< 1177113768 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rar < 1177113775 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont know sed as well as I should :p < 1177113778 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks somthing up < 1177113895 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::[ < 1177113900 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sed doesnt support \| :/ < 1177113991 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you need that for? < 1177114008 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like this\|that, to match "this" or "that" < 1177114014 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose ill have to use two expressions then < 1177114017 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a shame < 1177114063 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are matching single characters, just use [] < 1177114077 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its either a single space, or 3 characters < 1177114091 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1177114233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your sed support the -r option? < 1177114243 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :/ < 1177114245 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a crap sed < 1177114262 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think ill just take out spaces < 1177114290 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1177114495 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1177114503 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can I have a fucntion named : but not a variable: | < 1177114562 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x=sed`echo '0ヰ1東2京3ス4ス5オ6ラ7カ8ス9ケaトbダcガd㒵eジfヤ' | sed -e 's/\(.\)\(...\)/ -e s\/\1\/\2\/g/g'` && while true ; do dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1200 count=1 2>/dev/null | md5 ; done | $x < 1177114566 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot shorter! thanks :D < 1177114604 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to find a secretive name for the variable < 1177114864 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1177114908 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true ; do dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1200 count=1 2>/dev/null | md5 ; done | sed`echo '0ヰ1東2京3ス4ス5オ6ラ7カ8ス9ケaトbダcガd㒵eジfヤ' | sed -e 's/\(.\)\(...\)/ -e s\/\1\/\2\/g/g'` < 1177114913 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1177114930 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@ < 1177114932 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1!!!!! < 1177114932 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW < 1177114937 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn < 1177114941 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: thanks a lot < 1177114946 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didnt actually know that you could do that < 1177114952 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn :D < 1177115135 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-75-70-172-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177115234 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why the md5 in there? < 1177115305 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :md5 generates a fixed length string from the characters 0-9a-z < 1177115311 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just hash random data then transform it < 1177115314 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes a matrix effect lol < 1177115512 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177117663 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1177117692 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hey this is a good place to ask :D < 1177117698 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering what the most simple languages are < 1177117701 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though < 1177117723 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda calculus has 3 cases to consider, brainfuck has 7 (if you ignore inputs) and life has 8 cases < 1177117730 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but am I missing anything? < 1177117740 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wht about 2 4 5 and 6? < 1177117953 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: single combinator systems < 1177117965 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one combinator, one application character < 1177117992 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1177118028 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds very interesting < 1177118285 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can I find out more? < 1177118374 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember the name, but there's a functional language with 2. < 1177118421 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'd argue that as far as instruction set goes, Life is the simplest. :p < 1177118436 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1177118447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life has 2 states. < 1177118463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And instructions for transformations between these 2 states. < 1177118466 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but the rules of evaluation are somewhat more complex I think < 1177118474 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all that complex, really. < 1177118516 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really just a 2 dimensional analog of a Turing machine. < 1177119411 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: iota is one that's written up, but there are better ones < 1177119466 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ling.ucsd.edu/~barker/Iota/ < 1177119467 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1177119687 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool :D < 1177120538 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insert enthusiastic shout of "SevenInchBread!" here. < 1177120595 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: are you aware of OISC? < 1177120601 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1177120609 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One instruction computing. < 1177120612 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OISC is fun. < 1177120633 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The options for that one instruction range from SBN to MOV. < 1177120825 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes! < 1177120833 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OISC is sweet < 1177120834 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Turing complete. < 1177120838 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats weird < 1177120839 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, it is sweet. < 1177120869 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOV is Turing complete by having special addresses in the CPU. . . < 1177120884 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And SBN just gets one instruction that does multiple things. < 1177120889 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subleq is nicer < 1177120894 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It subtracts *and* conditionally branches. < 1177120896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Yeah. < 1177120945 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody hell! < 1177120948 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats really crazy < 1177120958 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1177120961 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean about MOV < 1177120968 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not crazy. < 1177120968 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never thought of thta < 1177120972 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean like < 1177120975 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1177120986 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A MOV OISC has been implemented in Wireworld, BTW. < 1177121001 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thereby proving Wireworld's Turing completeness) < 1177121119 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1177121135 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats neat < 1177121184 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That kind of stuff is why we're here in #esoteric. :) < 1177123982 0 :goban!