%DATA%' < 1205615864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, but if original IP spawns again... then it would be slower < 1205615880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it looks like obfuscated HTML < 1205615881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie if all splits happen from main thread, or if all happens from each new child < 1205615898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, that is html < 1205615901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: with template crap around it < 1205615921 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MediaWiki markup probably does much the same thing and looks much better than that < 1205615923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh another thing, should the thread ID reported by y stay unique? as in, should it just be index into thread array, or some soft of unique index? < 1205615927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the html is also amusingly 1996 < 1205615932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was developed for livejournal < 1205615935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :& lj still uses it. < 1205615935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, that persists during the entire program < 1205615945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in fact, the architechture of lj is very simple.. < 1205615951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there are lots of perl files < 1205615952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: wouldn't that been it was full of tags, frames, and weird JavaScript designed to look flashy? < 1205615956 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/been/mean/ < 1205615957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but the actual webpages are php-style bml < 1205615961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: with embedded perl < 1205615965 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not sure, it might have mattered for some fingerprint or something < 1205615970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the site may look modern nowadays < 1205615972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's just a skin.. < 1205615982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes but what one do CCBI do? standard doesn't say anything about it < 1205616002 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think with CCBI they're 64-bit and unique... but I'm not sure < 1205616029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, and the livejournal software requires ROOT ACCESS to set up < 1205616033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's almost as fiddly as slashcode < 1205616038 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, err, 64-bit? I thought data typed used was 32-bit, so if you spawned 2^31 you would get issues? < 1205616045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why? < 1205616053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you know I have no idea < 1205616055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but it does, officially < 1205616059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, as y couldn't return it in a single data cell < 1205616073 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: beats me, okay? look at the source. :-P < 1205616084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, heh ok < 1205616095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's really crazy < 1205616129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.sixapart.com/trac/livejournal/browser/trunk < 1205616136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, btw what does ! mean in D? as in new Stack!(Semantics); < 1205616143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a directory named 't' < 1205616143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1205616149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Stack!(foo) -> Stack < 1205616150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ < 1205616151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's generics < 1205616154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or teamplates < 1205616156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1205616157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever you wish to call em < 1205616172 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I've used generics in C# yes so I know what they are < 1205616186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just used foo syntax there < 1205616194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: whoaaa.... livejournal uses INLINE C! < 1205616195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.sixapart.com/trac/livejournal/browser/trunk/src/utf8.pl < 1205616221 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: C's a compiled language usually, so I'm not sure if that even makes sense < 1205616249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Inline::C < 1205616254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it compiles it out from a string < 1205616256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very popular.. < 1205616260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm suprised you don't know of it < 1205616263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very useful < 1205616269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ... yeah. in a blog software?! < 1205616285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's mouse just came apart
< 1205616305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, heres the big glob of bml http://code.sixapart.com/trac/livejournal/browser/trunk/htdocs < 1205616305 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've snapped it back together; the battery cover keeps coming off < 1205616305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wait, does it compile it once in a temp dir or what? < 1205616306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: pretty much < 1205616308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's clever < 1205616309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ie, how does it work, does it fork() to run the code? < 1205616316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://search.cpan.org/~ingy/Inline-0.44/C/C.pod < 1205616322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no < 1205616323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clever < 1205616324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://search.cpan.org/~ingy/Inline-0.44/C/C.pod < 1205616325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I can't read perl :( < 1205616367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's documentation < 1205616368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1205616376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1205616378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And now on People Who Comment Before Clicking Links..) < 1205616394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I clicked, but dns server is slow today < 1205616402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's still loading < 1205616412 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:24:04] ehird, I can't read perl :( < 1205616412 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:24:46] AnMaster: that's documentation < 1205616415 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotelicious :D < 1205616437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1205616443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: that'll be on the qdb :p < 1205616753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: umm, crap, i'm starting to want to code stuff in perl < 1205616757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: WTF did you do to me < 1205616774 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: maybe that should be in the qdb too < 