00:03:26 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:08:50 afk food 00:10:46 -!- GregorR-L has quit ("kill(getpid(), SIGTURKEY)"). 00:28:41 erm, gonna have to do some study 00:39:57 hm. well, this is interesting. my pet betta is in the process of building a "bubble nest", presumably in preparation for nesting season. 00:41:30 * oerjan had to check wikipedia, and is somehow releaved that it is a fish and not a spider or something... 00:41:40 haha 00:41:54 perhaps I should've said "siamese fighting fish" 00:46:11 they act a little like a combination of a shark and a goldfish. 00:46:56 should or should one not dip one's finger into the water? 00:47:40 they don't really have teeth, so I don't see any serious harm, although they might try to ram you or decide to suck on your finger. 00:48:23 bettas are not very large fish to begin with. 00:49:12 except in attitude? :) 00:49:27 heh- yes. 01:02:58 Like I said, I think a TeX preprocessor is best. 01:10:07 * RodgerTheGreat scratches his head and flips through the logs 01:12:25 i _think_ it was in response to the last thing i said before logging off but i am not sure 01:13:20 Yup, it is. 01:14:14 it seems the problem is to somehow get a file input as a mere list of characters... 01:14:55 Will LaTeX3E ever finish? 01:14:59 the \read macro nearly does that, i think. 01:15:26 but not quite. 01:15:48 i haven't paid attention to that project. 01:17:35 meh, haven't studied yet, afk, mowing lawns 01:17:59 so, there's work afoot to create a BF interpreter in LaTeX? 01:18:49 apparently. 01:19:37 And for me, a LaTeX preprocessor in Scheme. 01:20:54 cool. 01:21:26 Because I'm tired of M-x calc when doing my labs. 01:21:58 If I'm typing up the expression to show work anyways, might as well have something do some arithmetic and other handy things. 01:37:27 is anyone here intimately familiar with 68k machinecode? 01:39:12 -!- ivan` has joined. 02:05:58 -!- sp3tt has joined. 02:07:56 back 02:13:12 erm, i'm familiar with Z80 machine code 02:13:20 can't help you with that one, sorry. 02:13:37 LD HL,Beer 02:13:52 LD A,HL 02:13:56 LD (Mouth),A 02:14:46 heh 02:14:55 you'll enjoy this: 02:14:56 LOGO death virus tutorial: http://www.rohitab.com/discuss/index.php?showtopic=20088 02:15:52 haha 02:16:58 "'m sick of all the lame tutorials describing how you can use a virus to destroy your school computers using just batch commands. They suck, as they don't destroy anything. My virus simply pwnz all of yourz coz it is the best. It actually kills your teacher and all the students in the class. It not only kills them... it's so much better than that.... it actually burns them alive." 02:19:58 good find 02:20:13 meh, it's on a forum I go to 02:20:55 "and its not a virus...it doesnt spread" "Then the pen needs to become a turtles willy so it can improegnate dogs and cats and other turtles. 02:20:55 And instead of dropping petrol it will have to drop chloroform. 02:20:55 Or have a flamming willy." 02:21:36 well, I guess I'm going to have to pore over some manuals to get a handle on creating machinecode for the 'ol dragonball EZ... 02:23:17 or some LOGO code for the ol' "DON'T USE PEN DOWN!" turtle 03:42:27 -!- wooby has joined. 03:51:33 -!- GregorR-L has joined. 04:50:39 -!- Razor-X has left (?). 04:50:46 -!- Razor-X has joined. 05:18:03 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 05:19:14 -!- Sgeo has quit (Remote closed the connection). 05:20:59 -!- Sgeo has joined. 05:33:21 -!- wooby has quit. 05:34:50 Emacs has IRC? NICE! :D 05:35:04 yep 05:35:59 what's irssi like? is that irc][? 05:36:12 never heard of irc][ 05:36:18 but irssi is decent 05:36:32 is irssi that console one? 05:36:43 what's wrong with xchat? 05:36:50 nothing 05:36:56 yeah, irssi is console 05:38:23 irssi is nice :) 05:39:04 off novice mode, i arseume? 