00:00:41 zzzzzzzzzzzzz 00:07:25 omg, there's a problem with the actual semantics, not the program 00:07:58 the problem is that i want objects to store state, but this effectively prevents recursion in certain cases 00:08:59 because i would have to start having my functions copy themselves as they evaluate, if they see they aren't unique in the program, and they start changing the namespace 00:09:07 actually, what's the problem, that's like 5 lines of code 00:09:17 can't you just have closures? 00:09:29 which close a mutable env 00:10:03 umm 00:10:17 a function is basically just that 00:10:24 -!- jix has quit ("CommandQ"). 00:10:25 except it also holds some code 00:10:36 (= test {(-> $get n) (-> n [])}) (test 5) (get test) <<< this should return 5, because test stores its state 00:10:53 with my current implementation, this meant a function that recursively calls itself actually *calls itself* 00:11:28 the other simple way is to store no state 00:11:43 in which case this example doesn't work, but recursion works easily 00:11:56 *means 00:12:36 so basically, the semantics require the runtime environment to detect recursion and copy namespaces. 00:12:44 i think 00:12:56 at least that's the simplest way i can think of to implement it 00:13:06 and it is simple, so there is really no prob 00:17:56 -!- AnMaster has quit (Connection timed out). 00:18:20 Oh, shoot, forgot to put bin2arr.c in the jsmips dir 8-O 00:18:40 -!- AnMaster has joined. 00:26:49 ehird: Massive failure :P 00:27:52 okay, dirtiest solution ever, but it works 00:28:12 an object checks if it on the call stack when it's evaluated, and it copies its namespace if it is 00:28:13 :-) 00:28:30 GregorR: Wanna see! 00:28:32 Linky! 00:28:34 quicksort works yay 00:30:27 http://www.vjn.fi/pb/p643464352.txt 00:30:44 that is especially ugly without infix 00:32:37 If I had to classify this code on a scale of 1 to WTF, I'd give it WTF 00:35:10 :-) 00:35:16 i think it's fairly clear 00:35:30 Oh, I see the issue. 00:35:30 what's wtf about it? 00:35:43 This won't work with MIPS -O0, because it loads the 'c' variable off the stack every time it uses it. 00:35:48 oh 00:35:55 "this code" 00:35:56 So it gets overwritten and then loads some garbage variable off the stack :P 00:36:10 read "that code" and assumed you meant mine 00:37:32 I said "this code" X-P 00:37:37 You should mark c as a register. 00:37:53 Or rather, mark all of those as registers :P 00:38:38 -!- seabot has joined. 00:39:00 Hmm 00:39:05 Bringing seabot in here wasn't the best idea 00:39:07 It uses ! as a prefix.. 00:39:10 Ergo: 00:39:11 !help 00:39:11 wtf is help? 00:39:13 err 00:39:14 help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon 00:39:16 That's not meant to happen 00:39:16 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl 00:39:17 :D 00:39:29 -!- seabot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:39:33 WTF /is/ help? 00:39:35 -!- seabot has joined. 00:39:36 !help 00:39:36 cdecl: cdecl 00:39:36 help: help 00:39:36 karma: karma- karma karma+ 00:39:38 meta: load reload unload 00:39:38 help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon 00:39:40 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl 00:39:57 !reload help 00:39:57 Reloaded the help plugin. 00:39:58 !help 00:39:58 cdecl: cdecl 00:39:58 help: help 00:39:58 karma: karma karma+ karma- 00:39:58 meta: load reload unload 00:39:59 I don't know whether MIPS is frozen, or writing over the stack is extremely slow for this emulator :P 00:40:00 help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon 00:40:02 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl 00:40:07 Hmm. 00:40:09 !karma- EgoBot 00:40:09 EgoBot's karma lowered to -1. 00:40:12 :) 00:40:12 Huh? 00:40:33 Oh fuck you, seabot. 00:41:01 heh 00:41:02 :D 00:41:09 -!- calamari has joined. 00:41:19 !cdecl int EgoBot 00:41:19 declare EgoBot as int 00:41:21 seabot's karma lowered to -∞. Yeah. That's right, bitch. 00:41:22 Huh? 00:41:24 !cdecl lame EgoBot 00:41:25 syntax error 00:41:26 aww 00:41:27 :) 00:41:28 Huh? 00:41:34 hi 00:41:37 hey 00:41:38 Hi calamari :P 00:42:26 -!- seabot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:42:31 -!- seabot has joined. 00:42:32 seabot will use @ for a prefix now 00:42:33 @help 00:42:34 cdecl: cdecl 00:42:34 help: help 00:42:34 karma: karma karma+ karma- 00:42:34 meta: load reload unload 00:42:59 GregorR: Will you like it if I make it use egobfi for interpreting brainfuck? ;) 00:43:21 Only if it also interprets: 00:43:22 !help 00:43:26 help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon 00:43:28 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl 00:43:37 GregorR: It's not just an esolang bolt. :-) 00:43:40 bot 00:43:45 Ah :P 00:44:23 'sea'bot shows its origins: a bot for ##free-c 00:44:25 which is about C 00:44:26 :p 00:44:29 (which is arguably an esolang) 00:44:36 !linguine 00:44:40 Error: Program must have at least one command 00:44:57 why does freenode need another C channel? 00:46:12 is it a sign of senility when you can't remember how to program in an esolang you wrote yourself? 00:46:27 vixey: there's only one: ##C 00:46:30 and ##C has PoppaVic 00:47:08 !linguine 1[0=72,0$,0+29,0$,0+7,0$,0$,0+3,0$,1=32,1$,0-24,0$,0+24,0$,0+3,0$,0-6,0$,0-8,0$,1+1,1$,1-23,1$]0 00:47:12 Hello World! 00:48:18 Gregor: what if a program is more than one line? 00:48:34 calamari: isn't whitespace ignord in linguine? 00:49:03 ehird: no 00:49:48 !linguine 1[]1 00:49:54 Error [line 1]: missing or invalid command 00:50:00 calamari: not if you're Ben Olmstead 00:50:09 !linguine 1[0=0]1 00:50:26 !ps 00:50:30 1 calamari: linguine 00:50:32 2 calamari: ps 00:50:43 !slow bots for $100 00:50:46 Huh? 00:52:01 !linguine 1[0=0]2\n2[0=0]0 00:52:06 Error [line 1]: bad jump line number `2\n2[0=0]0' 00:52:25 calamari: Upload it, specify a url 00:52:36 http://rafb.net/paste/ put it here, choose 'raw' 00:52:40 then !linguine THATURL 00:52:50 iirc, my esobot could handle multiple line input :) 00:53:03 !linguine http://rafb.net/p/2vhKkd81.txt 00:53:05 !ps 00:53:08 1 calamari: linguine 00:53:10 2 ehird: linguine 00:53:12 !kill 1 00:53:12 3 ehird: ps 00:53:13 seeeee 00:53:14 :) 00:53:14 Process 1 killed. 00:53:15 !kill 2 00:53:19 !kill 1 00:53:20 No such process! 00:53:22 Process 1 killed. 00:53:32 -!- oklopol has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 00:53:59 GregorR: Want a url for the thingy! 00:54:38 NO CAN GIVE, NOT WANT UPLOAD 00:54:42 !linguine http://rafb.net/p/o4spP929.txt 00:54:44 I'll email you the test.html if you want. 00:55:01 GregorR: Blargh :( 00:55:03 Come on :p 00:55:54 blah 00:56:14 !linguine http://rafb.net/p/EYRZBj28.txt 00:56:16 99 bottles of beer on the wall, 00:56:37 -!- oklopol has joined. 00:56:37 -!- oklopol has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:56:54 -!- oklopol has joined. 00:57:44 !ps 00:57:48 1 calamari: linguine 00:57:50 2 calamari: ps 00:58:46 interesting to be receiving output from an unlisted process :) 00:58:59 http://www.codu.org/jsmips/Nonworking%20Continuations.html 00:59:10 ehird: Enjoy watching the spinner spin. 01:00:25 cool, test.html crashed my firefox 01:01:21 Works fine in mine. 01:01:38 Firefox is in fact my test platform. 01:02:05 -!- ais523 has quit ("(1) DO COME FROM ".2~.2"~#1 WHILE :1 <- "'?.1$.2'~'"':1/.1$.2'~#0"$#65535'"$"'"'&.1$.2'~'#0$#65535'"$#0'~#32767$#1""). 01:02:37 yeah.. not sure why but ff crashes randomly for me.. tried it again and it was fine 01:03:04 I wonder if it has anything to do with running in 32-bit mode on the 64-bit kernel 01:03:18 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196442881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190914564856692346034 01:03:27 Wow 01:04:23 took about 9 minutes for that 01:06:17 Yeah, but I was also running JSMIPS X-P 01:06:25 you ported gcc, binutils, and newlib for your lang? 01:06:33 calamari: no 01:06:36 its not his instruction set 01:06:41 he is just implementing it in JS 01:06:46 and gcc already compiles to it 01:06:50 Because MIPS rulz. 01:07:16 ahh bummer.. was hoping someone understood gcc backends 01:07:46 oklopol: you will be interested in this! 01:07:55 oklopol: I wrote a python function that takes a python 1 liner and expands it 01:07:59 usable for e.g. bots 01:08:03 it uses one syntax extension 01:08:10 after a block thing like 'if foo:' 01:08:13 if it sees { 01:08:19 that means 'newline and increase indentation' 01:08:22 yarrrr 01:08:23 calamari: I once spent all of ten minutes trying to port GCC to MISC, then went "NOPE" and quit. 01:08:25 if it sees the matching }, that means 'drop identation' 01:08:26 so 01:08:41 if foo: { if bar: { print "hi" } else: { print "bye" } } else: { print "wtf"; 2+2 } 01:08:43 GregorR: yeah GCC is a pita 01:08:51 but it is clever, so it doesn't break dict syntax or strings 01:08:54 ehird: why the :'s 01:09:02 oklopol: because {} can be dictionary syntax 01:09:03 ":" always means indentation 01:09:07 right. 01:09:11 ah 01:09:11 well 01:09:13 if foo: ... } 01:09:14 looks ugly 01:09:15 :D 01:09:20 a bit 01:09:21 + its easier to parse this way 01:09:26 yep 01:13:00 World's most obscure insult: "I'm sure you've read the manual page on checking filesystems." 01:13:06 hahah 01:13:14 oklopol: i'll show you the function 01:13:18 oklopol: but it's REALLY REALLY UGLY 01:13:19 :D 01:13:23 do 01:13:29 oklopol: http://rafb.net/p/GoqPxY60.txt 01:13:40 wow that's long 01:13:46 my oklotalk-- parser is shorter :-) 01:13:51 usage: 01:13:54 make_1liner(string) 01:14:03 python-oneliner-thingy in, python code out 01:14:42 oh, iterative solution 01:14:51 GregorR: not sure what the simplest target is that gcc supports, but one possibility is taking the asm output and compiling that for the desired lang 01:15:11 calamari: Probably MIPS I, and yeah, MIPS->MISC wouldn't actually be too tough. 01:15:14 oklopol: can't do it via regexps 01:15:17 oklopol: its really the only way 01:15:31 i meant iterative versus recursive 01:16:16 GregorR: in any case I know it's not x86 :) 01:17:37 oklopol: ah 01:17:44 recursive would just be manual iterative in this case 01:18:26 what? 01:18:50 oklopol: I mean, i'd just end up emulating the stuff I have in my iterative version 01:18:56 i.e. manually transforming it into recursive form 01:19:01 that is, it has no natural recursive form 01:19:05 apart from translating the iterative form 01:19:12 8| 01:19:17 a-ha.. 01:19:19 lessee 01:19:39 oklopol: hmm 01:19:40 in my bot 01:19:47 should declarations persist across @pythons? 01:19:48 like 01:19:50 @python a = 2 01:19:51 @python a 01:19:51 wtf is python? 01:19:55 gives you 2 01:19:55 yeah 01:20:06 oklopol: should it persist across bot runs? :D 01:20:17 in my opinion yes, because it's nice and floody to be able to use a bot as a repl 01:20:21 shhure: D 01:20:33 oklopol: should the bindings be per-user or for everyone? 01:20:37 hmm 01:20:54 you could do something fun like have _XXX be for personal use 01:20:56 except 01:21:02 you'd need to parse the code 01:21:03 heh 01:21:12 _something_here that was 01:21:25 oklopol: 'my' (from perl) 01:21:27 my x = 2 01:21:28 ;D 01:21:41 you can get: 01:21:43 my_x = 2 01:21:44 though 01:21:56 oklopol: oh, i know! 01:22:02 hmm, actually shouldn't be hard to do storing based on name 01:22:04 user-specific, but you can access others bindings 01:22:10 how? 01:22:14 calamari.x 01:22:19 Sgeo.psox_variable 01:22:19 something like that 01:22:24 haha 01:22:25 probably more like: 01:22:27 Wha? 01:22:41 bindings.Sgeo.psox_variable 01:22:45 wait, I'll hijack _ for that 01:22:48 Sgeo: oklopol: /.*/ -> you don't get it -> don't need to 01:22:48 _.Sgeo.psox_variable 01:23:07 oklopol: so you can doo: 01:23:13 doo doo 01:23:14 weird_func = _.oklopol.weird_func 01:23:32 mmyappy. 01:23:36 We're having a public Python bot and we can store variables there under our name? 01:23:37 looks okay 01:23:48 Sgeo: something like that, except not yet. 01:23:48 Sgeo: seabot will execute python, yeah 01:24:20 "Frontends vary internally, having to produce trees that can be handled by the backend. The parsers are hand-coded recursive descent parsers." 01:25:10 funny that they don 01:25:13 't use bison 01:25:36 oklopol: instead of _, users 01:25:40 users.oklopol.weird_func 01:31:16 -!- seabot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:31:33 -!- seabot has joined. 01:31:37 @python 2 01:31:37 UnpickleableError: Cannot pickle objects 01:31:40 Darnit. 01:33:07 @reload python 01:33:07 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:33:10 @python 2 01:33:10 2 01:33:12 @python 2+2 01:33:12 4 01:33:14 @python print 'hi' 01:33:14 SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 01:33:29 @reload python 01:33:29 AttributeError: 'dict' object has no attribute 'close' 01:33:30 @python print 'hi' 01:33:30 SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 01:33:32 @reload python 01:33:33 AttributeError: 'dict' object has no attribute 'close' 01:33:40 @reload python 01:33:40 AttributeError: 'dict' object has no attribute 'close' 01:33:44 -!- seabot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:33:50 -!- seabot has joined. 01:33:52 @python print 'hi' 01:33:52 SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 01:34:35 @python print 'hi' 01:34:35 SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 01:34:37 Weird.. 01:34:45 @reload python 01:34:45 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:34:46 @python print 'hi' 01:34:46 SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 01:34:57 @reload python 01:34:58 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:34:58 @python print 'hi' 01:34:58 SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 01:35:31 @reload python 01:35:31 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:35:32 @python print 'hi' 01:35:32 SyntaxError: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (, line 1) 01:35:48 @reload python 01:35:49 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:35:49 @python print 'hi' 01:35:50 NameError: global name 'special' is not defined 01:35:58 @python sucks 01:35:58 NameError: global name 'special' is not defined 01:36:01 @reload python 01:36:02 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:36:03 >O< 01:36:07 vixey: justify that 01:36:09 @python 'hi' 01:36:13 @python print 'hi' 01:36:13 AttributeError: 'MagicGlobals' object has no attribute '_print_' 01:36:16 ehird: forced indentation of code 01:36:32 vixey: sooo.. give me a use case for not indenting code 01:36:39 during editing 01:36:51 your editor must be horrible 01:37:15 I've used lots of editors ... 01:37:55 @reload python 01:37:55 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:37:56 @python 'hi' 01:38:07 hm 01:38:08 @python 2 01:38:08 2 01:38:10 Very odd 01:38:19 @reload python 01:38:19 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:38:20 @python 2 01:38:20 2 01:38:23 @python 'a' 01:38:46 @python {} 01:38:46 {} 01:38:51 @python if 1: { 2 } 01:38:51 2 01:38:55 @python if 1: { 2 } else: { 3 } 01:38:55 SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 3) 01:38:59 hm, oh 01:39:58 @reload python 01:39:58 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:40:00 @python if 1: { 2 } else: { 3 } 01:40:00 AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'start' 01:40:39 @reload python 01:40:39 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:40:40 @python if 1: { 2 } else: { 3 } 01:40:40 2 01:40:47 @python if 1: { print 'hello world'; 2+2 } else: { 3 } 01:40:47 AttributeError: 'MagicGlobals' object has no attribute '_print_' 01:41:21 -!- vixey has quit ("Leaving"). 01:42:10 @reload python 01:42:10 SyntaxError: invalid syntax (python.py, line 82) 01:42:43 @reload python 01:42:43 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:42:45 @python if 1: { print 'hello world'; 2+2 } else: { 3 } 01:42:45 AttributeError: 'cStringIO.StringO' object has no attribute 'strip' 01:44:15 @reload python 01:44:15 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:44:16 @python if 1: { print 'hello world'; 2+2 } else: { 3 } 01:44:16 AttributeError: 'cStringIO.StringO' object has no attribute 'strip' 01:44:29 @reload python 01:44:29 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:44:30 @python if 1: { print 'hello world'; 2+2 } else: { 3 } 01:44:30 hello world 01:44:36 @python 2+2 01:44:39 @python 2+2 01:44:42 ah. 01:46:08 @reload python 01:46:09 Reloaded the python plugin. 01:46:09 @python 2+2 01:46:10 4 01:46:16 @python if 1: { print 'hello world'; 2+2 } else: { 3 } 01:46:16