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01:18:58 <oerjan> don't be so negative.
01:23:32 <e_tothe_[pi_i]> heh
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02:49:58 <bsmntbombdood> jeez
02:50:06 <bsmntbombdood> awk is practically a superset of C
03:02:25 <oerjan> awk has pointers?
03:03:08 <GregorR> .....?
03:06:08 <oerjan> hmph, it doesn't look more similar to C than to anything else vaguely C-like
03:08:30 <oerjan> on the other hand, i believe it is somewhere between C and perl, historically.
03:09:10 <bsmntbombdood> no, no pointers
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03:21:24 <bsmntbombdood> aah, lisp always wins
03:22:02 <bsmntbombdood> Someone asks about pronouns in if statements, and someone gives a few lines of CL macro to do exactly that
03:22:24 <oerjan> huh?
03:23:24 <bsmntbombdood> http://compilers.iecc.com/comparch/article/00-02-149
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21:09:39 <UnrelatedToQaz> Quiet, isn't it?
21:09:55 <UnrelatedToQaz> It's the time difference wot does it.
21:11:58 <UnrelatedToQaz> It's noon in the US, at present.
21:12:00 <UnrelatedToQaz> I think.
21:12:05 <UnrelatedToQaz> So all are at work.
21:12:14 <UnrelatedToQaz> Good for them.
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21:29:19 <fax> Hello
21:29:46 <UnrelatedToQaz> Ah, hello.
21:30:19 <fax> ⣓⣚⣝⣵⣩⣸⣾⣾⡿⡳⡩⡸⡬⡦⡽⡢⣴ <-- braillefuck program to print 99 bottles of beer on the wall song</lame-joke>
21:41:28 <fax> someone said that common lisps format string was turing complete
21:41:32 <fax> because it has goto
21:41:46 <fax> (complete without using // or whatver to call lisp functions that is)
21:42:19 <UnrelatedToQaz> You can use goto to make quasi-functions anyway.
21:42:43 <fax> I can kind of imagine how
21:42:50 <fax> & it has a conditional operator
21:43:14 <fax> im not really sure how you might do anything with it but ill probably try at some point
21:43:37 <fax> quasi because they dont take parameters?
21:50:04 <UnrelatedToQaz> yeah, they're not much use
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21:50:13 <UnrelatedToQaz> but it's the thought that counts.
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22:59:11 <bsmntbombdood> common lisp's string format is terrible
22:59:33 <fax> I think its impossible
22:59:34 <fax> btw
22:59:52 <fax> pjd suggested writing the output to the input, which would work really nicley
23:00:01 <fax> if you could do a function call with an infinite number of parameters :/
23:00:13 <fax> of course with applicative order, cant happen :/
23:00:24 <fax> applicative order evaluation*-
23:00:31 <fax> so I think ill give u p
23:00:39 <lament> it's called streams
23:00:44 <lament> and already exists.
23:01:04 <fax> lament: I mean like you can use ~? to use the next argument as a format string
23:01:21 <fax> streams wouldnt be helpful in this situation
23:01:25 <fax> (sadly)
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23:01:55 <bsmntbombdood> hmm, alloca(3)
23:02:00 <bsmntbombdood> i didn't know you could do that
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23:25:54 <bsmntbombdood> write format in format
23:26:18 <fax> I dont think its turing complete without ~//
23:26:22 <fax> e..g calling back into lip
23:26:24 <fax> lisp*
23:27:29 <bsmntbombdood> does it have sequence, conditionals, and repitition?
23:27:46 <fax> yes
23:28:20 <bsmntbombdood> then it's turing complete
23:28:31 <fax> dude I dunno
23:28:36 <fax> maybe but I think possibly not
23:39:55 <SimonRC> what about unbounded storage?
23:40:11 <fax> you can make a resizeable string
23:40:20 <fax> and use it as a parameter as well as output
23:40:28 <fax> but eve with that I cant see how to do this
23:40:44 <fax> I could maybe do stuff withh it if I could funcall with infinite number of parameters
23:40:48 <fax> but thats impossible :/
23:41:53 <oerjan> can someone point me to an actual description of format?
23:41:59 <fax> sure
23:42:30 <fax> http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/a-few-format-recipes.html & http://www.lisp.org/HyperSpec/Body/sec_22-3.html