00:02:31 <pikhq> >--<+-.>
00:02:37 <pikhq> Err. . .
00:02:42 <pikhq> ><+-.>
00:02:44 <pikhq> It's a fish!
00:03:14 <oerjan> Maybe it can be part of that amphibious language
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00:03:26 <pikhq> I don't think it's valid Homespring. . .
00:03:30 <pikhq> Valid Brainfuck, though.
00:04:41 <oerjan> Now there is a task - make a program that means the same in Homespring and Brainfuck.
00:05:14 <pikhq> LMAO
00:05:39 <pikhq> Given that one can't even be sure Homespring is Turing complete, that could be tricky. . .
00:06:46 <oklopol> homespring?
00:08:17 <oerjan> Actually I meant that amphibious language oklopol was blathering about ;)
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00:12:30 <oklopol> i thought you might've ment it :)
00:12:45 <oklopol> meant
00:13:00 <oklopol> maybe i'll make an amphibious language
00:13:43 <pikhq> Well, homespring *is* in some way amphibious. . .
00:13:49 <oklopol> in what way?
00:14:06 <pikhq> It involves salmon as the message-passing system. . .
00:15:25 <oklopol> ah
00:15:35 <oklopol> i had a more symbolic meaning for the word :)
00:15:37 <pikhq> Google it.
00:15:48 <oklopol> i'm lookin at a tutorial
00:15:53 <oklopol> *looking
00:16:04 <pikhq> K.
00:16:06 <oklopol> i just didn't see the amphibi..a?
00:16:20 <oklopol> because i had my own idea about it
00:16:32 <oklopol> but then again, maybe you see when i do it
00:16:42 <oerjan> I hope so.  Homespring seems to have a serious shortage of frogs.
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00:17:35 <oklopol> Also, it should be noted that the null program (that is, a completely blank program) is special. When this program is run, the interpreter prints the message 'In Homespring, the null program is not a quine.' and exits.
00:17:42 <oklopol> :D
00:17:58 <oklopol> oerjan, mine wouldn't have any water animals really
00:18:24 <oklopol> just the concept of code being run in multiple ...platforms simultaneously
00:19:03 <oklopol> because now that i've come to think of it, amphibious was imo a nice for for describing programs that run the samu way in many languages
00:19:08 <oklopol> *same
00:19:15 <oklopol> even tho it was a typo then
00:19:20 <oklopol> well, mental typo
00:20:49 <oklopol> that homespring... what the fuck 8|
00:22:02 <oerjan> Eye-popping?
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00:25:53 <oklopol> i didn't understand anything really
00:26:26 <pikhq> It's crazy.
00:26:29 <oklopol> the tree-parsing was not explained at all
00:26:40 <oklopol> and it'd take time for me to decrypt it
00:26:45 <oklopol> from the examples
00:26:57 <oklopol> but a massive set of gizmos :D
00:27:03 <oerjan> You can take a look at Good Math/Bad Math
00:27:13 <pikhq> It's described in there?
00:27:23 <oerjan> That blog had an article on it recently
00:27:42 <pikhq> Kewl.
00:27:50 <oklopol> Good Math/Bad Math?
00:28:28 <oerjan> http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/goodmath/programming/pathological_programming/
00:30:36 <CakeProphet> wow... Google might be making an OS?
00:30:41 <CakeProphet> that would be sweet...
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04:20:37 <bsmntbombdood> foo
04:21:17 * CakeProphet is hacking linux to get his wireless to work .
04:21:23 <CakeProphet> damn Belkin.
04:21:30 <CakeProphet> and their Windows-centric adapter drivers
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05:00:39 <GregorR> http://www.codu.org/win1.avi
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06:48:17 <CakeProphet> hmm..
06:48:27 <CakeProphet> kernels are way too big..
07:00:28 <CakeProphet> WE NEED A KERNEL
07:00:32 <CakeProphet> SMALLER THAN A PICOKERNEL
07:00:40 <CakeProphet> ...but I can't remember the prefix
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13:05:39 <oklopol> FEMTO
13:06:53 <fizzie> Then atto, zepto and yocto. The last two always make me smile.
13:08:23 <oklopol> yeah
13:08:40 <oklopol> memorized those some years ago
13:08:41 <fizzie> "Our system has a yoctokernel architecture."
13:08:46 <oklopol> :D
13:18:52 <oerjan> Those last ones sound like the names of Marx brothers
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21:13:57 <CakeProphet> hrm...
21:14:10 <CakeProphet> I still can't get my network adapter to run in linux.
21:14:16 <CakeProphet> even with ndiswrapper
21:14:26 <SimonRC> :-(
21:18:11 <ihope> What is ndiswrapper, exactly?
21:18:21 <ihope> A Windows driver loader thingy?
21:19:03 <CakeProphet> it's a interface for working with windows-centric drivers.
21:19:17 <CakeProphet> my network adapter sucks and was only made to work with Windows.