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1177124503 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALRIGHT < 1177124516 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... what are all the options that a context switch system call might need? < 1177124522 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far I've just got a maximum time. < 1177124568 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could do things like "until system call" or "until sends a messge" or something < 1177124678 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep the system calls to a minimum? < 1177124686 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, what precisely do you mean by a "context switch system"? < 1177124702 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...a context switch system call < 1177124730 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a system call that switches the context of CPU execution to another processes state < 1177124734 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1177124783 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, I don't care about the number of system calls -- that doesn't determine how small your kernel is. < 1177124788 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just how limited the interface is ;) < 1177124817 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you NEED a context switch system call if you don't want the scheduling algorithm in the kernel itself. < 1177124827 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have interrupts? < 1177124847 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not of the software sort. < 1177124866 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hardware interupts are implied... and I've got a way to handle them. < 1177124962 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1177124995 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a method for flagging processes (or whatever) at different priority levels? < 1177125002 0 :RainbowTrout!n=chatzill@12.178.87.91 JOIN :#esoteric < 1177125028 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, I've got a way to set attributes... so the scheduler can set a priority attribute if it wants. < 1177125048 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RainbowTrout, YOU CAN ALREADY TELL THIS CONVERSATION IS A BLAST < 1177125053 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INDEED. < 1177125071 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm... < 1177125080 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello RainbowTrout < 1177125085 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1177125087 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1177125097 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION quietly ignores that. < 1177125099 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate your face. < 1177125106 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR FACE IS STUPIDER < 1177125109 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not as much as I .. < 1177125110 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1177125112 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT ISNT < 1177125117 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah? < 1177125123 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you enjoy having a nose? < 1177125135 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Go on < 1177125151 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANSWER THE GOD DAMN QUESTION < 1177125158 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER < 1177125176 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~help < 1177125182 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1177125190 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ahem- ignore. < 1177125202 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swims. < 1177125729 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SevenInchBread: what CPU is this for? x86? < 1177125886 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1177125936 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, then you should have some interesting/painful hardware features to play with for this < 1177126180 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find the "barrel processor" approach to multitasking fascinating- with well designed software, very efficient. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_processor < 1177126207 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....why do I twitch whenever I hear the word "efficient" < 1177126222 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE THIS WORD, FOR NO REASON AT ALL < 1177126228 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because it should *always* be conditionalized < 1177126238 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....what? < 1177126244 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is universally efficient, an oft-missed fact < 1177126246 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: that's interesting < 1177126259 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just think of annoying business people and uptight engineer nerd people and SUICIDE < 1177126273 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1177126312 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: what if there's less than enough threads? < 1177126329 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the main issue < 1177126353 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how do you put proccesses at different priorities? < 1177126370 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be able to design your OS to prevent that from happening, or at least make use of empty threads < 1177126371 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I don't think it's intended to be the... high-level part. < 1177126382 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't use priorities at all < 1177126393 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...reminds me of a machine gun < 1177126415 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if they just had a array of pointers to threads < 1177126429 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could fill that array fully with one thread to run it constantly < 1177126431 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes me think of a shotgun. "Double barreled", usw. < 1177126460 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could work pretty well < 1177126489 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....how do you use pointers in... hardware? < 1177126512 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing is that a CPU like that would be shit-tons harder to deadlock < 1177126513 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SevenInchBread: same way you use them in software? < 1177126520 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SevenInchBread: they're called "registers" < 1177126536 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: the os breaks in every timer interupt... < 1177126542 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so deadlocking should be hard < 1177126562 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the kernel wants to stop you from running, it only has to wait 1/60 second < 1177126575 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you = a thread < 1177126729 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, you could do a dual core processor... one being a single-thread "master" CPU... and a second barrel processor. < 1177126818 0 :bd_!n=foo@donlanbj3.umeres.maine.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1177126820 0 :RProgrammer!n=RProgram@WPNT834.dsl.gcectelecom.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1177126824 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...IF YOU WANTED < 1177126842 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SevenInchBread: meet RProgrammer. :-) < 1177126863 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI :) < 1177126873 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bd_ too, for that matter. < 1177126880 0 :bd_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hides* < 1177126880 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola < 1177126884 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone use J? < 1177126884 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI BD_ NICE WEATHER YEAH :) < 1177126889 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :J? < 1177126899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo. < 1177126899 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its kinda based on APL < 1177126900 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Java, I take it < 1177126902 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: do you know much about programming for the x86? < 1177126907 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1177126911 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not really esoteric.. < 1177126915 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs a true test of geekiness. . . < 1177126920 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jsoftware.com/ < 1177126921 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1177126924 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly because I'm using a PPC right now < 1177126925 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found it cool < 1177126926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knowledge of Brainfuck? < 1177126927 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bd_: do you know much about programming for the x86? < 1177126954 0 :bd_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope >.> < 1177126976 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1177127095 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....I know a smidgeon. < 1177127098 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only a smidgeon < 1177127125 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION much prefers less esoteric architectures than IA32. < 1177127220 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Your definition of "esoteric" is clearly incorrect. Regardless of how sensible or nonsensical an architecture is, if it's popular, it's not esoteric. < 1177127220 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I came up with Whitespace < 1177127240 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I'm obviously kidding. < 1177127262 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I really mean is, of course, that IA32 is a nonsensical architecture, worthy of being esoteric. < 1177127274 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1177127337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly. . . < 1177127362 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The current IA32 system I'm using supports IA16, IA32, and AMD64. . . Somehow. < 1177127430 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1177127432 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO SIR < 1177127439 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY OPINION IS SUPERIOR TO YOURS < 1177127695 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion is objective and is therefore perfect. < 1177127748 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION snickers < 1177127820 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION creates a subclass of ihope, adds functions, and is now more perfect than ihope < 1177127866 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff. < 1177127880 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfection is achieved not when nothing can be added but when nothing can be removed. < 1177127893 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, I must be JObject or TObject or whatever fancy thing it is. < 1177127958 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I were part of the Java API, I'd want to be java.util < 1177127981 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it contains so many of my good friends, like Vector and Random. < 1177128003 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah Random, what happy times they were... < 1177128111 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a room-sized faraday cage < 1177128122 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with lead shielding < 1177128131 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with concrete < 1177128155 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a generator, I presume? < 1177128181 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power in can be filtered < 1177128199 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suppose a nuclear reactor would be best for power < 1177128354 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is becoming more of an underground complex than a room. < 1177128362 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I fully endorse. < 1177128376 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underground complexes are awesome for a number of reasons. < 1177128379 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, a bunker < 1177128400 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bunker would be sofa king cool < 1177128451 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always thought it'd be pretty awesome to live in a renovated nuclear bunker. < 1177128507 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1177128948 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants an underground complex for house/server warehouse < 1177128962 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I co-op there? < 1177128990 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, we all have the same dream < 1177129007 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure; just pay me for the power usage. < 1177129017 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bandwidth, of course. < 1177129026 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should give you some rock-solid stability. < 1177129043 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfft, bandwidth, just hack some guy's satellite internet < 1177129048 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Survive the nuclear war, it will. < 1177129059 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: We're talking "500 T3 lines" < 1177129063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1177129073 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but the internet and power distribution networks won't, so it doesn't matter < 1177129084 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By some guy, I mean NASA < 1177129086 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1177129094 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ll < 1177129095 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1177129097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Nuclear power in-bunker. . . < 1177129103 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Internet link? < 1177129112 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not so in-bunker < 1177129124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if there's a nuclear war, I'm going to be more about *surviving* than about watching Homestar. < 1177129137 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: Fine. In the same mountain. < 1177129153 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Hell; I'd just like to take over Cheyenne Mountain. :p < 1177129173 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty sweet < 1177129177 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not secure enough though < 1177129184 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean by definition, unless you want to put every network node in your mountain, Internet will always be the first to go < 1177129185 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't have to leave town, get an underground bunker. . . < 1177129188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth it. < 1177129193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: Yeah. < 1177129207 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1177129210 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, the idea at that point is to live, not to be online. < 1177129228 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: let's take over cheyenne mountain < 1177129248 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your server will *still* have rock-solid stability. . . Although nobody else will be able to tell, since they'll be dead. < 1177129252 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just have to lock ourselves in, and they'll never take it back from us < 1177129262 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, before it goes down, you download 73% of the internet into your 3 Petabytes of in-bunker storage < 1177129269 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Sure; only maybe an hour from here. :p < 1177129278 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: Screw 3 petabytes. < 1177129295 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could afford at *least* 100 with all of the co-op deals I'd be getting. < 1177129296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1177129296 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NORADBlast-Doors.jpg < 1177129305 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't get too big, 64-Bit won't hold it < 1177129309 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that picture makes me hot < 1177129339 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: That, um, doesn't matter anymore. . . < 1177129355 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's a nuclear war, I'm going to want a couple good novels and an offline copy of Wikipedia < 1177129365 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The addressing limit was gotten around for hard drives on 32 bit systems. . . In the late 90s. < 1177129375 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get Wikipedia in 10 gigabytes < 1177129384 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you can get wp db dumps < 1177129388 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure of the size, though < 1177129393 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1177129395 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there aren't exactly many OSes which mmap the *entire drive*. < 1177129411 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not memory, NFS < 1177129429 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nfs (lowercase) < 1177129434 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: that's my point- it's rather simple to do, and it'd be *awesome* to have in such a situation < 1177129456 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: Who said anything about NFS? I can use a *much* better system than that. . . < 1177129479 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I corrected nfs (lowercase) < 1177129481 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus maybe a complete dump of Bash.org for entertainment purposes and remembering the good 'ol days of IRC < 1177129490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hems and haws. . . RAID using network block devices? < 1177129503 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I despise ambiguous brand names (HD DVD, ...) < 1177129514 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... maybe an archive of textfiles.org as well < 1177129519 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some good reading there < 1177129527 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that? < 1177129532 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell. Just get an *orbiting* bunker. . . Large enough to contain everyone you care about. < 1177129541 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nevermind < 1177129553 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :64-Bit limit is 16384 Petabytes < 1177129561 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not at all the same and you know it. Underground is where it's at, unless by "orbiting", you mean "on the moon" < 1177129579 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one needn't worry about that, anyways; that only applies to addressing. < 1177129590 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 Exabytes < 1177129592 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: The moon is orbiting, isn't it? < 1177129599 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but still... < 1177129605 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I may want an orbiting *Mars-sized* bunker. < 1177129618 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carry the half of the planet you care about. :p < 1177129620 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kinda ceases to be a "bunker" at that point < 1177129630 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very, very large one. < 1177129635 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With that you wouldn't have to worry about the internet... < 1177129641 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the idea. < 1177129652 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you would have to worry about your own nuclear wars < 1177129655 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it'd defeat the purpose by that point. < 1177129658 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at that scale, you'd have a very large risk of nuclear war *inside* the bunker, which just creates the same problem all over again < 1177129659 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1177129664 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat to the punch. < 1177129697 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you rule a race of genetically engineered little people whose sole religion is to pay tribute in server space... < 1177129712 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And make funny YouTube videos < 1177129764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if I pick out only those who aren't a nuclear war risk. < 1177129777 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will avoid Vi users. :p < 1177129915 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"first rule of DynaMars station: Do not talk about the implausibility or inefficiency of DynaMars station." < 1177129936 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.wikipedia.org/downloads/November_2006/en/ < 1177129951 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite right. < 1177129955 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.4GB * 4 for all of wikipedia < 1177129973 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit more for MySQL and MediaWiki. < 1177129984 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's html < 1177129997 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not wiki markup?! < 1177130006 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha? < 1177130015 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get an HTML dump now, too? < 1177130019 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kewl beans! < 1177130025 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1177130026 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see link < 1177130043 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah crap, loading the list of pages crashed firefox < 1177130046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd still prefer a database dump. < 1177130047 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, damn- that isn't half bad at all < 1177130051 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit more flexible. < 1177130058 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer html < 1177130076 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the database dump would be more useful long-run, but the HTML would be handy for portable viewing < 1177130078 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is the kind of person who already *has* MySQL running, just for the hell of it. < 1177130103 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.4 GB Compiled to HTML! And is that only Deflate, not even GZip?! < 1177130124 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is the kind of person that'd want to view the archive from a Zaurus or something < 1177130134 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, me too < 1177130138 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gzip is a compression format which uses the DEFLATE algorithm. . . < 1177130153 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had the hdd space, I would download that < 1177130178 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I thought it was slightly better than LZ77 < 1177130212 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is seriously considering downloading that < 1177130220 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a few gigs to spare... < 1177130234 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lucky my gigs spare me < 1177130253 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how often they dump it.. < 1177130265 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: read. < 1177130271 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"November 2006" < 1177130273 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found it *extremely* handy in the past having a copy of the Java API docs on my laptop < 1177130274 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wtf < 1177130288 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1177130299 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just noticed you can download wikipedia < 1177130301 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the html or the db dump is bigger < 1177130302 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is that the latest one? < 1177130311 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML is larger, has to be < 1177130315 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML might compress better, though < 1177130331 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiki markup uses templates, ultimate compression < 1177130343 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :information entropy ;( < 1177130349 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of the entropy?! < 1177130355 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer to think of templates as "pre-compressing" data < 1177130359 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble finding the sizes for the db dumps < 1177130368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Wiki database, IIRC, has compression on the live database. < 1177130372 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do some of the same things a normal compression engine would do < 1177130388 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could, of course, be wrong as fuck) < 1177130430 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble uncloging my tubes (it's not a truck!), I accidently clicked on the 261M file and, note to others: Firefox loads it as text < 1177130451 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, christ < 1177130469 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: I made the same mistake < 1177130518 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browsers should consider Content-Length, not just Content-Type when choosing to view or download < 1177130537 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would file a feature request if I wasn't lazy < 1177130572 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Did you want to save this file to disk, instead of viewing it in your browser? [view] [download]" < 1177130689 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1177130691 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, like they should for PDFs < 1177130701 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poorly worded. < 1177130724 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1177130744 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This file is 2000 Petabytes. Would you like to: [view] [download] [cancel request]" < 1177130752 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xml db dump is only 2.3GB < 1177130753 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LoL < 1177130768 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feels like a good moment to link http://www.codu.org/rxml.php < 1177130785 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shameless whore. < 1177130790 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1177130811 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raster images in xml? < 1177130813 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeewwwwwwwww < 1177130821 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vector, i can understand < 1177130840 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA < 1177130845 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1177130850 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snicker.. < 1177130872 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looool < 1177130874 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, "As of February of 2007, the entire collection of images produce a compressed tar.gz file of over 213 GB (gigabytes)." < 1177130877 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats like img2 < 1177130943 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: I think it uses something like: < 1177130951 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much in jpeg? < 1177130961 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1177130977 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1177130978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RProgrammer: That's a tarball of the JPEGs, PNGs, and SVGs. < 1177130981 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why dont they just use SQL < 1177130993 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: They also offer MySQL dumps. < 1177131005 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god :| < 1177131016 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps#What_happened_to_the_SQL_dumps.3F < 1177131024 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Apparently not. < 1177131056 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, my question is answered now, that site has monthly wikipedia HTML dumps. Up to April 2007 < 1177131116 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just imagine the analysis possibilities < 1177131129 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's part of the idea. < 1177131275 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1177131285 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad you can't get html of just content pages < 1177131323 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like half the size < 1177131391 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you could automate culling of stubs, but they often contain at least a small amount of information on the most esoteric topics on the Wikipedia < 1177131402 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet, wiktionary is only 46MB < 1177131404 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads < 1177131409 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah, cool < 1177131423 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use wiktionary all the time < 1177131439 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully the format is usable < 1177131779 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi, wiktionary decompressed is 364M < 1177132084 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still pretty small. < 1177132216 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1177132233 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how I can use it now though < 1177132276 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using find. < 1177132282 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ls & grep. < 1177132291 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, no < 1177132295 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a single xml file < 1177132309 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grep, then. < 1177132317 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't work < 1177132328 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not to my knowledge < 1177132419 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could write a script < 1177132524 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read line by line, searching the ... lines, scan ahead to the , display until < 1177132562 0 :RProgrammer!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1177132587 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a HTML parser in CL if you want < 1177132597 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't need a full parser < 1177132603 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well its not a full parser :P < 1177132730 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you need an XML parser, anyways. < 1177132763 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SGML != XML) < 1177132818 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't need a parser at all < 1177132965 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1177133213 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 1.5.0.11/2007031202]" < 1177133859 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic, it doesn't work < 1177134650 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking python < 1177134685 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like a caching sort of bug in file._i < 1177134690 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file.__iter__ < 1177135026 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it works < 1177135139 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda slow, about 5 seconds for a search < 1177135168 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on how close the word is to the top < 1177135467 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too impressive < 1177136383 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1177138605 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :operator < 1177139005 0 :operator!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :fax < 1177142399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1177142400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1177148430 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-108-16.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1177148767 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177149116 0 :goban!n=goban@ip68-107-157-108.hr.hr.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177151532 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1177153461 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-93-97.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1177154635 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1177160208 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1177170230 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1177174004 0 :jix__!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-045-059.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1177174276 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix < 1177174700 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177174764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1177175179 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1177177177 0 :nazgjunk!n=htitan@wikipedia/Nazgjunk JOIN :#esoteric < 1177179966 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177180048 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines the cartoon parkland scene from Mary Poppins, but with the music _Poisoning Pigeons in the Park_ < 1177181386 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1177181457 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1177181684 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1177181989 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" " < 1177185699 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1177186107 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-75-70-172-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177189605 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177189616 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1177191127 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1177191977 0 :bd_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1177194750 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1177194750 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1177194764 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177194764 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-93-97.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1177194929 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177196010 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1177196563 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1177196612 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1177196944 0 :SevenInchBread!n=CakeProp@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1177197998 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_File_System < 1177198047 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could mix pathnames with logic statements < 1177198066 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :path/name/here + other/path/here < 1177198087 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically all the set operations. < 1177198108 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... some recursive ones... or something < 1177199028 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1177199994 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat"