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19:41:29 bsmntbom1dood: that's what i was about to say 19:41:43 hmm 19:41:49 indeed 19:41:51 "calxist" returns someone who went into #osdev 2007 19:42:01 calxists returns you asking the same thing: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/07.07.13 19:42:09 heh 19:42:17 elaborate? :) 19:42:26 Too complicated to explain 19:42:28 but 19:42:36 oh come on 19:42:43 you can't bring it up and not tell us what it is 19:42:47 yeah 19:42:50 that's illegal 19:43:25 They do want it to be kept semi-queit 19:43:29 ah, waitamo... 19:43:45 oh for hecks sake 19:43:48 if you want it to be quiet 19:43:51 stfu and don't mention it 19:43:54 that's even worse 19:44:26 http://conworlds.info/cwbb/viewtopic.php?p=2067#2067 19:44:52 i was trying to remember who was the person/people here that were the founders 19:45:32 without reading a big (for forums) post, summarize it 19:45:34 calxism = ? 19:45:40 owtf 19:45:47 i broke my 1/8" to 1/4" adapter 19:46:04 a philosophy 19:46:19 conworld = constructed world? 19:46:23 yes 19:46:29 Sci-fi, in my case 19:46:32 calxism's core pillars of "LOL OK THIS IS TRUE:" = ? 19:46:38 name 3 19:46:39 Calxism tries to use logic to get the results we want 19:46:45 that's called science 19:46:51 no 19:47:21 Calxism tries to derive things like "murder is forbidden" from its core premise 19:47:34 core premise = 19:47:39 Actually it ends up deriving "murder should be really expensive" 19:47:42 ah... 19:47:58 what's the core premise? 19:48:29 * SimonRC tries to think how to explain... 19:48:47 you have a philosophy based on a core premise you can't explain 19:48:52 congrats 19:50:10 I didn't invent Calxism, I nicked it 19:50:26 ok, i think this sums it up roughly: "It's more about making a decisicion on what goal we should follow based on incomplete information being a bad call now, I think. There may or may not be a goal, but we should learn as much as we can incase there's something we discover more goalworthy along the way. In other words, more information can never be a bad thing, so for lack of a goal we should learn. If we find a goal we can all aspire to, great, if we d 19:50:35 (copypasta) 19:50:55 The idea is that there may be an ultimate goal, if so we need to find it 19:51:02 how do you derive "murder = expensive" from that? 19:51:19 The people I am lookingfor are the ones that were trying to write a book and start a country 19:51:25 ehird`: waste of people 19:51:33 SimonRC: how does that follow from the above 19:51:46 SimonRC: let's start a country! 19:51:48 can't remember exactly, it was a while ago 19:51:50 i've always wanted to do that 19:52:05 they added some extra stuff to make an actual legal system 19:52:13 -!- bsmntbom1dood has changed nick to bsmntbombdood. 19:52:42 the catchphrase "logical means to illogical ends" came up a few times 19:53:14 I think they planned to give people some money-like stuff depending on how hard they worked, or something... 19:53:26 that's called capitalism 19:53:44 heh 19:53:50 no, it is more restricted 19:53:53 and more centralised 19:53:58 oh great 19:54:00 there issome communism in there too 19:54:08 restriction and centralization, my favorite things 19:54:08 restricted centralized capitalism 19:54:10 just what we need 19:54:20 it's called "soviet union" 19:54:30 (... Communism, just what we need) 19:54:41 they had some other stuff that actually made it sound almost workable 19:54:58 and you could spend your "money" on things 19:55:07 omg! 19:55:15 there was no crime as such, just really expensive stuff 19:55:33 do i have to spend money to go to the toilet? 19:55:39 dunno 19:55:40 oh joy, so the RIAA can murder me if they want 19:55:42 I didn;t invent it 19:55:45 that's quite literally the definition of "money". A representative object or objects that can be exchanged for goods or services. 19:55:49 but i can't afford to fight back 19:56:00 but it isn't inheritable for a start 19:56:11 bsmntbombdood: I raised that point 19:56:43 except I think it is personal and non-transferrable 19:56:54 non-transferrable money? 19:56:59 isn't that called... "rocks"? 