< 1210896085 0 :Tritonio!n=tritonio@150.140.227.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1210896741 0 :Tritonio_!n=tritonio@150.140.227.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1210896743 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210897293 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1210897617 0 :timotiis_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1210898388 0 :coffeemug!n=coffeemu@pool-70-107-17-5.ny325.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1210898413 0 :coffeemug!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1210898786 0 :travisbrady!n=travisbr@office.mochimedia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1210898796 0 :travisbrady!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1210899645 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1210899979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: FOR whooboy in #ircnomic? :3 < 1210900005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Or you. :P < 1210900008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll Hug you! < 1210900011 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR Nice try. < 1210900038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :( < 1210900041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whyy? < 1210900048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's cool. < 1210900058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's a scam involving ihope's unfortunate contract-joking! < 1210900066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And I'll Hug you fifty times. < 1210900073 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1210900083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Hug awards a point < 1210900084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1210900110 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many points for a blowjob? < 1210900129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Beats me. < 1210900129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I hug ihope x 1,000,000. < 1210900129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yay, I have 1,000,005 points. < 1210900152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can give people as many points as I want, and then even though I'm in the negatives by far, I can just fail at a Double or Nothing to get back to 0. < 1210900206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I hug ihope x A(g_64,g_64) where A is the ackermann function and g_64 Graham's number. < 1210900298 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides not to put any money in Zimbabwe dollars
< 1210900352 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think #ircnomic points have higher value :D < 1210900372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: quite < 1210900381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :join #ircnomic and I'll give you crazy amounts < 1210900536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no? ;) < 1210900691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK, how about this. I will give you an absurd amount of points (number of your choosing) if you join #ircnomic and say 'FOR evil'. < 1210900777 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you must have misunderstood my comment. i did not say i considered #ircnomic points to have high value :/ < 1210900814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh I know < 1210900817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to bribe you < 1210901288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: plzzz < 1210901291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 3 minutes to go < 1210901292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::<< < 1210901298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: This is even an interesting scam < 1210901346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pleeeez < 1210901467 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1210901921 0 :Slereah-!n=gtuilt@ANantes-252-1-90-212.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1210901922 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210902543 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1210905089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<< < 1210905090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "Legend of Z.e.l.d.a."? < 1210905090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "NES"? < 1210905090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edit: not kidding... < 1210905090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> < 1210905092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- reddit comment < 1210905547 0 :atsampso1!n=ats@7hw.poik.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1210905603 0 :atsampson!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210908049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye for today :-) < 1210908129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210908183 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1210912951 0 :revcompgeek!i=42ec44fd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1967dc8d64716480 JOIN :#esoteric < 1210913210 0 :revcompgeek!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1210915249 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1210919488 0 :oklofyug!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1210920140 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1210921116 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night all < 1210921157 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1210924799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1210924800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1210924944 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-179-016.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1210926038 0 :Iskr!n=i@host195-82-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1210926720 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210926732 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/imgs/win3plusplus.png // CONSIDER YOUR MINDS BLOWN < 1210926848 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1210933036 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-70-58.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1210933058 0 :Phenax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :SendQ exceeded < 1210937638 0 :atsampso1!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :atsampson < 1210938915 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210939676 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pop quiz! "Thy" is olde english for "your"... How does one say "I"? Particularly "I am fine" or "I'm OK" < 1210940719 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1210941411 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210941436 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1210941942 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1210947709 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1210948803 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210948820 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1210951355 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210952598 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you made a new window manager? < 1210952704 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spiffy. < 1210952761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corun needs to beware: "Thy" is the second person plural possesive. . . And that's Early Modern English, not Old English. < 1210952791 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :('thy', in the typical romanisation of Old English, would be pronounced something like "thth") < 1210952985 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia is of the opinion that thy is singular < 1210952996 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou#Declension < 1210953007 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brain is of the opinion that I got "thy" and "you" screwed up. < 1210953015 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1210953049 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also of the opinion that. . . WHOHOO! HIGH SCHOOL IS OVER!!! < 1210953550 0 :oklofyug!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MINE TOO!!!! < 1210953560 0 :oklofyug!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1210953581 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i don't really see it as that great, i keep thinking how much of a waste it was < 1210954586 0 :nopolie!n=nopolie@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1210954766 0 :nopolie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210955161 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.112.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1210955540 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@adsl-99-154-11-184.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1210956706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1210956740 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1210957069 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1210957347 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1210957777 0 :BMeph!n=chatzill@wsip-70-167-169-169.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1210957947 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ar02-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210958294 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I need to reboot" < 1210958494 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ar02-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210959857 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1210959857 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1210959914 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@143.248.133.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1210959914 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1210960023 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client terminated by server" < 1210960024 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1210960636 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1210960752 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1210960752 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1210960769 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ar02-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210960893 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1210960893 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@143.248.133.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1210960900 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client terminated by server" < 1210960900 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1210961199 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1210961209 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1210962549 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210962555 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ar02-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210962704 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210962726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1210962730 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1210963042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210963043 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210963068 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1210963921 0 :timotiis_!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1210964432 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1210964773 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1210965899 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1210970788 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210970824 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ar02-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210970832 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys- who's seen this? < 1210970845 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wanna help me take a crack at this puzzle? http://www.pixabug.com/aliens/fnalcodeletter_sanesize.jpg < 1210970850 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: that's out of context < 1210970857 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently this was faxed to fermilab < 1210970867 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably a hoax < 1210970881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks creepy < 1210970893 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't mean it isn't fun to try to decode it < 1210970903 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it has no decode < 1210970931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe it does < 1210970938 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my initial thoughts: ternary block, hex/symbol correlation, what appears to be interpretable as "SFC" and then a binary block < 1210970974 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured that if anybody could solve it, it'd be the crowd here in #Esoteric < 1210970982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: it does look creepy though < 1210971096 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a textual version to play with: http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1210967467.html < 1210971115 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: any thoughts? < 1210971175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: it's still creepy < 1210971175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1210971188 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The symbols are interesting- I can identify an "i", a phi symbol, a subtraction sign and something that resembles a greater-than sign < 1210971201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is so nothing to do with aliens < 1210971206 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you guys assign meaning to any of the other symbols? < 1210971221 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wouldn't be using our symbols for those things, and if they were, they would have said something more intelligible < 1210971222 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it's much more likely to be some fermilab recruiting ploy. :) < 1210971241 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to my way of thinking, it's just a fun puzzle < 1210971253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not alien related < 1210971257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not least because aliens wouldn't fax. < 1210971264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is _is_ mildly creepy, imo < 1210971280 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a trailhead for an ARG! :D < 1210971303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Fermiargggggggg < 1210971320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: where'dj00 find this? < 1210971329 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /. < 1210971352 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION came across the Slashdot homepage with /two/ articles with no comments on
< 1210971357 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means it'll be solved in a few hours if it's possible, which is why we should try before the fun is spilled < 1210971360 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was disappointed that there were no comments to read < 1210971365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably the wrong reaction... < 1210971530 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1210971557 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why are you being such a spoilsport today? You're usually all over puzzles and the like < 1210971591 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@ar02-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210971594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210971603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: I think he thinks we believe it means anything < 1210971607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to merely be ing interesting < 1210971615 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm firmly in the latter camp < 1210971639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*being < 1210971639 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it ends up being "DRINK MORE OVALTINE" it can be loads of fun < 1210971666 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the hex is a decryption key of some kind? < 1210971695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : even if it ends up being "DRINK MORE OVALTINE" it can be loads of fun < 1210971700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1210971702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no words < 1210971703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU WIN < 1210971717 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1210971730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: that was brilliant < 1210971739 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok < 1210971873 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I guess we aren't all going to spend the evening feverishly working on this? < 1210972120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: maybe < 1210972206 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ar02-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210972216 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: connection issues? < 1210972242 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1210972249 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wireless here is dodgy < 1210972261 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how did ais523_ end up here? < 1210972285 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1210972287 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been reverse-ghosted before, and I don't remember having been logged on as ais523_ today for more than a few minutes at a time < 1210972292 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1210972297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ais523_ (n=ais523@ar02-fap02.bham.ac.uk) has joined #esoteric < 1210972297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ais523 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) < 1210972297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : RodgerTheGreat: I think he thinks we believe it means anything < 1210973618 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1210974302 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210974364 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Not a new window manager, that's Windows. < 1210974373 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hunh < 1210974398 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/imgs/win3plusplus.png (for those who missed it before) < 1210974409 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this imply you somehow recompiled a 16-bit version of firefox, or did you transplant explorer onto a newer OS? < 1210974424 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither. < 1210974436 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :potatochop? < 1210974446 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the title bar to progman :P < 1210974457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Slow website is slow. < 1210974470 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Not slow for me *shrugs*\ < 1210974511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Wow. < 1210974519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you ... ported Progman? < 1210974532 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1210974538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, there was a progman port in Windows 95. Not sure if anyone ever used it, though < 1210974541 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA HA HA. Mind blowing. < 1210974547 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Not '95. < 1210974553 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is to say, that's not '95. < 1210974558 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1210974560 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor did I transplant progman :P < 1210974568 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, it would appear you made windows more hideous than usual. good show. < 1210974572 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the djbash implies that that's a DJGPP version of bash, so it's running as protected-mode DOS < 1210974583 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the firefox window some sort of VPN? < 1210974586 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1210974590 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running natively. < 1210974590 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything there makes sense but the firefox window < 1210974597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: well, that progman is definately running under nt < 1210974598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1210974600 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you didn't set Firefox as your desktop background? < 1210974600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it's windows nt < 1210974602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it < 1210974604 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DING < 1210974613 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NT 3 - the NT everybody forgot :P < 1210974622 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the first Windows that supported Win32, and so will run Firefox. < 1210974630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very cool. < 1210974644 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said earlier that I thought you took the 3.1 explorer and grafted it onto another windows version. I saw someone do a similar trick on windows 98SE < 1210974675 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: But there's no grafting involved - NT 3 /shipped/ with progman ala 3.11. < 1210974692 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Windows 3.1 could run Win32 via Win32s. ;) < 1210974695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was the name 'explorer.exe' first used? Win95? < 1210974695 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hunh. wtf indeed < 1210974704 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I remember Win32s < 1210974706 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never used it < 1210974710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have manuals for it somewhere < 1210974711 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The 's' is for 'subset', which means it won't run most anything at all :P < 1210974719 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: progman.exe, IIRC, was dropped circa Windows XP. < 1210974719 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer to call my explorer "Finder". :) < 1210974728 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think NT 4 predates '95 by a bit, I may be wrong. < 1210974731 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: It runs Firefox 1.x < 1210974739 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the name "explorer" is used in NT 4. < 1210974746 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: DOUBLE-U TEE EF? Really? < 1210974780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, explorer.exe was first used in an optional addon to NT 3. < 1210974801 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This optional addon provided you the Win95-style UI instead of the Program Manager. < 1210974801 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, newshell :) < 1210974852 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the "Shell Technology Preview". < 1210974863 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows NT 3.51, to be exact. < 1210974885 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Windows 95 came out before Windows NT 4. < 1210974888 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yay, Wikipedia) < 1210974916 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfffft, looking things up :P < 1210974918 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anybody ever use DOSSHELL? Damn, I loved that app < 1210975016 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely remember its existence :P < 1210975029 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: I read a manual for that too < 1210975050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You read manuals for software you don't use. < 1210975060 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dosshell is actually a lot like mc < 1210975079 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.compu-seite.de/bilder/dos62/dosshell1.gif < 1210975109 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a wonderful interface when all you have is a keyboard < 1210975147 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: ... so is bash ;) < 1210975157 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... So is the Midnight Commander. < 1210975162 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, COMMAND.COM is no bash, dude < 1210975170 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, command.com sucks much face. < 1210975172 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, yeah, Command.com sucks ass. < 1210975185 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NT 3's command interpreter is a bit better, but still doesn't have tab completion. < 1210975190 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It has history at least) < 1210975215 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, the command.com in FreeDOS is quite a bit better. < 1210975240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wait < 1210975244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :command.com sucks face AND as < 1210975245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1210975252 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sucks everything. < 1210975344 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its only marketable skill is to suck. < 1210975355 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, FreeDOS command.com is awesome. < 1210975364 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By comparison) < 1210975378 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, there are some bugs in cmd.exe that Windows command.com doesn't have < 1210975394 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't parse that sentence.
