00:01:57 -!- sarehu has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:04:05 -!- sarehu has joined. 00:12:36 anyone alive? 00:17:50 I want to kill this person: 00:17:54 'You use manuals? Wow. I think your problems are bigger than coldfusion.' 00:19:26 ehird`: That's. . . 00:19:35 pikhq: Beautiful? Yeah. I know. 00:20:05 * pikhq hurts 00:20:12 That is just painful to see. 00:20:38 pikhq: I'm sure you can manage. :P 00:22:21 -!- RodgerTheGreat has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 00:29:10 pikhq: Any thoughts on a hypothetical MapReduce-alike esolang? 00:29:14 I have no idea what it would be like. :P 00:34:43 None. 00:34:54 aww 00:39:27 pikhq: do you think it's a good idea, at least? ;) 00:40:10 Could be. 01:04:03 -!- RodgerTheGreat has joined. 01:10:17 hey RodgerTheGreat 01:10:34 hi, ehird` 01:12:20 Hi all 01:12:31 pikhq, remember the stuff you did for PEBBLE wrt PSOX? 01:12:50 If you had anything with the file descriptor stuff, it will need to be redone 01:13:19 Also, I can't decide if I should make 0x00 short for current outfile, 0x01 current infile, 0x02 stdout, 0x03 stdin 01:13:27 Or should I get rid of the shortcuts? 01:13:47 pikhq, awake? 01:13:51 Anyone awake? 01:14:01 RodgerTheGreat? 01:14:31 hm 01:15:25 0x00 for stdout, 0x01 for stdin, 0x02 for current outfile and 0x03 for current infile. 01:15:36 you should put them in order of how commonly they'll be used 01:15:39 -!- sarehu has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:15:49 -!- sarehu has joined. 01:15:57 0 for out, 1 for in 01:16:17 And the way to reset is with using the functions with standard fds 01:16:24 But possibly current will be used more? 01:18:36 I dunno 01:18:46 at some point it just becomes arbitrary 01:19:42 Is it too many special FDs? 01:22:24 * Sgeo puts it in 01:22:27 and commits 01:26:07 and a decision is reached! 01:26:58 RodgerTheGreat: know of any esolangs desperately needing a good impl but there are none attempted? 01:27:13 hm. 01:27:59 none come immediately to mind, but lemme crawl esolang 01:28:47 Hm, should I bother putting in a feature to find out the current descriptor number, or should I not bother? 01:28:57 It wouldn't be all too easy for me to add it 01:29:05 doesn't seem tremendously important 01:29:35 bingo... http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Category:Unimplemented 01:30:08 RodgerTheGreat: bit unspecific :) 01:30:18 yeah, I'm looking through the list 01:30:50 this could be an easy start: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/JumpFuck 01:31:06 RodgerTheGreat: i made that 01:31:07 lmao 01:31:11 haha 01:31:14 that was my first esolang 01:31:14 :p 01:31:26 it's a little like my idea for "Def-BF" 01:33:01 heh 01:33:04 php infinite loop: #! 01:33:05 (seriously.) 01:33:52 oh, man- this sounds like a fun one: http://calamari.reverse-dns.net:980/files/bubble/bubble.txt 01:34:21 Any glaring issues with http://trac2.assembla.com/psox/browser/trunk/impl/psox/fd.py ? 01:34:48 RodgerTheGreat: haha :) 01:34:54 that would be pure hell on earth in c, though 01:34:56 seems alright 01:35:22 RodgerTheGreat: the dynamic shuffling of stuff, though 01:36:30 http://golf.shinh.org/reveal.rb?Timeout/kt3k/1196790123&z8b <-- a one character infinite loop. what fun 01:36:47 MOV 0,1 01:37:12 RodgerTheGreat: pretty much what that does 01:37:17 but it's ascii! 01:37:18 'a' 01:37:29 'x' also works 01:37:36 and i think one-byte ascii machine code infinite loops pretty much own 01:37:47 * Sgeo suddenly sees a glaring issue 01:38:48 Forgot to change the outfile and infile to filelike in read() and write() 01:38:50 LD H,C? which architecture is that? 01:38:56 olsner: z80 01:39:08 aha 01:39:43 i think what we need 01:39:49 is an ascii-only machine emulator thing 01:39:54 so we can splurge like 01:40:07 sdf#'£:$opjzxiub98yjjisad]][OP")_+ 01:40:09 and see what it does 01:44:21 I wonder what a PHAWN impl in c would be like. 01:46:11 "Phawn is still on the drawing board" haha 01:47:33 wait, what's funny about that 01:47:33 -!- olsner has quit ("Leaving"). 01:47:42 PHAWN? 01:51:37 -!- Tritonio_ has joined. 01:58:36 RodgerTheGreat: phawn. 02:00:23 -!- Corun has quit ("Arr"). 02:23:18 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 02:33:43 -!- ehird` has quit ("K-Lined by peer"). 03:10:35 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 04:27:12 -!- immibis has joined. 05:29:35 -!- oerjan has joined. 05:32:13 -!- sarehu has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:00:21 -!- XMLCloser has joined. 06:06:10 -!- XMLCloser has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 06:10:14 -!- sarehu has joined. 06:16:07 -!- XMLCloser has joined. 06:36:23 -!- sarehu has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:58:06 This is text 06:58:07 06:58:49 06:58:50 Not well-formed XML! 06:58:58 06:58:59 06:59:09 that means shut the fuck up 06:59:10 06:59:56 -!- XMLCloser has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:02:16 -!- GreaseMonkey has set topic: THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC | I AGREE. 07:03:12 -!- immibis has set topic: 10 THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC : I AGREE : GOTO 10. 07:37:13 -!- olsner has joined. 07:38:02 -!- immibis has quit ("Hi Im a qit msg virus. 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Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. and dlte ur files. thx."). 09:16:19 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 09:38:13 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 09:39:18 -!- puzzlet has joined. 10:34:15 -!- Figs has joined. 10:37:02 >.< 11:04:41 -!- jix has joined. 11:10:18 Bah 11:10:26 this assignment is driving me nuts 11:10:53 basically I have to reverse engineer the rest of the project to figure out what the hell the functions I'm supposed to write should do 11:11:22 immibis is the greatest :) 11:11:28 since there's barely any documentation anywhere explaining the purpose of anything 11:11:34 immibis? 11:11:39 yeah 11:11:48 what is immibis? 11:11:59 it's a programming language 11:12:50 I don't see it on the wiki 11:12:59 look a bit deeper 11:13:15 immibis is a guy occasionally on this channel 11:13:16 I found a user 11:13:21 yarr 11:13:23 him 11:13:29 he's a programming language? 11:13:32 :P 11:14:18 no, he is a lie! 11:14:26 the cake is a lie. 11:14:32 I haven't played that game. 11:14:51 the CAKE? the *CAKE*?? the cake is on fire 11:15:07 http://limerickdb.com/?286 11:16:03 There once was a buggy AI/Who decided her subject should die/When the plot was uncovered/The subject discovered/That sadly, the cake was a lie. 11:19:45 Haa, this is a good one: http://limerickdb.com/?291 11:20:44 -!- oklofok has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 11:22:03 -!- oklopol has joined. 11:35:39 -!- jix has quit ("CommandQ"). 12:11:16 -!- slereah__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 12:11:34 -!- slereah__ has joined. 12:35:37 -!- sebbu has joined. 13:02:42 -!- Figs has quit ("Java user signed off"). 13:07:32 -!- puzzlet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 13:07:36 -!- puzzlet has joined. 13:13:46 -!- helios24 has joined. 13:17:19 -!- slereah__ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 13:18:41 -!- Slereah has joined. 14:17:39 -!- timotiis has joined. 14:19:52 -!- Slereah has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 14:19:53 -!- slereah__ has joined. 14:43:20 -!- jix has joined. 15:23:52 -!- slereah__ has changed nick to Slereah. 16:31:24 -!- CodeMangler has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 17:09:15 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:58:04 -!- asiekierka has joined. 17:58:05 Hello 17:58:17 Hi 17:58:26 I wonder what you consider "the best esoteric language", and what you consider "the easiest esoteric language" 17:58:52 Well, I'd say "mine", but it would be a little biased. 17:59:01 I like the concept of Gravity. 17:59:11 Also Rube 17:59:46 What about the easiest one? 17:59:57 -!- RedDak has joined. 18:00:22 I mostly use Turing Tarpits, so I can't really say the easiest ones. 18:00:31 Since they're usually not easy. 18:00:48 the best esoteric language is clearly. 18:01:08 I mean, the easiest, I.E. easiest to implement, but still sorta easy to use. 18:02:04 Well, BF is easy to implement. And sort of easy to use, with loose definition of easy. 18:06:25 I'd say, look for a high-level language. 18:06:36 Unless that's not esoteric enough for you! 18:06:43 *ahem* 18:06:55 what do you consider the MOST ESOTERIC LANGUAGE EVER 18:07:08 Malbolge? 18:07:33 Although it still uses an ordinary machine, sort of. 18:09:02 you're dead for mentioning Malbolge. it's way too hard for an ordinary person. 18:09:21 if you have IQ 155+, then you'll be able to understand it 18:09:33 if ordinary people could do it, it wouldn't be esoteric, now would it? 18:10:12 Only INTERNET SUPERHEROES! 18:11:05 OISC is great, it's the most minimal thing ever. 18:11:11 ZISC, on the other hand, it... SUCKS 18:11:16 it takes instructions in a different form 18:11:23 ZISC - Zero Instruction Set Computer 18:11:25 zisc? isn't that ibm's old neural net processor? 18:11:41 OISC is cheating. 18:11:41 It has three arguments :o 18:12:05 yeah, it's like having EVAL as an opcode 18:12:14 but it's only one instruction. 18:13:13 But three symbols. 18:13:18 you can minimalize it to two instructions with two arguments each. 18:13:29 olsner: having EVAL as an opcode would not be very useful if it were the only instruction. 18:13:37 Well, Lazy K has two instructions. 18:13:47 JINE (Jump If NEgative)
18:13:51 lazy k does not have two instructions. 18:13:55 lament: depends on what it takes - let's say it takes a pointer to a block of lisp code :P 18:13:56 SUB (SUBtract) 18:14:05 Well, functions. 18:14:13 I'm not that good on terminology. 18:34:55 -!- RedDak has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 18:48:55 -!- faxathisia has joined. 19:19:58 -!- sarehu has joined. 19:49:07 -!- sarehu has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:08:38 -!- mental has joined. 20:19:47 -!- lament has quit (Connection timed out). 20:25:01 -!- ehird` has joined. 20:25:03 -!- ehird` has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 20:25:28 -!- asiekierka has quit. 20:25:32 -!- ehird` has joined. 20:27:26 -!- Slereah has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:27:35 -!- Slereah has joined. 20:34:20 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 20:46:11 -!- jix has quit ("CommandQ"). 21:08:46 -!- mental has changed nick to lament. 21:10:53 -!- helios24 has quit ("Leaving"). 21:16:59 GregorR: I am going to write malloc&co for c2bf. 21:17:06 Maybe even a garbage collector. <:O> 21:20:58 -!- faxathisia has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:24:13 ERROR in generation parameter_declaration: Type name parameters are not yet supported. 21:24:14 brilliant 21:26:37 pikhq: pebble2 should be based on c2bf! 21:26:44 but with a whole load of primitives for cool brainfuck stuff. 21:59:27 :P 22:11:14 -!- RedDak has joined. 22:11:21 ehird`: God no. 22:11:27 :( y nawt 22:11:30 If anything, c2bf should target PEBBLE. 22:16:02 bah 22:16:03 why 22:46:39 ls 22:46:41 damnit 22:46:48 this isn't the emacs window, is it? 22:47:01 Heh. 22:50:19 -!- timotiis has quit ("leaving"). 23:02:07 Why? Because PEBBLE should create *simple* code, not the word's most complex code. 23:02:26 And C2BF creates code worse than you'd expect from asm->bf->asm->bf. 23:11:13 -!- RedDak has quit (Remote closed the connection). 23:41:11 pikhq: c2bf code isn't that bad 23:48:19 -!- mib_hcz1e6me has joined. 23:48:34 wow, mibbit sucks 23:48:34 :D 23:48:44 * mib_hcz1e6me is ehird 23:49:20 -!- mib_hcz1e6me has quit (Client Quit). 23:49:35 -!- mib_nfvwl022 has joined. 23:49:54 i like how the wii version is just the normal version 23:49:54 -!- mib_nfvwl022 has quit (Client Quit). 23:57:23 Heh.