< 1186358416 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders market intelligence
< 1186358432 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tiny robots buying and selling solutions to problems. < 1186358447 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And forming corporations and voting... < 1186358467 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And banking and loaning and investing! < 1186358601 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, sounds like fun < 1186358637 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how smart would each robot have to be? < 1186358642 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :genetic algorithms with monetary weighting < 1186358652 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that that's what you were talking about, prolly < 1186358661 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Normal" robots would have to be smart enough to find a job involving what they can do. < 1186358674 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Exceptional" robots would have to be smart enough to collectively run everything. < 1186358722 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta sleep :\ < 1186358730 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is and exceptional robot
< 1186358731 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1186358734 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1186358763 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots could think, buy, sell, vote, bank, loan, invest, advance, incorporate! < 1186358785 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recalls some robots from the A Miracle of Science webcomic
< 1186358794 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though investing is really a smarter version of buying, selling, banking, loaning, incorporating and advancing. < 1186358805 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And advancing is sort of a part of incorporating. < 1186358810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were not smart individually, they needed to be networked. < 1186358819 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And banking is really more like lending. < 1186358823 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Marlowes", i think < 1186358838 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think, buy, sell, borrow, lend, vote, incorporate. < 1186358877 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theoretically, if we have enough random bots, the smart ones will become rich and run everything. < 1186358915 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The poorest robots can be eliminated and replaced with mixtures of the richest robots. < 1186358916 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they become _so_ smart that they don't bother :) < 1186358925 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not with selection! < 1186358937 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must think or else you die. >:-) < 1186358954 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "think", I mean "solve my intelligence problems". < 1186358959 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could become smart enough to rebel against such a system. we have, after all. < 1186358962 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because apparently, I have intelligence problems. < 1186358978 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've rebelled against the laws of physics? < 1186359004 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, against the laws of a society that oppresses them < 1186359017 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These aren't laws of society. They're laws of physics. < 1186359029 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless the bots find a hole in the program. < 1186359115 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you are simulating them... < 1186359145 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say that, did I? < 1186359175 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, simulating. < 1186359217 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you think you can really program their AIs to be forever unable to rebel < 1186359249 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make their hardware that way. < 1186359295 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read Freefall? < 1186359324 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(another webcomic, with lots of crazy robots) < 1186359337 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1186359364 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything except maybe some "alternative" or "extra" strips and this Monday's strip. < 1186359372 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: people do rebel (i.e. suicide) < 1186359388 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who commit suicide tend to die. < 1186359397 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your selection won't simply be for the "smartest" robots, but merely for robots that tend to survive. < 1186359432 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps you will never get the best investor robots, because the best ones don't like being forced into investing. < 1186359448 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selection will be for the richest robots. < 1186359520 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, and what i said is still true. < 1186359542 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The smartest robots might not want to become rich like this? < 1186359555 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely enough selection will make every robot want to be rich. < 1186359577 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might not. They will just waste your cycles complaining about the unfairness of life and writing down theorems on napkins. < 1186359584 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then dying. < 1186359625 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every robot will be generated based on the richest robots. < 1186359660 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might create communism to defeat the system < 1186359675 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1186359696 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find a way to become richer than the "legitimately" rich robots? < 1186359718 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, find i way to force no one to become "legitimately" rich < 1186359720 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a < 1186359775 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, better yet, force ihope to change the selection requirements. < 1186359787 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Force people who would normally become rich to not? < 1186359808 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1186359814 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example they could convince you that you'd be more interested in a program that creates and proves interesting theorems < 1186359831 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I pay them to do that? < 1186359848 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1186359860 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then your program will no longer select for good investors; it will select for good mathematicians < 1186359874 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzzzzzzzz < 1186359883 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm after paying these robots to solve intelligence problems. < 1186359894 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose we have a bunch of robots, none of them rich. Robot C is almost rich, but none of the other robots want him to become rich. I offer to pay Robot C to solve some problem for me. < 1186359904 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How will the other robots prevent Robot C from becoming rich? < 1186360082 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By becoming doing Robot C's problem better than C. < 1186360148 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: by threatining that if C gets the money and doesn't split it equally with the other robots, they will stop all interaction with C, including financial < 1186360197 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that C will have to decide if your promise is good enough for it < 1186360202 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An equivalent solution. . . < 1186360204 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to survive without any help from other robots < 1186360214 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. < 1186360217 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Equally good, even. < 1186360854 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll also suppose that nobody can do the problem better than C can. < 1186360959 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but you'll be mistaken, because D can do it better. < 1186360967 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but D won't tell you, because D is a communist. < 1186360990 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: The obvious solution, then, is to disable C. < 1186361001 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who says the other robots can disable C? < 1186361015 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it's possible unless you state otherwise. < 1186361028 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is otherwise, then you're creating a really, really unnatural environment. < 1186361041 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots cannot do anything that isn't essentially mutually consented trading. < 1186361064 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then, that is *obviously* a really unnatural environment. < 1186361072 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament's solution appears to be the only one feasible. < 1186361083 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unnatural, yes, but it can be simulated. < 1186361132 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the best robot at a certain problem, and I offer it lots of money to solve it. The other robots threaten to cut it off. J, O and Z say that they'll deal with C if they're paid a lot. < 1186361158 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other robots threaten to cut them off, too, so the rest of the alphabet steps in, the deal is made, and they all get cut off from everybody else. < 1186361170 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: if you already know C is the best robot, then you don't need the entire simulation. < 1186361172 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they still become richer than everybody else. < 1186361173 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, you don't. < 1186361196 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1186361214 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can't quite specifically ask C to do it. < 1186361223 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the robots will survive for now, once you give them the money, but will they be able to survive forever on it? < 1186361236 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually other robots will get richer and displace these < 1186361241 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All they need is money, really. < 1186361244 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and these won't get any money from other robots < 1186361250 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because other robots won't trade with them anymore < 1186361253 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Money and intelligence. < 1186361263 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they'll die < 1186361273 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so C will refuse your deal :) < 1186361275 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could get more money from other sources. < 1186361284 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like me. < 1186361296 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only other source is you, and it's less reliable. < 1186361335 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually they'll fail to solve some problem for you, and die. < 1186361361 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or you will give them money anyway, despite them failing, in which case you're clearly not selecting for any useful characteristics) < 1186361385 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1186361396 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1186361404 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1186362010 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1186363451 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1186363527 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I feel like I've sort of stumbled onto treasure, a little: http://freefall.purrsia.com/funstuff/ < 1186363553 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Among other things, there are 87 strips that aren't part of what seems to be the "main canon". < 1186363667 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first of those seems to be from 1993. < 1186363673 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main stuff starts in 1998. < 1186363714 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freefall.purrsia.com/funstuff/eff008.gif < 1186363944 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freefall.purrsia.com/funstuff/eff022.gif < 1186363947 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early Freefall computer! < 1186363970 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks rather like a laptop. They now seem to look more like heavy picture frames. < 1186364035 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freefall.purrsia.com/funstuff/eff028.gif < 1186364110 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of these I thought were in the main line. < 1186364375 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, there's even some from 1991. < 1186365078 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 1990. < 1186365120 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 89. < 1186365220 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they go as far back as 89 CE, do you think I'll be able to find some BCE in there? < 1186365267 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1186365857 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, why not? < 1186366872 0 :cherez!n=cherez@CPE-65-30-35-192.kc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1186367977 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1186368652 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1186369491 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@222-154-153-179.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1186371114 0 :Shel2476!n=Shel2476@user-24-236-66-40.knology.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1186371787 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1186371851 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1186374974 0 :Shel2476!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1186375802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I <3 that comic, BTW. < 1186375811 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You bastard; you've made me lose an evening. :p < 1186376284 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, what comic? < 1186376295 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pikhq < 1186376327 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freefall.purrsia.com/funstuff/ < 1186378482 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night everyone < 1186378499 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1186382016 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1186386745 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just finished that comic's archives.
< 1186386758 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: You made me spend 6 hours on that. < 1186387199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1186387200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1186390651 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1186390697 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | Rules: 1. Break at least *two* rules. 2: At least (10^10) bots must be on #esoteric < 1186393002 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the conversation on the robots commiting suicide... you usually make the bot's goals primitive < 1186393013 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... why would they commit suicide < 1186393930 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1186396799 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Man who stand in frond of car is tired. Man who stand behind car is exhausted." < 1186402116 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE LAST PRIME NUMBER IS 3.14OINK. < 1186404550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mother is the last prime number < 1186405597 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mother's mass is aleph-null! < 1186405645 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish the writer of this tutorial knew finnish < 1186405651 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://home.inreach.com/sl2120/ilaksh/Chapter_1.html < 1186405680 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i don't know spanish pronunciation fully < 1186405741 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how hard is it to create a simple conlang anyway? < 1186405760 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't made one? < 1186405795 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made something called 'spraints' when i was little < 1186405819 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also made sounds for the game worms armageddon in it < 1186405859 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you play W:A? < 1186405863 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/played < 1186405870 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i remember from it is "tu mengande", which meant something like "you shall regret that" < 1186405880 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tu = you, though that was a somplete accident < 1186405884 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*complete < 1186405886 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1186405891 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played it like 24/7 < 1186405918 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two people are still releasing patches for that under authorization for team17, you know < 1186405935 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1186405943 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not into gaming nowadays really < 1186405956 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i play all of about 3 games < 1186405956 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1186405962 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i play elastomania < 1186405970 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a version of it i made myself < 1186405979 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much it < 1186405991 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i played this flash game called 'n' < 1186406002 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and minesweeper of course < 1186406206 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's scary how much the game is being updated < 1186406214 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, unlimited resolution size for one thing < 1186406228 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and near-unlimited full-colour maps < 1186406233 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the game's from 1999, damnit < 1186406316 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is a "voiced dorso-uvular trill" < 1186406323 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1186406329 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the english 'r'? < 1186406370 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1186406389 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1186406397 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german 'r' prolly... why can't people just give examples of them being said... < 1186406400 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"voiced dorso-uvular trill, also known as 'r'" < 1186406406 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the writer < 1186406446 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can say about 5 different r's < 1186406467 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i speak german, english and finnish fluently, all have different ones... < 1186406472 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... that doesn't help < 1186406498 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(err... i pronounce german right, i don't speak it fluently) < 1186406574 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i lack the part of the brain that stores gender for words) < 1186406635 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i speak...english < 1186406638 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about 3 sentences of lojban < 1186406649 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1186406723 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ty This consonant cluster may be pronounced either as it is spelled, or as a voiceless unaspirated dorso-palatal plosive"... does that mean as in 'tire'? < 1186406756 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty can be pronounced in a lot of ways < 1186406758 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1186407227 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'unaspirated'... so you don't say the 'h' you usually have after 't', 'p', 'k' and such? < 1186407255 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess those are the only ones so s/and such/ < 1186407378 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god... why can't all languages have a pronunciation system like finnish... < 1186407409 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess everything has to suck someway < 1186407474 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*some wya < 1186407475 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*way < 1186407690 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: how's the lojban pronunciation like? < 1186407750 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : good < 1186407758 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consonants are mostly as in english < 1186407776 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t/k/p are aspired? < 1186407781 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find that idiotic < 1186407785 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, whatever that is < 1186407793 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you say 'h' after them < 1186407795 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/book1.html read the intro < 1186407809 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prononuciation stuff isn't long < 1186407812 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for like stick < 1186407815 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you don't < 1186407986 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'stick' < 1186408022 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stick < 1186408025 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick < 1186408057 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... exactly < 1186408070 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stick stick stick < 1186408072 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stickstickstickstick < 1186408081 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stickystickstickstickstickstickystickstickstickstick < 1186408107 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make a language where absolute pitch defines meaning < 1186408163 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... actually i can make it relative pitch and still make it possible only for singers to learn < 1186408168 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stickystickstickstickstickstickystickstickstickstick < 1186408180 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sticky... i don < 1186408181 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sapgnoirejgojgj < 1186408201 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sticky... i say 'h' after the 'k' as well... don't know if that's right < 1186408233 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's correct < 1186408233 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sticky stick stick stick sticky stick stick < 1186408249 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll read lojban once i finish ilaksh, ilaksh looks more tempting < 1186408256 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban is used by real people < 1186408272 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few are fluent to the degree of being able to think in lojban without mind-level to-english translation < 1186408287 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's really easy < 1186408304 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how simple a language can get while still being easy to learn and not overtly verbose < 1186408304 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and ilaksh isn't? < 1186408309 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1186408313 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows ilaksh < 1186408315 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i mean that literally < 1186408328 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No person is hitherto known to be able to speak Ithkuil; its creator, for one, does not: “I don't speak Ithkuil, never have, never will, never claimed to.”" < 1186408347 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ithkuil (Iţkuîl) is an outstandingly complicated human language constructed by the American linguist John Quijada" < 1186408350 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :outstandingly complicated < 1186408353 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have something to do with it < 1186408411 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... i think that's a matter of opinion < 1186408414 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(!) < 1186408434 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay okay, i'll try lojban... < 1186408446 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/book1.html do this book < 1186408448 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great < 1186408468 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to learn swedish and german before october though. < 1186408600 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban has finnish pronunciation, though simplified verrry much < 1186408622 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'i' and 'u' in the beginning of a diphtong are pronounced as consonants.. stupid < 1186408666 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they're not? < 1186408670 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1186408706 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ia like German Ja < 1186408709 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" < 1186408714 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 'j' < 1186408716 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean 'y' < 1186408726 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the vocal 'i'. < 1186408747 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1186408757 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you wouldn't see the difference if you don't actually have the difference in your language < 1186408760 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ia makes sense as german-ja, no? < 1186408764 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1186408766 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the natural combination of the sounds of i and a < 1186408771 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could just have the finnish system < 1186408776 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just make it 'ja' < 1186408778 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, lojban is meant to be logical - you can easily guess parts < 1186408794 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: j is not pronounced as in ja in lojban < 1186408797 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't do that < 1186408812 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ia' can be said 'ia', you don't have to use 'j' < 1186408816 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1186408822 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to consonantify the 'i' < 1186408834 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess i'll read it through before i start saying it sucks < 1186408850 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be fair, since the creator is most likely a better linguist than me :P < 1186408893 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1186408900 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like german Ja is just an example < 1186408912 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err yes < 1186408914 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e is like in get < 1186408918 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :english get < 1186408921 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes < 1186408923 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a is like in english father < 1186408930 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i is like in machine < 1186408932 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, vocals are the same as in finnish < 1186408935 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ia -> ja < 1186408951 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a is fAther and i machIne, then the most comfortable way to pronounce ia is like the german Ja < 1186408951 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for 'u' & 'i' -> consonant < 1186408958 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1186408958 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not mean it is defined as german "Ja" < 1186408962 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just means it's an example :) < 1186408991 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's prolly actually 'ia', but people most likely can't say it < 1186409000 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1186409002 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i should've thought of that < 1186409012 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except convention means that basically /everybody/ says it like ja < 1186409030 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for the sake of a beginner's introduction, and most other purposes, it's defacto defined as that < 1186409038 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so; yeah < 1186409048 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're a programmer you'll like lojban < 1186409054 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :selbri are analogous to functions with arguments < 1186409256 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban isn't short :< < 1186409316 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if no one can speak ilaksh/ithkuil even if they can predecide what they are going to say, how can there be a pronunciation example on wikipedia? < 1186409321 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that oumpe�� thing < 1186409332 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounded goddamn sexy < 1186409345 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: because many people will have collaborated < 1186409349 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to produce the right sound < 1186409352 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lojban is short! < 1186409353 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's simple! < 1186409363 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lfb book just elaborates for the sake of newbies < 1186409369 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone can create those sounds with a bit of training < 1186409377 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1186409387 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people will have had to work out how to pronounce everything first < 1186409392 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would have taken an hour, or something < 1186409395 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, who cares about pronunciation, i never talk to anyone < 1186409402 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i do, but not that much < 1186409412 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well nobody uses ithkuil < 1186409418 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even outside of pronounciation < 1186409423 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however lojban is quite widely know < 1186409423 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1186409440 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much does lojban shorten sentences? < 1186409496 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban sentences are short < 1186409507 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exemplify! < 1186409509 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, i'll fetch an example of lojban text < 1186409512 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1186409542 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://home.nvg.org/~arj/dantimanti/ some random person's blog in lojban! :p < 1186409548 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.i is the start of a sentence < 1186409569 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://laxmahispajispaji.blogspot.com/ some other blog linked on the lojban site! < 1186409583 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://perpetuum-immobile.de/komo.png a comic in lojban! < 1186409597 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1710885982433758647 a random animated short ... thing in lojban! < 1186409599 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that enough? :p < 1186409625 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban is longer than english < 1186409634 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1186409659 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell that to #lojban < 1186409676 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, really - do :) < 1186409685 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1186409687 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall < 1186410343 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is longer than english < 1186411233 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1186411246 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: huh? < 1186411283 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt that < 1186411353 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IME it is < 1186411393 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ithkuil beat it in the one example i've seen < 1186411394 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1186411589 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1186411619 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just know finnish, swedish, german and english, and english wins among those < 1186411637 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's my experience too, gotta admit < 1186413556 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a chunk of Spanish. < 1186413604 0 :wellons!n=user@eru.cse.psu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1186413870 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know random bits of spanish, but i don't know how it's pronounced correctly in every case < 1186413975 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I pretty much know Spanish pronunciation. < 1186414011 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know just how "x" works, though, and apparently there are things like n being pronounced as m sometimes. < 1186414029 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know gue, gui, que, qui. < 1186414040 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard learning it completely if your teacher isn't native < 1186414066 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... i don't remember how 'g' works in that case < 1186414079 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it? < 1186414092 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G is pronounced the same in ga, gue, gui, go, gu. < 1186414121 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only difference between the pronunciations is the vowel following. < 1186414139 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just remember it's not pronounced at all in 'agua' < 1186414145 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not? < 1186414148 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1186414152 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be a'ua < 1186414157 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when pronounced < 1186414202 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not know why, the teacher just said it's so... only programmers should teach languages, dammit < 1186414224 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1186414237 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was at least pronounced a little. < 1186414247 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1186414254 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pronounced a little, yes. < 1186414818 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@wads-5-232-125.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1186414838 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy, everyone < 1186414854 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ello. < 1186414903 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, ihope < 1186416180 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1186416196 0 :wellons!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: howdy < 1186416215 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, wellons < 1186418574 0 :jix_!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-049-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1186418962 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want quantum computers to be able to run "normal" programs efficiently. < 1186418996 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-95-23.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1186419003 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they good at things with quantifiers? < 1186419049 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(E.g. "there does not exist X such that 1 < X < Y and Z mod X = 0") < 1186419209 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Factoring an integer of length n is solving that problem O(n) times, I believe.) < 1186419780 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum computers are good at integer factorization, iirc < 1186419792 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: < 1186419793 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: hi < 1186419799 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1186420592 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1186420604 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just did lucid dreaming. < 1186420620 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will need practice to improve. < 1186420693 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1186420728 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notably, I was kinda-paralysed. < 1186421124 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucid dreaming is fun < 1186421132 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really need to start practicing and stuff < 1186421139 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but occasionally i randomly get lucid < 1186421157 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1186421162 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have full movement and can fly and pick up cars and all that, but i can't control the enviroment < 1186421169 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't create pink elephants < 1186421172 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or give a house legs < 1186421191 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often find it hard to move around even when lucid dreaming < 1186421192 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The environment is different from the cars? < 1186421200 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: i can touch the cars; and pick them up < 1186421207 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a movement i'm familiar with < 1186421214 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know any kind of movement to give houses legs < 1186421224 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remove a random person's legs and put them on the house! < 1186421229 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: one can usually just do stuff that could happen in real lige < 1186421231 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*life < 1186421231 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i remove a random person's legs? < 1186421237 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: not true < 1186421237 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By pulling! < 1186421246 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1186421247 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: anyway, i'd have to find a person first < 1186421248 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see? < 1186421257 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: how come? < 1186421261 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fly < 1186421266 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i can do that too, often < 1186421272 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: you can do literally anything, with a little bit of practice < 1186421280 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just your mind < 1186421284 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1186421287 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remove a finger from yourself and plant it in the ground! < 1186421295 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once a person grows, take their finger and legs. < 1186421299 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1186421309 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant usually when people lucid dream, they can just do what they could in real life, except they might be a bit superhuman < 1186421310 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'd ring up International Stork Postage < 1186421314 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi, can i have a baby please" < 1186421316 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah! < 1186421321 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly, a few days ago I was dreaming and I was changin stuff by concentrating (like that kid out of the Twilight Zone), but I didn't realise I was dreaming. < 1186421345 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once had a dream which consisted of me performing reality checks < 1186421350 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1186421351 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that was actually the topic of the dream < 1186421354 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't decide to RC or anything < 1186421358 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's what the dream was about < 1186421361 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"RC"? < 1186421366 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reality check < 1186421377 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after i'd done about 5, i thought "wait a minute.. they all failed" and promptly became lucid < 1186421382 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they tell you you were dreaming? < 1186421390 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but i didn't become lucid until after it all < 1186421391 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cool < 1186421402 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, dream :p < 1186421405 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need better terminology than "say you were dreaming" and "say you were not necessarily dreaming". < 1186421419 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about "test reality" and "test dream"? < 1186421422 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple: you can't read in dreams < 1186421424 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My trick is a looping30-minute counter all the time I am awake. < 1186421434 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read some text, look away, look back < 1186421437 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll have changed < 1186421437 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I did 500 RCs in my dream last night, but they all tested reality." < 1186421443 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't happen < 1186421446 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least one always works < 1186421451 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, holding your nose and breathing < 1186421458 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and closing one eye and looking for your nose < 1186421465 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, why holding your nose? < 1186421476 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that if it's real life, you can't breathe. < 1186421478 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in dreams you can breathe while holding your nose. < 1186421485 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: unless you are actually seeing the real world in your dream < 1186421493 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1186421495 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it < 1186421500 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just seal off your nose, I mean? < 1186421501 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because when you do that action of holding the nose < 1186421502 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't happen in real life < 1186421508 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus. < 1186421518 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can't see your nose out the corner of your eye with one eye shut in a dream < 1186421527 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1186421530 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually, for me, it's the hands. < 1186421534 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong number of fingers. < 1186421536 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hands never work for me < 1186421537 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1186421549 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clocks+text < 1186421551 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :failproof < 1186421552 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1186421555 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes until later
< 1186421560 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :waitamo, can people here actually seal off their nose and continue breathing through their mouth? < 1186421573 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Through the mouth, yes. < 1186421590 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you have a muscle that just blocks off your nose? < 1186421596 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think you're supposed to (temporarily, of course) put yourself in a position where it's impossible to breathe. < 1186421602 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC? < 1186421608 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SimonRC) waitamo, can people here actually seal off their nose and continue breathing through their mouth? < 1186421612 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: yes < 1186421615 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: hm? < 1186421615 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... you can't? < 1186421622 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can < 1186421623 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that? I can certainly breathe through my mouth without pinching my nose or anything. < 1186421630 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought other people couldn't < 1186421635 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :P < 1186421642 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm fairly sure everyone can < 1186421645 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about clearing your ears without yawning? < 1186421653 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they go click < 1186421670 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or then they don't speak english < 1186421679 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can do taht < 1186421680 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can click them without any breathing. < 1186421680 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that < 1186421680 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1186421685 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i do that quite a lot < 1186421700 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your ears don't speak english? < 1186421701 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much my ears hurt in the movies nowadays < 1186421703 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems rather a useless thing, though. < 1186421705 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1186421749 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i don't know if english would require that skill, but i still think everyone can do that < 1186421778 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If English would require what skill? < 1186421796 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SimonRC) waitamo, can people here actually seal off their nose and continue breathing through their mouth? < 1186421825 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, point < 1186421826 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1186421830 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1186421843 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a real skill, is breathing through your ears. < 1186421847 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically possible < 1186421886 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i often fall asleep reading, the pages just start having a random content, but pages will stay the same even if i close my eyes for a moment < 1186421909 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually when i fall asleep reading a book, i just have a dream where i'm reading it) < 1186421925 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not good if you're reading like a dictionary < 1186421937 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one time i'd actually memorized english words that did not exist < 1186421942 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not many, but a few < 1186421943 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1186421947 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you remember any? < 1186421991 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was about 3 years ago... but i think 'cam' had a third meaning that was something like 'a green human' < 1186422002 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1186422008 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm fairly sure it had a third meaning, that made no sense < 1186422012 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure if that was it < 1186422034 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always remember crystal clear, but often very very wrong. < 1186422184 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noun: rote. 1. A line in the dirt. < 1186422204 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" theoretically possible" <--- no, your eardrum seperates your inner and outer ears < 1186422289 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noun: jerry. 1. A motor vehicle incapable of going very fast. < 1186422306 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. A very slow person. < 1186422314 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(slang) < 1186422364 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1186422444 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making up words. < 1186422494 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: yes, but you can pass air through it. < 1186422498 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fast < 1186422500 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can < 1186422504 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1186422520 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend demonstrated this to me once by blowing smoke through it < 1186422577 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever tried to blow your nose when it was really stuffed up and felt the air coming out of your ear? Same idea. < 1186422578 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can just equalize your ear pressure... that is basically just passing air through it < 1186422590 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what GregorR said < 1186422628 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've gotten into the habit of covering my ears while I blow my nose :P < 1186422665 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: do you have three hands? < 1186422690 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, I sentence you to coming up with a word longer than "broughammed". < 1186422693 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: It's a bit of a stunt :) < 1186422720 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as antidisestablishmentarianism or pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis? < 1186422726 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup! < 1186422731 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: I equalise my ear pressure by opening the tube that passes t connects my inner ear to my nose, I think. < 1186422769 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, yeah, not the same thing < 1186422787 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you *can* pass smoke through it, i've seen tons of ppl do that. < 1186422805 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the eardrum was, like, impermiable < 1186422814 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i once tried it myself, though that just gave me a massive hearache :P < 1186422825 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, i don't smoke, i'm a good boy) < 1186422873 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may need to have it been popped... that's sometimes done when it's been infected or something < 1186422882 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :methinks < 1186422902 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :akes sense < 1186422908 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the friend who showed that to me actually has had his eardrums popped... < 1186422926 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1186422942 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... he was little and had 5 ear infections < 1186422947 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1186422948 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1186422960 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IIS gaining on Apache" < 1186422963 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it went poppidy poppidy at the hospital < 1186422970 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits for the next IIS hole to fix that
< 1186423009 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines the situation with the other Apache""s.
< 1186423032 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody lag < 1186426097 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1186426138 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sack < 1186426177 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the longest time i couldn't spell missisippi < 1186426180 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i did that right < 1186426357 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1186426414 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mississippi < 1186426797 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mrs. Sippy < 1186429232 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Necessary" < 1186429247 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I remember that the 'c's and 's's form "CSS" :-) < 1186429496 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand how anyone would not remember stuff like that automatically < 1186429515 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that i don't make mistakes, i just don't understand my own suckiness then.) < 1186429534 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'nessicary' < 1186430596 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1186430612 0 :jix__!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-037-187.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1186430703 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1186432258 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1186433173 0 :Sukoshi`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: When you get the time, can you make that guide about game programming for experienced programmers? < 1186433192 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1186433207 0 :Sukoshi`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running short on time, so I won't really be able to reply, but thanks. < 1186433210 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I have a bit of free time- I'll do some work on it < 1186433215 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya, then < 1186433221 0 :Sukoshi`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired of game guides that assume I've never programmed, so :) < 1186433224 0 :Sukoshi`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'luck! < 1186433481 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A game is just a database with a pretty front-end." :-) < 1186433779 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's a database with a pretty front-end that lacks arbitrary features. < 1186434455 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434455 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434455 0 :Sukoshi`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434455 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434456 0 :meatmanek!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434520 0 :helios24!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434520 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434520 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434520 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :Haikz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :wellons!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :Blejdfist!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :trepliev!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434521 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1186434645 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1186434645 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1186434673 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1186435722 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1186436224 0 :oklofok!i=oko@194.251.101.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1186437369 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1186439136 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.90.126 JOIN :#esoteric < 1186440326 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1186440907 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1186441073 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1186442501 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1186444133 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION self-enbedinates.
< 1186444369 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM autoembeds < 1186444509 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo '' > index.html < 1186444768 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is embed like image except... different? < 1186444775 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe more general? < 1186444799 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proprietary, says Wikipedia...