< 1210975531 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, (there are (some ((bugs in cmd.exe) that ((Windows command.com) doesn't have)))) < 1210975561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would solve all this notation polish. < 1210975579 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: now, I can't parse /that/ alleged-sentence... < 1210975580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for few minutes let's talk like this. < 1210975589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "polish notation would solve all this" < 1210975596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: predicate, followed by arguments < 1210975605 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish notation fails with variable arity... < 1210975635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not like english isn't ambigious already < 1210975650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let's just do this (ha! works that) < 1210975667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how today you? < 1210975708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting puzzle 's RodgerTheGreat. < 1210975731 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you should just write in Latin, most simple sentences have the same meaning when you anagram them < 1210975737 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the word level, that is < 1210975742 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not does take this into account prepositions < 1210975742 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perligata has the same property < 1210975815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: so what < 1210976046 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1210976077 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1210976127 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Variable arity Polish notation is fairly simple. Every variable arity function has, as its first argument, its number of arguments. :p < 1210976143 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it should be the last argument instead, that would be confusing < 1210976157 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to figure out whether that would be ambiguous
< 1210976167 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: of course it would be ambiguous < 1210976179 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ 1 2 3 < 1210976190 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unambiguous because it ends with the 3 < 1210976209 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's actually (+ 1 2) 3 < 1210976211 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's ambiguous if you don't know where the expression ends, but if you do, I'm not as sure < 1210976212 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it puts two numbers on the stack < 1210976227 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1210976230 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I was assuming that the stack ends up empty < 1210976233 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it's still ambiguous < 1210976246 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's what I would think too, but I can't think of an example < 1210976277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... do the numbers-of-arguments have to be constants? < 1210976409 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1210976600 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:22] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-PING request to ais523. < 1210976600 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:23] [CTCP] Received CTCP-PING request from ais523, sending answer. < 1210976600 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:23] [CTCP] Received CTCP-PING reply from ais523: 32 seconds. < 1210976609 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can well imagine that I somehow missed something in that < 1210976610 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I? < 1210976634 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not unless you missed my "hm..." < 1210976642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I got the hm... < 1210976838 0 :BMeph!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Time for me to go home" < 1210977359 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait of course. + + 1 2 3 + 1 2 3 3 can parse in two ways < 1210977374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of coures < 1210977377 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/es/se/ < 1210977441 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um actually that's a bit inconsistent < 1210977450 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the count include itself < 1210977477 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, + + 1 2 3 + 1 2 3 4 < 1210977501 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, + + 0 1 2 + 0 1 2 3 < 1210977505 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way? < 1210977505 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1210977520 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ar02-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210977526 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the count included in the arguments counted < 1210977542 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably < 1210977547 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what a literal reading would say < 1210977563 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't make a difference if it isn't, because the numbers could just be all reduced by 1 < 1210979708 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-055-060.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1210979796 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1210980968 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1210981004 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1210981007 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1210981149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1210981309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bacq. < 1210981412 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bach? < 1210981444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm... do the numbers-of-arguments have to be constants? < 1210981450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable argc prefix = wow < 1210981455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you get TCness that way? < 1210981456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :application: < 1210981459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :func^argc(...) < 1210981461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1210981464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :func^argc ... < 1210981467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but argc can be an arbitary expr < 1210981468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1210981469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make that < 1210981470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :func argc ... < 1210981477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure youi can get TCness from that.