< 1175821261 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1175822276 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"sumaesuma" < 1175822491 0 :nazgjunk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Away for the weekend, don't expect me back until sunday evening CET, at the very earliest" < 1175827623 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1175829315 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1175829414 0 :Pikhq!n=pikhq@c-75-70-225-157.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175829824 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Yah." < 1175829871 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1175830566 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1175831074 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175832221 0 :Figs!n=Figs@ip64-75-241-206.aloha.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175832244 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.faisal.com/geek/opcodes.txt < 1175833338 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=Greasemo@222-154-170-11.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1175835725 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmnt, what's with your bot? < 1175835733 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1175835742 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't it on? < 1175835745 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1175835751 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's odd < 1175835764 0 :ShadowHntr!i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175835783 0 :bsmnt_bot!n=bsmnt@abacus.kwzs.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1175835796 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONRADULATIONS!!!1 < 1175836297 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm working on an operbot right now < 1175836313 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having two bots on at once is a bit overkill < 1175836437 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you brought your bot in, that'd be three ... < 1175836442 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: Hello my friend. < 1175836449 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two bots on the same pc, that is < 1175836461 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two in a chan is fine < 1175836494 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as long as there are more people than bots (except #botpark ), it's fine < 1175837719 0 :Sukoshi!n=user@user-3cf843l.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1175839943 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'operbot'? < 1175839961 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :operbot = a bot that does op stuff for your chan < 1175839984 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it ban everybody from #esoteric? < 1175840004 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it won't unless you make it do that in the source < 1175840006 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it's ChanServ? < 1175840015 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1175840032 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like `kick agentorange < 1175840040 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and `topic Very cool channel < 1175840048 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't even need to be an op < 1175840048 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like chanserv < 1175840053 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, like chanserv < 1175840068 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1175840119 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can kick people without the +o < 1175840127 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff like that < 1175840309 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chanserv can op people < 1175840316 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as set channel modes and stuff < 1175840332 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: so can chanserv < 1175840349 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it couldn't kick ppls < 1175840360 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it can < 1175840368 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1175840376 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can still op you and then you kick the person yourself. < 1175840386 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kicking is practically useless anyway. < 1175840390 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the point? < 1175840408 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1175840413 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that `kick foo is faster than /cs op greasemonkey then /kick #chan foo < 1175840415 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :access of 8 for voice? O.o < 1175840427 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`kb foo < 1175840428 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sharpens his finger then pokes lament
< 1175840435 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`kb foo barmsg < 1175840463 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`silence foo < 1175840465 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1175840483 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+v all good citizens, +m channel) < 1175840495 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or -q < 1175840500 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-q? < 1175840519 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silence < 1175840521 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still fail to see how is this useful < 1175840532 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes lament again
< 1175840544 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's useful because you flex your coding muscles :P < 1175840545 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to kick people so badly < 1175840546 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just get ops < 1175840562 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you want to be an undercover op that jumps out and kicks people randomly? < 1175840564 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoo! Hydrogen. < 1175840567 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on windows. < 1175840569 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I WANNA KICK PEOPLE! Can I have ops ZOMG 8-D < 1175840587 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe pm kick < 1175840588 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o GregorR < 1175840595 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAYS! < 1175840597 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1175840605 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-D < 1175840610 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1175840612 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reign of terror!!! < 1175840619 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahahaahahahha < 1175840627 0 :bsmnt_bot!n=bsmnt@abacus.kwzs.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1175840632 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.o < 1175840635 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kick evasion!!! < 1175840638 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!! < 1175840664 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+b %bsmnt_bot!*@* < 1175840666 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`kick bsmnt_bot < 1175840674 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1175840679 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talk to me, bsmnt_bot 8-D < 1175840680 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys have access at 30? O.o < 1175840686 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-b %bsmnt_bot!*@* < 1175840689 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that was fun. < 1175840692 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-o GregorR < 1175840712 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh woww < 1175840722 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :taaus hasn't been here for 2 years :( < 1175840743 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2y 8w 3d 14h 45m 41s < 1175840750 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aardappel for a year and a half... :( < 1175840757 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are they? < 1175840766 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as of 4/5/07 19:22:13 GMT-10 < 1175840769 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aardappel is a genius, taaus is just cool < 1175840788 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the log! < 1175840903 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wot! < 1175840907 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to log in? :( < 1175840931 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no bmn access! < 1175840933 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo. < 1175841410 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose a non-esoteric project. < 1175841418 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1175841420 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits for the gasps.