21:22:15 * CakeProphet is going to try something new.
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22:17:40 <GreaseMonkey> ;> #"87*3+,'>,' ,'#,ff+4+,>:#,_ff+4+,87*3+,'#,'0,'<,@";#0<
22:18:01 <GreaseMonkey> (quine in befunge-98)
22:18:26 <oklopol> 1d?
22:19:03 <GreaseMonkey> well, unefunge-98, but can be run in befunge-98 or trefunge-98
22:19:44 <oklopol> coools
22:19:47 <oklopol> you made it?
22:19:52 <GreaseMonkey> yep
22:19:55 <oklopol> [00:14:23] * GreaseMonkey has joined #esoteric
22:19:55 <oklopol> [00:14:26] <GreaseMonkey> ;> #"87*3+,'>,' ,'#,ff+4+,>:#,_ff+4+,87*3+,'#,'0,'<,@";#0<
22:19:56 <GreaseMonkey> i'm working on a befunge98 interpreter
22:19:58 <oklopol> in 3 secs?
22:20:09 <GreaseMonkey> nah, i copy-pasted from a file
22:20:11 <oklopol> oh
22:20:14 <GreaseMonkey> which i made fyi
22:20:17 <oklopol> that's a dissappoinment
22:21:07 <oklopol> befunge-98 is n-dimensional?
22:31:10 <GreaseMonkey> befunge-98 = 2D
22:31:23 <GreaseMonkey> but can emulate unefunge, which = 1D
22:31:32 <GreaseMonkey> actually
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22:31:49 <CakeProphet> :(
22:32:00 <GreaseMonkey> befunge runs unefunge as-is, unless someone's being a bastard and they set up a trap
22:32:24 * bsmntbombdood got SICP from the library today
22:33:19 * oerjan wonders if oklopol has a bit too high expectations
22:33:21 <GreaseMonkey> like: ;@,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"its unefunge not befunge you git";# ](code goes here)
22:46:54 <ihope> Say, how's SOAP coming along?
22:49:13 * oerjan wonders if SOAP shouldn't be written in Clean...
22:51:10 <ihope> Wonderful...
22:54:14 <CakeProphet> hrm
22:54:59 * CakeProphet could use bits of his half-developed MUD codebase for the user-end/event stuff.
22:58:15 * oklopol feels like /meing
22:58:43 * ihope does too
23:00:40 * oklopol goes to bed now ->
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23:10:14 <GreaseMonkey> oops
23:23:22 <ihope> Do not /nickserv GHOST yourself.
23:25:30 <bsmntbombdood> eh
23:25:32 <bsmntbombdood> heh
23:28:22 <GreaseMonkey> whyzat?
23:28:26 <GreaseMonkey> wait
23:28:38 <GreaseMonkey> no, i got disconnected
23:29:19 <GreaseMonkey> !ctcp #esoteric ACTION is having fun
23:29:38 <GreaseMonkey> bugger
23:30:08 <oerjan> You need \001 characters
23:30:15 <bsmntbombdood> bsmnt_bot: do what you're told
23:30:39 <oerjan> or maybe not.
23:30:50 <bsmntbombdood> ~ctcp #esoteric ACTION FOOF
23:30:51 * bsmnt_bot FOOF
23:34:46 <GreaseMonkey> OH
23:34:55 <GreaseMonkey> ah, i know why you use ~ instead
23:35:00 <bsmntbombdood> egobot
23:35:56 <GreaseMonkey> http://greasemonkey.shadowarts.org/befunge98-r002.zip - a kinda incomplete but still very useable befunge-98 interpreter, comes with examples, what's implemented, what's not, etc.
23:36:01 <GreaseMonkey> oh, and source
23:39:11 <GreaseMonkey> ;> #"87*3+,'>,' ,'#,ff+4+,>:#,_ff+4+,87*3+,'#,'0,'<,@";#0<
23:39:15 <GreaseMonkey> my quine :D
23:40:00 <GreaseMonkey> i believe that daemons should be coded in a funge
23:40:32 <GreaseMonkey> befunge-98 preferably - that's about as expandable as befunge gets
23:41:12 * oerjan recalls a norwegian fantasy book in which daemons were six-dimensional creatures
23:42:02 <GreaseMonkey> 4D is enough for me
23:42:27 <GreaseMonkey> why, have you used hexefunge?
23:43:28 <oerjan> Always use hexefunge for your magical programming!
23:44:33 <GreaseMonkey> man, that'd be frikkin intense
23:44:55 <oerjan> (btw the answer is no)
23:45:20 <GreaseMonkey> i think trefunge is intense enough, and i haven't even tried it
23:47:26 <GreaseMonkey> >;        ;v
23:47:26 <GreaseMonkey> v"## # # "0<
23:47:26 <GreaseMonkey> >:#,_;    ;^
23:48:02 <GreaseMonkey> that puts REALLY weird effects on your screen
23:52:40 <GreaseMonkey> afk food