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16:03:11 <SimonRC> bsmntbombdood: indeed, very old 
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16:51:26 * SimonRC wonders when the current set of bootstrapping actually started.  Some time in the 70s he suspects.  You can't design any but the smallest ICs without a computer too. 
16:52:31 <RodgerTheGreat> well, it's certainly shit-tons harder to do without a computer 
16:53:34 <RodgerTheGreat> I'd guess earlier than the 70s- that's just when minicomputers made computing reasonably affordable. Earlier than that, you still have some mainframes powerful enough to do compilation, bootstrapping and IC design 
17:20:57 <SimonRC> I think that there were still some computers made mostly without computer help in the 1970s 
17:21:55 <RodgerTheGreat> hm. true- most of the "big iron" of the day still relied mostly on discrete components 
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22:42:41 <SimonRC> Why do none of us make stuff like this?   http://forum.lolcode.com/viewtopic.php?id=30 
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23:00:46 <c|p> i have an idea 
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23:00:49 <c|p> "esoterrism" 
23:01:24 <c|p> as in: obscure terrorism 
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23:17:04 <SimonRC> Yeah, but don't have so much as an emacs mode. 
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