< 1214611390 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :itd be interesting to try and develop something like relativity but that affects histories instead of simultaneity
< 1214611501 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Everett interpretation is a little bit like that i think
< 1214611507 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1214611518 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't TOE (assuming it is eventually discovered) provode answers to things like wheither FTL travel is possible and wheither time travel is possible?
< 1214611527 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics
< 1214611532 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should
< 1214611568 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think multiple-worlds QM is the time-equivalent of Relativity's affects on simultaneity
< 1214611582 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{Based on theoretical holographic principle arguments from the 1990s, many physicists believe that 11-dimensional M-theory, which is described in many sectors by matrix string theory, in many other sectors by perturbative string theory is the complete theory of everything. Other physicists disagree.}
< 1214611584 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- wikipedia
< 1214611587 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolllll
< 1214611601 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was so obviously put there by a string theorist
< 1214611604 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think they'd try harder
< 1214611646 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... Wonder if it is possible to combine that E8 theory with Z2 grading (supersymmetry)...
< 1214611663 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"many physicists" seems to be begging for the weasel word template...
< 1214611670 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you betcha
< 1214611676 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that exceptionally simple theory of everything
< 1214611678 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is apparently bulshit
< 1214611680 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bullshit
< 1214611688 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read about it somewhere, apparently it's mainly just a load of buzzwords
< 1214611793 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main techincal problem seems to be that it can't represent fermions. On the other hand, supersymmetry operator converts between fermions and bosons....
< 1214611862 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has the weirdness that pretty much all previous theories combined strong force first and then gravity. Apparently that E8 thing first combines gravity and then strong force.
< 1214611945 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's why GUT is theory of strong force, weak force and electromagnetism)....
< 1214611955 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not gravity?
< 1214612041 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old kaluza-klein theory unifies gravity and electromagnetism, but then it's not a quantum theory
< 1214612041 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In classical model naming, TOE combines GUT with gravity (and is the final theory).
< 1214612070 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, there are theories that involve forces beyound the four currently known...
< 1214612100 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait this web page claims klein
< 1214612112 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s part _was_ quantum: http://www.matter-antimatter.com/kaluza-klein_theory.htm
< 1214612126 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hulo
< 1214612137 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Slereah_
< 1214612144 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it didn't work
< 1214612216 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Figuring way to merge GR and QM is not trivial. Many attemps have been made, each running into nonsensical stuff (infinities).
< 1214612245 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with infinities?
< 1214612250 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite probabilities, WHATS IT MEAN
< 1214612263 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no such thing as an infinite probability :(
< 1214612314 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently that web page is affiliated with some people attempting to fix this and probably give their own TOE?)
< 1214612315 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if one doesn't run into infinities, one gets stuff like 10^120 times too large value for some constant (vacuum negative energy density).
< 1214612328 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, infinities are no good in a universe which doesn't explode and all.
< 1214612353 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know
< 1214612368 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the infinite probabilities means it happens in _all_ alternate universes. o.o
< 1214612385 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probabilities are [0;1], psygnisfive.
< 1214612389 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure!
< 1214612393 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you have TWO universes
< 1214612394 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outside, they're non-sensical.
< 1214612405 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then your probability should be 2!
< 1214612410 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why?
< 1214612418 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply divide probability/#universes and you get the probability in your universe
< 1214612423 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in any one universe
< 1214612431 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, /infinity? :P
< 1214612433 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the two probabilities are disjoint.
< 1214612441 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, if they're not, they're not two
< 1214612442 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah but what if they're NOT disjoint
< 1214612457 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what what infinity?
< 1214612468 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean divide by infinitey
< 1214612469 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :)
< 1214612475 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinity/infinity
< 1214612475 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D
< 1214612484 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := 1 :D
< 1214612485 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p
< 1214612487 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: i think my summary is, don't write a TOE :P
< 1214612498 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT WHAT IF ITS TRUE ZOMG
< 1214612504 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let physicists do their jobs, dude.
< 1214612508 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinity/infinity is not well-defined.
< 1214612516 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they will not talk of linguistic :o
< 1214612520 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ilari: what if it is :O
< 1214612529 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shush psygnisfive.
< 1214612535 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to be a physics major, you know. then my school screwed me over and i had to switch majors
< 1214612542 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk
< 1214612599 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm a physics gradutate.
< 1214612601 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I win.
< 1214612616 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1214612617 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea
< 1214612620 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new conlang
< 1214612644 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Toe' - english translation is the correct theory of everything
< 1214612649 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now all we have to do is publish a paper in that language consisting of 'Toe'
< 1214612654 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we'll be heroes
< 1214612664 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinity/infinity can be made to be anything between 0 and infinity by suitable choice of infinities...
< 1214612675 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't that exist?
< 1214612689 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like for instance, the KJV translation? :o
< 1214612697 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people are scary for it
< 1214612726 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: lol wut
< 1214612735 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'Toe' - english translation is the correct theory of everything"
< 1214612737 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1214612799 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently had the idea of a general relativity based particle automaton*
< 1214612810 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, I realized it would be horrible to write
< 1214612814 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the specs.
< 1214613152 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... Is there esolangs (besides that unary coding of NULL) that can be proven to be turing-complete, but have all nontrivial programs so large that they can't be written in practice?
< 1214613193 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: Yes.
< 1214613195 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That primes language.
< 1214613198 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs are primes.
< 1214613201 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, any esolang which requires an infinite input, for a start
< 1214613207 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho : Godel encoding?
< 1214613210 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To write a program, you have to write a program, then encode it into a prime by bruteforcing primes.
< 1214613213 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: Not sure.
< 1214613215 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's on the esowiki.
< 1214613225 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge is close, too.
< 1214613242 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking of Fractran?
< 1214613247 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/f7a13fa58
< 1214613253 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an hello world encoding :D
< 1214613261 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, maybe Unary?
< 1214613344 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rule 110 automaton of Wolfram's gives some huge programs too, i think
< 1214613400 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although someone did improve the unary encoding of a TM to a polynomial one)
< 1214613484 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about ais523's wolfram thing
< 1214613497 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is infinite too
< 1214613501 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think
< 1214613513 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, you know, nice infinite
< 1214613516 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not random infinite
< 1214613517 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1214613590 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not NAUGHTY infiny.
< 1214613597 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lmao.
< 1214613792 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we'll have to invent that.
< 1214613819 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aleph_NAUGHT{Y}
< 1214613842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe?
< 1214613907 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the smallest indecent cardinal
< 1214613942 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One funky thing is what is aleph_1? Question if aleph_1 equals beth_1 (size of reals) is undecidable from basic (accepted) set-theoretic assumptions...
< 1214613984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we need to define cardinal sins, then
< 1214613985 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aleph 1 is the smallest cardinal higher than aleph 0.
< 1214614002 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cardinal sins already exists, tusho
< 1214614003 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ... the sine function with cardinals
< 1214614005 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something
< 1214614010 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the function sin(x)/x
< 1214614030 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you're right.
< 1214614045 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So.
< 1214614050 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aleph 1 is the cardinal of the first uncountable ordinal, which is again fairly concretely the _set_ of countable well-ordering classes
< 1214614054 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need to use cardinal sins to define aleph_NAUGHT{Y}
< 1214614057 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1214614074 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something involving altar boys, presumably.
< 1214614101 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1214614221 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmon guys
< 1214614230 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to design a real crazy language
< 1214614241 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge?
< 1214614247 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something completely bafflingly different yet brilliantly sensible
< 1214614249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that google gives a hit for aleph-naughty. "Infinite to the power of infinite wishes"
< 1214614254 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: no we need to define aleph_NAUGHT{Y} using the cardinal sin function with altar boys
< 1214614295 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it involve raping you?
< 1214614314 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly.
< 1214614319 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWESOME.
< 1214614325 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/%22The_most_important_thing_in_the_programming_language_is_the_name._A_language_will_not_succeed_without_a_good_name._I_have_recently_invented_a_very_good_name_and_now_I_am_looking_for_a_suitable_language.%22
< 1214614336 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this conversation may be illegal in some US states.
< 1214614336 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We still need to fill it :o
< 1214614355 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this conversation may be illegal in some USA's.*
< 1214614376 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still want to make my language that uses natural-language-like syntactic structures.
< 1214614384 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and allows quantified values.
< 1214614385 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1214614393 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: have you looked at Perligata?
< 1214614399 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So crazy that it lacks anything even seeming like instruction pointer? :-)
< 1214614400 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, should i?
< 1214614424 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :challenge: DESIGN AN ALIEN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE.
< 1214614426 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO IT.
< 1214614473 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: also, maybe ORK
< 1214614526 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perligata is latin-based though, more about inflections than syntax
< 1214614546 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats boring.
< 1214614554 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1214614558 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/ORK
< 1214614589 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, i dont want programming IN natural language, or anything that looks like natural language necessarily
< 1214614591 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one enforced english syntax language that comes to mind
< 1214614598 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want to use concepts from natural language syntax.
< 1214614648 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I conjugate loop?
< 1214614666 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're french, you can do it
< 1214614668 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looper
< 1214614670 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to loop, loops, looped, has looped
< 1214614671 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loopée
< 1214614677 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loopeaux
< 1214614680 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever
< 1214614695 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looperons
< 1214614703 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too.
< 1214614709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A(A(g_64, g_64), A(g_64, g_64)) == ?
< 1214614712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs
< 1214614721 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :42.
< 1214614722 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1
< 1214614732 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR OUT OF SPACETIME
< 1214614739 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of space time haha
< 1214614740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is correct
< 1214614757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, Slereah_: oerjan is actually correct
< 1214614768 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not the point
< 1214614787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read up on Graham's number and Ackermann's function
< 1214614794 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT THE POINT.
< 1214614798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, why?
< 1214614811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, out of space time by how much?
< 1214614819 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A LOT
< 1214614821 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR OUT OF SPACETIME
< 1214614823 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there units for space time?
< 1214614827 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cubic foot seconds?
< 1214614841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, how many iterations of that question until you are not out of spacetime?
< 1214614854 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, using Planck units to define units of space time, the entire universe is way under 10^150 units of spacetime
< 1214614855 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still ERROR OUT OF SPACETIME, possibly
< 1214614862 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, haha
< 1214614883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, by how much?
< 1214614903 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how long until we have 10^150 bits on a hard drive?
< 1214614920 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon as you can fit the universe into it
< 1214614924 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok is it just me
< 1214614928 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is this cheating:
< 1214614931 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from wiki)
< 1214614939 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Values of A(m,n):
< 1214614945 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for m\n = 0\1
< 1214614951 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A(m,n) = A(0,1)
< 1214614954 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe the holographic hypothesis limits memory to the surface area of the hard drive
< 1214614960 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear, thats what it says
< 1214614978 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The actual Ackermann function is more complicated
< 1214614983 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has three variables
< 1214614994 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the two variable version is common
< 1214615067 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<oerjan> i think this conversation may be illegal in some US states.
< 1214615070 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoughtcrime?
< 1214615119 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chatcrime
< 1214615123 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERNET CRIME
< 1214615123 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it illegal to joke about raping someone who's significantly underage in a context where its obviously a joke?
< 1214615155 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows the US law system has no sense of humor
< 1214615158 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more importantly, in the presence of, and being said to, the person fictionally being raped?
< 1214615165 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO HUMOR AT ALL.
< 1214615168 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HUMOR CLOGS THE TUBES.
< 1214615179 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: i think it would be more clear-cut if I wasn't 12 :-P
< 1214615185 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does freenode do coppa?
< 1214615188 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so then I shouldn't be here in the first place
< 1214615198 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more clear cut if you werent 12 how?
< 1214615198 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes
< 1214615200 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that law allows it if you fax in a permission form
< 1214615206 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :signed by your parents...
< 1214615209 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl
< 1214615213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppa?
< 1214615219 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go ask your parents, tusho
< 1214615221 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: paranoid shit
< 1214615223 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can fax your parents a permission slip and if you and your parents sign it i can rape you?
< 1214615223 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to rape you
< 1214615226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is coppa?
< 1214615226 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you coppa!
< 1214615227 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Children's Online Privacy Protection Act.
< 1214615233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:32 - By registering your nickname with Nickserv you agree that you
< 1214615233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:32 - are 13 years of age, or older. For more information about the
< 1214615233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:32 - Children's Online Privacy Protection Act please see their
< 1214615233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:32 - website at (http://www.coppa.org).
< 1214615244 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well, I'm actually 37
< 1214615247 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just lying that I'm 123
< 1214615248 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1214615248 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12
< 1214615251 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my official opinion
< 1214615251 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok?
< 1214615252 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1214615255 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to the topic of raping me
< 1214615263 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1214615264 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're under 13, no Internet for you! Except that's a big exaggeration. You're just not allowed to provide certain information.
< 1214615270 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Let's all rape Tusho! :D
< 1214615278 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rapes tusho
< 1214615282 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: COPPA is universally ignored except by a few annoying people/
< 1214615283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, where are the logs
< 1214615284 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pedo.
< 1214615285 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a minute...
< 1214615286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find them
< 1214615286 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels raped by ihope 
< 1214615288 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: hey hey, no leaving out the channel logs
< 1214615290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when they are not in the toic
< 1214615292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic
< 1214615299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, WHERE ARE THE CHANNEL LOGS!?
< 1214615305 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT?
< 1214615307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :HTTP COLON SLASH SLASH TUNES DOT ORG SLASH TILDE NEF SLASH LOGS SLASH ESOTERIC
< 1214615315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1214615318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good way
< 1214615322 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all urls should be written that way.
< 1214615324 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to type to get them
< 1214615328 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORK FOR IT
< 1214615336 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not just going to GIVE AWAY the log url
< 1214615346 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :colon slash slash is what happens when you have sex without lube
< 1214615353 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow
< 1214615359 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :colon slash slash tunes is music you listen to while having sex without lube.
< 1214615398 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http colon slash slash tunes is music about the web you listen to while having sex without lube
< 1214615404 0 :cherez!n=cherez@cpe-76-167-242-249.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214615414 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who will continue?!
< 1214615443 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STEP UP AND CLAIM YOUR PRIZE AS NUMBER ONE STUPID INTERPRETATION OF THE TOPIC INVENTOR PERSON
< 1214615453 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1214615454 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LUBE IN THE TUBE
< 1214615455 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIRST TO COMPLETE THE WHOLE TOPIC GETS TO RAPE TUSHO
< 1214615457 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just add the next two words
< 1214615460 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hi cherez
< 1214615463 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're raping me
< 1214615471 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're raping tusho
< 1214615492 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool tho, he was asking for it.
< 1214615505 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http colon slash slash tunes dot is the hole you get in your brain when you listen to music about the web you listen to while having sex without lube
< 1214615506 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, look at how hes dressed, all slutty like that like
< 1214615514 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :PUBLIC LOGS: HTTP COLON SLASH SLASH TUNES DOT ORG SLASH TILDE NEF SLASH LOGS SLASH ESOTERIC
< 1214615521 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is lame.
< 1214615530 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you are not one step closer to raping yourself.
< 1214615534 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was I supposed to accidentally type "PUBIC LOGS"?
< 1214615541 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO IT
< 1214615542 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: you add 'dot' then
< 1214615554 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do it. :-P
< 1214615559 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :PUBIC LOGS: HTTP COLON SLASH SLASH TUNES DOT ORG SLASH TILDE NEF SLASH LOGS SLASH ESOTERIC
< 1214615615 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :PUBLIC LOGS: HEICH TEE TEE PEE COLON SLASH SLASH TEE YOU EN EE ES DOT OH AR GEE SLASH TILDE EN EE EF SLASH EL OH GEE ES SLASH EE ES OH TEE EE AR AI CEE
< 1214615672 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :PEE YOU BEE EL AI CEE EL OH GEE ES: HEICH TEE TEE PEE COLON SLASH SLASH TEE YOU EN EE ES DOT OH AR GEE SLASH TILDE EN EE EF SLASH EL OH GEE ES SLASH EE ES OH TEE EE AR AI CEE
< 1214615681 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey i know!
< 1214615700 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEE YOU BEE EYE CEE EL OH GEE ESS COLON HEICH EE EYE CEE HEIGH TEE EE EE TEE EE EE PEE EE EE CEE OH EL OH EN ESS EL AYE ESS HEICH ...
< 1214615708 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn
< 1214615710 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive beat me
< 1214615712 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pee ee ee why oh you bee ee ee ee el ..
< 1214615715 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1214615716 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't
< 1214615722 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was spelling out the spelling out after the colon too
< 1214615735 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1214615740 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pubic log?
< 1214615742 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are heich and heigh?
< 1214615753 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h and ??
< 1214615762 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would like to make a public statement about the topic: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYEEEEEH!!!!!!!
< 1214615766 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h and typo
< 1214615770 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :H and A?
< 1214615785 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAYEEEEHHH!!!!!!!!!
< 1214615788 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEE COLON <- lulwut
< 1214615791 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric : PEE YOU BEE EL AI CEE EL OH GEE ES: HEICH TEE TEE PEE COLON SLASH SLASH TEE YOU EN EE ES DOT OH AR GEE SLASH TILDE EN EE EF SLASH EL OH GEE ES SLASH EE ES OH TEE EE AR AI CEE
< 1214615796 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUBICLOGS:*EIC*TEETEEPEECOLONSLIS*... yeah.
< 1214615797 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Welcome to Qrrbrbirlbel
< 1214615800 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to bee in YOUR colon
< 1214615802 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;O
< 1214615813 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ixnay on the ogslay!
< 1214615854 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :double you ee el cee oh em ee tee oh queue arrrrrrrrr! bee arr bee eye arr el bee ee el
< 1214615861 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
< 1214615874 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :EFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
< 1214615905 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1214615909 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need EFF * number of Fs
< 1214615909 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1214615925 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JEW LIES
< 1214615926 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF
< 1214615944 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :ee eff eff ee eff eff ee eff eff
< 1214615950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF EE EFF EFF
< 1214615955 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's stop iterating this
< 1214615955 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Warning: Topical cyclone.  Please seek cover.
< 1214615956 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3
< 1214615975 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0110100110010110100101100110100110010110011010010110100110010110
< 1214615978 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey hey hey
< 1214615979 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that, anyway.
< 1214615988 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a new look and say innit
< 1214615996 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a
< 1214615997 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay
< 1214615999 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay why
< 1214616008 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Http:// TUNES.ORG cyclone. Please /~nef/ cover. Logs/esoteric
< 1214616009 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay why double you aitch why
< 1214616058 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1214616059 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1214616066 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aitch ee el el oh
< 1214616068 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aitch ee el el oh
< 1214616069 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1214616070 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1214616071 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's take turns
< 1214616072 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1214616086 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did that already nigga
< 1214616093 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine
< 1214616112 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay eye tee cee aitch ee ee ee el ee el oh aitch
< 1214616152 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ee el el o. ee ee space ee el space ee el o. ee ee space ee ee space es pee ay cee ee space . . .
< 1214616163 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION predicts convergence of this substitution sequence
< 1214616177 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1214616179 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is interesting
< 1214616180 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no spaces
< 1214616183 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err
< 1214616184 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: no spaces
< 1214616188 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omit the spaces :(
< 1214616189 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think by convergence, you mean turning into ais523's Turing tape thingy.
< 1214616190 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just spell out the letters
< 1214616195 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay.
< 1214616198 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll redo if you want
< 1214616208 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean convergence to an infinitely long fixpoint sequence
< 1214616212 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ee el el o. ee ee ee el ee el o. ee ee ee ee ee ee ee el ee ee ee el o.
< 1214616233 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay bee cee dee ee eff(!) gee aitch(!) eye(!) jay kay el(!) em(!) en(!) oh pee queue you(!) arr(!) es(!) tee you(!) vee double you(!) eks(!) why(!) zee
< 1214616236 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay why ee why ee tee ee ee cee ee ee ay eye tee cee aitch ee ee ee ee ee ee ee el ee ee ee el oh aitch ay eye tee cee aitch
< 1214616239 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ihope's was wrong. I fixed it.)
< 1214616240 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the (!)ed ones are not self-starting
< 1214616241 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, I guess that would be ee ee ee ee ee ee ee...
< 1214616250 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're using Haskell or something.
< 1214616250 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: continue from mine
< 1214616254 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :self starting ones are infinite loops
< 1214616267 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right ee is trivial
< 1214616284 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all of course eventually get periodic
< 1214616289 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone continue from mine :(
< 1214616303 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eff, aitch, eye, el, em, en, arr, es, and eks are all non-self starting
< 1214616314 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I will
< 1214616315 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they each start with self starting ones
< 1214616331 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you is eventually self starting
< 1214616339 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine i will
< 1214616340 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you -> why -> double you -> dee
< 1214616350 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1214616351 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so eventually they're all self starting.
< 1214616357 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fixpoints for all
< 1214616381 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not fixed points, but they eventually devolve into containing the same stuff over and over
< 1214616384 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see
< 1214616393 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the limit is a fixpoint
< 1214616401 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dee => dee ee ee => dee ee ee ee ee ee ee
< 1214616411 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay why double-you aitch why ee ee double-you aitch why ee ee tee ee ee ee ee ee ee cee ee ee ee ee ee ee ay why ee why ee tee ee ee cee ee ee ay eye tee cee aitch ee ee ee ee ee ee ee ee ee ee
< 1214616415 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1214616416 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's "hello"
< 1214616436 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ef => ee ef => ee ee ee ef => ...
< 1214616446 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess theres also self-ending
< 1214616446 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'ma write a JS thing that lets you type in something
< 1214616450 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it morphs into the new versions
< 1214616455 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow.
< 1214616467 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho it takes two seconds, dont be such a pussy.
< 1214616474 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude it's 1:30am and I'm going
< 1214616478 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame
< 1214616484 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1214616488 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye.
< 1214616505 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1214616513 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAME.
< 1214616514 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morph =... your two-second time limit has expired. Please insert coin to proceed.
< 1214616515 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bye
< 1214616530 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slalom.
< 1214616544 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er...
< 1214616564 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say ihope's hebrew is really going downhill there
< 1214616577 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True.
< 1214616603 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only other Hebrew things I remember are "ma is what?" and "you want I should".
< 1214616622 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :
< 1214616683 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/going/skiing/
< 1214616731 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very true.
< 1214617141 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1214617146 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hebrew esolang? :o
< 1214617153 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As approved by YHWH
< 1214619709 0 :cc_toide!n=fortytwo@87-196-157-184.net.novis.pt JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214620779 0 :cctoide!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1214621563 0 :cc_to_ide!n=fortytwo@87-196-51-44.net.novis.pt JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214622452 0 :cc_to_ide!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cctoide
< 1214622485 0 :cc_toide!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1214622620 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup niggas
< 1214622700 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Niggery things.
< 1214622777 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/superjerk-is-a-jerk.png
< 1214623142 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahah
< 1214623147 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nazi Donkey Kongs.
< 1214623157 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Captain N is just a dreadful show.
< 1214623239 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha
< 1214624319 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep"
< 1214625304 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man guys
< 1214625318 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im doing visualizations of alphabet look and speak?
< 1214625323 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooolness.
< 1214625388 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What?
< 1214625438 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its COOl dude
< 1214625519 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does he have a popped collar?
< 1214625524 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yes
< 1214625526 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :green polo
< 1214625533 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what that means
< 1214625760 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should put this up on the inter blogs
< 1214625769 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wotblog
< 1214626087 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i has a blog
< 1214626091 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214626093 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a useless blog but a blog none the less
< 1214626125 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know of a good technique for turning exponential growth into polynomial growth? :\
< 1214626214 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nevermind
< 1214626327 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take the logarithm?
< 1214626366 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pad the input with zeros
< 1214626420 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1214626556 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats so weird
< 1214626568 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i guess its not really
< 1214626573 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, how weird
< 1214626613 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :switching input from binary to unary would also work
< 1214626639 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hush :P
< 1214626648 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to show you guys this
< 1214626650 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its cool
< 1214626650 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o
< 1214626662 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show me ur harbl
< 1214626845 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :harbl? no! :|
< 1214627018 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I was reading about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller, a Supreme Court case restricting gun laws.
< 1214627053 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a section titled "Henderson's dissent"; at first, I thought it said "Handguns for dissent".
< 1214627069 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't like how the government's running things." *BLAM*
< 1214627102 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1214627154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thought that was the amendment's _intended_ use ;)
< 1214627399 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE RIGHT TO ARM BEARS
< 1214628275 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bustedtees.com/secondamendment
< 1214630102 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving"
< 1214630392 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving"
< 1214630398 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214631214 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man
< 1214631217 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :these things are so weird
< 1214631459 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep"
< 1214631582 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)
< 1214632126 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1214632170 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys guys guys
< 1214632218 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wellnowwhat.net/alphabeticalseesay.xhtml
< 1214632713 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wot
< 1214632798 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check it out
< 1214632808 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the alphabetical look tell algorithm
< 1214632821 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> ay -> ay why -> ay why double you aitch why -> ...
< 1214632832 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not do that
< 1214632841 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drawn 6 levels deep
< 1214632849 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each letter from a-z is replaced by a colored bar
< 1214632853 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1214632855 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame.
< 1214632858 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphed twice, once left aligned, once right aligned
< 1214632862 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude
< 1214632864 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at that
< 1214632871 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at a
< 1214632881 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its completely trivial in its left expansion
< 1214632890 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :left-aligned expansion, i mean
< 1214632901 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its always the same from row to row, plus some.
< 1214632911 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while the right expansion is almost always the same from row to row
< 1214632919 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the same parts growing on the right each time
< 1214632921 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its AWESOME
< 1214632934 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are self similar in that say, but not from the left edge
< 1214632937 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or right edge
< 1214632941 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at i, for instance
< 1214632942 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm.
< 1214632954 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I apparently have pictures of myself where I'm naked, and a minor
< 1214632958 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it legal?
< 1214632965 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to click submit, btw.
< 1214632967 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could endanger... myself
< 1214632968 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enter wont work.
< 1214632971 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something
< 1214632975 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme see your self pics :o
< 1214632983 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it is technically illegal in the US, yes.
< 1214633860 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cleans his room
< 1214634159 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also watching the "Colour of Magick" movie
< 1214634170 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a book that lends itself well for movies, though
< 1214634174 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too much narrator stuff
< 1214634526 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Two Flower does not look very asian
< 1214634903 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now he's speaking English D:
< 1214634916 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess having him speak in goobledigook the whole movie would be annoying
< 1214636373 0 :cc_toide!n=fortytwo@87-196-218-244.net.novis.pt JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214637535 0 :cctoide!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1214638155 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude
< 1214638167 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the alphabetical look-tell is a fractal :o
< 1214638207 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isq it?
< 1214638436 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is! :o
< 1214638454 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its hard to see with only the 6 iterations there
< 1214638498 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with "a", from 2/9 to 4/9 is the same as from 7/9 to 9/9
< 1214638533 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the middle there are some similarities too, too, which expand outward
< 1214638547 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or consider y, which is part of the cause of the fractalness
< 1214638590 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose that it's because most letters contains themselves in their pronounciations.
< 1214638598 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, thats what i thought
< 1214638613 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats incorrect
< 1214638626 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no letter contains itself more then once, except e
< 1214638634 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe something else
< 1214638645 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but isn't once enough?
< 1214638649 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1214638651 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b
< 1214638652 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee
< 1214638655 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee ee ee
< 1214638659 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee ee ee ee ee ee ee
< 1214638663 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee :D
< 1214638674 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is fractality for any string?
< 1214638678 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1214638683 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only for certain ones
< 1214638687 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gayly lame
< 1214638719 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything like bee or el will not be fractal
< 1214638765 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a h i j k o q r u w x y are all fractal
< 1214638788 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y -> why so why is tripply fractal
< 1214638807 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w -> double you so its multiply fractal
< 1214638825 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on
< 1214638872 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the names for letters contain themselves or other letters that contain the letter, or are fractal.
< 1214638881 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole thing just explodes out into self similarity
< 1214638900 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't ee totally fractal? :o
< 1214638911 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similar everywhere dude!
< 1214638981 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes :p
< 1214638986 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but trivially so
< 1214639014 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love trivial.
< 1214639021 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, want to see a quine?
< 1214639022 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :""
< 1214639060 0 :revcompgeek!i=42ec44fd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c0d907d4d3aecca2 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214639088 0 :revcompgeek!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :?
< 1214639406 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a quine :)
< 1214639439 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the language prints by default, and it prints strings as surrounded by quotes
< 1214639450 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case all strings are quines in that language
< 1214639456 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's the empty string
< 1214639463 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the SOURCE isnt the empty string
< 1214639470 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the source is a string containing ""
< 1214639472 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1214639474 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I have no epsilons on my keyboard.
< 1214639499 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had epsilons
< 1214639501 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, e
< 1214639509 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it still wouldnt be a quin
< 1214639519 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :epsilon represents the empty string
< 1214639520 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you'd need to print the string containing the symbol e
< 1214639529 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, epsilon represents it
< 1214639533 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but epsilon is also a symbol.
< 1214639533 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you might know, IRC doesn't accept empty input.
< 1214639545 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shut up.
< 1214639547 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;)
< 1214639551 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You cockgoblin.
< 1214639560 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went through a whole semester of formal semantics
< 1214639579 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first month was nothing but object language vs metalanguage
< 1214639591 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's metalanguage, you cock
< 1214639628 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a grammar that has a symbol for the empty string can itself be specified with another grammar, but that other grammar treats the symbol for the empty string as just any other terminal symbol
< 1214639633 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"e" != e
< 1214639634 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1214639643 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"''" != ""
< 1214639655 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like {{}} != {}
< 1214639666 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infact, its the exact same thing.
< 1214639684 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except metalanguage, you turdburglar.
< 1214639686 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to some extent.
< 1214639696 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"except metalanguage" what?
< 1214639740 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said, it IS possible that you could do that
< 1214639751 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that I was not suggesting putting two quotes in the program but nothing.
< 1214639757 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You ass pirate.
< 1214639764 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" would indeed be valid IF the language by default printed bare strings surrounded by quotes.
< 1214639789 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then the source is empty
< 1214639805 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok.
< 1214639816 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that suffers from the same problem as ""
< 1214639816 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You...
< 1214639817 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You...
< 1214639823 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes.
< 1214639826 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double nigger.
< 1214639835 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must print by default
< 1214639842 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in this case, it just prints nothingness
< 1214639869 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all programs print nothingness, since any instance of nothingness is printed
< 1214639876 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you print an infinite number of times
< 1214639889 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that technically its not a quine
< 1214639895 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it...
< 1214639938 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't e.e = e?
< 1214639999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended
< 1214640000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214640024 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1214640037 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it might be an infinity of nothing.
< 1214640040 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also one :o
< 1214640045 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1214640055 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's a quine, and a repeating quine :o
< 1214640071 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it prints each empty string once then it prints an infinite number of empty strings
< 1214640087 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i guess is technically what the source is
< 1214640114 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to askv what's the sound of one hand clapping now?
< 1214640142 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because clapping is defined as involving two hands and thus the question is based on false premises and has no answer.
< 1214640158 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who knows anything about zen understands that thats the point of those koans.
< 1214640200 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why are you asking stupid things about the empty string.
< 1214640202 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're meant to reveal the pointlessness of asking such questions because wanting answers is yet another attachment
< 1214640217 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im asking these questions because we're not in a zen monastery! >O
< 1214640246 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't we?
< 1214640316 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS NEITHER THE WIND NOR THE FLAG THAT IS MOVING.
< 1214640342 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the universe around it? D:
< 1214640429 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or inside?
< 1214641018 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1214641367 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@wads-5-232-63.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214643866 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the eyes that are moving
< 1214644453 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol
< 1214644460 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see my fractally thingy?
< 1214644474 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214646194 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: no, for some reason nnscript decided to start cutting off my backlog at random.
< 1214646202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :u...
< 1214646202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:56… Slereah_: You...
< 1214646202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:56… Slereah_: Ah, yes.
< 1214646211 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the extent of what i see
< 1214646219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokoko
< 1214646247 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1214646260 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wellnowwhat.net/alphabeticalseesay.xhtml
< 1214646270 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type in a letter and click submit
< 1214646290 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is such a windows client, pretty nice to use, and pretty, but you never know when some random option suddenly enables, and everything changes for the worse.
< 1214646291 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it produces multiple iterations of the "replace each letter with its name"
< 1214646303 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wellnowwhat.net/alphabeticalseesay.xhtml
< 1214646330 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the algorithm looks like this:
< 1214646347 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a => ay => ay why => ay why double you aitch why
< 1214646350 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on
< 1214646386 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b => bee => bee ee ee etc.
< 1214646396 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but instead of displaying each iteration like that
< 1214646422 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i chose to display each iteration by stripping white space and displaying each character as a colored vertical bar
< 1214646426 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that make sense?
< 1214646437 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never seen those phonetically written forms of english letters
< 1214646455 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not phonetically... dunno what the word is
< 1214646467 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well kinda phonetically, anyway, the names for the chars
< 1214646467 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :named letters for english are rare and sketchy
< 1214646483 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that is probably why i haven't found them.
< 1214646487 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those are what im using
< 1214646495 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.90.165 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214646497 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see
< 1214646507 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1214646513 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just run the algorithm
< 1214646514 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the colors?
< 1214646526 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colors correspond to one of the 26 letters
< 1214646526 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is "e"
< 1214646531 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it expands infinitely
< 1214646533 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not problem
< 1214646535 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all do.
< 1214646543 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no reductions.
< 1214646554 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats ok
< 1214646556 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what i wanted
< 1214646559 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its cool tho
< 1214646560 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure, sure, but others expand more interestingly
< 1214646571 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its fractal
< 1214646582 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two versions of the iterations, as you can see
< 1214646587 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one with the left edges aligned
< 1214646592 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other with the right edges aligned
< 1214646598 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type in "a" and click submit
< 1214646610 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't call that a fractal
< 1214646615 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh just wait darlin
< 1214646615 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1214646618 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im getting there
< 1214646635 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice how with the left edges aligned its clear that the nth+1 iteration is just the nth iteration, followed by a bunch of stuff
< 1214646654 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sue
< 1214646655 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1214646660 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now notice that when you align the right edges, the nth+1 iteration is a bunch of stuff followed by most of the right half of the nth iteration
< 1214646675 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the right edge is ALMOST the same behavior as the left edge
< 1214646691 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1214646698 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, the right 2/9 of the nth+1 is the right 2/3 of the nth
< 1214646714 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?
< 1214646720 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean why?
< 1214646739 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for "a" the ratio is about 3 to 1 between the nth+1 and nth iteration in length
< 1214646742 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, you concatenate that part there, or it just happens to be there?
< 1214646749 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, theres no concatenation
< 1214646751 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont you see
< 1214646756 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the algorithm is JUST look-and-tell
< 1214646759 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a
< 1214646760 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay
< 1214646762 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay why
< 1214646766 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay why double you aitch why
< 1214646787 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay why double you aitch why dee oh you bee el ee why oh you ay eye tee cee aitch double you aitch why
< 1214646788 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on
< 1214646805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, right
< 1214646805 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :already you can see some self similarity
< 1214646819 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"double you aitch why" is in the beginning
< 1214646822 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND its the last thing
< 1214646845 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah so you can nest the middle?
< 1214646849 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep!
< 1214646850 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infact
< 1214646853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get a 1d fractal
< 1214646856 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time you do a y
< 1214646865 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y -> why -> double you aitch why
< 1214646869 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gives you another y in the middle
< 1214646878 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus ANOTHER "double you aitch why" at the end
< 1214646887 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus the "y" from expanting "a"
< 1214646900 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus the "y" from expanding the "a" you get from expanding "aitch"
< 1214646909 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on
< 1214646931 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> ay, y -> why, w -> double you, h -> aitch
< 1214646938 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its multiply circular
< 1214646982 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you expand "a" far enough you actually find that it contains a whole copy of itself
< 1214646992 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, its not hard to see why even from the first step
< 1214646992 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, nice, but i still wouldn't call it a fractal unless you let me explore the infinite sequence :P
< 1214647010 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a whole copy of itself?
< 1214647014 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1214647015 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what itself
< 1214647020 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a"?
< 1214647022 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole infinite sequence.
< 1214647028 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we expand "a" to some arbitrary depth N
< 1214647040 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're going to have atleast 1 "a" in that expansion
< 1214647054 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, of course
< 1214647058 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we expand another N times, that "a" expands to the first sequence
< 1214647063 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just didn't know what you meant
< 1214647071 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but theres actually more than one "a" after enough expansions
< 1214647087 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can zoom in on the thing and hey presto, theres another copy of the thing.
< 1214647150 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what i find really interesting is that for "a" and other similar expansions
< 1214647160 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one edge produces full copies
< 1214647171 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n+1 == n then something else
< 1214647171 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if for all mappings x -> y in a look-and-say sequence, y contains x, you can make it a fractal by dividing each character into three pieces, one for the character x in the expanded y, and two for the parts on its left and right side
< 1214647175 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-if
< 1214647183 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while the other edge produces n+1 == some stuff then most of n
< 1214647192 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and theres OVERLAP!
< 1214647208 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole of n creates a whole subpart of n+1 on one side
< 1214647213 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a subpart of n+1 on the other side
< 1214647214 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, if was correct
< 1214647265 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not because it actually does that ofcourse, it just expands each letter
< 1214647271 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the initial condition set up the recursion
< 1214647286 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see it plainly in "a" from step two
< 1214647289 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay -> ay why
< 1214647308 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we get two "y"s from one, and we'll continue to product this over and over
< 1214647359 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me when the fractal can be viewed
< 1214647387 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its already partially viewable by the fact that parts of the nth iteration are the same as other parts
< 1214647419 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fact that the n+1th iteration is the whole nth iteration copied nearly twice and put together with a bit more means that each iteration increases the self similarity
< 1214647445 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho because its one dimensional and complicated, its kind of hard to see the full fractal nature
< 1214647467 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have to go to bed :p
< 1214647472 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night you ::kisscheek::
< 1214647575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a test of whenever tusho reads logs.
< 1214647584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/whenever/if/
< 1214647780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nighti
< 1214647838 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: it has a fractal nature, i just think you're not viewing it fractally enough
< 1214647893 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the sequence 1, 11, 1111, 11111111, 1111111111111111 has a fractal nature, but i wouldn't call it a fractal written like that
< 1214652282 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm.
< 1214652291 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where the w<hole "Science!" thing came out
< 1214653075 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1214653129 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-112-136.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214654058 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214656841 0 :cc_toide!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cctoide
< 1214656868 0 :Polar!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net
< 1214656877 0 :Polar!i=polar@arunprasannan.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214657861 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :
< 1214661141 0 :Slereah!n=hix@ANantes-252-1-11-115.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214661141 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
< 1214662396 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
< 1214662466 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving"
< 1214664050 0 :Dewi!n=dewi@203-217-37-54.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214666116 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-66-31-43-229.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1214668450 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1214668587 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: damn your thing is lame, I'm gonna write mine now just because it sucks so much
< 1214668595 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;)
< 1214668893 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:56:56 <Slereah_> You...
< 1214668893 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:56:57 <Slereah_> You...
< 1214668894 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:57:03 <Slereah_> Ah, yes.
< 1214668894 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:57:06 <Slereah_> Double nigger.
< 1214669099 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving"
< 1214669171 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: IDEA
< 1214669174 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a third version
< 1214669177 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with it aligned to the center
< 1214669181 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it'll be pretty
< 1214669257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I do
< 1214669277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah
< 1214669286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, all of it? or just grepping for your name?
< 1214669292 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all
< 1214669299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could take some time
< 1214669346 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just 4-7 minutes when I logon
< 1214669619 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi
< 1214669621 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*o
< 1214669699 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklopol
< 1214669777 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tush
< 1214669780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1214670784 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklopo
< 1214670785 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l
< 1214670987 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tusho
< 1214671005 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklopol
< 1214671017 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hi tusho
< 1214671036 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hi oklopol
< 1214671038 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't notice you there
< 1214671042 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was too busy saying hi to oklopol
< 1214671057 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :been there
< 1214671089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i occasionally start an infinite loop by hying myself in pm.
< 1214671693 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1214673074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, heh wtf?
< 1214673330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all kinds of fuck
< 1214674477 0 :ihope_____!n=chatzill@pegcompaq.dhcp.rose-hulman.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214674498 0 :ihope_____!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope
< 1214674511 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, a sonic computer.
< 1214674616 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sonic computing would require overcoming the superposition principle, as otherwise signals couldn't interact at all.
< 1214674671 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the key element in a sonic computer would be a bistable. Perhaps something whose resonant frequency changes with the amplitude at which it's vibrating.
< 1214674740 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you play 440Hz at such an element while its resonant frequency is 300Hz, not much will happen. If you increase the amplitude of your 440Hz wave enough, the resonant frequency will "catch", becoming close to 440Hz, and at the same time making the amplitude much higher.
< 1214674797 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you decrease the amplitude of the incoming wave back to where it was before, the element may still be resonating, making its own amplitude of vibration higher than it was originally, in turn making its resonant frequency such that it does indeed resonate.
< 1214675291 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: yes
< 1214675673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting
< 1214675718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, so how would you program it?
< 1214675823 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, each of these elements would work as one bit of data storage. The "power line" would play a constant frequency at a constant amplitude, and these would power the elements. I guess when the elements are resonating with the power, their "output amplitude", whatever that is, will be higher than when they're not.
< 1214675910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, so how would you turn just one element off?
< 1214675917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mechanical switch?
< 1214675925 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if <meta http-equiv='X-UA-Compatible' value='IE=5'> works...
< 1214675930 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, that's deliciously evil and I'm doing it.
< 1214675931 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play the opposite of the power wave into just that one element.
< 1214675935 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IE8 users will feel PAIN!
< 1214675947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what does it do?
< 1214675968 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, hm true
< 1214675969 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To turn just that element on, play the power wave into that element, in addition to the power it normally receives.
< 1214675985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, so a lot of speakers or?
< 1214675995 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: X-UA-Compatible is a Bad Idea. Basically, Microsoft don't like having a standards-compliant rendering engine that actually works by default. So they have a great idea for IE8: put it into emulate-an-older-and-even-more-broken-rendering-engine mode by default!
< 1214676003 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-UA-Compatible lets you choose WHICH version of the engine it will use.
< 1214676013 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's designed for making it use the slightly-better engine, that is IE=8
< 1214676022 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But IE 5 is just good enough at HTML & CSS to totally break my page.
< 1214676022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, also how would you *fetch* a bit?
< 1214676029 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwahahah!
< 1214676035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, does the site work in lynx?
< 1214676041 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes.
< 1214676045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1214676050 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a bunch of speakers, just one thingy that produces a constant wave, the power wave. And some mechanical switches for input, I guess.
< 1214676053 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :semantic markup, styling with css to taste
< 1214676053 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1214676065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, and how do the cpu work?
< 1214676068 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though. AnMaster, stop using lynx. Lynx is a terrible browser that ignores most standards and indeed just plain fails e.g. at tables.
< 1214676073 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use elinks or w3m. Think of the kittens.
< 1214676083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, but it can handle shorttags!
< 1214676088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no other browser can!
< 1214676095 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fetching a bit would consist of attaching another tube to it so the waves it's producing can go somewhere else.
< 1214676095 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think w3m probably can.
< 1214676095 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I know of
< 1214676096 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P
< 1214676100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I tested, it can
< 1214676102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't*
< 1214676120 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: elinks?
< 1214676122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, and how would addition work? or CPU
< 1214676125 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computation would consist of putting two waves together and putting the result in another register.
< 1214676126 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, tested too
< 1214676139 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, i guess you'll have to give up shorttags
< 1214676144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, :('
< 1214676151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I also use konq
< 1214676156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes ff if I have to
< 1214676159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ff sucks
< 1214676164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory hog
< 1214676164 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does ff suck?
< 1214676166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in 3.x
< 1214676175 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, i guess :-P
< 1214676177 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you're low-specced.
< 1214676186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well no, but I prefer to use my ram for other stuff
< 1214676255 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have high waves and low waves of various phases, and you can combine them to make superpositions, and then you can take those superpositions and stuff them through registers to get something that's not a superposition but either a high or a low.
< 1214676299 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something in between if you do it exactly right; ideally, every state of the registers that's between high and low will be an unstable equilibrium.
< 1214676315 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, unstable, anyway; they don't actually have to be equilibria, do they?
< 1214676359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: fun fact - my site will contain no <div>s, <span>s, class=""s or id=""s
< 1214676367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, how could the machine fetch the program from it's own memory?
< 1214676374 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because HTML5 provides a wealth of semantic elements which act exactly like <div>s or <span>s which have semantic meaning
< 1214676376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, <p class="foo"> then?
< 1214676377 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can just style them
< 1214676382 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's a class=""
< 1214676384 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1214676387 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<nav> - navigation
< 1214676388 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<article> - article
< 1214676390 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<section> - section
< 1214676392 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<aside>
< 1214676392 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc
< 1214676396 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1214676398 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<header>, <footer>, ...
< 1214676402 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the program would be stored in the registers somehow, I guess.
< 1214676403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but does browsers handle html5?
< 1214676415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all xhtml...
< 1214676425 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, a lot of them will just ignore the "invalid" tags
< 1214676427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, what about main memory?
< 1214676430 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and still let you style them
< 1214676443 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://rails.intertwingly.net/blog/ has no div,span,class,id
< 1214676444 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's html5
< 1214676449 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works in just about everything
< 1214676456 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check it out
< 1214676459 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Registers are memory.
< 1214676477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, you need a LOT of registers then
< 1214676478 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes it works in ly nx
< 1214676501 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1214676512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Frails.intertwingly.net%2Fblog%2F
< 1214676522 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Duh. That is an HTML 4.01 checker.
< 1214676531 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML 5 isn't actually formally published; but most of it is stable.
< 1214676533 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And usable today.
< 1214676535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1214676552 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It won't be actually formally published until, like, 321023146545 AD, but browsers have supported it for years now.)
< 1214676572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any validator for it then?
< 1214676580 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Frails.intertwingly.net%2Fblog%2F
< 1214676587 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beta, but works fine
< 1214676595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#
< 1214676595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Info: The Content-Type was application/xhtml+xml. Using the XML parser (not resolving external entities).
< 1214676597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, um
< 1214676606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xhtml for html5?
< 1214676606 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what about it?
< 1214676610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems crazy?
< 1214676614 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML5 has two serializations
< 1214676614 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML5
< 1214676616 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and XHTML5
< 1214676620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1214676625 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual language is identical
< 1214676632 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but e.g. sam ruby uses it so he can embed svg and mathml
< 1214676632 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and similar
< 1214676634 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are xml languages
< 1214676647 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing odd about it
< 1214676737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trac-bzr for 0.11 really rocks
< 1214676740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work perfectly
< 1214676749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://envbot.org/trac/browser
< 1214676751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1214676755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dns is just updating
< 1214676758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it may cause issues
< 1214676766 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1214676767 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :issues
< 1214676787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://67.202.82.26/trac/browser
< 1214676789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work
< 1214677015 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I want a linear or nonlinear programming language.
< 1214677021 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't really matter which.
< 1214677098 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"poor old screen, seizing up like crazy"
< 1214677246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, hm?
< 1214677273 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what linear programming and nonlinear programming are?
< 1214677289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, I'm afraid I'm not sure what you mean
< 1214677307 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what such a language would consist of.
< 1214677324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well can you decribe what you mean with those terms?
< 1214677360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, maybe give an example of a linear and a non-linear langauge?
< 1214677392 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that there's such a thing as linear programming, and such a thing as a programming language. I have no idea what a linear programming language would be, but it sounds cool.
< 1214677406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1214677418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, would C be linear or non-linear?
< 1214677445 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think C has anything to do with linear or nonlinear programming language.
< 1214677449 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ language//
< 1214677453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor do I
< 1214677459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I got no idea what those are
< 1214678149 0 :Jafet!n=Jafet@77.246.48.60.kmr02-home.tm.net.my JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214678163 0 :Jafet!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :?
< 1214679075 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=cypher@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214679150 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: mine is awesome, dont be silly
< 1214679159 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: do my suggestion!
< 1214679164 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a center-aligned one
< 1214679167 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it'd be nice
< 1214679228 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in tried it already
< 1214679234 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not, you cant see anything
< 1214679244 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :center aligning without stretching is worthless
< 1214679253 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stretching them to be the same width is also worthless
< 1214679269 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: well just put it up 'cause I wanna see it
< 1214679271 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1214679272 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had high hopes too :(
< 1214679282 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have some other silly ideas too
< 1214679283 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you cant see the self similarities as easily
< 1214679387 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: put it up or i'll never let you rape me again
< 1214679405 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im doin it patiences :P
< 1214679417 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1214679423 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad rape is a good motivator
< 1214679641 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there.
< 1214679664 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host)
< 1214679681 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION trysit
< 1214679700 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh
< 1214679701 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty
< 1214679705 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1214679710 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: let us control how many generations it shows? pweeze? :D
< 1214679711 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont be such a faggot, tusho. :P
< 1214679732 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er.. sure, but i warn you, each generation takes a shitload of time more than the last to display.
< 1214679753 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause, idea for awesome thing:
< 1214679772 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick an X number of generations so that the generated center one is square
< 1214679774 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then
< 1214679777 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do (X/2) generations
< 1214679785 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put it on top of its vertically-reversed self
< 1214679787 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :== awesome
< 1214679930 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1214679971 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: zomg
< 1214679974 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two input strings
< 1214679975 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel special
< 1214679980 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lern2label :-P
< 1214679987 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait.
< 1214680012 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not done so be quite.
< 1214680014 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quiet.
< 1214680156 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the center one doesnt show up because the vertical bands are getting too small to see.
< 1214680260 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::::((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((99999999999
< 1214680305 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: ok then
< 1214680306 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy idea
< 1214680315 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say we have the first generation
< 1214680327 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :find the first character in it
< 1214680335 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do an expansion vertically
< 1214680335 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :find the first occurance of it in the second generation
< 1214680340 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and align the two up
< 1214680344 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat for all future generations
< 1214680345 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1214680363 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to align them
< 1214680375 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thatd show the fractal nature of the thing more clearly, i suppose.
< 1214680401 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing this in JavaScript and HTML is really slow tho. i'd need something more like flash and i dont have flash.
< 1214680414 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell, i dont even know of flash would work
< 1214680424 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be too slow as well
< 1214680435 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: no
< 1214680437 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use <canvas>
< 1214680442 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tons faster
< 1214680466 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it is.
< 1214680480 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can learn it in like 5 minutes.
< 1214680482 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not 5 minutes
< 1214680483 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1214680556 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: what are your colours?
< 1214680556 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p
< 1214680559 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1214680560 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'll do something
< 1214680562 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for letters
< 1214680568 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ive got it, dont worry :P
< 1214680642 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: what, <canvas>?
< 1214680647 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so coolio
< 1214680649 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1214680655 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont worry. give me a few to make it work.
< 1214680656 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this stuff is fun
< 1214681065 0 :Dewi!n=dewi@203-217-37-54.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214681351 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: progress? :P
< 1214681358 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh something changed
< 1214681363 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell by the sores
< 1214681368 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sores changed.
< 1214681371 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, its working fine, im trying to figure out something interesting. silence. :P
< 1214681384 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: i hope you know the sores are open.
< 1214681388 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1214681390 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stops making bad puns
< 1214681717 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-38-219.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214681719 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
< 1214681749 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-38-219.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214682097 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i hosed my browser. lmfao
< 1214682183 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214682183 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
< 1214682376 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg
< 1214682377 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :canvas
< 1214682378 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1214682384 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOA
< 1214682385 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice alart
< 1214682387 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*alert
< 1214682415 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: idea
< 1214682420 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make 'e' go to 'ii'
< 1214682427 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok hold on
< 1214682428 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't ee-explode
< 1214682455 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox keeps fucking caching the whole goddamned page and loading the cache
< 1214682462 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i cant make changes and check them in FF
< 1214682466 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid fucking piece of shit browser
< 1214682467 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude
< 1214682469 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl-f5
< 1214682470 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :durr
< 1214682478 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOULD NOT BE NECESSARY
< 1214682479 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1214682480 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they changed it
< 1214682482 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift-cmd-r
< 1214682483 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P
< 1214682491 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one extra press on yer keyboard
< 1214682493 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you die? :p
< 1214682511 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp
< 1214682512 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that worked
< 1214682524 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ignores the generation count thuough.
< 1214682545 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aand
< 1214682548 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does 'e' totally wrongly
< 1214683517 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: :(
< 1214683525 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hush
< 1214683532 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i tell you i was done?
< 1214683683 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at it now, fine.
< 1214683709 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: is lacking in my idea
< 1214683711 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.<
< 1214683736 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not lacking in your idea
< 1214683738 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my aligning idea)
< 1214683739 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i changed e
< 1214683751 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the center aligning?
< 1214683755 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im working on it. patients.
< 1214683755 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to align generation B with previous generation A:
< 1214683772 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick the first character of A. Find the first occurance of B. Move A to align with the first occurance in B.
< 1214683777 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or the other way around, whatever.)
< 1214683783 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. thats much more complicated.
< 1214683832 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: but it'd show the fractal nature.
< 1214683839 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'd be pretty
< 1214683848 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why dont YOU do it then? :P
< 1214683868 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i am not as awesome as you
< 1214683871 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i wouldn't make it as awesomely
< 1214683873 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh
< 1214683987 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: did that sucking up work
< 1214684001 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.
< 1214684007 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not
< 1214684012 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you like the fractal nature
< 1214684302 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check out the center alignment :)
< 1214684312 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your e is crazy
< 1214684314 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1214684318 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: that's not mine
< 1214684318 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it
< 1214684323 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have thought it'd look different
< 1214684328 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it does
< 1214684332 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put it up
< 1214684333 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1214684334 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its very fractal
< 1214684339 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1214684342 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the bottom one mine
< 1214684343 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e -> ii -> eyeeye
< 1214684351 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the bottom one is just center alignment.
< 1214684362 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is e -> ii better than e -> ee?
< 1214684363 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd think so
< 1214684365 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just repeating sucks
< 1214684383 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the just repeating tho because it adds large spots that behave as delimiters, which grow
< 1214684384 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: hmm
< 1214684387 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after 10 generations it breaks
< 1214684390 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for 'how are you today')
< 1214684394 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just stays the same
< 1214684401 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofcourse
< 1214684408 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the width of the canvas is 1000px
< 1214684412 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: ok, terrible idea -
< 1214684418 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only draws 1000 px of the image
< 1214684418 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you make the replacements list:
< 1214684422 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z, y, x, ...
< 1214684425 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wait
< 1214684427 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll never grow
< 1214684428 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1214684430 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> za
< 1214684433 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b -> yb
< 1214684436 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c -> xc
< 1214684438 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure gimme a second
< 1214684438 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc
< 1214684443 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :down to az
< 1214684912 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i'd really like to see that <.<
< 1214684922 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhh
< 1214685545 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look.
< 1214685855 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1214685884 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: dude just let me specify them without the :
< 1214685886 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay,bee,see
< 1214685889 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.<
< 1214685906 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then what if you want to add other letters?