1205616785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ironically the thing i'm wanting to code in perl is the qdb. < 1205616786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1205616802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is good for some things, bad for others < 1205616818 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my first choice for anything rewriting-related, unless Thutu would be a resonable choice < 1205616831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: of course, i'm not being silly and reusing perl webdev stuff < 1205616833 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host13-80-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1205616843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most i'll use is CGI/CGI::Fast and some DB stuff < 1205616843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1205616847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and a template engine < 1205616852 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me, or is the Internet rather centralized? < 1205616858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: just you. < 1205616879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, does perl have anything built on DBI so i don't have to use SQL? < 1205616880 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there are root servers, and there also has to be some organization assigning IP addresses at the top < 1205616883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python has stuff like: < 1205616891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :db.select("users", name="foo") < 1205616901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get a hash back < 1205616912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also ORMs but i'm not sure about any of perl's oo systems < 1205616946 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't IANA basically control IP addresses and domain names? < 1205617163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1205617168 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1205617397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabs his code
< 1205617409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite fork < 1205617413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for unknown reason < 1205617467 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: within the program, or did you just forkbomb your computer? < 1205617480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, within the interpreter < 1205617483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just ttttttttttttttttttttt < 1205617485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1205617487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on mycology < 1205617489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION debugs
< 1205617680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: eso-std.org should use shell scripts. < 1205617688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :durable! ;) < 1205617698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god... cgi.sh library :D < 1205617725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forces your script to take parameters like ?a;b;c because sh doesn't have hashes :) < 1205617796 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not that surprising, really < 1205617802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they could emulate them < 1205617817 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that has eval and allows arbitrary variable names that can escape the eval can emulate hashes ;) < 1205617885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i meant, it would be hilarious to have a module like that < 1205617891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah < 1205617894 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean it doesn't exist yet? < 1205617896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using md5?! :D < 1205617904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stores in $GET__sdfs98dfu98su4knjfd < 1205617920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: $(hash GET foo) < 1205617921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1205617937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: hashing using an actual cryptographic hash function strikes me as a neat mix of concepts < 1205617948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :header () { echo -n "$1: $2\r\n" } < 1205617950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: quite < 1205617961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason i said it is because you can trivially get an md5 from the shell < 1205617978 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why not just header () { echo "$1: $2\r" } < 1205617986 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that saves the need to use -n, which is nonportable < 1205617994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: true < 1205618007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to write cgi.sh now < 1205618008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1205618042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: your projects seem to require writing other projects in order to be able to start < 1205618055 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice to get something up and running on eso-std.org sometime soon < 1205618063 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pastebin would have been useful, for instance < 1205618072 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, i love java, reading a file to a string is like 6 lines <3 < 1205618080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: indeed < 1205618090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, the pastebin is going to be Really Advanced(TM) ;) < 1205618093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I like reinventing the wheel. < 1205618103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, hopefully i only need to get the wheel right *once*. :p < 1205618121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :md5 () { echo "$1" | md5sum | sed 's/ .*//' } < 1205618171 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't distinguish between $1=--help and $1=the help text for GNU echo, if that's what's being used < 1205618204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: huh? < 1205618210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :md5sum outputs: "sum -" < 1205618219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo "foo" | md5sum < 1205618219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d3b07384d113edec49eaa6238ad5ff00 - < 1205618225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean they're the same text, so they'll hash to the same thing < 1205618244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: show me what you mean < 1205618244 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that this matters at all, but echo "x$1" would avoid that problem < 1205618250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'--help' is not equal to 'the help text' < 1205618255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1205618255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1205618260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: better fix: < 1205618262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -- "$1" < 1205618269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ... everyone uses the shell builtin < 1205618271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean seriously :) < 1205618281 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo will actually echo -- if you give it as an argument < 1205618287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jeez < 1205618317 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION seems to remember a system (was it SunOS?) on which echo was deprecated in favour of printf
< 1205618337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1205618358 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because it's command-line parameter processing was so inconsistent < 1205618362 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/it's/its/ < 1205618402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: case/esac is portable, rihgt? < 1205618406 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1205618412 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in POSIX sh IIRC < 1205618428 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, nobody would use that syntax otherwise ;-) < 1205618534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : _hash_"$1"_$(md5 "$2")="$3" < 1205618536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my 'set' < 1205618536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1205618550 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why do you keep putting $1, etc., in double quotes? < 1205618552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I broke it so hard when adding concurrency it even fails mycology/sanity.bf when compiling with -DCONCURRENT_FUNGE *debugs* < 1205618556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm. good point < 1205618557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paranoia :| < 1205618562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep thinking about it in terms of rewrites < 1205618571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, XD < 1205618572 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if they contain embedded spaces you're going to be in trouble anyway < 1205618577 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: :-) < 1205618596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I got no clue why it only prints sanity up to 7 atm < 1205618699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm i actually need no hashtable initialization < 1205618709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: since it's purely virtual and there is no 'hashtable object' < 1205618710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coool < 1205618837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : eval "echo \$"$(echo _hash_$2_$(cgi_md5 "$3")) < 1205618840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that could be prettier < 1205618885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : eval "echo $"_hash_$2_$(cgi_md5 "$3") < 1205618888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the nicest i can get it < 1205618911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why am I wasting my time on this? < 1205618924 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asked you that a while ago
< 1205619141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwtf < 1205619149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what < 1205619163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm adding concurrency to cfunge < 1205619166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some problems < 1205619235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in unrelated parts < 1205619237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1205619273 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: your problem is clearly insufficient setjmp < 1205619288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, harhar < 1205619293 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because C-INTERCAL's threading works fine, at least on the programs that people have managed to think up so far < 1205619325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, it seems I get some memory corruption somewhere or something, because something totally unrelated breaks < 1205619334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie, funge-space < 1205619338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although half the times I think up a new and unusual way to use it it segfaults, normally in a way that left me wondering why it worked on everything else because I'd made an obvious typo < 1205619343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not changed, yet it breaks by concurrency < 1205619354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well. it isn't actually threading after all < 1205619364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just looping instruction pointers < 1205619372 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise on C-INTERCAL < 1205619374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not looked I threaded the interpreter itself < 1205619385 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that has several complications the way I've done it < 1205619394 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a simple straightforward INTERCAL interpreter is no fun < 1205619404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it even breaks on single threads now :/ < 1205619416 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 0 or a negative number of threads? < 1205619426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, current IP = 0 < 1205619434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked that < 1205619442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that bit works, the issue is elsewhere < 1205619620 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1205619790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so as it turns out trying to glue peices of software together to make a semi-framework isn't pretty < 1205619798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actually using stuff is pretty < 1205619801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how suprising < 1205620221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm shocked that nobody else is suprised. < 1205620242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, huh? < 1205620269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was afk
< 1205620443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: :) < 1205620463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it? < 1205620467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lacks context
< 1205620650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders the irony of having a stack allocated on the heap
< 1205620868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh found it, I referenced once too many times < 1205620979 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1205621078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, wow, this is pretty < 1205621092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming that instructions without any particular concurrency-related behaviour, such as ^>v<#, take one tick. < 1205621092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will continue to produce textual output, so strings must work correctly where concurrency is concerned: "a b" should take 5 ticks, 'a should take 1. < 1205621092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GGGGGGOGOGOGOGOGOGOOGOOGOOGOOGOOGOODGOODGOODGOODGOODGOODGO:ODGO:ODGO:ODGO:ODGO < 1205621101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, that's good I assume? :D < 1205621102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1205621241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BABABABDBDBABABBDBBABBDBABDDD < 1205621343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, found it, ip didn't move correctly after split < 1205621351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it split and split and split and so on < 1205621365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thread stayed on t spawning new threads all the time < 1205621366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1205621389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfunge: /home/arvid/src/cfunge08/src/stack.c:89: StackPush: Assertion `stack != ((void *)0)' failed. < 1205621393 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks
< 1205621431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1205621447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes on to execute after thread finished :/ < 1205621480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how come perl manages to all look the same < 1205621488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when all I've learnt about it I've learnt from your pastes <.< < 1205621498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :low barrier to entry i guess < 1205621518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: because people are so unused to seeing anything that looks like perl, except maybe shell-script < 1205621546 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like seeing people from a culture you aren't used to; they're all so different from you in terms of appearance, you find them hard to find apart whereas they can tell themselves apart quite easily < 1205621580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, now you are just being weird :P < 1205621586 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about all perl alike < 1205621592 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no racist, but all Malbolge programs look alike to me < 1205621596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen readable perl < 1205621607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, but indeed most perl looks like line noise < 1205621610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well hey, a quote management system as my second perl app may be... a little ambitious < 1205621623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, to it in python < 1205621628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or C < 1205621642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, or do it in perl but use Inline::C < 1205621645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs
< 1205621667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I was doing it in python, the first two times < 1205621677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First with a DIY framework, then with Spyce < 1205621680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that failed? < 1205621687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to try Pylons, web.py &co but cba because I don't like frameworks like that < 1205621690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You betcha < 1205621692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, try twisted? < 1205621702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Can I say 'please die in a fire' here? :< < 1205621709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I never used it < 1205621712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :twisted for a web app is the most awful idea i've heard of < 1205621712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever < 1205621727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I thought there was twisted HTTP or something? < 1205621738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is twisted for writing http servers? < 1205621798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ? < 1205621816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, look try php or python < 1205621827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just use an existing software < 1205621886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: php heh < 1205621896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I just told you I tried Python *twice* < 1205621906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and twisted.web does exist, but eek. < 1205621914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and using an existing software is so not cool ;) < 1205621954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "PTTH"4( < 1205621990 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a fingerprint? I thought it was SOCK < 1205622015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not an existing one no < 1205622025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, SOCK does exist < 1205622040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why not an HTTP server framework for befunge? < 1205622070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not indeed < 1205622082 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a CGI script written in INTERCAL, after all < 1205622088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if it's still online
< 1205622098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, some nice ideas btw: BOOP = Befunge Object Object Orientated Programming Extension < 1205622106 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what do you think? < 1205622118 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: interesting < 1205622122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, no idea how < 1205622192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hmm, why is OOP in perl ugly as hell < 1205622196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooo much boilerplate < 1205622203 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I don't like Perl OOP either < 1205622220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Though this looks interesting < 1205622221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://search.cpan.org/~stevan/Moose-0.40/lib/Moose.pm < 1205622237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/intercal/ins/insstart.html < 1205622340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: when I saw the intercal spec < 1205622347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was so extensive that i thought it would be pretty substantial < 1205622349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if esoteric < 1205622356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it really has very little stuff.. < 1205622358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fancy syntax. < 1205622364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: have you seen my improved spec? < 1205622372 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's linked from http://intercal.freeshell.org < 1205622382 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :support for things like multithreading, operand overloading, and so on < 1205622391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLC-INTERCAL, linked from the same site, has even more < 1205622403 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its spec is simply a delta from INTERCAL-72 and yet still fills several pages < 1205622481 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL has come along a long way from the old days < 1205622493 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I challenge anyone to understand WHILE at the first attempt, for instance) < 1205622752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarg, that INTERCAL CGI script stores information in the /names/ of elements < 1205622765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :

< 1205622834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'use RatsAss;' is a vaguely disturbing line < 1205622839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but even the basic stuff < 1205623003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, how i love the fact that html 4.01 lets me omit / and other cruft < 1205623026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1205623071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: there are two schools of thought about HTML < 1205623084 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one goes on to create XHTML, where a single typo blanks your page < 1205623090 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other goes on to create HTML 5 < 1205623106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has a DOCTYPE line of < 1205623116 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ! or ?, actually, I can never remember < 1205623125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it is way easier to code an XHTML interpreter than a HTML one < 1205623133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the point is it's the minimum number of characters needed to trip browser's compliance switches < 1205623134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because XHTML is more strict < 1205623144 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I actually favour XHTML over HTML < 1205623149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, good < 1205623182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not really < 1205623187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xhtml is step in the wrong direction < 1205623190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's more formal -- good < 1205623194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it retains *cruft* < 1205623201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, ehird, you belong to the /other/ school of thought < 1205623209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I used to be an XHTML weenie. < 1205623211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XHTML 1.1, even. < 1205623217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how was http://intercal.freeshell.org/ick-0.27/index.htm generated I wonder < 1205623225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems familiar < 1205623229 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INFO style? < 1205623229 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: texinfo < 1205623229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: texinfo < 1205623232 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1205623239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with custom modifications < 1205623244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, you SHOULD serve xhtml as application/xml+xhtml, but IE dies on this) < 1205623244 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try hovering the URLs, for instance < 1205623250 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're 8.3 format for DOS-compatibility < 1205623254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yeah doesn't look that the ones on gnu.org < 1205623262 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm using my own stylesheet < 1205623275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, weird names yes < 1205623277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's some custom hacking of the TOC and some of the headings < 1205623281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you made C-INTERCAL? < 1205623286 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1205623290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm the current maintainer < 1205623293 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1205623303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what is the weird filenames for < 1205623305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, why < 1205623329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for DOS compatibility, of course < 1205623342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ok.... why DOS compatibility? < 1205623349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why on earth would anyone care about that? < 1205623357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: c-intercal supports DOS. < 1205623360 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because INTERCAL is compatible with a whole load of outdated technologies < 1205623367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DJGPP is one of the maintained targets for C-INTERCAL < 1205623376 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which (apart from cygwin) is the only way to run it on Windows < 1205623382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know at least one person who uses dos as his main system < 1205623388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :know in a loose sense - internetknow < 1205623394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh and what is the difference between CLC-INTERCAL and C-INTERCAL < 1205623401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what one is the "newest" < 1205623407 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they're two different implementations < 1205623410 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLC-INTERCAL is newer < 1205623416 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of when it was created < 1205623422 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're both actively maintained < 1205623424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: uuurgh, I want a StrictWarningsIronFist < 1205623430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it a package, it makes them all strict&warnings < 1205623435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, who maintains CLC then? < 1205623435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't have to type it all the goddamn time < 1205623471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Claudio Calvelli < 1205623482 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Wextra -Werror < 1205623483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1205623495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not here in this channel? < 1205623501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not right now < 1205623507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also are CLC and your one compatible? < 1205623509 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever seen him here < 1205623514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: to some extent < 1205623519 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm? < 1205623521 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each has features the other doesn't implement < 1205623532 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the ones that are implemented in both are mostly compatible < 1205623535 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is CLC an abbreviation for his name? < 1205623538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C-INTERCAL manual has a portability list < 1205623541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not sure, but probably < 1205623567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I comment on what each of the common commands does in each implementation < 1205623594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were two INTERCAL-72 implementations that used different syntaxes (the Princeton and Atari implementations) < 1205623602 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then C-INTERCAL, J-INTERCAL and CLC-INTERCAL < 1205623619 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :J-INTERCAL hasn't been updated in a while, and is just INTERCAL-72+COME FROM by label < 1205623620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :

Software error:

Quot.pm did not return a true value at index.cgi line 10.
< 1205623626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to put a true value at the end of my module? :|
< 1205623627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah
< 1205623655 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1205623661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Perl module traditionally ends 1;
< 1205623676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I find the fact that I have to put @EXPORT etc in BEGIN disturbing
< 1205623792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEGIN {
< 1205623792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  use vars(@EXPORT);
< 1205623792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  @EXPORT = qw(quot);
< 1205623792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :}
< 1205623797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faaar too verbose :D
< 1205623862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err
< 1205623878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add a qw in there
< 1205625051 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu