< 1188345607 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like 128-255 would be difficult for some languages to reach.. < 1188345620 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they won't need to do it often < 1188345628 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make things odd andeven if you want instead < 1188345633 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you need better compilers for those languages :-P < 1188345673 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd and even is a trivial bit-rearrangement in my idea < 1188345683 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* of my idea < 1188345800 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but..but..but.. < 1188345879 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't particularly like the idea of top-level commands
< 1188345882 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost everything you would want is within reach of 30 characters of BF. < 1188345890 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you don't need many < 1188345895 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just the meta stuff < 1188345914 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But under my system, the meta stuff is all in domain 0 < 1188345938 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, where would custom domains go? < 1188345981 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you reserve some of your domains for custom domains < 1188345994 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they go *under* them < 1188346016 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since my scheme is recursive < 1188346175 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... maybe instead of a numbering for subdomains, the domain designer can designate what would have been a function as a tree < 1188346209 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that the specs for, e.g. domain 2 would state that 0x02 under domain2 leads to more functions.. < 1188346215 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (self) (lambda (f) (f (lambda args (apply ((self self) f) args)))))) < 1188346235 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: maybe < 1188346252 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a bit messy to decode... < 1188346265 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, maybe not < 1188346979 0 :bsmntbombdood!i=gavin@abacus.kwzs.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1188347450 0 :xor____!n=gavin@71-208-212-117.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188347476 0 :xor____!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1188347493 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188347499 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1188347631 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would having 0x00 0x00 0x00 be print NUL really be that bad? < 1188347650 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1188347658 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you didn;t doubt you would not haveasked < 1188347851 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hadn't asked you would not have doubted < 1188347861 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and causality be damned < 1188348213 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opinions: Is it ok to have Print NUL be 0x00 0x00 0x00? < 1188348250 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, as long as you don't intend on doing it a lot. < 1188348279 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has an idea....
< 1188348289 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is brilliant! < 1188348311 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you make 0x00 be the domain containing character printing functions... < 1188348334 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to print out character foo safely, the 0,0,foo is guaranteed to work < 1188348357 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid breaking cat and the likes < 1188348368 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1188348373 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was going to write some BF code to always safely print a character
< 1188348383 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to allow you to make and unbreakable cat and the likes < 1188348392 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that works too... < 1188348400 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Simon's idea, though. < 1188348634 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188349151 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ehird` < 1188349154 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1188349208 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, 0,0,0 as print NUL, 0,0,0,N as safe-print N? < 1188349212 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1188349217 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, 0,0,0 as print NUL, 0,0,1,N as safe-print N? < 1188349226 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you STILL working on that thing < 1188349229 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1188349278 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe the safe-print will be in another domain < 1188349290 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planning a domain for things like printing as decimal.. < 1188349330 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes SimonRC and pikhq
< 1188349350 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1188349366 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Domain 0 for various output functions. < 1188349390 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1188349431 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about domain 2 for output functions < 1188349436 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :domain0 should be system < 1188349502 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1188350735 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.226.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188350763 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodnight... < 1188350778 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight Tritonio < 1188353046 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to bed
< 1188353713 0 :RifR!i=blackrag@69.92.54.100 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188354935 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi RifR < 1188355052 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1188355057 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How ya doing < 1188355069 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good, working on PSOX < 1188355070 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You? < 1188355081 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working on my forums < 1188355082 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bored < 1188355088 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hot as hell < 1188355329 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading the "Joke Language" list < 1188355331 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is awesome < 1188355523 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, we need more people whose names consist of at least one capital letter, then at least one small letter, then at least one capital letter. < 1188355545 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I really ought to say as "more people whose names match /[A-Z]+[a-z]+[A-Z]+/". < 1188355565 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see GregorR, RifR, SimonRC. < 1188355570 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1188355576 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like those. :-) < 1188355605 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My handle is usually RifRaf, and I happened to notice someone else here goes by the same handle... which I have never seen since the early 90s when some warez courier was using it < 1188355644 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Occasionally I'll find a website where "ihope" is taken. < 1188355649 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all big ones, though. < 1188355815 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_ xor ihope < 1188355852 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :UtF03nmaDnWhnPm9 < 1188355901 0 :UtF03nmaDnWhnPm9!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my nick includes 96 random bits! < 1188355940 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's clearly just an obfuscation of "you wanna dun wit me". < 1188355950 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What that means is beyond me. < 1188356110 0 :UtF03nmaDnWhnPm9!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :KhuUAwA7726av40w < 1188356117 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1188356123 0 :KhuUAwA7726av40w!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm transmitting secret messages to my field agents! < 1188356148 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should just use Fish ;) < 1188356233 0 :KhuUAwA7726av40w!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1188356240 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have their 192 bit key now < 1188356288 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fish? < 1188356305 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a IRC encryption tool < 1188356332 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He should just encode stuff in the lengths of his sentences. < 1188356344 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even number of letters = 0, odd number = 1. < 1188356409 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be less obvious < 1188356449 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you want to be obvious. < 1188356453 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1188356463 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are these "field agents?" < 1188356464 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, WHY don't you just use PLAINTEXT? < 1188356492 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant that would be less obvious in a good way < 1188356625 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good idea actually < 1188356693 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to pay attention to my next few messages < 1188356740 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually...no, i'm to lazy < 1188356742 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1188356750 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1188356766 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has yet to find someone with the nickname of pikhq. . .
< 1188356774 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll point you at this video, then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTVraVgzC9U < 1188356788 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's for being lazy, you big lazy-head! < 1188356788 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I propose that we use rot26 < 1188356809 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose that we call that cipher by its canonical name, rot0. < 1188356831 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bach? < 1188356833 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a nerd < 1188356835 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1188356857 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Listen to smalin's version. It's pretty good. < 1188356881 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why are the keys on that organ moving by themselves? < 1188356889 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're supposed to, I guess. < 1188356904 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...aren't they? < 1188356955 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: No, no, no. . . < 1188356963 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR? What a nerd. < 1188356998 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtube.com/watch?v=uTCQSk2l8bc < 1188357043 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the revolution will not make your teeth whiter < 1188357062 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff, a video that's not Toccata and Fugue in D minor. < 1188357245 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pft, the revolution will kill the TV. < 1188357249 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blech < 1188357264 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to write a letter to a pencil company telling them how great their pencils are < 1188357266 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We, the GNU People, are the revolution. < 1188357273 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: WTF?!? < 1188357287 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odd thing to have to do. < 1188357288 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate english class < 1188357298 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1188357303 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odd thing to have to do for English class. < 1188357311 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to write the spec for the new version of PSOX
< 1188357315 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate your Englilsh teacher already. < 1188357321 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that have to do with symbolism and messages? < 1188357370 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: how would it be if you buried heavy doses of sarcasm about how anachronistic pencils are? < 1188357390 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a better idea. < 1188357396 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extremely subtle doses of sarcasm. < 1188357421 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pencils are anachronistic? < 1188357431 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write to them asking how they feel about destroying forests in the name of anachronism and nostalgia. < 1188357446 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mechanical pencil < 1188357454 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with destroying forests? < 1188357503 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION takes a picture of his hippy self
< 1188357512 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1188357529 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see it < 1188357550 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was kinda kidding; don't exactly have a digital camera handy. < 1188357631 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1188357702 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://abacus.kwzs.be/~bsmntbombdood/foo.jpg < 1188357706 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me me meee! < 1188357739 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need a beard & long hair. < 1188357767 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1188357772 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :long hair not so much though < 1188357922 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes the new http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txt
< 1188357981 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes pikhq and SimonRC
< 1188357989 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what do you do if you want to output lots of NUL? < 1188358007 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do lots of 0x00 0x00 0x00.. < 1188358022 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a third as efficient as it could be. < 1188358026 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As if.) < 1188358038 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, depend. < 1188358041 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...s. < 1188358068 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is "sane API", not "world's most efficient one". < 1188358079 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NUL as an escape, to me, is sane. < 1188358131 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allowing the escape to be set isn't that hard, is it> < 1188358224 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..I guess not.. < 1188358245 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than needing to change the documentation a bit, ofc < 1188358259 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is there real demand for it? < 1188358341 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :-P < 1188358498 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol http://mudhead.uottawa.ca/~pete/beard.html < 1188358627 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is quite possible that I had only thought I felt warmer. I suggest that a better test would be to shave half a person's beard off, but not tell them which half." http://mudhead.uottawa.ca/~pete/beard.html < 1188358632 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, I'm sure that'll work wonders. < 1188358659 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he ruined his nice beard < 1188358670 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn you beat me to it < 1188358844 0 :importantshock_!n=p_trick@161.253.18.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188358847 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure i believe that 6 weeks after picture... < 1188359033 0 :importantshock_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1188359740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main()<% printf((char<::>)<%'C',' ','i','s',' ','i','n','s','a','n','e','??/n',0%>);%> < 1188359840 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trigraphs? < 1188359843 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1188359846 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And digraphs. < 1188359865 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combined with using an array literal format for a C string. < 1188360414 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION works on the specs for Domain 0x02
< 1188360535 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly realizes that his longnum format has no negative number support
< 1188360598 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural numbers ftw < 1188360625 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION adds in a quick&cheap way to support negative numbers
< 1188360635 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The indicator 0x02 can only be used as the first indicator, and means that a data byte follows, and the number is negative." < 1188360996 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txthttp://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txt updated < 1188360998 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txt < 1188361005 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1188361094 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txt updated! http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox-io-utils.txt added! < 1188361097 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes pikhq
< 1188361273 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz for puts newlines cuz bad interps kthx < 1188361699 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done < 1188361723 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was helpful, but not what I meant at all : < 1188361729 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1188361766 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..oh < 1188361772 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1188361798 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't you just use 10 to print a newline? < 1188361818 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, all requests and responses should end with an ignored newline. < 1188361842 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since most interpreters based on C will find they have buffered stdin/stdout. < 1188361850 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buffered to lines that is < 1188361852 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets t3h uberbored, looks through #esoteric logs
< 1188361875 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION takes pikhq's uberbored and turns it into ... AN UBERBOARD
< 1188361910 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not an uberbeard? < 1188361939 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :buffered stdout < 1188361940 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1188361990 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: int main() { int i; printf("Oh noes!"); for (i = 0; i <= 100000000; i++) {} printf("\n"); return 0; } < 1188362001 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It won't print that "Oh noes!" until after the wait. < 1188362008 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Because it's buffered on newlines. < 1188362134 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't know how to fix that
< 1188362150 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simple: Require ignored newlines on all your commands. < 1188362157 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And responses) < 1188362183 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION searches for his first entrance to #esoteric
< 1188362187 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy to fix it in the interpreter, but probably more interpreters for esoteric languages are broken than not. < 1188362276 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.07.18 Gots it. (well, fine. First words, not first entrance.) < 1188362322 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there interpreters that require Windows newlines? < 1188362335 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what is the first thing in the logs
< 1188362391 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: IIRC, every C on Windows I've heard of will flush on \n anyway. < 1188362413 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Especially since most treat that as a UNIX newline in output anyway :) < 1188362449 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, the channel was... pretty quiet back then :) < 1188362481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still is on some days. < 1188362514 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:57:05 --- log: started esoteric/03.01.17 < 1188362514 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:57:05 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #esoteric < 1188362514 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:57:05 --- topic: 'Om this channel is not dead hum! Om this channel is not dead hum! Om this channel is not dead hum!' < 1188362521 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe < 1188362778 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SamB and exarkun used to come here... < 1188362827 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SamB on #haskell? < 1188362859 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1188362870 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except he was on #python backt hen < 1188362895 0 :RifR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1188363234 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more fish plox < 1188363307 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night all < 1188363317 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1188363579 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188363614 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188363729 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188363772 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242436641.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1188364341 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188364357 0 :sorear!n=stefan@ip68-6-133-142.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188365104 0 :naringas!n=nar@baltasar.res.wpi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188365769 0 :naringas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1188365904 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1188366262 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188366545 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allow me to introduce. . . PEBBLE. http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.09.03 :p < 1188366802 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not put the baby < 1188367027 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1188367304 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@222-154-153-179.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1188369535 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188369554 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188369641 0 :Arrogant!i=Arrogatn@179.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188371050 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Man who stand in frond of car is tired. Man who stand behind car is exhausted." < 1188373580 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1188374134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188374399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1188374400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1188374786 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188375768 0 :sorear!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"zzz" < 1188379144 0 :kwertii!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1188379421 0 :Naranek!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1188382240 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1188382307 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.226.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188388718 0 :jix_!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-177-006.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1188392195 0 :Figs!n=Figs@ip72-220-174-159.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188392199 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yowza < 1188392212 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck interpreters are a lot simpler than I was making them < 1188392213 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1188392245 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like an idiot < 1188392276 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, at 44 lines, I've made it a bit bloated < 1188392281 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do better < 1188392882 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the fastest way to left-shift by 9999 in brainfuck? < 1188392980 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.90.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188392990 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi RedDak < 1188392997 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea how to leftshift by 9999 in brainfuck? < 1188393006 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like < * 9999) < 1188393019 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without actually typing that o.o < 1188393657 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have "walking" facilities available (and you should) you can use those. < 1188393668 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :walking? < 1188393705 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very plain brainfuck < 1188393709 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I wrote it myself < 1188393721 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You put gaps in-between your data, then use these to keep track of where you are on the tape < 1188393729 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1188393729 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted to exploit something peculiar to my implimentation so I could write a quine :P < 1188393823 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the input to the program is 9999 bytes away from the actual memory :P < 1188393834 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I could (in theory) have self-rewriting brainfuck < 1188393861 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for fun < 1188393875 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be easier I guess if I'd put it the other way around < 1188393930 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about that though < 1188393983 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :char input[9999*(2+sizeof(char*))],*index_=input,*bfptr=index_+9999, < 1188393983 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : **stack=(char**)(input+2*9999); <- is this portable? < 1188394007 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think it should be < 1188394145 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :char input[9999*(2+sizeof(char*))],*bfptr=index+9999,**stack=&(input+2*9999); < 1188394173 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1188394175 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1188394182 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reinterpreting the memory < 1188394194 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :char input[9999*(2+sizeof(char*))],*bfptr=&index[9999],**stack=&&input[2*9999]; < 1188394675 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1188394693 0 :jix__!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-191-205.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1188395700 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188395993 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes shopping
< 1188399421 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1188399604 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188399824 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1188400712 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1188400725 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wrote a brainfuck program that modified itself :P < 1188400756 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188400761 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not portable, ohhh so not portable :D < 1188400765 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird` < 1188400783 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wrote a bf program that modifies itself because of the way my buffers line up :P < 1188400807 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not very pretty though :'( < 1188400894 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: hi < 1188400938 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go to bed < 1188400939 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 7 am < 1188400940 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1188401126 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1188401454 0 :ehird`_!n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188401497 0 :ehird`_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1188402381 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188402398 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188403220 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-5-179.