< 1175841423 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a non-esoteric language. < 1175841439 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm already working on it :D < 1175841450 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://student.hpa.edu:16080/weblog/cmcfarland/ProgrammingDesign/ < 1175841458 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cross-platform PDF viewer. < 1175841466 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... < 1175841469 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not working on it :P < 1175841478 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely cross-platform. Maybe a little bit of bootstrap code per platform, but hopefully not. < 1175841495 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language of design: ObjC, OCaML, or Java -- in order of speed. < 1175841515 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wot? No C++? :( < 1175841524 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1175841534 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, yeah, yeah... :P < 1175841539 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I said no esoteric languages :P < 1175841544 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1175841555 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should see some of the weirder stuff I write in C++... < 1175841585 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once attempted to wrap a SWIG wrapper around C++ code that heavily used Boost and templates. < 1175841595 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suddenly found a new disrespect for the language. < 1175841600 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SWIG? < 1175841615 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, templated/boost code can get very hard to read if you aren't careful < 1175841625 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SWIG lets you use C/C++ code in languages that support SWIG wrappers without a specific FFI built-in for the language. < 1175841626 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although things like boost::any are quite clean, imo.) < 1175841635 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'm not an actual C++ coder after all. < 1175841640 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: I want to do something in objc < 1175841651 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFI? < 1175841652 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: ObjC hmmm? < 1175841658 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone proposed OCaML earlier. < 1175841687 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a C++ coder... it's what I know :P < 1175841694 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see. < 1175841701 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's the only thing your head has enough room left for :P < 1175841714 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't stand C++ < 1175841721 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you kidding? < 1175841724 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is HUGE < 1175841728 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is terrible < 1175841738 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1175841744 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't say it's _terrible_ < 1175841751 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is rather annoying sometimes < 1175841794 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what makes it terrible. < 1175841815 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like languages which I don't have to devote my entire life to to code in. < 1175841902 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1175841913 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't devoted my whole life to C++ < 1175841916 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only 18 :P < 1175841940 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although admittedly, it's taken me about 5 years to get "good" at it < 1175841958 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1175841969 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I wish C++ had a 'finally' key word :| < 1175841976 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.digitalmars.com/d/ < 1175841979 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd save so much fucking trouble < 1175841987 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://dgcc.sourceforge.net/ < 1175842042 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm younger than you, and I don't want to be your age by the time I become profficient at it :P < 1175842055 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I don't want to use D is that it's not well-enough-known yet. < 1175842070 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want something that compiles to a lot of platforms. < 1175842113 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired of having either Xpdf and I-leak-memory-like-a-burst-blood-vessel Poppler in t3h *nix world and Adobe's locked-in proprietary thingamabobber in Windows. < 1175842127 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foxit Reader? < 1175842152 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not open! < 1175842199 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus it has Advanced Add-Ons you can pay for. < 1175842200 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guh. < 1175842207 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just guh. < 1175842241 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1175842245 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it bothers me too a bit < 1175842263 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe < 1175842279 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should program your pdf viewer in brainfuck :) < 1175842283 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, any takers for the project? < 1175842298 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1175842303 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google code has project hosting? < 1175842306 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I was also seriously considering Forth, because it's stack-based just like PS/PDF so.... < 1175842333 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has stacks :D < 1175842345 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1175842387 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ probably has Your Mom also. < 1175842390 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point? :P < 1175842422 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1175842427 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has rapists < 1175842429 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ -- there's the point! < 1175842431 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. That's a period/full-stop. < 1175842438 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1175842446 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can call it a 'point' if I really want to ... :) < 1175842451 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1175842452 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A point has an infinitely small thickness, remember? < 1175842456 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMGROFL < 1175842464 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This project currently has no issues." < 1175842476 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr? < 1175842485 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... yeah < 1175842493 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Cough* < 1175842498 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: shouldn't be hard to make it cross platform < 1175842569 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1175842589 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i hate xpdf's interface < 1175842589 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1175842596 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind it. < 1175842608 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Work will begin after AP tests finish. < 1175842613 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My feet are hairy. < 1175842623 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized this. < 1175842632 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..................................... < 1175842636 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright-o. < 1175842658 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My head is hairy. < 1175842663 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Java, bsmntbombdood? :P < 1175842673 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I'd hope so... otherwise you'd be bald. < 1175842674 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo!! < 1175842684 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that bad, if you code correctly. < 1175842690 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It is. < 1175842694 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is that bad. < 1175842695 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It's not. < 1175842697 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: That's what they say about C++ :) < 1175842699 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not that bad. < 1175842719 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only reason Java might not fly is speed. < 1175842720 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is mostly C++ with a few changes. < 1175842729 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1175842733 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean, a syntax that doesen't make you barf? < 1175842733 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't write your project in Java < 1175842734 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: ......... no. < 1175842739 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: um, noo < 1175842745 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite different :P < 1175842750 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1175842756 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very much different < 1175842760 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1175842770 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garbage collection. Exceptions. < 1175842776 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has those < 1175842778 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No explicit memory management. < 1175842783 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has garbage collection? < 1175842786 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java has eliminated everything that doesn't fit their "OO is the only way" concept. < 1175842789 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God help us all. < 1175842815 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a couple ways of doing GC either directly in C++ or on top of it < 1175842821 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1175842823 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's there < 1175842828 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are ways of doing GC in C too. < 1175842831 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1175842843 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it isn't built in, but neither is std::vector < 1175842846 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :java is better than c++ < 1175842851 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1175842866 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- officially no longer part of this conversation. < 1175842877 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION officially pulls Gregor back in.
