z"? < 1160090460 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :count-=2; < 1160090473 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :putchar(alphabet); < 1160090478 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alphabet++; < 1160090478 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1160090481 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ,.>.>.>.>.>. < 1160090484 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!i 2 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz < 1160090485 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1160090488 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Psuedocode, to demonstrate to CakePropeht the logic. < 1160090497 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: ,[,.] < 1160090502 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'main = putStrLn ['a'..'z']' is much better :-P < 1160090518 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: But it's not the same logic as in my code. < 1160090530 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1160090539 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks the cat program is the best way to produce the alphabet :D < 1160090543 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!daemon cat bf +[,.[-]+] < 1160090547 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cat Foo < 1160090549 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: No input was allowed < 1160090549 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foo < 1160090562 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if your Haskell compiler is weird, it'll do that. < 1160090580 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I would have listed out all the bit values for the characters... and found common trends to work with. < 1160090583 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever use of modulo arithmetic, i think i'll say so far < 1160090594 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: And that was my common trend. . . < 1160090607 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit value for each character is one plus the previous character. ;) < 1160090624 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh < 1160090647 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1160090654 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Why the -- at the beginning? < 1160090683 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Sets array[0] to 254. . . < 1160090687 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION updated the page: http://paparent.nologic.org/bfgolf/ (miss some solution) < 1160090690 0 :wooby_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1160090696 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Oh... didn't know that. < 1160090767 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . I'm the only one to do something *clever*? < 1160090782 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrapping was allowed. -_-' < 1160090822 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrapping is for pansies ;) < 1160090877 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My previous, 40 char solution. . . < 1160090881 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--[+++++>-<]>-----<+++++[->.+.+.+.+.+<]>. < 1160090910 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. anyone got below 38 without wrapping? < 1160090920 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf [+++>->++<<]>----->[--<.+>] < 1160090925 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the only one below 38. < 1160090948 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Starting the code with a loop prevents the loop from running. < 1160090957 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah... < 1160091056 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1160091108 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, For some reason I keep thinking the >-----<+++++ part could be simplified. < 1160091151 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Yeah. . . It's not part of my final code. < 1160091202 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now i understand the basic's of pikhq's solution: using (mod 256) arithmetic, the first loop initializes the tape to 0 102 52. Clever. The rest is easy. < 1160091334 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it's possible to get below 38 without wrapping. < 1160091347 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BTW, congrats pikhq) < 1160091358 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1160091436 0 :paparent!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why i can't understand the logic behind pikhq's code :S < 1160091515 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: did you use any computer search to get the offsets for the first loop? < 1160091550 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Nope. < 1160091584 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Played around with the loop given on [[Brainfuck_constants]] for wrapping 97 for a bit, until I got 52 from it, as well. < 1160091589 0 :|wez|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1160092045 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1160092408 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds out what happens if you write sentances by committee: "Voracious vexillologists believe that the Camelidophobic Esperanto International Association,which is obviously somewhat clever, but technically not very ethical or even subject to the Olympic games of all major holomorphic non-Euclidian institutions of value that are familiar to obsessive ZBBers and recalcitrant anthropomorphic grasshoppers, is concomitantly elucidated, although techni < 1160092499 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be true because it said "holomorphic". < 1160092562 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay for truncation. < 1160092575 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...is concomitantly elucidated, although techni" < 1160092737 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although < 1160092737 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : technically not zompist-approved, nor llamatically endorsed within notably ostentatious sub-committees by < 1160092763 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : supercentenarian arthropods, and ostensibly cannot rightly nor explicably discombobulate ..." etc, etcalthough < 1160092766 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : technically not zompist-approved, nor llamatically endorsed within notably ostentatious sub-committees by < 1160092769 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : supercentenarian arthropods, and ostensibly cannot rightly nor explicably discombobulate ..." etc, etcalthough < 1160092772 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : technically not zompist-approved, nor llamatically endorsed within notably ostentatious sub-committees by < 1160092775 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : supercentenarian arthropods, and ostensibly cannot rightly nor explicably discombobulate ..." etc, etc although < 1160092778 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : technically not zompist-approved, nor llamatically endorsed within notably ostentatious sub-committees by < 1160092781 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : supercentenarian arthropods, and ostensibly cannot rightly nor explicably discombobulate ..." etc, etc although < 1160092784 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : technically not zompist-approved, nor llamatically endorsed within notably ostentatious sub-committees by < 1160092787 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : supercentenarian arthropods, and ostensibly cannot rightly nor explicably discombobulate ..." etc, etc although < 1160092789 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o lament < 1160092790 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : technically not zompist-approved, nor llamatically endorsed within notably ostentatious sub-committees by