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1188403303 0 :ehird`_!n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188403683 0 :ehird`_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1188403885 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188404492 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1188404713 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1188404856 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1188404959 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.226.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188405781 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1188405894 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188406438 0 :oklopol!i=oko@194.251.101.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188406937 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1188412556 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188412579 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188412786 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgiooubg? < 1188412833 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1188412847 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if my fingers are on the wrong keys and i don't know it, i type wrong < 1188412864 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if i purposely put my fingers on the wrong keys, they correct themselves < 1188412911 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ometresting < 1188412912 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1188412918 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was pretty cool < 1188412939 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omyrtrsting < 1188412969 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they move on the right keys after a few presses even if i'm not looking at the screen < 1188413035 0 :ehird`_!n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188413216 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gelklo wrodl < 1188413218 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1188413227 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AGekkoiwm owrld# < 1188413234 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world < 1188413236 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1188413254 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't make myself type on the wrong keys < 1188413263 0 :ehird`_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1188413485 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gkekim wirikd# < 1188413626 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh damn < 1188413635 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1188413649 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just listened to the miss south carolina girl < 1188413713 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :our education maps need to help US americans with south africa and the iraq?!?!?!! < 1188413833 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww < 1188413926 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everyone has maps < 1188414081 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha my gf is like that < 1188414114 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can stand to be around someone like that? < 1188414124 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she must be reeaaaaaally good in bed < 1188414149 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: oh my god i puked up retardsauce < 1188414151 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1188414157 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that video is why < 1188414162 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT < 1188414169 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the idiocy in the world building up... and then it just had to come out. < 1188414206 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: she's not really like that, but that would be a fun gf < 1188414220 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would? < 1188414221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could play with an idiot all day long < 1188414224 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1188414236 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :penis goes where? < 1188414248 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would laugh a lot though, so i'm pretty sure she couldn't stand me. < 1188414765 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/2003/Everything-Is-Illegal1esp03.htm < 1188414799 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDcHdIvKQBU&NR=1 <<< i was thinking "comma" :) < 1188414815 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"introduce" oh < 1188414851 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i've developed some sort of dyslexia < 1188414884 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how late can you get that? < 1188414896 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can you catch it from a friend? < 1188415001 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's wouldn't exactly be "dyslexia", "stupedia"? < 1188415074 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188415156 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/that's/that < 1188415733 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a colon isn't commonly used to introduce a list of items < 1188416026 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that either, but more often than a comma :) < 1188416124 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"star wars is based on a true story. true or false" "true." < 1188416224 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"where was the berlin wall?" "ummmm...israel?" < 1188416229 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE&mode=related&search= < 1188416449 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make a video like that anywhere though < 1188416534 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that'd be fun < 1188416544 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might make a finnish one someday < 1188416551 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty stupid ppl here too < 1188416596 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might actually believe a vid like that was true if i had made it myself < 1188416689 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: ..."true"?! < 1188416697 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: is it a faked video or something i haven't watched it < 1188416737 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AbXR4fbhOQ&NR=1 <<< i wouldn't have known what a "surge protector" is < 1188416752 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would've gotten that right of course, still :P < 1188416760 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected surges of water < 1188416773 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: it looks real < 1188416867 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so great watching ppl be stupid, i don't understand how everyone finds it so disgusting < 1188416877 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that was a terrible question < 1188416890 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that surge thing? < 1188416896 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what is... the united kingdom" < 1188416915 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1188416941 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... why? < 1188417000 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"surge protector" could be anything < 1188417020 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COFFEE IS A DRINK < 1188417037 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a surge protector protects from surges, that's all you can say without more information < 1188417074 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, natural language is often like that, but do many people buy anything but ones for electric surges? < 1188417089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_mkwB9ayK4 <<< i don't know what currency ireland uses :\ < 1188417100 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could make a vid like that from myself < 1188417475 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess that was enough for one day < 1188417636 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an irc room/where messages are haiku/yes, interesting < 1188417650 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haiku-irc! < 1188417688 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1188417696 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1188417696 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1188417734 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot say anything on that channel. < 1188417747 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1188417754 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know haiku < 1188417760 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/7/5 syllables < 1188417817 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :syllables, okay/in haiku, five and then/seven, indeed < 1188417875 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haiku sounds so finnish it stands out from your texts as a big wtf < 1188417909 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have a hard time interpreting a sentence with multiple languages in it < 1188419382 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188419830 0 :kwertii!n=kwertii@c-24-5-40-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188421894 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: What's read(SELECT * FROM statements WHERE languages > 1).difficulty? < 1188422035 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sql is stupid < 1188422144 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :embedding a language, as a string, into another language? wtf? < 1188422201 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: lightweight sql-eliminators ftw < 1188422253 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka database abstraction layers < 1188422271 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flat files ftw < 1188422277 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flat files ftl < 1188422280 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scalability ftw < 1188422307 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: that's a personal weirdity of mine < 1188422321 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :select("statements", where=[x|x.languages > 1]) < 1188422324 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where [] is lambda < 1188422325 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, < 1188422362 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :select("statements", where=cond("languages > 1")) < 1188422364 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or similar < 1188422455 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.90.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188422695 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How nice of Google to put all their tech talks online. < 1188422740 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh: "three-napkins protocol" < 1188422740 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when will you know if you've got the job? < 1188422770 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ah, yeah < 1188422782 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they said to try re-applying in 6monthd < 1188422790 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaah < 1188422797 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what will be different then? < 1188422805 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1188422808 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have other good-looking offers though < 1188422818 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one interview on Friday < 1188423000 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188423001 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at first i thought you're about to interview a bunch of hot candidates < 1188423014 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1188423119 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188423616 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's tech talk? < 1188423622 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that context < 1188423708 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Google Tech Talk < 1188423735 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188423735 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1188423752 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1188423756 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1188423758 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1188423762 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1188423766 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, that is so freaky < 1188423800 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: how old are you? < 1188423810 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188423813 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq and oerjan joined at the same second < 1188423821 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was scary < 1188423832 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo! < 1188423835 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm pretty sure it was planned < 1188423839 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1188423845 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan and pikhq: you're not fooling anyone < 1188423847 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION forgets which people are close IRL
< 1188423869 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think pikhq is on the same continent as me < 1188423911 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq is american, oerjan is norwegian < 1188423916 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC is... american too (?) < 1188423933 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun_ is corean? < 1188423937 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope british < 1188423940 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"209-248-125-179.falconbroadband.net" < 1188423944 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament is canadian? < 1188423951 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at my domain < 1188423953 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, pikhq is british? < 1188423956 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian-canadian < 1188423957 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you are < 1188423962 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1188423966 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm mexican! < 1188423968 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq = "209-248-125-179.falconbroadband.net" < 1188423970 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: i just guessed < 1188423972 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you i mean < 1188423981 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in .ac.uk
< 1188423983 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: too late to fool me with that < 1188423996 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you have fooled me a lot before < 1188424004 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :falconbroadband.net <<< doesn't really tell me the country :\ < 1188424012 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm mexican starting tomorrow < 1188424022 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a brief while :) < 1188424026 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you might get a hint by visiting their website, perhaps < 1188424047 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ni siquiera hablo ingles < 1188424073 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes... i could also read the whole esoteric logs or trick cia into hacking his home country for me < 1188424073 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nunca lo sabia < 1188424089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, who has the time to open a browser these days < 1188424090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me < 1188424100 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Falcon Broadband, Inc. was started in 2003 in Colorado Springs, CO. We are a locally owned and operated company." < 1188424107 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<--- blurb < 1188424131 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i think there may be a list of which ip's are in which country < 1188424142 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes < 1188424152 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few websites that do that < 1188424163 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the ietf provide lists on their website < 1188424194 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they list the middlemen they give address ranges to, and include a web address where you can ask the middle-men for the details < 1188424201 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was right about everyone except pikhq? < 1188424207 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1188424209 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASgoijregoijesg < 1188424216 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was right about everyone except SimonRC? < 1188424220 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188424228 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" SimonRC is... american too (?)" <--- yup, ish < 1188424229 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird` is also american? < 1188424235 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, yup, you got it wrong < 1188424245 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1188424253 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eres gringo < 1188424259 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what part of ".co.uk" did you not understand < 1188424271 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"21:49:14 -!- ehird` [n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #esoteric" < 1188424315 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand it, i don't read it though < 1188424423 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he only understands it when spoken aloud! < 1188424436 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't had a client that shows host @ join/quit, so haven't learned to look at that yet... < 1188424448 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoissing is like googling, who has the time? < 1188424463 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: precisely < 1188424511 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which client do you use? < 1188424516 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use mirc now < 1188424542 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1188424542 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament is too lazy to do /ctcp oklopol VERSION < 1188424566 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, i'm mexican < 1188424573 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: best client i've seen yet, you can point me towards a better one, if you know any < 1188424576 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for win/unix < 1188424582 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes. < 1188424589 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1188424593 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna be a mexican too :\ < 1188424600 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, midnight @ 4 minutes < 1188424605 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could be mexican tomorrow? < 1188424667 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm... okloXoY, please fill in those two to be mexican < 1188424707 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopotl? < 1188424709 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought oklomex first, but i just can't be non-oCCoCoC < 1188424715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :potl? < 1188424733 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bit slow < 1188424734 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mexican words sometimes contain tl < 1188424757 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :popocatepetl and such < 1188424784 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... i was thinking more like a 3-letter word CoC that is something stereotypically mexican :) < 1188424802 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure there's a lot of options... < 1188424821 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION really feels unqualified for that question
< 1188424902 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :okloMeX < 1188424904 0 :okloMeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1188424907 0 :okloMeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1188424923 0 :okloMeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why that X is capitalized, but i kinda like it < 1188424942 0 :okloMeX!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :okloMex < 1188424964 0 :okloMex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is the extent of my mexicanness for today < 1188425003 0 :okloMex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: better clients have you to mention? < 1188425035 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i use irssi < 1188425043 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it probably doesn't play with windows very well < 1188425059 0 :okloMex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does, and i also use unix < 1188425067 0 :okloMex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't like it at all < 1188425087 0 :okloMex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolly because i'm too lazy to learn all the commands < 1188425106 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want something point and click? < 1188425110 0 :okloMex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have a view where i don't have to remember which channels are behind which numbers? < 1188425111 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX? < 1188425117 0 :okloMex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but i want something look and see. < 1188425135 0 :okloMex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: also has "e", i need "o" for it to be better than this... < 1188425139 0 :okloMex!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :okloTeX < 1188425143 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: yes < 1188425149 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess variation is nice though < 1188425155 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: get the chanact.pl script < 1188425155 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: didn't know < 1188425176 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use irssi, but it could have done with a modern help system < 1188425178 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oklo as in the nuclear reactors? < 1188425182 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see why people put mirc down though, there's nothing wrong with it imo < 1188425207 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: too long a story < 1188425229 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try me < 1188425260 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after oklopol mentioned it, i believe he chose the name because of the keyboard layout < 1188425263 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oklopol is a conworld of me and a few friend's.... that was pretty long, ay? < 1188425276 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't, that was an accident actually < 1188425293 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate stuff where my hands aren't balanced < 1188425312 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so something liek lskdjf would'we been nicer actually < 1188425397 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conworlds fte < 1188425400 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ftw < 1188425414 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you on the ZBB? < 1188425434 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe conworlds.info (plug plug) < 1188425442 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the story of the actual word "oklopol" is a lot longer, but it's not very interesting < 1188425455 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm... i'm not really anywhere :< < 1188425463 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1188425463 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this conworld online? < 1188425476 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat, in finnish form. < 1188425514 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"okloglok"? < 1188425524 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual world in detail doesn't exist in written form really < 1188425534 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just some stories about it < 1188425538 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1188425553 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wherefrom got you the term "conworld"? < 1188425565 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from you, most likely :) < 1188425581 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :verrrry verrry long ago < 1188425594 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you first mentioned these... things < 1188425601 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones you're obsessed with < 1188425633 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the superclever dragon-like creatures whose name i think starts with a K < 1188425642 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kigdatsi < 1188425650 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1188425657 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is just showing off his memory abilities
< 1188425664 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1188425701 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a pretty amazing memory when it comes to stuff i actually memorize, i just don't do that automatically for pretty much anything < 1188425734 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"amazing", most people are amazed by 10 digits of pi :P < 1188425766 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION knows 15, though he memorized them
< 1188425770 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.1415926535898 erm < 1188425787 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.718281828459045 < 1188425795 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rounding seems wrong when talking about memorizing digits... < 1188425808 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1188425828 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even remember the *first* digits of e before i actually memorized 2.71 < 1188425831 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18,446,744,073,709,551,616 < 1188425831 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*digit < 1188425837 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1188425849 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188425852 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had no idea it started with "2" even though i'd used it about 163 times < 1188425877 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18,446,744,073,709,551,616 <<< ? < 1188425890 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^64 < 1188425894 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1188425912 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can remember that a round peg fits into a square hole better than the other way round up until approx dimension 5.16 < 1188425937 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been thinking of starting memorizing stuff as a hobby, i memorize pretty fast, i just never do it :| < 1188425937 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can remember skew's number: 10^10^10^34 < 1188425947 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like capitals, that's a one night job < 1188425954 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've just never done it < 1188425955 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the Elements Song < 1188425960 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: what happens after 5.16 < 1188425975 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :capitals are insufficiently geeky < 1188425986 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: it's the other way round < 1188426017 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: yeah. but why < 1188426023 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1188426031 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't care about geeky really, would just be nice to train the brain < 1188426048 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how helpful that is < 1188426048 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, it's *good* if it's geeky < 1188426057 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: are you like a new-age LaTeX replacement < 1188426066 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find obsession and reciting to be helpful < 1188426082 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: i can't visualize dimensions >3 ;/ < 1188426097 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cn;t either < 1188426126 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like memorizing just by reading, the visual peg system just makes it too easy... < 1188426135 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that? < 1188426146 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can visualize extra dimensions by tacking attributes on points in 3d < 1188426148 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie color < 1188426155 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one book i was reading... < 1188426159 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i can't "rotate" a visualized object < 1188426160 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can find the name < 1188426164 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :between the dimensions ;( < 1188426167 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about training the memory < 1188426172 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't rotate 4d either < 1188426234 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure you can learn to visualize 4d < 1188426239 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1188426262 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there much to training memory other than practice and clever techniques? < 1188426274 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1188426300 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the visual association technique, at least i could memorize 50 objects in order on second try < 1188426307 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it 30.. < 1188426315 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 is more impressive, let's go with that. < 1188426321 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(may have even been 20...) < 1188426325 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy to visualize 4d by looking at the 3d projection < 1188426346 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall a memorisation question in some quiz; I boosted my score by pairing up the objects to be memorised < 1188426347 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or morphing over time < 1188426355 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: that's the idea < 1188426400 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you get good at it, you can memorize a deck of cards in 10 minutes < 1188426415 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: better: memorising abcdefgh... by doing (a,b) (b,c) (c,d) (d,e) (... < 1188426420 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the book said was how fast an average guy does it with the technique < 1188426424 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: not 1 minute? < 1188426450 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some card-shuffling devices that are vulnerable to memorising the preceding order < 1188426455 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: won't that break if a letter is repeated? < 1188426462 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh... no, but i think 10 minutes is good for a stunt you learn in one night... < 1188426462 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: memorize a solitaire key! < 1188426466 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we are memorising a SET < 1188426484 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it doesn't, the human memory also has it's own tricks... < 1188426502 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. randomly dealing onto the top and bottom of 10 piles will create 20 runs < 1188426520 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are multiple occurrances, you remember them as exceptions, usually better than the rest < 1188426524 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the later ones are semi-predictable if ou konw the original orer of the cards and the cards already passed < 1188426526 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope the brain is superturing < 1188426528 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be cool < 1188426533 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"THIS THOUGHT PROCESS WILL ALWAYS HALT!" < 1188426543 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless there are many clashes, in which case just change your system a bit < 1188426543 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: it isn't supertring < 1188426552 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: fuck :( < 1188426558 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: WHY I WANT IT TO BE. < 1188426564 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the brain isn;t a proof system < 1188426625 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never read the book through or actually learned the techniques well... wish i did that some day... < 1188426650 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: and to think that my gut churned with envy when you started talking about memorisation < 1188426653 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How To Develop A Super-Power Memory By Harry Lorayne-Book.pdf < 1188426662 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1188426671 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Harry Lorayne-Book.pdf" is an unusual name < 1188426683 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1188426706 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do suffer form terrible envy sometimes. < 1188426710 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from < 1188426719 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too, luckily i'm usually the best in any group :) < 1188426722 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not here < 1188426726 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'll kill you all soon. < 1188426731 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1188426733 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now pizza -> < 1188426739 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain IS turing complete damnit < 1188426740 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i said so < 1188426806 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLZ PROVE THAT KTHX < 1188426842 0 :Figs!n=Figs@ip72-220-174-159.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188426848 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1188426858 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This thought process will always halt: BOIOIOIOOING < 1188426862 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching kyle xz actually was what made me interested in that book again < 1188426898 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1188427096 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: no, I bet I suffer from worst envy than you < 1188427111 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1188427113 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me < 1188427123 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes feel slightly sick from them < 1188427127 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just occasionally < 1188427137 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1188427152 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my envy is superturing < 1188427211 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often have an unbelievable feeling of failior, envy doesn't really get me down < 1188427241 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q: What is the different between a user and woman? / A: When a user says "yes" they mean "no". < 1188427251 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dispair at my on laziness < 1188427252 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i hallusinate a bit sometimes etc. < 1188427258 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1188427262 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1188427277 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: I can trivially prove that your brain is not TC. Every volume has a maximum data density. Your brain has a volume. Therefore, your brain has a maximum amount of data it can store. QED. < 1188427278 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fail so badly that you hallucinate?! < 1188427301 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get a strong feeling of self-hatred and i fall into trance of some sort < 1188427307 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get that for other things as well < 1188427315 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes when i'm programming intensely too < 1188427319 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i just love it < 1188427319 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't Do That < 1188427331 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they nice hallucinations? < 1188427344 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, writing a program, look up and can't really even see the room < 1188427351 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else is hazy < 1188427365 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really like man-walk-in-room kind < 1188427374 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: actaully the storage limit is proportinal to surface area, ISTR, for a spherical shape. < 1188427375 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just get hazy vision, and voices in my head < 1188427380 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic stuff < 1188427394 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1188427401 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get haxziness < 1188427404 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: nothing says it can't expand if necessary. < 1188427405 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lose track of time though < 1188427410 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm... it's a bit hard to explain < 1188427427 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like everything is moving a bit too fast < 1188427454 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even stationary objects seem to be moving < 1188427464 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have small gliders going around them < 1188427469 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glider as in ca's < 1188427481 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was going to say that :P ) < 1188427485 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't had that for a long time < 1188427487 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1188427496 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: are you sure you weren't just taking illegal substances? :p < 1188427503 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish i did, i hate being sane < 1188427509 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses people with superior hacking powers to himself.
< 1188427511 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-) < 1188427512 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1188427512 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: i've never gotten my hands on any < 1188427519 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses people with eyes.
< 1188427521 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-( < 1188427549 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: i always escape that feeling with "i'm just 18" < 1188427556 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't work for long, though < 1188427570 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 is actually too much, i thought i'd be a genius by now :P < 1188427592 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: er, you're blind? < 1188427596 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: You don't "become" a genius, genius is about intelligence, not knowledge. < 1188427599 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: smiley joke < 1188427601 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I have occasionally had a strange feeling when walking after a long computer session (esp. AoE2) where the world feels like a crystal-clear simulation. < 1188427604 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses people with brains
< 1188427607 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and noses < 1188427608 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: intelligence can be learned < 1188427609 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mouthes < 1188427610 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1188427615 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ pretty dull smiley < 1188427632 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: "I'll be a genius when I'm 72!" < 1188427645 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COLON MINUS OPENING-PARENTHESIS < 1188427653 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COLON MINUS LIVER < 1188427655 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(COBOL) < 1188427659 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: It's pretty well established that intelligence is just about constant. You can learn to get a higher IQ, but that's because any form of testing of intelligence is imperfect. < 1188427660 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe < 1188427666 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COLON OBJECT BULLSHIT OBJECT LANGUAGE < 1188427698 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are XML-parsing libraries for COBOL. < 1188427720 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably just bullshitting, but that's what I doooooooooooooo :) < 1188427731 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: That makes my brain hurt. < 1188427735 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i've heard that too < 1188427744 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they work via callbacks < 1188427751 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COBOL02 does objects. < 1188427760 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a WEBAPP FRAMEWORK for cobol < 1188427776 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 1) i don't entirely believe it and 2) you can differentiate between whether something is knowledge or just plain cleverness < 1188427783 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have said it before and I say it again: COBOL is unsurpassed in the field of defining punched-card layouts. < 1188427796 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: it's an artform < 1188427804 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like oerjan who seems to get everything, then when i'm at the point of bursting from admiring, he tells me that was from memory < 1188427814 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1188427817 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i has a colon! < 1188427818 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :; < 1188427829 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, my colon is semi :( < 1188427834 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1188427836 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ "hello ; you have done very well have a promotion" < 1188427842 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :; "oh wow! what is it to?" < 1188427845 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ "colon" < 1188427847 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: "YAY" < 1188427852 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1188427860 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/from memory/something he read somewhere < 1188427900 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, if a Haskell hacker got it into their heads to write a punched-card-layout-specifiying library, they would wipe the floor with the COBOL people. < 1188427911 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is interesting: < 1188427913 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3733345136856180693 < 1188427953 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloTeX: perhaps cleverness is just being able to quickly recall the necessary bits you need... < 1188427973 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and combine them < 1188427990 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you need to have understood the original bits. < 1188427993 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: exactly what i tried to say < 1188428025 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cleverness = intelligence / recall delay :) < 1188428027 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: yes, but those combining techniques can be learned as well < 1188428053 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paull Graham on intelligence: http://paulgraham.com/wisdom.html < 1188428058 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you need knowledge too < 1188428081 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Well, intelligence in any form is pretty well hindered without knowledge :) < 1188428152 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, 2 + 2 != 5. < 1188428164 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually -7. < 1188428173 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.4 + 2.4 = 4.8 < 1188428181 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :round all the numbers, 2 + 2 = 5 < 1188428222 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8| < 1188428226 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|8 < 1188428228 0 :okloTeX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: you blow my mind! < 1188428250 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: you and your modulus 11 arithmetic! < 1188428337 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was clever < 1188428453 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, 42 is actually nin. < 1188428455 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nine < 1188428808 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most of our educational traditions aim at wisdom." < 1188428809 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1188428829 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one said they had _good_ aim :D < 1188428829 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1188428841 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shows that his definition is wrong < 1188428866 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because traditional learning does focus on making the jack of all trades (wisdom, according to him) < 1188429263 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pinggg < 1188429280 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188429377 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spiong < 1188429543 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: isn't that what he said? < 1188429555 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1188429594 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand your last four lines, you seem to contradict yourself. < 1188429714 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says traditional education promotes wisdom. i say traditional education promotes the jack of all trades. i say jack of all trades is not wise. his definition is wrong < 1188429874 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with his definition < 1188429926 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you find wrong with it, and how would you change it? < 1188429927 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wise person knows what to do in moral matters, not academic ones < 1188429984 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that exactly what he addresses in the fourth paragraph? < 1188430048 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says the opposite in the fourth paragraph < 1188430131 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some say wisdom and intelligence apply to different types of problems—wisdom to human problems and intelligence to abstract ones." < 1188430145 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you said. < 1188430152 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he immediately explains why that isn't true. < 1188430260 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for example, the wisdom of the engineer who knows certain structures are less prone to failure than others." < 1188430265 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't taught in schools < 1188430285 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G(^G)G <-- I wonder how big this is < 1188430288 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(G = g_64) < 1188430352 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: do you see no difference between "education promotes wisdom" and "every single aspect of wisdom is taught in schools"? < 1188430366 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: hint: he says the first of those things, but not the second. < 1188430376 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1188430684 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to bed.