05:49:44 RawIRC is the best. 06:09:25 a C -> JVM compiler would be interesting 06:11:51 xor.google("mips2java"); 06:12:23 afk food 06:17:44 mips2java looks ugly 06:18:00 why would you do binary to java source code translation? 06:19:01 http://www.axiomsol.com/ 06:29:30 GregorR-L: That adds yet another emulation layer to java 06:33:52 -!- Sgeo has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:51:19 -!- tokigun_ has joined. 06:51:35 -!- tokigun has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:17:08 back 07:28:01 -!- CXI has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:28:53 -!- CXI has joined. 07:41:49 -!- anonfunc has quit. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:02:23 -!- ptmcg has joined. 08:28:07 gonna wash up and then sleep, gnight 08:30:40 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. contact, minus spaces: the mat rix eat syo u (eht) yah oo (duht) co (duht) nz"). 08:33:40 -!- ptmcg has left (?). 08:36:34 -!- ptmcg has joined. 08:38:58 -!- GregorR-L has quit ("Leaving"). 09:01:07 -!- ptmcg has left (?). 10:07:53 -!- jix has joined. 11:50:52 -!- ivan` has quit (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different"). 12:49:34 -!- saik0 has joined. 13:02:15 i need some directive plz 14:11:55 -!- jix_ has joined. 14:29:21 -!- jix has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 15:03:00 -!- CXI has left (?). 15:09:27 -!- CakeProphet has quit ("haaaaaaaaaa"). 15:09:28 -!- saik0 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 15:32:48 -!- Sgeo has joined. 17:08:02 -!- ihope_ has joined. 17:08:08 What's UDP provide, again? 17:08:26 ? 17:09:18 ihope_: unreliable connectionless protocol for your custom needs :) 17:09:35 Just like IP, except on top of IP? 17:10:48 ihope_: udp provides ports 17:11:10 That's nice. 17:11:17 ihope_: and checksums 17:11:32 So it does do something, at least? 17:11:38 How much overhead is there? 17:11:45 Much less than TCP. 17:12:03 The packets are not guaranteed to reach, and if they reach they are not guaranteed to arrive in a particular order. 17:12:19 ihope_: 8 bytes if i count correctly :) 17:12:24 weren't quake or so using udp for position updates and tcp for things like shooting which shouldn't be missed? 17:12:31 8 bytes total? 17:12:39 per packet 17:12:52 How big's a packet? 17:12:57 If you're on a reliable local network, you should be able to use UDP with little/no trouble. 17:12:58 ihope_: variable length 17:13:03 ihope_: you can decide 17:13:12 How big do they get? 17:13:16 Over the internet.... it depends completely upon how your packet is routed. 17:13:16 65535 is maximum i think 17:13:26 since the counter is two bytes 17:13:27 ihope_: Take a look at the UDP RFC. 17:14:10 I still haven't finished SLUMTP. I think I'm going to implement it in a different language. 17:14:16 Maybe Ruby. 17:14:21 Or, yes, Java. 17:15:42 if you need any help with Java, just let me know 17:16:03 Actually, it probably will be Java. 17:16:11 Is there a significant difference between IO in Java 5 and earlier versions? 17:16:21 Only because that means I have to download a newer version of Java :P 17:17:09 file I/O? 17:17:33 That and also Packet I/O. 17:17:34 File I/O is *significantly* improved in Java 5 17:17:53 Ah. 17:18:29 I'm not extremely experienced with network communications in Java, but I'm familiar with all of Java's file I/O facilities. 17:18:44 the "Scanner" class is your friend. 17:19:45 I was looking at the UDP abstraction. I like it. 17:20:00 Easy to follow (for me), unlike other abstractions. 17:20:47 In Java, if you can read a Javadoc, you can pretty easily learn how to use any part of the API 17:21:05 So I've seen. 17:21:30 I appreciate Java's likeness to C, even if that is a bit selfish. 17:21:32 creating proper Javadoc comments can be a pain at times, but it's really worth it in the long run. 17:26:18 if you're interested in the differences between 1.4.2 and 1.5, this page is a fairly complete listing: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/relnotes/features.html 17:33:04 the addition of for...each loops is pretty nice. 17:38:52 Yeah. That is one I noticed. 17:41:32 Me Java is being updated. 17:46:38 Razor-X: please avoid java 1.5 features if you want people to be able to use your program with free software 17:51:45 Ah. Alrighto then. 17:51:49 That I shall. 17:52:46 Razor-X: fortunately those will be available soon 17:52:54 or at least hopefully 17:53:07 How's the movement to OSS Java going? 17:54:18 a JVM and Javac itself are open-source 18:17:28 -!- tgwizard has joined. 18:30:52 RodgerTheGreat: there are four free java compilers and at least 10+ jvms 18:31:04 -!- Sgeo has quit (Remote closed the connection). 18:31:17 I'm talking about what Sun released. 18:31:38 yes it's one of those four 18:39:18 -!- Sgeo has joined. 18:43:41 -!- calamari has joined. 18:46:48 -!- puzzlet_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 18:52:40 bbl people- I'm off to prepare my thanksgiving f00dz0rz. 18:54:26 cya RodgerTheGreat 18:54:32 Happy Thanksgiving 18:55:03 we had ours on Tuesday, so I'm pretty much just being lazy today 18:56:00 Just rescheduled Thanksgiving, eh :P 18:56:28 On the one hand, that's brilliant. On the other hand, how dare you insult our meaningless holiday? 18:57:14 well, I could have says happy turkey day 18:57:41 oh, my stepmother wants Linux for Christmas 18:58:09 so now that'll be both my dad and stepmom.. the Linux infection is spreading :) 18:58:23 and my grandma if he ever brings her computer down 18:58:27 she 18:58:51 wow.. 20gb just in my home directory 18:59:02 I need to clean some crap out 19:01:40 I just backed up my home directory quite recently. 19:01:46 37 DVDs 19:01:48 4.4gigs each 19:01:51 You do the math :-P 19:02:11 you have too much porn 19:02:52 let me guess.. half porn, half pirated music? 19:03:28 ...and half pirated movies 19:03:32 * calamari is proud to report 0% porn %0 pirated on his hd 19:04:26 I do need to go through some old floppies and clean off any pirated dos apps.. not that anyone cares anymore 19:05:26 but I guess decss is illegal here in the us :( 19:05:26 i have about 80% pirated 5% porn 19:05:43 actually probably less since my photographs take up lots of space nowadays 19:05:59 Linux eliminates most of the need for pirated apps 19:06:29 by not being able to run them, yes. 19:06:31 hmmm 50% porn and 45% pirated 19:06:34 But I do want Photoshop 19:06:46 so i pirated that 19:07:03 the gimp does everything I need it to 19:07:13 I hate the gimp 19:07:21 why? 19:07:42 I dunno I just can't use it 19:07:48 too many windows? 19:08:02 I didn't like that .. but figured out how to consolidate them all into one 19:08:14 so now it's fine 19:08:21 the gimp doesn't do everything i need it to 19:08:33 or maybe it does, i never bothered to figure it out 19:08:36 it's extremely slow 19:08:42 which is my main problem with it 19:08:43 meh, maybe I'm just not a photo editing kinda guy 19:08:53 and, of course, it doesn't have NeatImage (which i had to pirate separately...) 19:09:02 xor: maybe you just aren't 19:09:02 does photoshop run under wine? 19:09:05 calamari: no clue 19:09:08 i use os x 19:09:16 calamari: with some hackery 19:09:38 photoshop is almost indispensable for photo editing 19:10:00 I used to like paint shop pro, but then they screwed it all up 19:10:40 I bought it anyways because I was way past my 30 day trial period on version 4 19:11:02 it would be nice to have a simple free editor that would do the things i usually use photoshop for 19:11:55 but then still there would be occasions when that's not enough 19:12:27 * calamari dials up the SPA 19:13:25 hmm, apparetly I have the wrong set of initials there 19:13:48 http://gallery.z3.ca/d/13143-1/poles.jpg 19:14:20 dunno if i'd be bothered to do that in gimp 19:14:36 do you have a color version of that? 19:15:11 not online 19:15:34 what was done to it? 19:16:43 -!- ihope_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:16:48 burn the wooden poles, levels, convert to black and white using mostly the red channel, some more levels, unsharp mask 19:17:25 er, actually probably the blue channel 19:17:36 gimp can do channels 19:18:22 has all sorts of crazy channel splitting and joining stuff actually 19:29:44 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 19:30:51 -!- nooga has joined. 19:30:57 hiiihooo 19:31:06 hello 1.1 19:31:47 hellor2.0beta 19:35:02 hi3.14159 19:35:55 ?:2^:?| 19:36:55 above program takes a and h from input and writes a/2*h to the output... it's in my new lang 19:37:32 your language looks quite a lot like befunge. 19:37:44 ah ah ah 19:37:54 not 2d and not stack based :> 19:38:28 it's a wip yet 19:46:01 what's in the lang so far? 19:48:19 ((()()())(()()())(()()())) :D 19:49:19 a=getch();h=getch();putch(a>>1*h); // That'll be me for now 19:49:49 a!2=getch();h!2=getch();putch(a>>1*h); /* Better */ 19:49:58 the top one is in C 19:50:05 the bottom one is in tomato 19:50:10 actually, for C: 19:50:24 char a,h;a=getch();h=getch();putch(a>>1*h); // Fixed 19:50:28 and for tomato: 19:50:44 a!1=getch();h!1=getch();putch(a>>1*h); /* Fixed */ 19:50:59 wait, there's no getnum :O 19:52:08 why 32-bit P-mode ASM is so much better than 16-bit R-mode ASM: MOV eax,[edx]; MOV ecx,[eax]; 19:52:23 you can access memory with ANY register =D 19:53:03 GreaseMonkey: eflags too? ;) 19:53:04 ;] 19:53:28 don't really know a lot about eflags :/ 19:54:13 with my design for a RISC architecture (which supports 64 instructions but only has 20 so far :D) you can read and write the flags register *directly* 19:55:09 however, in Z80 ASM: PUSH hl; PUSH af; POP hl; LD l,00h; PUSH hl; POP af; POP hl; 19:55:15 i think that's it 19:55:25 anyways, gotta go to my exam, cya :( 19:55:43 got 2 today D: 19:56:13 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit (Client Quit). 20:00:36 -!- oerjan has joined. 20:01:02 hei 20:01:10 hallo 20:03:33 hvordan star det til? 20:04:08 det rusler og går 20:05:13 hm... i dunno what rusler means :D 20:06:03 walks slowly and aimlessly 20:06:22 aah 20:06:46 the whole phrase means just about "nothing much" 20:07:19 i c 20:11:42 bbl 20:31:50 -!- nooha has joined. 20:32:20 -!- nooga has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:32:50 -!- nooha has changed nick to nooga. 20:41:00 -!- GregorR has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:59:25 -!- EgoBot has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 21:39:54 back 21:40:08 am I 21:40:51 backwards mean you 21:40:59 gf 21:41:23 polish notation reverse use I 21:41:26 -!- jix_ has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 21:41:50 right is that 21:42:11 impossible, nooga here polish the is 21:42:54 my host is a perl program :D 21:42:58 ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl 21:43:02 *.pl 21:43:55 g2g ;/ 21:43:58 you're lucky, my host is NO program. :( 21:44:01 c u all 21:44:08 ghhehe ;] 21:44:21 -!- nooga has quit. 21:52:34 you guys are both lucky, i'm .NET :| 21:57:00 Apparently my host still uses DOS 21:57:37 Bleh, it isn't showing my hostname. But it's a .com. 21:57:51 it is showing your hostname. 21:58:14 oh. when I hover my mouse over the text it shows my IP instead :) 21:58:25 it lies. 21:58:44 and now that I've whoised myself, when I hover, it shows my hostname.. :D 21:59:22 -!- Asztal has quit ("!!!"). 22:13:57 -!- tgwizard has quit ("Leaving"). 22:35:04 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 23:15:24 -!- Asztal has joined.