19:57:00 umm 19:57:09 or maybe... "air"? 19:57:12 how about "void"? 19:57:14 huh? 19:57:46 oh, right 19:57:49 possibly there was some restriction on how you could transferr it 19:58:00 anyway, I wasn't terribly convinced that such a country would work 19:58:11 the channel has gone very quite 19:58:12 money's entire function is in the act of transfer. You'd have to get pretty metaphysical and impractical to design an economy without monetary exchange. 19:58:26 It'd make "money" more like karma. 19:58:48 it wasn't exactly money, it was a measure of how much resources you werew allowed to use for your own leisure 19:59:14 so basically a metric by which your value to society is measured. 19:59:15 this sounds like a very happyfun society 19:59:23 (Note: here be sarcasm) 19:59:35 (the whole thing is a great illustration of "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" here applied to philosohpy) 19:59:39 ehird`: yup 19:59:49 RodgerTheGreat: yes, ish 20:00:09 "beancounting communism". interesting. 20:00:40 lol wut 20:00:49 hahaha 20:00:50 this doesn't make any sense >_< 20:01:24 http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/images/1190260876-inetargument.png 20:01:32 bsmntbombdood: you have to pay to go to the toilet, basically 20:02:06 public bathrooms in Germany charge a small fee to contribute to the maintenance and cleaning of said bathroom. 20:02:33 bathrooms in america have to pay to hook up to the sewer and for flushing water 20:02:37 RodgerTheGreat: damn I wish I were funny like you can be 20:02:56 re the cartoon, i mean 20:03:04 if that's sarcasm, it wasn't supposed to be amazing or anything 20:03:27 it wasn't sarcasm 20:03:35 was it? 20:03:39 i like the country i live in 20:03:46 or rather, I mean that I was able to write+draw comics at all 20:03:52 although i've always wanted to live in one of those sex cults 20:03:53 oh. then thanks. :) 20:04:01 oklopol: me too! 20:04:14 oklopol: i've always wanted to sex in one of those live cults 20:04:16 have you heard of dumba? 20:04:18 damn, that doesn't work 20:04:37 dumba? 20:04:51 http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/images/1190338381-deal.png <- I liked this one better. 20:05:13 or seen shortbus? 20:07:11 shortbus seems nice 20:07:40 "shortbus"? 20:07:45 a movie 20:08:25 any movie that's not a porno but starts off with an autofelatio scene has to be good 20:08:34 a 20:08:36 er 20:08:39 never heard of it 20:08:52 and you must have to be flexible to do that 20:08:59 yeah 20:09:03 waitamo... 20:09:04 hmm 20:09:13 * SimonRC feels that length of his ribcage 20:09:16 *the 20:09:27 the rib-cage can't bend... 20:09:35 remove your ribcage! 20:09:41 IMDB trivia on "shortbus": "To make the actors more comfortable, the director and the cameramen were stripped naked while filming the orgy scene." 20:09:45 and the vertebrae below it have a total length less than it... 20:09:50 heh 20:10:04 and it isn't porn? 20:10:09 I don't want to know 20:10:13 i'll see if i can find a screenshot 20:10:33 DO NOT WANT. 20:10:36 http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/476/shortbus00603984vu0.jpg 20:10:42 aw, christ 20:10:50 some fag covered the penis though 20:11:07 bsmntbombdood: first thought: ouroboros 20:11:51 SimonRC: yeah, it's not porn 20:12:31 * SimonRC agrees with RodgerTheGreat 20:13:48 :( 20:13:58 * SimonRC wonders when it will become commercially possibleto re-activate the human tail genes 20:14:11 they occasioanlly re-activate on their own 20:14:27 it will be a wonderful day for furries and a dark day for every sane human on earth. 20:14:33 SimonRC: when all biologists become furries 20:14:35 there are a very tiny number of people with monkey-like tails, about 30cm long 20:14:48 that's awesome 20:14:49 I think ehird` and I are on the same wavelength here. 20:14:50 * SimonRC recalls the events of 2043 20:14:52 are they prehensile? 20:15:01 bsmntbombdood: dunno 20:15:20 they look ugly due to no fur 20:15:20 RodgerTheGreat: quick, detune 20:15:25 i don't like wave interference 20:15:34 * RodgerTheGreat smashes his head against a desk 20:15:44 RodgerTheGreat: um? 20:15:46 much better 20:16:23 Is that a waveform collapse I taste? Or possibly blood. 20:17:14 SimonRC: I think adding a naked, ratlike tail to a human is one of the few ways you could possibly make us look more ridiculous. 20:17:35 RodgerTheGreat: i've seen both those strips before :< 20:17:38 good though 20:17:42 RodgerTheGreat: I think the furry biologists will probably work on that. 20:17:43 oklopol: sorry 20:18:06 "Half human, half squirrel, all fucking retarded" 20:18:24 http://nonlogic.org/dump/images/1192513276-diff2.png 20:18:27 All humans fuck retarded people now? 20:18:34 ... probably true 20:18:47 ... that is one possible interpretation of what I said. 20:18:49 -!- RedDak has joined. 20:19:20 ah, one of my best works: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.dragons/msg/f1961295cd324d15 20:19:25 RodgerTheGreat: those two pictures are identical 20:19:27 you bastard 20:19:37 ehird`: :D 20:19:46 the "solutions" page is gonna be hilarious 20:20:05 there are none. 20:20:12 "PIXEL #34 IS DIFFERENT" 20:20:20 ehird`: fast checking :| 20:20:21 I hope we can all agree, however, that genetic engineering + sexual fetishism = bad, bad news. 20:20:26 "BY ONE RGB VALUE" 20:20:32 i actually checked 3 times, though 20:20:49 actually, it seems to be the same image scanned in twice 20:20:55 RodgerTheGreat: hmm, yes 20:21:02 RodgerTheGreat: how do you genetically engineer for necrophillia? 20:21:19 who is the guy in the foreground? 20:21:21 ehird`: that is left as an exercise for the reader 20:21:27 SimonRC: which? 20:21:35 the one in all your cartoons 20:21:43 front desk 20:21:48 oh yes, that character is based on me. 20:21:48 awake 20:21:52 SimonRC: him? 20:21:55 "based on"? 20:21:58 based on. 20:22:16 (SimonRC lives in a world where every character has a 1:1 mapping to real people.) 20:22:17 as in not literally me, but in many ways similar. 20:22:25 ah, ok 20:22:29 makes sense 20:22:44 he is, for example, a hardcode DOS guru, whereas I am a mac user. 20:23:15 is there a collection of your cartoons? 20:23:23 there are more than just those 5on your site 20:23:42 http://rodger.nonlogic.org/images/ <- in here 20:23:51 starting with Comic001, etc 20:24:00 bbl- classes 20:24:00 * SimonRC reads 20:24:38 RodgerTheGreat> I hope we can all agree, however, that genetic engineering + sexual fetishism = bad, bad news. <-- unless it's your fetish 20:25:57 we really need an #esoteric-social 20:26:18 maybe 20:26:18 it's called #esoteric 20:26:25 heh 20:26:34 #vry-esoteric 20:26:37 *very 20:26:43 * SimonRC indicates his announcement of a few months back 20:26:46 #esoteric-esoterica 20:27:07 (actually, #esoteric-social exists, but only of virtue of me being in there in case anyone joins) 20:27:39 no 20:27:41 that's stupid 20:27:41 quick, nobody join! 20:27:50 SimonRC: :) 20:28:19 * SimonRC whistles the Chip's hallenge music 20:28:24 *Challenge 20:29:05 * bsmntbombdood is is is listening to helloween 20:29:13 * ehird` is is is 20:29:24 whoa 20:29:36 i've done 2 repititions of a word before, never 3 20:29:45 is is is is is is is is is is 20:30:04 grarg :( 20:30:14 i have to write a report about either aids or hunger 20:30:21 hunger for aids 20:31:30 it exists 20:31:34 "conversion parties" etc 20:45:43 -!- Corun has joined. 21:01:07 -!- Tritonio has joined. 21:25:20 -!- jix has quit ("CommandQ"). 21:30:31 -!- Tritonio has quit (Remote closed the connection). 21:33:36 -!- Tritonio has joined. 21:36:33 -!- Corun has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 21:55:08 -!- SEO_DUDE38 has joined. 22:13:46 -!- RedDak has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:47:23 5*4=-3 23:00:46 ...modulo 23 23:00:58 5*4=-4 modulo 23 23:01:23 congruent 23:01:27 (Is this "make formula that cannot be corrected by simple augmentation" day?) 23:01:32 5*4=2i modulo 23 23:01:43 -!- g4lt-sb100 has joined. 23:04:55 omg i gotta sleep :O 23:04:55 -> 23:05:46 -!- g4lt-mordant has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 23:14:42 -!- kwertii has joined. 23:38:16 zzzzzzzzzzz 23:44:19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx