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15:05:28 <slereah_> Is there an interpreter for the analytical engine?
15:07:34 <slereah_> http://www.fourmilab.ch/babbage/cmdline.html
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15:53:22 <slereah_> Hell. The original Analytical Engine paper is full of old timey device reference.
16:00:14 * Judofyr is writing the spec to Skull+ (Skull with input and subroutines) :)
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16:23:35 <ehird> specifically, OCaml
16:24:52 <ehird> *Sgeo wants lucid dreams!
16:24:52 <ehird> *bsmntbombdood too!
16:24:52 <ehird> *pikhq considers vomiting
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17:37:09 <slereah_> Let us conceive a pile or vertical column consisting of an indefinite number of circular discs, all pierced through their centres by a common axis, around which each of them can take an independent rotatory movement. If round the edge of each of these discs are written the ten figures which constitute our numerical alphabet, we may then, by arranging a series of these figures in the same vertical line, express in this manner
17:37:23 <slereah_> Old time tapes weren't very practical!
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18:05:34 <RodgerTheGreat> slereah_: that isn't really the same as a tape. More like a register.
18:06:21 <slereah_> Well, if there's an infinity of disks, and each one can take 10 different symbols, it could be viewed as a tape :o
18:07:53 <RodgerTheGreat> the analytical engine used a punch/card reader to provide unbounded storage, if I recall, which would be analagous to a tape
18:08:29 <slereah_> Oh hell. The article is talking about weaving.
18:08:56 <slereah_> It's all the punch card's fault!
18:09:44 <slereah_> I know. Hence, it's the punch card's fault!
18:09:49 <RodgerTheGreat> Babbage had the unique status of existing just on the brink of technologies that would make fully automatic computing possible.
18:10:25 <slereah_> "Two species of threads are usually distinguished in woven stuffs; one is the warp or longitudinal thread, the other the woof or transverse thread, which is conveyed by the instrument called the shuttle, and which crosses the longitudinal thread or warp."
18:10:40 <slereah_> Allthough I'm not sure that this information is especially important.
18:11:11 <RodgerTheGreat> I think it's important if you want to explain how the punchcards are used to encode weaving patterns
18:14:01 <ehird> i am writing a decent todo thingy
18:14:08 <ehird> it will support offline & online operation
18:14:19 <ehird> + a web interface for when you're on a different machine
18:14:22 <Sgeo> Hm, what was #zingcode ?
18:14:25 <ehird> and Tons Of Cool Stuff
18:14:29 <Sgeo> I had that set on autojoin
18:14:32 <ehird> Sgeo: Zing and CZing discussioj
18:15:06 * Sgeo goes to get rid of unneeded channels in his autojoin list
18:15:13 <ehird> ooh, maybe via irc!
18:16:10 <ehird> the command line interface will be awesome
18:17:31 <RodgerTheGreat> ehird: so, a todo list app with commandline, web-based and IRC-based interfaces?
18:18:06 <ehird> RodgerTheGreat: Pretty much.
18:18:10 <ehird> RodgerTheGreat: But with actually unique features.
18:18:19 <ehird> And, the idea is that adding items isn't any harder than e.g. a simple textfile
18:18:25 <ehird> unless you want to, to provide more info
18:18:35 <Sgeo> slereah_, not if it's in a normal language, I'd assume
18:18:41 <RodgerTheGreat> ehird: have a look at this and see if it gives you another wonderful idea: http://pocketmod.com/
18:18:57 <Sgeo> *GASP!* I said something not 100% positive about PSOX!
18:20:05 <ehird> RodgerTheGreat: seen it. don't have a use for it.
18:21:03 <RodgerTheGreat> the natural idea here, which you are missing, is to provide an RSS feed for the web-based interface, so that you can hook up this global todo system with Pocketmod and innumerable other PIMs
18:21:16 <ehird> of course it will have an rss field
18:21:51 <ehird> RodgerTheGreat: I hope that adding a todo item will be basically this:
18:21:54 <ehird> $ todo "Do foo and bar."
18:22:11 <ehird> with some kind of tag:
18:22:15 <ehird> $ todo @code "Code foo."
18:22:34 <RodgerTheGreat> and if you just say "todo", it lists out a line-by line list of your todos
18:23:13 <ehird> formatted with gorgeous ANSI codes
18:23:27 <ehird> but it would probably only show recent ones
18:23:32 <ehird> and tell you to give it -a for all of them
18:23:43 <RodgerTheGreat> gotta have a commandline flag to dump out pure text, though
18:23:47 <ehird> and of course tons more ways to view stuff :)
18:24:00 <ehird> RodgerTheGreat: 'if we are on a supporting terminal, ansi'
18:24:15 <ehird> 'ls' e.g. does this
18:25:03 * Sgeo tries the pocketmod thing
18:25:49 <RodgerTheGreat> Sgeo: it's a pretty nifty idea, but I think what it needs is some kind of database you can store on your computer and an easy way to read data from a used one and enter it into the database
18:25:53 <ehird> RodgerTheGreat: did i mention that the todos will be revision controlled?
18:26:17 <ehird> hah, i forgot, you don't like vcses because you think they're all like svn
18:26:23 <ehird> have fun with your generalizations, i guess
18:26:49 <RodgerTheGreat> I don't like vcses because they're generally *unnecessary* and you just demonstrated a prime fucking example of that
18:27:31 <ehird> RodgerTheGreat: you will see.
18:27:39 <ehird> it will be terribly useful in this case
18:28:00 <RodgerTheGreat> yes, I will see this project slowly spiral into feature bloat and the dark forests of overkill
18:28:30 <ehird> i like simple, minimalistic things
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19:05:10 <Sgeo> http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/screenshots/xchat_strangeness.png
19:11:40 <ihope> Subchannels. Cool.
19:12:56 <Sgeo> ehird, I want them all to be on the same level, dagnabit
19:12:56 <ehird> Infinite Array of IRC Channels
19:13:11 <ehird> a server is just a remote channel!
19:13:26 <ehird> decentralized channel relations!
19:13:34 <ihope> ehird: but IAIC doesn't spell anything!
19:13:58 <ehird> (iirc, that's the name)
19:16:17 <lament> infinite irc, that's the name.
19:16:28 <lament> if i remember correctly.
19:17:38 <ehird> but i still like my idea!
19:17:48 <ehird> It's like the cvs/svn->git transition.. for irc!
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19:42:51 <ihope> So, some people are extremely smart, some people have a photographic memory, some people have lucid dreams naturally, etc. It'd be interesting to be a different one of those every day.
19:45:19 * lament gives ihope some curious pills
19:45:41 <slereah_> You now have a pornographic memory :o
19:45:45 * ihope takes them, and then takes them
19:46:37 * oerjan takes the polkadot pill
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22:26:21 <ihope> pikhq: get thee to Sine!
22:32:49 <Sgeo> pikhq, whynot?
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