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01:05:12 <anvil_> This nick doesn't make any sense.
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01:08:05 <oerjan> No the make sense of nick is.
01:08:30 <ihope_> Wrong is why order?
01:09:05 <oerjan> Belong to the order is of the essence.
01:09:30 <ihope_> Belong to the order is I do not want.
01:09:40 <ihope_> Not please of making me.
01:10:27 <oerjan> We aim to please.  You aim too, please.
01:11:00 <oerjan> Return back topic: "Order of urinal"
01:11:22 <ihope_> GregorR's?
01:11:42 <oerjan> presumably
01:11:54 * ihope_ nodding
01:12:05 <oerjan> u r in a lot of trouble...
01:13:34 <ihope_> Surprised is that on me.
01:14:37 <oerjan> If whenever in of toward beside.
01:15:00 <ihope_> Not is the sense of you.
01:16:38 <oerjan> Error: Grammatical spaghetti detected.  Please rewind.
01:17:59 * ihope_ spins clockwise at about 20Hz
01:19:27 * oerjan watches spaghetti fly to all sides.  The tomato sauce causes irrepairable damage.
01:19:39 <oerjan> WRONG DIRECTION!
01:21:31 <oerjan> @go "monad tutorials considered harmful"
01:21:47 * oerjan throws an axe after Mr. Wong
01:23:58 <ihope_> Now of sense time?
01:24:15 <ihope_> Or with not so on?
01:24:31 <oerjan> Possibly without because whether.
01:25:04 <ihope_> Whatever.
01:35:21 <bsmntbombdood> someone fucked up the toilet at work today
01:35:48 <bsmntbombdood> lucky i didn't have to clean it
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02:06:00 <pikhq> oerjan: I just won in Agora.
02:06:23 <oerjan> yay
02:06:32 <oerjan> and this has been truely confirmed?
02:06:35 <pikhq> No.
02:06:42 <pikhq> I just sent off the message to pull it off.
02:06:56 <pikhq> Sadly, the method I used for it says "without two objections".
02:07:48 <pikhq> If I were more patient, I would've waited a few days before sending off the contest text.
02:08:20 <pikhq> (the text for creating a contest has changed from "is fair to every player" to "without two objections". . . I note that a contest can be private until a contestant joins.)
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02:10:13 <bsmntbombdood> what's that?
02:11:41 <oerjan> http://agoranomic.org/
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02:45:17 <bsmntbombdood> life is a nomic!
02:45:34 <pikhq> You mean I can make changes to my DNA?
02:45:48 <bsmntbombdood> yes, actually
02:46:13 <oerjan> sure.  but the procedure is rather complicated, and the documentation has been lost.
02:46:17 <pikhq> And the rules to change my DNA are in my DNA?
02:46:35 <bsmntbombdood> you can change your kid's dna
02:46:41 <pikhq> Not the same thing.
02:47:10 <bsmntbombdood> and you can change how your own dna is expressed
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04:51:57 * immibis has made (in Rubicon): a bubble-sort, solutions to several puzzles, a program to square a number, two fibonacci sequence generators.
04:52:41 <bsmntbombdood> 2 [2^plax]dsax
04:53:16 <bsmntbombdood> damn i love dc
04:53:27 <immibis> dc?
04:53:55 <immibis> um
04:53:58 <immibis> [17:55] <bsmntbombdood> damn i love dc
04:53:58 <immibis> [17:53] <immibis> dc?
04:54:03 <oerjan> immibis: good work :)
04:54:07 <immibis> my computer can see the future.
04:54:28 <immibis> one type of processor.
04:54:43 <immibis> two laws-of-physics-change counters.
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04:55:10 <bsmntbombdood> for even bigger numbers, do 2[2r^plax]dsax
05:02:50 <RodgerTheGreat> oh, hey- I made an Applet that functions as an interactive interpreter to Sprocket, a language I made a couple weeks ago: http://rodger.nonlogic.org/games/CogEngine/Sprocket1/
05:03:24 <RodgerTheGreat> It's pretty limited, but I'm well on the way to implementing a more powerful newer revision of the language
05:07:57 <oerjan> OMGXKCD
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05:41:44 <immibis[A]> what's dc?
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05:42:33 * immibis is currently working on a divider in rubicon.
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06:02:16 <bsmntbombdood> haha xkcd
06:03:12 <immibis> what is xkcd?
06:03:22 <Slereah> A new one's up.
06:03:28 <Slereah> I assume this one : http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/success.png
06:03:34 <bsmntbombdood> immibis: stfu & gtfo
06:03:52 <Slereah> Oh, "what is".
06:03:53 <immibis> oh that xkcd http://xkcd.com/
06:04:39 <bsmntbombdood> i've experienced that before >_<
06:04:53 <bsmntbombdood> oh and haha i was going to upgrade openbsd soon
06:04:58 <Slereah> Stranded in the water full of sharks?
06:05:16 <Slereah> Not me, but I had similar experience.
06:05:41 <Slereah> Like that friend who told me that with Linux, I might be able to retrieve some data from a broken HD!
06:05:54 <immibis> division (only works when the result is a whole number): http://kevan.org/rubicon/game.php?level=hikyzon
06:06:46 <Slereah> Where are the lemmings?
06:07:04 <immibis> ?
06:07:25 <Slereah> A reference to the game of the same name.
06:07:37 <Slereah> Reminds me of it.
06:20:15 <immibis> "On May 14, 2007, Wolfram announced a $25,000 prize[1] to be won by the first person to prove or disprove the universality of a (2,3) Turing machine. On 24 October 2007, it was announced that Alex Smith, a student in electronics and computing at the University of Birmingham (UK), had won this prize.[2]."
06:25:00 <bsmntbombdood> ...
07:14:37 <immibis> all programs i have made in rubicon: http://www.stardrifter.org/rubisearch/?title=&designer=immibis&type=other&difficulty=&follows=
07:27:34 <immibis> why is mode +c on?
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07:38:48 <immibis> why is mode +c on?
07:45:09 <immibis> why is mode +c on?
07:45:30 <immibis> this text is not invisible but it would be if mode +c was off.
07:48:44 <immibis> !ps d
07:48:48 <EgoBot> 1 ais523: daemon ul bf
07:48:49 <EgoBot> 2 immibis: ps
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13:42:21 -!- ais523 has set topic: Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | IRP in #irp | Congratulations ais523 for winning the Wolfram research prize!.
14:12:47 <RodgerTheGreat> is that a joke, or are you serious?
14:13:00 <ais523> RodgerTheGreat: what are you referring to?
14:13:13 <RodgerTheGreat> "Congratulations ais523 for winning the Wolfram research prize!"
14:13:16 <ais523> if it's the topic, it's serious
14:13:22 <ais523> and it's been there for a while: check the logs
14:13:53 <RodgerTheGreat> cool, then
14:14:04 <RodgerTheGreat> congratulations
14:14:20 <ais523> thanks
14:14:20 <RodgerTheGreat> what do you plan to do with your moneys?
14:14:28 <ais523> put it in the bank, mostly
14:14:43 <ais523> I've spent some of it, though only a small proportion
14:14:47 <RodgerTheGreat> sounds like a good plan
14:16:59 <RodgerTheGreat> man, it's just really odd that someone I kinda know was involved in that- the internet has created a small, small world
14:17:19 <ais523> the esolangs knowledge was pretty relevant
14:17:40 <ais523> and besides, it was from #esoteric on freenode that I found out about the prize in the first place, so it all comes round in a circle eventually
14:20:06 <RodgerTheGreat> we should print a bunch of "team #esoteric" shirts.
14:21:40 <ais523> sounds great
14:22:17 <RodgerTheGreat> we just need some sort of witty slogan
14:23:03 <RodgerTheGreat> "when malbolge looks you in the eye, grin madly back I say"
14:24:16 <ais523> just a list of language names would be enough to confuse many people
14:24:26 <ais523> especially if some of the more oddly-named languages were included
14:24:52 <RodgerTheGreat> and you could have little boxes next to them that people could check for the languages they conquer
14:25:51 <ais523> I still want to write that nontrivial infinite loop in ///
14:26:02 <ais523> I'm pretty sure it's possible, but every attempt I've made to do it has failed
14:27:39 <RodgerTheGreat> I very nearly completed some logic gates that can be linked together arbitrarily, but that can only build a FSM, at best
14:27:58 <RodgerTheGreat> (and resetting the gates after they've triggered is a huge mess)
14:28:55 <RodgerTheGreat> I have a very strong gut instinct that /// could be TC, but we have a long way to go
14:29:41 <ais523> I was trying to do it using the Muriel method
14:29:56 <ais523> after all, it's not ridiculously hard to write the substitutions needed to quote something
14:30:08 <ais523> it's just hard to cause them to each happen exactly once
14:30:19 <ais523> i.e. once on each character that needs quoting
14:30:37 <RodgerTheGreat> by quoting, do you mean escaping?