< 1175842894 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I didn't say C++ was better than java < 1175842906 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just said it was about the same in terms of the way it's built. there's a difference ;) < 1175842916 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ isn't in my list of languages. So there. < 1175842921 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1175842930 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1175842935 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java, OCaML, ObjC and why. < 1175842935 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: java is too slow < 1175842942 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree. < 1175842944 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Mmmm. I beg to differ. < 1175842955 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: have you used open-office? < 1175842956 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever coded a significant application yourself? < 1175842964 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in java, no < 1175842968 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than rely on cr** code other people make? < 1175842986 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. I coded an NN framework and a small signal process framework in it. < 1175843006 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both fast and light, and this is an aging machine. (1.6 GHz, 256 MB RAM). < 1175843034 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even while using double-point floats almost everywhere. < 1175843053 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah blah blah, this is better that is better, blah blah blah, my god has a bigger penis than your god, blah blah blah. < 1175843068 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1175843080 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, I have Physics to cram for. Squabble it out for yerselves. < 1175843158 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Your god has a penis? :P < 1175843196 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: In a totally non-homoerotic way. < 1175843210 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: my penis has a bigger god than brainfuck's < 1175843216 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1175843225 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no god.
< 1175843245 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: Then my god does have a bigger penis than your god. Therefore I win all arguments. < 1175843249 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION takes a bow.
< 1175843269 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a god, therefore the argument is 'N/A' :P < 1175843277 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: no < 1175843285 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your god can't have a bigger penis than something that doesn't exist ;) < 1175843293 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even imaginatively ;) < 1175843301 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a penis is bigger than no penis < 1175843311 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it really? < 1175843336 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like saying an apple is bigger than the number zero. < 1175843345 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1175843358 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. It's an illogical comparison ;) < 1175843376 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1175843379 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares? :P < 1175843387 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's silly. < 1175843541 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vacuous truth < 1175843621 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F = Figs's god's penis < 1175843624 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G = GregorR's < 1175843631 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1175843639 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I declare this conversation over. < 1175843675 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1175843691 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, everybody go talk about how whootsy http://www.codu.org/plof/ is :) < 1175843695 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The language, not the web site ;) < 1175843697 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1175843713 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\forall x \in F.\forall y \in G. y > x < 1175843716 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRUTH < 1175843738 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but F is the null pointer! < 1175843741 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1175843745 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if F is the empty set < 1175843757 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can < 1175843760 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall x in F < 1175843762 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work < 1175843766 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there is no x in F? < 1175843788 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my empty set is bigger than your empty set? < 1175843791 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah? Prove it. < 1175843859 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's vacuously true < 1175843990 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vacuous: noun. (1) Emptied of or lacking content. (2) marked by lack of ideas or intelligence: stupid, inane. < 1175843993 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*adjective < 1175844029 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf wikipedia < 1175844045 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JFGI < 1175844093 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :John found good igloos? < 1175844102 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fucking google it < 1175844126 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jfgi? webster. :P < 1175844161 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you meant your argument, no thanks. I don't want penis in my browser. :P < 1175844187 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION changes the subject
< 1175844195 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To Plof! < 1175844210 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plof? < 1175844215 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/plof/ < 1175844217 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put lead on food? < 1175844242 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1175844245 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1175844254 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw function thick < 1175844257 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I read "fuck" < 1175844258 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I < 1175844261 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought... < 1175844264 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1175844267 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fuck is a keyword???" < 1175844274 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. < 1175844276 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1175844278 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :var you = Figs; fuck you; < 1175844279 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Painful Licking Of the French < 1175844289 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww < 1175844292 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1175844292 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLOFF! < 1175844313 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pitiful licking of french fries! < 1175844346 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the ~= operator in D? < 1175844351 0 :ShadowHntr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"End of line." < 1175844363 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: ~ is concatenation. ~= is to ~ as += is to + < 1175844370 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1175844446 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should the function in foreach be given the current element? < 1175844461 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of a "ref"? < 1175844482 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :std.plof < 1175844499 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's commented out because I don't have an implementation of it yet :P < 1175844516 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was from the leading edge of Plof1. < 1175844528 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't see the comments < 1175844536 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading code in browser == bad < 1175844539 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1175844651 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok bedtime < 1175844663 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnight < 1175844677 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`night bsmntbombdood < 1175844818 0 :nazgjunk!n=htitan@wikipedia/Nazgjunk JOIN :#esoteric < 1175844828 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1175844841 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to get up in 5:30 hours < 1175844879 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1175844886 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1175844898 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks. < 1175844902 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go get some zzz. < 1175844910 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK < 1175844941 0 :nazgjunk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tickles the zzz-machine
