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03:06:08 <oerjan> hmph, it doesn't look more similar to C than to anything else vaguely C-like
03:08:30 <oerjan> on the other hand, i believe it is somewhere between C and perl, historically.
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03:22:02 <bsmntbombdood> Someone asks about pronouns in if statements, and someone gives a few lines of CL macro to do exactly that
03:23:24 <bsmntbombdood> http://compilers.iecc.com/comparch/article/00-02-149
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21:30:19 <fax> ⣓⣚⣝⣵⣩⣸⣾⣾⡿⡳⡩⡸⡬⡦⡽⡢⣴ <-- braillefuck program to print 99 bottles of beer on the wall song</lame-joke>
21:41:28 <fax> someone said that common lisps format string was turing complete
21:41:32 <fax> because it has goto
21:41:46 <fax> (complete without using // or whatver to call lisp functions that is)
21:42:43 <fax> I can kind of imagine how
21:42:50 <fax> & it has a conditional operator
21:43:14 <fax> im not really sure how you might do anything with it but ill probably try at some point
21:43:37 <fax> quasi because they dont take parameters?
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22:59:33 <fax> I think its impossible
22:59:52 <fax> pjd suggested writing the output to the input, which would work really nicley
23:00:01 <fax> if you could do a function call with an infinite number of parameters :/
23:00:13 <fax> of course with applicative order, cant happen :/
23:00:24 <fax> applicative order evaluation*-
23:00:31 <fax> so I think ill give u p
23:01:04 <fax> lament: I mean like you can use ~? to use the next argument as a format string
23:01:21 <fax> streams wouldnt be helpful in this situation
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23:26:18 <fax> I dont think its turing complete without ~//
23:26:22 <fax> e..g calling back into lip
23:27:29 <bsmntbombdood> does it have sequence, conditionals, and repitition?
23:28:31 <fax> dude I dunno
23:28:36 <fax> maybe but I think possibly not
23:39:55 <SimonRC> what about unbounded storage?
23:40:11 <fax> you can make a resizeable string
23:40:20 <fax> and use it as a parameter as well as output
23:40:28 <fax> but eve with that I cant see how to do this
23:40:44 <fax> I could maybe do stuff withh it if I could funcall with infinite number of parameters
23:40:48 <fax> but thats impossible :/
23:41:53 <oerjan> can someone point me to an actual description of format?
23:42:30 <fax> http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/a-few-format-recipes.html & http://www.lisp.org/HyperSpec/Body/sec_22-3.html