14:31:12 <ais523> yed
14:31:16 <ais523> s/d/s/
14:31:24 <ais523> or maybe just /d/s/ as we're talking about ///
14:31:58 <RodgerTheGreat> heh
14:33:27 <RodgerTheGreat> good lord this is horrifying: http://web.archive.org/web/20020705102824/demo.raww.net/muriel/bub.txt
14:33:37 <RodgerTheGreat> a bub interpreter in muriel
14:35:01 <ais523> isn't that how Muriel was proven TC in the first place
14:35:08 <ais523> s/$/?/
14:35:08 <RodgerTheGreat> yeah
14:36:40 <ais523> wow, that's pretty unreadable
14:36:41 <RodgerTheGreat> bub is an odd variant of BF, so if you can interpreter bub you are TC by the... transitive property of turing-completeness? :)
14:36:54 <RodgerTheGreat> *interpret bub
14:37:07 <ais523> 'can interpret' is transitive
14:37:29 <ais523> what you do is interpret a Brainfuck interpreter written in Bub
14:37:44 <RodgerTheGreat> I uderstand how it works
14:40:38 <RodgerTheGreat> hm. /// highly resembles an Deterministic Finite State Automaton.
14:40:47 <RodgerTheGreat> *a
14:40:56 <RodgerTheGreat> damn, my brain must not be awake yet
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14:43:37 <RodgerTheGreat> I figure you could do something resembling "and" operations by having a string like x1x2x3x4, then substituting x1 for another symbol, like T1, and so on, and then ultimately doing a replacement looking for T1T2T3T4
14:44:27 <ais523> I haven't really got as far as any actual calculation, just trying to create a loop
14:44:56 <ais523> it helps a lot if you just use / and \ for characters in terms of trying to automatically do escaping
14:45:28 <RodgerTheGreat> loops are very important, I've just been focusing on constructing math and logic. It's pretty tricky to do in a modular fashion
14:45:32 <ais523> you can use strings like ////\//// (which can't appear legally anywhere in parts of a /// program that actually get executed) as delimiters
14:46:04 <RodgerTheGreat> hm
14:49:35 <RodgerTheGreat> well, I'll be back later- can't skip Computer Organization!
15:12:35 <bsmntbombdood> watch out, he's going to fuck your husband and kill you
15:13:21 <bsmntbombdood> computer organization, lol
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20:02:32 <ehird`> I am going to write a Lisp interpreter in Glass or Underload.
20:02:37 <ehird`> Discuss. And suggest which.
20:05:37 <ehird`> GregorR: why is glass' only implementation an irc bot written in c++
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20:21:43 <ehird`> !glass {L[+(_a)A!a.?]}{M[m(_l)L!<2><2>(_o)+.?]}
20:30:19 <ehird`> EINSTEIN CHOCOLATE
20:37:02 <GregorR> ehird`: That's inaccurate.
20:37:12 <ehird`> GregorR: Perhaps. :-)
20:37:17 <ehird`> Is my code right, btw?
20:37:20 <ehird`> it should do 2 + 2
20:37:32 <jix> hah i wrote really cool glass stuff
20:37:43 <GregorR> ehird`: Not perhaps, most certainly. The Glass interpreter is a standalone program, like all of the interpreters EgoBot uses.
20:37:48 <jix> stuff like sqrt and i think exp() etc
20:37:57 <GregorR> jix: I do believe it's still in there.
20:38:10 <ehird`> GregorR: Nuh uh. You have loads of "#ifdef IRC" crap in there
20:38:39 <GregorR> ehird`: I slightly adjusted the Glass interpreter for IRC use, yes. But the version in the IRC bot is a branch, not the original.
20:38:49 <ehird`> Is it? Ok then :P
20:39:00 <GregorR> Reading is helpful.
20:39:11 <ehird`> That's a new concept to me
20:39:22 <jix> reading is overrated
20:39:26 <ehird`> I agree
20:39:39 <jix> hmm overrated would be a cool name for an esolang
20:39:51 <ehird`> yes!
20:39:55 <GregorR> Eh, I think you may be overrating that name choice.
20:40:00 <ehird`> groan
20:40:03 <jix> but the only thing i can think of would be another useless language
20:40:07 <GregorR> HAW HAW HAW TEH FUNNEHS
20:40:36 <GregorR> jix: That'd be perfect, because then it would be overrated :P
20:41:11 <ehird`> POLL: In my other lisp (Python, called Foonab, quite esoteric), make a string a list of characters, instead of an internal vector of characters
20:41:12 <jix> ok here is the spec "The authors decided to release no specs because they think specs are overrated anyway"
20:41:18 <ehird`> that's quite silly, so sounds good to me? :P
20:41:36 <bsmntbombdood> you know
20:41:39 <bsmntbombdood> caffiene kinda sucks
20:41:45 <jix> bsmntbombdood: it doesn't
20:41:54 <bsmntbombdood> i love espresso, but i don't have it very often
20:42:07 <jix> it makes you moving your legs and everything like insane and you talk without breathing etc etc....
20:42:11 <bsmntbombdood> so when i do, i'm all nervous and jittery for the rest of the day
20:42:42 <jix> uh and then when you are really tired but haven't gone to bed because of all the caffeine you get a really bad headache
20:43:14 <jix> i think caffeine is great
20:43:54 <ihope> As far as I can tell, caffeine does nothing to me.
20:44:35 <bsmntbombdood> do you have it often?
20:45:00 <jix> bsmntbombdood: me? coffeine?
20:45:04 <bsmntbombdood> no, ihope
20:45:06 <jix> ah
20:45:06 <ihope> No, I don't.
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20:47:21 <ihope> I have the occasional pop; that does nothing noticeable.
20:47:35 <ehird`> ihope: hello
20:47:39 <ihope> Ello.
20:47:58 <ehird`> the LITHP language, version 1:
20:48:09 <ehird`> t litht 1 2 3 h
20:48:42 <ehird`> t conth 'hello t litht 1 2 3 hh
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20:49:09 <ihope> A caffeine pill that contains "about as much as a cup of coffee" doesn't seem to do anything either.
20:49:50 <jix> they are funny if you don't know that there is so much caffeine in there
20:49:59 <jix> but you start to get _very_ annoying
20:51:03 <ihope> If you're not aware of the amount of caffeine, you end up doing things that annoy others and not noticing as much?
20:51:38 <bsmntbombdood> pop doesn't have much caffeine
20:55:17 <ehird`> oklopol: gi
20:55:18 <ehird`> *hi
21:02:59 <jix> ihope: exactly
21:03:39 <jix> well i can do that without coffeine too.... but coffeine helps
21:15:03 <bsmntbombdood> coffeine?
21:15:16 <clayrat> caffeine
21:15:54 <bsmntbombdood> duh
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21:20:37 <ihope> Perhaps I should avoid caffeine for others' sake, then.
21:22:10 <bsmntbombdood> i've noticed that too
21:22:23 <bsmntbombdood> if i'm aware, i compensate and the effects can't be seen by others
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21:24:20 <clayrat> tea is good
21:24:23 <bsmntbombdood> yes it is
21:29:03 * ihope nods
21:30:53 <bsmntbombdood> i was talking to this chinese guy about tea
21:31:16 <bsmntbombdood> he said to brew black tea he steeps it for 15 minutes, throws out the tea, and steeps for 15 minutes again
21:32:30 <clayrat> this is somewhat crazy
21:32:46 <clayrat> what i do i simply use not boiling water on green tea
21:33:12 <bsmntbombdood> and the reuses the tea leaves for 4 more brewings
21:33:16 <clayrat> since too hot makes it bitter and upsets tomach
21:33:29 <clayrat> yeah, reusing is the key
21:34:03 <clayrat> one guy taught me to fry the tea
21:35:01 <clayrat> you take a fistful of rice, put it in water for 20 min, then fry it on the pan until it gets brown and cracke
21:35:31 <clayrat> then you throw some green tea on the pan and fry it just for several seconds until it starts to smell sweety-spicy
21:35:41 <bsmntbombdood> this guy said he liked poached eggs cooked in tea
21:35:41 <clayrat> then you just brew the stuff
21:36:11 <clayrat> it takes on pinky flavour and tastes of rice, quite nice
21:36:24 <clayrat> century eggs, eh
21:40:11 <bsmntbombdood> whoa
21:41:22 <jix> whoops it's the german word for caffeine koffein .... mixed that
21:43:31 <bsmntbombdood> oh
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