< 1175844998 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZZZ!!!! < 1175845015 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the ZZZ-machine has explosmed.* < 1175845180 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1175845231 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk food < 1175846351 0 :nazgjunk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bi-la Kaifa" < 1175846399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1175846400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1175846484 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1175846507 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb < 1175849682 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1175851133 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-71-218.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175851408 0 :gg_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1175851888 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know the meaning of the word 'deasil'? < 1175852033 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is ``you'' ? < 1175852218 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here who cares enough to look the word up :P < 1175852245 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: it's the opposite of widdershins < 1175852263 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there are any you's here then. < 1175852324 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1175852348 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so clockwise? < 1175852490 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah. < 1175852549 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: Go and spend that time doing something useful. < 1175852553 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like making more Esolangs. < 1175852615 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abscotchalater: n. one hiding from the police. < 1175852703 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overgregarious < 1175852708 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look that one up. < 1175852817 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pshhh < 1175853908 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1175855610 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna get off, gnight < 1175855674 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1175855676 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya < 1175855678 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1175856248 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"gnight, and remember to troll the #teamloosh channel on irc.bluehell.org" < 1175856532 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1175858389 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1175859300 0 :jix__!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-182-160.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1175859377 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1175865592 0 :Pikhq!n=pikhq@c-75-70-225-157.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175866900 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1175869198 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1175870904 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1175871915 0 :nooga!n=nooga@xdsl-6552.lubin.dialog.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1175872066 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-71-218.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175872185 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1175872185 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1175872189 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1175872211 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80-162.cust.umeaenergi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1175875325 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!n=chatzill@81.152.252.88 JOIN :#esoteric < 1175875354 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1175877055 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@122.46.198.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1175878299 0 :CRathman!n=chatzill@69.15.198.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1175879770 0 :kbrooks!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1175882327 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1175883571 0 :Pikhq!n=pikhq@c-75-70-225-157.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175884120 0 :helios24!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 148 (No route to host) < 1175888022 0 :CRathman_!n=chatzill@69.15.198.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1175888507 0 :CRathman!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1175888650 0 :helios24!i=helios@gaia.quasar-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1175888686 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1175890117 0 :atrapado!i=opened@183.Red-81-47-6.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175892226 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175892281 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a formal definition of Turing-completeness? < 1175892386 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, yes: turing machines, lambda calculus < 1175892406 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "Turing machines, lambda calculus" it? < 1175892424 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1175892503 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1175892505 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1175894059 0 :Pikhq!n=pikhq@c-75-70-225-157.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175894201 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: yes, there is < 1175894225 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: look up the church-turing thesis on wikipedia... < 1175894512 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see a definition there, other than "Any non-interactive computer program can be translated into a Turing machine, and any Turing machine can be translated into any Turing complete programming language". < 1175894670 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1175894682 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose there's a more formal statement of the thesis by the saints themselves < 1175894748 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing-completeness, not the Church-Turing thesis... < 1175894780 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-085-016-233-208.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1175894783 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: it's related < 1175894820 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Related, yes, but I'm looking for a definition of Turing-completeness. < 1175894929 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175895274 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1175895719 0 :ShadowHntr!i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175898372 0 :bsmnt_bot!n=bsmnt@abacus.kwzs.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1175898396 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@abacus.kwzs.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1175898602 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-71-218.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175898820 0 :ShadowHntr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"End of line." < 1175899078 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1175899080 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1175899136 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1175899348 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which should I use for a PDF viewer: Java, OCaML, or ObjC and why? < 1175899373 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders the nonexistence of the CFC (Catch Fire and Continue) instruction.
< 1175899427 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ocaml because it pwns all the others mentioned < 1175899463 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah-hah. < 1175899499 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively you could use Scala if you want JVM support. < 1175899541 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language has to be relatively common. < 1175899639 0 :CRathman_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python has a nice pdf library available < 1175899642 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: f00f (or so it's called) comes close. < 1175899648 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, wait a minute. < 1175899655 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to depend on an external library. < 1175899658 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That. < 1175899742 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ObjC, because it's fast and looks interesting < 1175899767 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... ah, never mind. < 1175899896 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought for a moment ihope was responding to the PDF question and wondered what programming language f00f was...
< 1175899942 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll design an esolang and call it f00f, and add a CFC instruction. < 1175899958 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also damages the ozone layer! < 1175899970 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes! and added bonus. < 1175899973 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an < 1175900443 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No-one's lobbying languages. < 1175900445 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1175900472 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pshhh. Y'all'r boring. < 1175900568 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's write a programming language that has a market economy instead of a command economy. < 1175900609 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION did
< 1175900617 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a bunch of individuals, which are issued... things which they can trade to each other. < 1175900621 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: you did? < 1175900629 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ObjC, because it's fast and looks interesting < 1175900678 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No-one's lobbying other than bsmntbombdood :( < 1175900691 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ocaml because it pwns all the others mentioned < 1175900734 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective-C has a market economy? < 1175900753 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1175900813 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe... < 1175900897 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...maybe the individuals go around reproducing and evolving and dying and stuff, and the only way you can do anything is by controlling the Fed. < 1175901190 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you output this character, I'll give you a dollar." < 1175901243 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make it so that the only trade you can do is buying and selling. That way, no trade can happen unless there's money in the world. < 1175901303 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The amount of money determines the amount of trade: if there's only one indivisible unit of money in the world, everything is either available for free, not available, or available for the price of one unit. < 1175901305 0 :CRathman_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.78 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]" < 1175901352 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff with utility probably won't be free, so that means that which is available costs one unit. < 1175901449 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i suspect Scala is as portable as Java, being built on top of it. < 1175901465 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1175901513 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't know for sure, since i have never actually tried it. < 1175901819 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"atra pa do" < 1175901900 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...behold - a very convuluted cat program < 1175901926 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/4267 < 1175901979 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = getContents >>= putStr < 1175901986 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is very different indeed. < 1175902019 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I very much hope you can write a better cat program than that in Python. < 1175902023 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1175902055 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that not only copy-input-to-output but a concatenator? < 1175902057 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = interact id < 1175902078 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while True: print raw_input() < 1175902097 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that too, yes. < 1175902110 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1175902124 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = getContents >> putStr "" < 1175902128 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was actually a library for Python generators I was messing with... making a cat program out of it sounded like a good test. < 1175902132 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A different kind of zero program. < 1175902158 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that getContents seems somewhat redundant < 1175902300 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = getChar >>= putChar >> main < 1175902488 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can write a shorter one in BASH. < 1175902547 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat takes files from its argv < 1175902715 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say main=interact id is the winner. < 1175902742 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not a quine: main=main < 1175902813 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :import System.Environment; main = getArgs >>= mapM_ (putStr . readFile) < 1175902845 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh wait < 1175903004 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :import System.Environment; main = getArgs >>= mapM_ ((putStr =<<) . readFile) < 1175903308 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, good luck putStr'ing that. < 1175903345 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, something wrong with it? < 1175903355 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :import readline, sys; for i in readline.readline(): sys.stdout.write(i) < 1175903386 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You corrected it for a reason, aye? < 1175903405 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1175903964 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = flip mapM_ [putStr, print] $ flip ($) "main = flip mapM_ [putStr, print] $ flip ($) "