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05:00:26 <Razor-X> Who wrote bf_txtgen?
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05:13:07 <GregorR-L> Razor-X: calamari IIRC.   And it's textgen.java IIRC.
05:13:19 <Razor-X> GregorR-L: Aha.
05:25:03 <RodgerTheGreat> yeah, it's coded in Java.
05:25:20 <RodgerTheGreat> I could take a crack at adding a post-optimizer for it.
05:26:13 <RodgerTheGreat> I made a simple one for a BF IDE I built for myself a while ago.
05:28:01 <calamari> hi
05:28:48 <Razor-X> I'm trying to get my Palm to send arbitrary data now.
05:28:56 <Razor-X> Hey, maybe I can even get the stupid thing to dump its ROM.
05:29:35 <Razor-X> Since it refuses to with other conventional utilities.
05:31:23 <RodgerTheGreat> what are you using to send things over the serial port?
05:31:37 <Razor-X> Good 'ol PalmOS functions.
05:31:51 <Razor-X> I've got Quartus Forth and LispMe on it.
05:32:18 <RodgerTheGreat> if you aren't afraid to touch some BASIC, I have a really easy way that you could do a ROM dump, assuming you have a serial hotsync cradle.
05:32:32 <Razor-X> See, that's the problem. It's not serial.
05:32:36 <RodgerTheGreat> damn
05:32:45 <RodgerTheGreat> that makes everything harder. :/
05:32:57 <Razor-X> What BASIC are you using, by the way?
05:33:35 <Razor-X> What I'm trying to get it do is to initially mimic the hotsync transfer (I have some hotsync request dumps), and after the kernel grabs onto the device, I'll begin sending arbitrary data.
05:33:41 <RodgerTheGreat> I was going to recommend Cbaspad- it's pretty old, but it supports PEEK, POKE, and CALL, and you can perform serial communications.
05:33:44 <RodgerTheGreat> want a link?
05:33:57 <Razor-X> Yah.
05:34:02 <RodgerTheGreat> one sec...
05:34:06 <Razor-X> Mmkay.
05:34:38 <RodgerTheGreat> http://www.hotpaw.com/rhn/files/cbaspad0974.zip
05:34:45 <RodgerTheGreat> and the manual: http://www.hotpaw.com/rhn/files/CBASPAD.TXT
05:35:22 <RodgerTheGreat> if you decide to do anything with cbaspad, I'd be glad- I'm a wizard with it. :D
05:35:27 <Razor-X> Where does the ROM live, by the way?
05:36:22 <RodgerTheGreat> hm. the only part of the palmOS memory map that I can remember is that the top 32k of ram are protected from writes without a system call...
05:38:17 <RodgerTheGreat> hm. a google search reveals this: http://assets.devx.com/articlefigs/6719.gif
05:38:34 <RodgerTheGreat> I'll see if I can find some numbers for the visor
05:47:29 <RodgerTheGreat> doesn't exactly have what we need, but this looks like some really useful info if you're looking at writing an OS: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~davidwilliams/ddl_home.htm
05:48:29 <Razor-X> Right now I'm just gonna fiddle with an httpd or a tftpd.
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05:48:35 <Razor-X> Maybe even just an IRC client.
05:49:37 <RodgerTheGreat> well, good night- I need to get some sleep.
05:55:44 <GregorR-L> RawIRC is the only IRC client you'll ever need.
06:12:47 <Arrogant> What about telnet?
06:13:49 <Razor-X> Hmmm. Somewhere my code is causing a fatal exception.
06:14:02 <calamari> Arrogant: go ahead :)
06:14:11 <Razor-X> Weird. I just compile in words, I haven't done anything special.
06:14:39 <calamari> xchat is less painful :)
06:15:05 <GregorR> Arrogant: Can't idle AFK with telnet :)
06:15:25 <Arrogant> Pay a homeless man to respond to pings
06:15:58 <Razor-X> Ah. Found the problem.
06:16:15 <calamari> fluxbox runs fine on this p166
06:17:08 <calamari> wish there was a browser faster than mozilla but that still rendered pages decently.. links is fast, but it really leaves a lot to be desired
06:27:24 <Razor-X> Well, that's what I get for writing to address 3.
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16:05:55 <nooga> hei oerjan
16:06:04 <oerjan> hei nooga
16:09:10 <oerjan> og hadet
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16:09:19 <nooga> mmm
16:09:24 <nooga> hadet ;p
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16:13:48 <nooga> hey you
16:15:36 <GregorR-L> Fine, fine.
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16:15:57 <nooga> ;]
16:26:09 <Asztal> Everything is red!
16:26:32 * Asztal needs to buy a monitor which displays red
16:27:29 <RodgerTheGreat> like a retro-style terminal or something?
16:27:38 <RodgerTheGreat> I'd go with green or amber myself.
16:27:48 <RodgerTheGreat> mmm... amber-on-black displays...
16:28:02 <nooga> amber?
16:28:23 <RodgerTheGreat> amber. Kindof between orange and yellow.
16:28:44 <RodgerTheGreat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_%28color%29
16:28:49 <nooga> i'd like green with that cool phosphoric sustain
16:30:55 <RodgerTheGreat> according to this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VT220), VT220 terminals came in white, green, and amber. I could've sworn red was a standard color as well.
16:32:43 <nooga> ha
16:34:58 <GregorR-L> Nah, it turned red after you used a white one to kill some--- I mean, I've never heard of that.
16:35:18 <nooga> ;>
16:35:35 <RodgerTheGreat> lol
16:35:36 <nooga> oh
16:35:52 <nooga> i've spotted a guy from Poland @ our wiki :>
16:35:59 <GregorR-L> KILL 'IM
16:36:09 <GregorR-L> eg: OK?  And? :P
16:36:18 <nooga> nothing ;p
16:36:30 <GregorR-L> Oooooooooh, aaaaaaaaaah, Poland.
16:37:18 <nooga> i meant: a guy who made an esolang and lives relatively near to me ;p
16:38:09 <Asztal> I was thinking more like http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Productinfo.aspx?ProductID=14836
16:40:45 <nooga> i will make a display for my PC from old b&w TV ;p
16:40:59 <RodgerTheGreat> I've seen some tutorials on doing that
16:41:38 <nooga> i've tried to emulate old tv signal like it's made in those neat Xscreensavers
16:41:47 <RodgerTheGreat> you can create a 3-monitor setup by using R,G, and B channels to each represent a grayscale image.
16:42:04 <nooga> cool :>
16:42:10 <RodgerTheGreat> which is a really sweet idea, when you think about it
16:42:32 <nooga> indeed
16:42:45 <xor> doododododod
16:42:48 <RodgerTheGreat> I think I saw a link to how to do it on http://www.hackaday.com/ a while back- pore over the archives and see what you can find.
16:44:10 <nooga> heh
16:44:12 <nooga> g2g
16:44:14 <nooga> bye
16:44:15 <RodgerTheGreat> cya
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17:31:32 <SimonRC> ah, the wonders of my university's email system:    http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.r.clarkstone/bouncy.eml
17:32:03 <SimonRC> (I sent a message to two people without bothering to put the default domain part on their addresses.)
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23:21:34 * SimonRC prepends '** ' to the beginning of his $PS1, and it is much easier to spot now.
23:21:44 <SimonRC> "it" == the prompt
23:50:44 <xor> oh boy