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00:35:51 <Ilari> AFAIK, with SMP you can get one process using >100% CPU as well...
00:39:44 <Phenax> if u dont send dis mesage to 40 ppl be4 u go to bed a monster will eat u when u sleep i am not jking
00:40:31 <oklopol> IT'S A VIRUS DUCK AND COVER
00:40:57 <oerjan> That's it, if I get eaten by a monster tonight YOU WILL HEAR FROM MY LAWYER
00:42:50 <tusho> lament: kickban Phenax already
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00:44:55 <tusho> lament: you forgot the kick part
00:45:07 <lament> that's not a good mask, is it?
00:45:11 <lament> it has his name in it.
00:45:26 <tusho> lament: *!*@* pretty foolproof
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00:46:36 <lament> no, really, what's the best mask
00:47:09 <tusho> lament: you can't be foolproof
00:47:10 <lament> i guess this should suffice for now
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00:47:57 <lament> tusho: why don't i ban his entire fucking country
00:48:07 <tusho> which country is that
00:48:16 <tusho> if so, then please
00:48:54 <lament> his IP is from Houston, Texas
00:49:01 <oklopol> yeah, americans are such idiots
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00:49:24 <oklopol> i've seen *.fi banned twice
00:49:31 <oklopol> actually once, and once almost
00:49:55 <lament> canadian broadband is actually banned consistently on foreign servers
00:50:14 <lament> i've been auto-banned on all russian and israeli irc servers i tried to join
00:51:23 <tusho> i wonder what the best country to ban is
00:52:14 <Ilari> My run-ins with IRC restrictions (not a lot of use) involved +R on one channel, getting repetedly deopped by chanserv on other, and one blanket K-line...
00:52:52 <Ilari> Oh, and one server breaking connection.
00:54:02 <Ilari> Oh, and self-kill-by-ghost... That was quite funky.
00:54:34 <tusho> i've k-lined myself before
00:55:23 <Ilari> As in issued /kline that matched yourself as well?
00:55:52 <tusho> no, as in literally /kline tusho
00:57:14 <tusho> i had to get another ircop to de-kline me
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04:11:32 <augur> how can i help you
04:14:25 <Slereah_> Is the Chainsaw dude still around?
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05:00:47 <augur> dont know who that is
05:02:19 <augur> theres noone there named chainsaw that i can see
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05:42:24 <evincar> Blurg. I'm back after a ridiculously long absence.
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05:43:50 <evincar> Hi. I don't think we've met.
05:45:23 <evincar> Well, it *has* been a while, then.
05:45:47 <evincar> I think the last time I was here I was making Alchemy and...
05:45:51 <evincar> blast, what was that other one?
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05:57:03 <evincar> So what's new in the eso world?
05:57:17 <evincar> As previously implied, I've been out of it a spell.
06:22:18 <augur> oklopol and i are making what tusho/ehird SWEARS is an esolang but which i dont think is an esolang
06:24:49 <Slereah_> And I'm not making an interpreter for my awesome esolang, for some reason.
06:27:19 <Slereah_> Oh, there's the new eso website
06:27:52 <Slereah_> With this : http://forum.eso-std.org/
06:27:54 <Slereah_> And this : http://code.eso-std.org/
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06:52:42 <evincar> augur: what's the deal, then? Link me up or give me a rundown.
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10:16:04 <Bishopshate> http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Lenski_dialog
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10:35:16 <Slereah> "Lenski's reply in a nutshell, once all the talk pollution and ad hominem attacks are removed: No, I will not give you my raw data or my E. Coli samples, not to you or any other non-Darwinist."
10:35:24 <Slereah> The talk page is made of gold
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11:37:52 <KingOfKarlsruhe> text into brainf*ck converter written in Python http://paste.pocoo.org/show/77688/
11:38:37 <AnMaster> in this channel you can write out the u for the programming language name ;P
11:39:14 <AnMaster> KingOfKarlsruhe, oh it generates a program which outputs the text?
11:39:37 * AnMaster is C coder, not a python coder
11:39:42 <KingOfKarlsruhe> AnMaster: the german text="Hallo Welt" convert into Brainfuck
11:40:04 <AnMaster> well I'm from Sweden and don't speak german
11:40:27 <AnMaster> but an obvious enchantment would be to read the text from a text file
11:42:47 <AnMaster> KingOfKarlsruhe, you may want to make it purely English, it is the common language for computer stuff really ;/
11:42:56 <KingOfKarlsruhe> AnMaster: replace the text=".." with what you want.. like this text="Hello from Sweden"
11:42:59 <AnMaster> (why couldn't Swedish be that! ;))
11:43:20 <AnMaster> KingOfKarlsruhe, well that would be: "Hej från Sverige"
11:43:26 <AnMaster> not sure if it can translate utf8
11:44:16 <AnMaster> wait you can encode å in latin-1
11:44:22 <KingOfKarlsruhe> you can write it in lower cases the program convert it into upper
11:46:28 <AnMaster> utf8 can be described as a set of 8 bit chars
11:46:39 <AnMaster> just allow encoding any 8-bit char
11:46:48 <AnMaster> without caring about what it means
11:46:55 <AnMaster> in other words: encode a binary string
11:47:14 <AnMaster> in C a char is really just another integer
11:47:39 <AnMaster> not sure if you can do that in python
11:48:45 <AnMaster> well you should IMO be able to do it from the original string right?
11:51:44 <KingOfKarlsruhe> you need the hex 0xc3 then append it into self.befehl... but in decimal
11:55:21 <KingOfKarlsruhe> AnMaster: its version 0.0.1 :) if i have fun i write version 0.0.2 in full english and with unicode
11:56:57 <AnMaster> KingOfKarlsruhe, well I don't know python
11:57:11 <AnMaster> but I would just treat the input file in C as a binary file
12:11:32 <AnMaster> KingOfKarlsruhe, why not? that would allow utf8 too
12:11:55 <AnMaster> not caring about what the string contains
12:12:03 <AnMaster> just treat the string as a series of numbers
12:12:25 <AnMaster> for a computer both are the same!
12:15:28 <KingOfKarlsruhe> AnMaster: in python you can get the integer from a Char with ord('C') thats 67
12:15:36 <AnMaster> hrrm. there is setproctitle() on *BSD to set entry in ps output, I have seen same effect on linux too but can't find the function in question. So how do you do it on Linux?
12:15:57 <AnMaster> KingOfKarlsruhe, well I don't code high level scripting languages like python
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12:22:34 <AnMaster> KingOfKarlsruhe, only saying I can't really help you with python
12:22:51 <AnMaster> oklopol, do you know this maybe?:
12:22:54 <AnMaster> hrrm. there is setproctitle() on *BSD to set entry in ps output, I have seen same effect on linux too but can't find the function in question. So how do you do it on Linux?
12:27:25 <KingOfKarlsruhe> AnMaster, i code a new version to convert any File into a Brainfuck-program and if i have finished it i paste it in here
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12:28:42 <oklopol> AnMaster: i don't know that kind of stuff, generally.
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16:11:36 <ais523> well, obviously you were going to win today
16:11:47 <ais523> because I'm not on my usual client
16:11:51 <ais523> and the channel wasn't active
16:11:57 <ais523> so I had no reason to check it until you nickpinged me
16:12:07 <ais523> so was I a few days ago
16:12:15 <ais523> and my neck still hurts, but I think that's unrelated
16:12:18 <tusho> i caught it from you, obviously
16:12:20 <tusho> over the INTERNET!
16:13:00 <tusho> filter 'hi' to '/kickban'
16:13:13 <ais523> tusho: probably a bad idea
16:13:27 <ais523> although you could always use a duplication prevention bot to get rid of hispam if you wanted
16:17:26 * Sgeo works on the Warp virus project
16:17:36 <Sgeo> <ais523> well, obviously you were going to win today
16:17:39 <ais523> oh, the say-hi-first competition
16:17:54 <ais523> we never agreed to it, it just sort of happened
16:18:39 <tusho> 04:27:40 <AnMaster> do stay
16:18:39 <tusho> 04:27:41 <AnMaster> :)
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16:19:25 <Sgeo> tusho, what should I do if I discover that a virus can travel through the Warp?
16:25:32 <Sgeo> Well, my first attempt failed
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16:49:17 <ais523> trying hard to get a conversation going?
16:49:26 <ais523> generally speaking, having a subject helps
16:50:19 <Sgeo> The crisis that would occur in the CC if a Warp virus was possible, which it doesn't seem to be possible
16:53:59 <AnMaster> ais523, how goes cfunge stuff?
16:54:24 <ais523> AnMaster: not at the moment, because I'm on the wrong computer
16:54:25 <AnMaster> not sure what name it should have
16:54:37 <ais523> I'm on Windows shelling into SunOS right now, making it a lot harder to do programming
16:55:05 <AnMaster> anyway it is a joke about fffi and funge
16:55:19 <ais523> AnMaster: because this is a Windows computer, and SunOS is the only thing it can shell into
16:55:31 <ais523> I've been known to shell from there into a third OS but the performance of that is just awful
16:55:54 <AnMaster> ais523, but why are you on windows...
16:56:06 <ais523> AnMaster: I don't have my laptop on me at the moment
16:56:16 <AnMaster> ais523, ah you will later today?
16:56:16 <ais523> so this is a Uni computer
16:56:26 <ais523> it would involve going home and coming back again
16:56:39 <AnMaster> ais523, aww why did you leave it at home then :(
16:56:50 <ais523> AnMaster: because I went into town earlier today
17:05:21 <AnMaster> ais523, did you get any further after you got home yesterday?
17:05:33 <ais523> AnMaster: no, it was past midnight by then
17:05:35 <AnMaster> ais523, also what is the darcs checkout url now again?
17:05:49 <ais523> http://eso-std.org/darcs/c-intercal/ from memory
17:06:44 <ais523> not sure, I haven't tried to check out recently on darcs, its help knows and I normally check that but I don't have a copy of it on me at the moment
17:07:38 <ais523> I only started versioning recently
17:07:46 <ais523> there were loads of changes before that which were never versioned
17:08:19 <AnMaster> I normally make each commit one logic change
17:08:30 <AnMaster> like if I change two unrelated things I make them each different commits
17:08:51 <ais523> AnMaster: same here, I often work on things in parallel but I use darcs to commit them separately
17:09:03 <ais523> that's why the last few patches to the build system and to created operators are all jumbled up
17:09:27 <AnMaster> hm? I try to make them in logic order too
17:09:40 <AnMaster> and: every revision should compile
17:10:17 <ais523> every revision compiles for me, but often half-completed features will segfault or otherwise error on trying to use them
17:10:26 <ais523> however features that were there beforehand ought to still work
17:10:48 <ais523> except when I accidentally broke them, which happens from time to time
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17:31:06 <tusho> {MULTICS fathered UNIX
17:31:07 <tusho> but sadly, UNIX cannot father anything.} -- reddit
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17:55:49 <tusho> you'd think unix/eunuchs puns would be old by now
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18:28:48 <AnMaster> KingOfKarlsruhe, this works on any binary file?
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18:32:56 <AnMaster> anyway will test it in a bit, I'm IRCing from PDA atm
18:33:28 <AnMaster> KingOfKarlsruhe, anyway brainfuck only got the range 0-255
18:33:52 <tusho> AnMaster: PDA? how old fashioned
18:34:04 * tusho IRCs from his iphone :P
18:34:45 * tusho has a root shell on his iphone
18:36:33 <KingOfKarlsruhe> AnMaster: edit the line 92 from my program and enter the location of your file that you want to convert
18:36:42 <tusho> KingOfKarlsruhe: he's on a pda
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18:48:40 <KingOfKarlsruhe> AnMaster: i've fixed the bug now it converts any byte ( in theory ) in range 0 to 255
18:49:39 <tusho> KingOfKarlsruhe: pretty cool
18:49:46 <tusho> though text->brainfuck programs are quite common
18:50:20 <AnMaster> tusho, what are you coding atm?
18:50:32 <AnMaster> I dare you to make a C -> brainfuck compiler!
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18:50:48 <tusho> AnMaster: there's already two
18:50:59 <ais523> AnMaster: actually I've had some thoughts of writing one of those as a gcc backend
18:51:03 <AnMaster> that can convert any C99 to brainfuck?
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18:51:18 <ais523> basically implement a simple CPU of a custom desgin in BF
18:51:28 <ais523> AnMaster: no, on the Uni computer
18:51:39 <ais523> I would have been gone for 2 hours or so if I'd gone home and come back
18:51:42 <ais523> and I was getting food
18:51:44 <tusho> AnMaster: gregorr's c2bf
18:52:05 <tusho> ais523: want a decent unix? You can shell into this machine. :-P
18:52:09 <tusho> It even does x11 forwarding!
18:52:23 <ais523> tusho: yes, but that involves recursive sshing
18:52:27 <ais523> which is ridiculously slow
18:52:33 <tusho> just ssh in from windows
18:52:36 <ais523> because I already have to shell just to get to a UNIXy environment
18:52:46 <ais523> tusho: I can't, it's a special locked-down ssh-to-one-place-only thing
18:53:04 <tusho> ais523: i take it copying over PuTTY.exe for a bit would be against your morals
18:53:13 <tusho> AnMaster: ais523 has some weird morals
18:53:20 <ais523> AnMaster: on a public computer?
18:53:32 <tusho> AnMaster: he uses Outlook Web Access just because his uni policy says he should
18:53:37 <tusho> (and he's probably the only one who obeys that)
18:54:06 <AnMaster> ais523, it makes no sense still to lock it down to one if you still can ssh to a common system!
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18:54:26 <tusho> AnMaster: considering how bad the performance is nobody would do that
18:54:28 <ais523> AnMaster: I think it's something to do with easiness to support for the IT people
18:54:28 <tusho> so it isn't that crazy
18:54:35 <tusho> however ... why do they only offer SunOS
18:54:54 <AnMaster> sunos is the old name after all
18:54:55 <ais523> tusho: it's what's on their large high-performance computers, apparently they never bothered to upgrade it
18:55:04 <ais523> AnMaster: SunOS and Solaris are based on different codebases
18:55:07 <tusho> ais523: enterprisey
18:55:16 <ais523> they discontinued SunOS when they started work on Solaris
18:56:08 <ais523> but yes, SunOS is ridiculously old
18:56:10 <tusho> ais523: i feel for you
18:56:35 <ais523> before they installed Firefox on here I used to even use it for ancient Mozilla
18:56:46 <ais523> which went and blanked [[Talk:Main Page]] on Wikipedia once
18:57:00 <ais523> it can't even handle Monobook properly
18:58:39 <Sgeo> ais523, how did it do that?
18:58:56 <ais523> Sgeo: by just ignoring the contents of the edit box when I tried to submit an edit
18:59:16 <ais523> besides, even when it wasn't doing that, it was line-wrapping text fields
18:59:27 <ais523> taking long lines in the edit box and putting hard newlines in them on submit
18:59:32 <ais523> so it wasn't round-tripping even with no changes
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19:16:04 <ais523> this conversation is going nowhere
19:17:27 <Sgeo> So it's in the Universe but not a world?
19:17:34 <Sgeo> </terrible-AW-techie-joke>
19:20:49 <Sgeo> When you're in the AW universe but not in a world, you show as being Nowhere (I think)
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19:28:34 <tusho> AnMaster: creatures isn't odd :-P
19:28:46 <tusho> what Sgeo does with it is, though
19:29:34 <Sgeo> Active Worlds != Creatures in any way shape or form
19:29:50 <Sgeo> Well, there's a memorial to a dead CC member in AW..
19:30:34 <Sgeo> http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/SteerPike'
19:30:36 <Sgeo> http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/SteerPike
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20:00:30 <Sgeo> OMG AUGUR! AWGAR AWGAR AWGAR?
20:00:37 <tusho> AUGUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:00:39 <augur> dude check this out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7471724.stm
20:00:49 <augur> we need to build some of these and release them
20:00:55 <augur> all over the planet
20:01:00 <augur> we need to do it all at the same time
20:01:32 <augur> how fucking awesome would it be to fuck with all those ufo people
20:07:23 <Ilari> Building real flying saucer (somehow) and flying around with it could be even better (if one doesn't mind potential fines from FAA)... :-)
20:07:41 <tusho> I think that might be a bit harder :P
20:11:38 <augur> so are we gonna do this? :o
20:11:46 <oklofok> didn't the chinese just build a flying saucer
20:12:32 <Ilari> Yeah... Producing enough force to lift it without expending too much fuel is the main problem... :-)
20:12:37 <oklofok> http://markstechnologynews.blogspot.com/2008/06/watch-out-chinese-flying-saucers-about.html
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21:14:54 <Qhestion> i have a question concerning brainfck: if my code is, for example, "[a]b", and all cells are initialized to 0, will 'a' be executed (assuming 'a' is code) or will the interpreter jump directly to 'b'?
21:15:44 <tusho> Qhestion: *brainfuck
21:15:53 <tusho> and it'll jump to b of course
21:16:03 <tusho> [...] only executse if the memory cell in the pointer is not 0
21:16:36 <Qhestion> well, i KNEW something was wrong with my interpreter :D
21:17:09 <Qhestion> oh and, in a[b[c]d]e, it will go a -> e, right?
21:18:01 <Ilari> Qhestion: Yes, unless a leaves it at nonzero cell..
21:24:46 <tusho> [ = while (memory[ptr])
21:26:01 <Qhestion> oh... i thought it was the other way around, which explains why my interpreter does not do what its supposed to :)
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22:38:11 <augur> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10622064@N03/2554098095/
22:38:14 <augur> slereah you dumbass :P
22:40:08 <augur> i didnt say it was
22:40:50 <cctoide> I see what you did there, augur
22:43:55 <augur> IT IS WHEN I RAPE YOU
22:45:27 <augur> that's what SHE said
22:46:49 <cctoide> well clearly she's a copycat
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22:49:22 <Slereah> Was there any lulz with Chainsaw?
22:49:47 <augur> who the frell is chainsaw
22:49:48 <cctoide> well, it made a new entry in my drama folder
22:50:09 <cctoide> either way it won't last more than 10 days, it seems
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22:51:52 <augur> who the fuck is chainsaw?!
22:51:59 <Slereah> "Temporary K-line 15360 min."
22:52:20 <Slereah> His first kline made note of "harrasment" on him :D
22:52:30 <Slereah> I'm not the one following him everywhere!
22:52:47 <cctoide> that's why you don't troll channels on your home network you cheese manipulator
22:53:28 <cctoide> on the bright side you killed erelae so hurrah
22:53:57 <cctoide> because erelae is "BANISHED" now
22:54:18 <cctoide> I know, and I am most shocked that Monsieur Kode was involved in this affair
22:55:33 <Slereah> I'd be, but I don't really know who that guy is.
22:56:11 <cctoide> He's a 3/4 respectable guy!
22:56:24 <Slereah> BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT QUARTER
22:56:53 <cctoide> Well, that's the quarter that got him banned
22:56:58 <cctoide> Or maybe you were a bad influence!
22:57:17 <Slereah> Well, it was all because of that new dude, you know.
22:57:26 <Slereah> He was here, all like "I'm from other channels"
22:57:33 <Slereah> So we had to do something.
22:57:35 <cctoide> Chainsaw, from the internets?
22:57:49 <Slereah> A guy with a hardon for Nintendo
22:58:08 <cctoide> So there was a SPY around there
22:58:22 <cctoide> was he given away by the massive number of cigarettes
22:59:22 <Slereah> I think it was the paper mask that gave him away
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23:51:13 <Slereah> "Sieg Heil, thats your Hitler reference, which you still cant whip out without some backlash. Thats impressive staying power. I mean five, six decades on and hes still the worlds number one symbol of evil. Imagine that. Hes like the Mickey Mouse of evil. Except Goofy is Goebbels and Minnie is on fire in a ditch."
23:53:01 * oerjan wonders if that makes Black Pete Stalin...
23:55:13 <cctoide> hmm, Slereah is like headcrabs
23:56:22 <augur> have you guys seen these things that are like
23:56:30 <augur> hot air balloons powered by the sun?
23:57:05 <augur> they're basically just like black plastic bags made into a tube that you put air into then seal
23:57:12 <augur> and the sun heats them up and makes them float