00:00:21 you can lay it out by hand when you only have a few hundred hosts 00:09:30 The modern Internet could be produced more nicely via /dev/urandom. 00:14:43 only true randomness on my internets! 00:16:35 apparently the internet's structure has a property known as scale-invariance, which is not the case for simple versions of randomness. 00:17:30 And apparently my Internet connection hates me. 00:23:15 har har, google "she invented" 00:38:18 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 00:49:14 * SimonRC goes to bed 00:56:11 Anybody know where CakeProphet went? 01:10:12 last seen may 4, when he said nothing 01:13:14 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 01:54:15 -!- Pikhq has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:54:40 -!- Pikhq has joined. 02:25:28 -!- calamari has joined. 03:24:42 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 04:07:23 -!- ihope has quit (Connection timed out). 04:58:55 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 14:23:15 -!- Pikhq has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 15:36:56 -!- the_entropy has joined. 15:51:07 -!- crathman has joined. 16:41:28 -!- sebbu has joined. 18:28:20 -!- calamari has joined. 18:39:21 -!- oerjan has joined. 18:48:34 -!- Pikhq has joined. 19:22:38 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 19:24:15 -!- calamari has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:30:47 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). 19:36:27 hi people 19:36:42 hello 19:47:49 where be my entropys? 19:48:03 <_< 19:50:02 Today's entropy forecast: Low but rising. 19:50:17 lol 19:50:34 i'm more interested in tommrow's, today's is almost over 19:50:59 s/today's/today/ 19:51:27 Long-term entropy forecast: Low but rising for the next few billion years. 19:51:44 :) 19:51:52 there is no entropy 19:51:57 everything is predetermined 20:26:03 i knew you were going to say that. 20:26:56 * the_entropy shrugs 20:53:22 -!- crathman has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]"). 21:03:07 -!- Sgeo has joined. 21:09:25 * SimonRC <3 the Internet. 21:11:21 Story: Someone posts some information in an obscure place where maybe 100 people will see it. A second person takes unreasonable objection to the information being available and tries to take some legal action them. The first person puts up a notice saying that this has happened. The second person tries to sue them for saying so... 21:12:16 The story hits the fron pages of digg and slashdot, so 100 MILLION people see this information. Songs are recorded, domain names purchased, and t-shirts printed. 21:12:54 You Have Lost at the intarnet. Please insert 50p to continue. 21:19:56 It would have been more satisfying if the information revealed had been a complete crack rather than, as I understand, a nearly throwaway code. Or maybe that just makes it even more pathetic. 21:25:21 -!- ihope has joined. 21:25:27 oerjan: The complete crack should be out by August. :p 21:26:06 (currently, they've got an undefeatable way to *copy* disks; the complete decryption crack is forthcoming) 21:26:37 there is a crack, isn't there? 21:26:37 Undefeatable way to *copy* them? 21:26:47 Isn't that... already possible? 21:27:03 Assuming the media isn't weird, that is. 21:28:12 the media is always weird. any article on a subject you actually are an expert in always contains errors. 21:29:39 ihope: The HD-DVD format has certain 'unreadable' bits required for decryption. . . Usually, getting at them requires a cryptographic handshake with the drive. 21:29:51 -!- the_entropy has quit ("l8er"). 21:30:01 so hack the drive 21:30:06 One of the cracks out there is a patched firmware for the Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive, allowing one to obtain those unreadable bits. .. 21:30:12 bsmntbombdood: That's been done. 21:30:26 personally my pet peeve is how i see journalists put a token statistical number into an article, but it is a number which gives no information in isolation. 21:30:36 or nearly none. 21:32:59 wtf? 21:33:01 http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/07/lousy_test_question_.html 21:33:10 lousy test question, indeed 21:39:24 Are you allowed to check multiple answers? 21:41:29 No. If you do that, you get a zero on the whole test automatically. 21:42:48 Then I'll just leave that one blank. 21:48:57 If you do *that*, you get a zero on the whole test automatically. 21:49:05 And if you get it wrong. 21:49:18 But if you get it right, you automatically get 100% on the test. 21:53:47 :-S 21:59:10 (The test consists only of that one question, right?) 22:00:09 HMMMM 22:00:20 i am afraid i am going to have to flunk ihope on reading comprehension. 22:00:25 well, realistically, it's B 22:00:39 Is that another -ally word? 22:00:54 you COULD make a case for each of the answers 22:01:01 but that is true of very many multiple-choice questions 22:01:09 but B is the most correct option 22:01:30 i would prefer C. 22:01:33 that is, in practice it's the one that gets used. 22:01:52 liquids are almost always measured by volume. 22:02:12 hm, right. 22:02:16 for one, it's much easier to find their volume than their weight 22:02:31 since the applesauce is probably already in a jar. 22:03:01 if the question had been in the cooking section rather than math it would not have been controversial at all. 22:04:19 There's a cooking section? 22:04:20 :-P 22:04:28 there could have been 22:14:45 Sure, it would've. 22:14:59 "Where's the hogheads option?" 22:15:41 shops sell it in grams 22:23:52 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 22:26:33 -!- cmeme has quit ("Client terminated by server"). 22:26:33 -!- cmeme has joined. 22:31:29 * SimonRC ponders http://www.thegreenwolf.com/afgto.html 22:43:33 Nice when it comes to fantasy indeed. 22:46:12 eh? 22:46:43 the book documents some peoples' actual beliefs 22:47:02 I almost certainly hang out with some of these people online. 22:56:44 Well, yes, there are those with those actual beliefs? 22:56:47 s/?/./ 23:05:52 -!- Pikhq has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 23:07:57 -!- Pikhq has joined. 23:09:26 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 23:28:49 -!- sebbu has quit (Connection timed out). 23:32:51 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 23:35:57 saying "uses metric" doesn't make much sense 23:37:13 lament: liquids are measured by mass 23:39:40 bsmntbombdood: not in any household uses 23:40:50 this can of soup says it contains "524 g" 23:41:09 and does not say the volume of the can? 23:42:26 it gives measurements in oz, lb, g 23:44:28 perhaps belgium is just a weird country. 23:45:15 belgium? 23:46:24 well, whichever country you're in :) 23:46:58 US 23:47:09 oh, well 23:47:12 presumably where the question is from 23:47:19 can't expect the US to do anything sanely 23:47:59 bsmntbombdood: where people actually use metric (as opposed to putting numbers on cans because there's a law that says you have to), they measure liquids by volume 23:48:22 i have lived in four different countries that all use metric, and it's the same everywhere. 23:49:17 blame canada. 23:49:34 canada is one of the four :) 23:50:41 and anyway, liter isn't even an SI unit 23:51:57 fortunately, the conversion is easy enough :)