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05:37:18 <dbc> How about the time efficiency?
05:46:00 <dbc> In raw brainfuck, it can be trimmed to 28 commands, maybe fewer; I haven't done a real search. It takes time proportional to the divisor.
05:46:07 <dbc> No, I mean the dividend. Sorry.
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13:36:30 <pikhq> dbc: But, since it can only be used with a specific memory layout, not going with BFM (although you could use it in BFM code). . .
15:22:53 <SimonRC> lol:  http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/mundane-name
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16:43:02 <GregorR> !ps
16:43:05 <EgoBot> 3 oerjan: bf8
16:43:07 <EgoBot> 4 GregorR: ps
16:43:08 <GregorR> !kill 3
16:43:09 <EgoBot> Process 3 killed.
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17:24:56 <pikhq> !cat Stop killing me!!!
17:24:59 <EgoBot> Stop killing me!!!
17:28:02 <lindi-> cat?
17:28:56 <pikhq> Yeah.
17:29:04 <pikhq> +[,.]
17:29:44 <lindi-> pikhq: why not "echo"?
17:30:01 <pikhq> lindi-: That's the name of the daemon. . .
17:30:30 <SimonRC> !psd
17:30:33 <EgoBot> Huh?
17:30:37 <SimonRC> !ps -d
17:30:38 <pikhq> !ps d
17:30:39 <EgoBot> 1 EgoBot: daemon EgoBot reload
17:30:41 <EgoBot> 2 GregorR-L: daemon cat bf
17:30:43 <EgoBot> 3 SimonRC: ps
17:30:45 <EgoBot> 1 EgoBot: daemon EgoBot reload
17:30:47 <EgoBot> 2 GregorR-L: daemon cat bf
17:30:49 <EgoBot> 3 SimonRC: ps
17:30:50 <pikhq> Hahah.
17:30:51 <EgoBot> 4 pikhq: ps
17:30:56 <lindi-> pikhq: but why is it named cat?
17:31:06 <pikhq> lindi-: Because Gregor named it cat.
17:31:15 <lindi-> GregorR: why did you name it cat?
17:31:50 <SimonRC> lindi-: After the computer program cat, of course
17:32:21 <lindi-> $ cat Stop killing me
17:32:21 <lindi-> cat: Stop: No such file or directory
17:32:21 <lindi-> cat: killing: No such file or directory
17:32:22 <lindi-> cat: me: No such file or directory
17:32:28 <lindi-> SimonRC: but it doesn't work like that :(
17:32:34 <lindi-> "echo Stop killing me" would be logical
17:32:36 <SimonRC> indeed
17:32:40 <SimonRC> yes
17:34:40 <pikhq> lindi-: It's not `cat Stop killing me`, it's:
17:34:42 <pikhq> $ cat
17:34:46 <pikhq> Stop killing me
17:34:49 <pikhq> Stop killing me
17:34:52 <pikhq> ^D
17:34:53 <pikhq> $
17:35:57 <lindi-> pikhq: by why then "ps -d" is not "ps" and then type "-d" ?
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17:37:42 <pikhq> lindi-: With daemons, you're doing !daemon-name input-to-daemon. With !ps, you're starting a process with arguments.
17:38:16 <pikhq> !EgoBot keeps daemons running until the daemon is killed.
17:38:20 <EgoBot> keeps daemons running until the daemon is killed.<CTCP>
17:38:22 <pikhq> !EgoBot keeps daemons running until the daemon is killed.
17:38:25 * EgoBot keeps daemons running until the daemon is killed.
17:39:02 <lindi-> how illogical
17:39:47 <oerjan> !EgoBot keeps forgetting the order of output when e is restarted
17:39:50 * EgoBot keeps forgetting the order of output when e is restarted
17:39:56 <pikhq> It's a daemon. -_-'
17:40:38 <lindi-> daemon() will redirect standard input, standard output and standard error to /dev/null.
17:41:07 <lindi-> pikhq: very illogical use of the word "daemon" too since a daemon by definition does not do any input or output with stdin or stdout
17:41:33 <lindi-> quote was from "man daemon"
17:41:34 <oerjan> !Egobot keeps thinking it is lindi- who is illogical
17:41:38 <EgoBot> Huh?
17:41:51 <pikhq> lindi-: It's not Unix, it merely takes a few hints from Unix.
17:41:56 <oerjan> !EgoBot keeps thinking it is lindi- who is illogical
17:42:00 * EgoBot keeps thinking it is lindi- who is illogical
17:42:17 <lindi-> pikhq: you should invent new terminology ;)
17:43:00 <pikhq> lindi-: Not my bot.
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19:31:17 * pikhq has done some updating on BFMC. . .
19:31:24 <pikhq> It now matches the modern language. ;0
19:31:49 <pikhq> ^;)
19:40:18 <RodgerTheGreat> rather frightening
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21:38:26 <oerjan> *.rip
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23:02:41 <pikhq> RodgerTheGreat: Anything I write is frightening these days.
23:04:59 <RodgerTheGreat> hm
23:05:10 <oerjan> AAAAAAH! DON'T SAY THAT!
23:08:10 <RodgerTheGreat> the "h" word?
23:08:46 <oerjan> nononono. what pikqh wrote. all of it, in fact.
23:09:24 <lament> that is... disconcerting
23:10:02 <lament> no, maybe not disconcerting... "unsettling"?
23:10:10 <NPOV> heelo
23:10:21 <lament> no, a better word would be "frightening". It's simply... frightening.
23:10:43 <oerjan> NPOV: I find that a biased statement. and misspelled, too.
23:10:53 <pikhq> I
23:11:03 <NPOV> :-(
23:11:07 <oerjan> NO! HE DID IT AGAIN!
23:11:23 <NPOV> Heh, i am not neutral :>
23:11:46 * oerjan hopes everyone realizes that anything he writes is silly these days.
23:12:02 <lament> this oerjan guy, all he does is be silly
23:12:06 <lament> lets just ban him
23:12:14 <lament> no wait
23:12:21 <oerjan> now _that's_ frightening.
23:12:22 <lament> let's tar and feather him
23:12:34 <oerjan> not gzip?
23:12:41 <pikhq> RUN!
23:12:41 <lament> and put him in a cage in a public square
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