< 1214685906 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o, and slight bug-report: the middle one. the 6th row is darker than the others
< 1214685911 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry no.
< 1214685917 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know the middle one is wonky.
< 1214685919 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im fixing it.
< 1214685929 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then will you do my idea
< 1214685930 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.<
< 1214685975 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually im making it better in the long run.
< 1214685980 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your idea is hard to do, tusho.
< 1214685984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but cool
< 1214686059 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1214686060 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a:za,b:yb,c:xc,d:wd,e:ve,f:uf,g:tg,h:sh,i:ri,j:qj,k:pk,l:ol,m:nm,n:mn,o:lo,p:kp,q:jq,r:ir,s:hs,t:gt,u:fu,v:ev,w:dw,x:cx,y:by,z:az
< 1214686062 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is so cool
< 1214686079 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially with the centered one
< 1214686095 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and especially with the alphabetic
< 1214686097 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*alphabet
< 1214686119 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the centered one and the alphabet, it kinda fades into oblivion
< 1214686206 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: can you do multiple chars on the LHS
< 1214686207 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like
< 1214686209 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa:a
< 1214686238 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.
< 1214686248 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1214686250 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be cool
< 1214686262 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in the next revision
< 1214686378 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :string rewritinggggg
< 1214686385 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay then i can run my ski in it
< 1214686404 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dances and shit
< 1214686420 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that was my thought
< 1214686423 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn now I have to do that
< 1214686424 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDD
< 1214686446 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do what?
< 1214686453 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :full rewriting
< 1214686457 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1214686479 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh
< 1214686481 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: really nice one
< 1214686481 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a:zz,b:yy,c:xx,d:ww,e:vv,f:uu,g:tt,h:ss,i:rr,j:qq,k:pp,l:oo,m:nn,n:mm,o:ll,p:kk,q:jj,r:ii,s:hh,t:gg,u:ff,v:ee,w:dd,x:cc,y:bb,z:aa
< 1214686497 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1214686514 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.vjn.fi/oklopol/thue.txt is the ski, just do s/\n/,/ and s/::=/:/
< 1214686517 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think
< 1214686523 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and remove cmnts
< 1214686574 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's an easy way to calculate e using Thue.
< 1214686594 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION settles for calculating phi
< 1214686674 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: muture is kind of a linear programming language
< 1214686697 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it involve linear programming?
< 1214686719 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what that is, just max-/minimizing linear functions?
< 1214686723 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1214686756 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :muture has << and >> for "find such values for variables that result of expression min-/maximizes"
< 1214686783 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a simple functional language with those two declarative constructs
< 1214686787 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, and ::
< 1214686792 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some.. stuff
< 1214686793 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway
< 1214686815 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: let's make a language based on string unrewriting
< 1214686816 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it Apathy
< 1214686822 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1214686851 0 :ihope_____!n=chatzill@pegcompaq.dhcp.rose-hulman.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214686866 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: sounds good. it is like thue, except A::=B does *not* rewrite occurrances of A to B.
< 1214686871 0 :ihope_____!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope
< 1214686875 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*g*
< 1214686877 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shut up, freenode.
< 1214686879 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we want turing completeness, though!
< 1214686929 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wouldn't *un*turing completeness be enough?
< 1214686943 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sample of Thue phi: bababbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbababbababbabbababbaba
< 1214686948 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbabbababbabbababbabab
< 1214686954 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice tune
< 1214686958 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bababababa bababababababababababbababa
< 1214686982 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: phi?
< 1214686987 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuzzat golden ratio?
< 1214686991 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1214687058 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps do fib and then unary division?
< 1214687094 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fibonacci should be trivial, and unary division should be just as trivial
< 1214687101 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so really it should be a bit too easy for you
< 1214687102 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This phi isn't good enough?
< 1214687102 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it
< 1214687107 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take some coffee
< 1214687113 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or drink
< 1214687116 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your choise
< 1214687118 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*choice
< 1214687123 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's it?
< 1214687127 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you explain
< 1214687139 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Divide the number of bs by the number of as. You should get phi.
< 1214687148 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes a Thue program that outputs 3.333...
< 1214687151 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really quite easy.
< 1214687163 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: how did you do it?
< 1214687204 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3::=3<*3*; *3*3::=3*3*; *3*>::=3>
< 1214687210 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is, of course, not the best way of doing it.
< 1214687221 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be easier to just say * ::= 3*.
< 1214687241 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1214687245 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders a binary-to-ternary conversion
< 1214687253 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1214687257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use wildcards in thue replacements?!
< 1214687259 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all makes sense now ...
< 1214687261 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.
< 1214687269 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* isn't a wildcard, it's just a character.
< 1214687270 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1214687271 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see!
< 1214687274 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thats clever
< 1214687276 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fucking clever.
< 1214687286 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, I guess. :-)
< 1214687288 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: what is that started on?
< 1214687299 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.<3>, I believe.
< 1214687304 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch this!
< 1214687324 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.::=.3;::=;3.
< 1214687324 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you replaced the <3> with <12345>, it would give you 3.123451234512345..., except it doesn't know about 1, 2, 4 and 5.
< 1214687329 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1214687331 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't output it.
< 1214687346 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: i don't get it, you just create an infinite sequence of 3's?
< 1214687350 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1214687361 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: dude he's asking how you did phi
< 1214687363 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, <3::=3< ?
< 1214687367 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean
< 1214687370 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< ::= 3<
< 1214687378 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.<
< 1214687392 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: nope.
< 1214687394 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works.
< 1214687405 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you obfuscated, failed or... are weird?
< 1214687501 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it more general. Except it still only works with 3s, so that's really less general than one would hope.
< 1214687518 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easily extensible to include 4s as well!
< 1214687520 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho
< 1214687524 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur
< 1214687525 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: like how?
< 1214687525 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a:zz,... is boring...
< 1214687534 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever
< 1214687535 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1214687538 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude
< 1214687539 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean, generate and infinite sequence of certain characters?
< 1214687540 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just stripes
< 1214687545 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1214687547 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like stripes
< 1214687550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< ::= sequence<
< 1214687551 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1214687554 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emofag
< 1214687557 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: why not that one?
< 1214687559 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl
< 1214687582 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it turns out I am weird after all.
< 1214687590 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1214687593 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-)
< 1214687609 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't really read yours, but i suck at reading code anyway
< 1214687661 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdf, games are so boring to code
< 1214687674 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no instant gratification, unlike with, say, parsers and interps :o
< 1214687686 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah
< 1214687698 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: our next languages should make game programming awesome
< 1214687701 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y/n
< 1214687710 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders how possible it is to convert binary into ternary in Thue
< 1214687711 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y
< 1214687730 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: its 100% possible
< 1214687733 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thue is tc
< 1214687742 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i'm actually designing something like that already, but i'm designing about a hundred languages so no surprise prolly
< 1214687743 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. It may not be easy, though.
< 1214687750 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it aint easy i can guarantee that
< 1214687755 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: unary
< 1214687763 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes but we would be together
< 1214687764 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How inefficient. :-)
< 1214687767 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I would kind of push my idea
< 1214687769 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pps'es are painfully hard to use
< 1214687770 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'd push yours
< 1214687773 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: granted
< 1214687774 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we'd blend into one
< 1214687775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kaboom
< 1214687775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1214687801 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, yes, let's push each others' and explode
< 1214687808 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear
< 1214687811 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that DID come out wrong
< 1214687832 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopols mine! >O
< 1214687835 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::stabs tusho::
< 1214687841 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks about base conversion in thue now, ihope better not do it first.
< 1214687868 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What's 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 in binary?" "Just a sec..." *writes down 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 zeros*
< 1214687878 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh.
< 1214687888 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not correct :(
< 1214687919 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, it's actually pretty easy
< 1214687941 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm converting the part after the decimal, by the way.
< 1214687941 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope cant convert to base 2 :D
< 1214687947 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P
< 1214687955 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just taking my time, I'm sure. :-)
< 1214687959 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part after the decimal onverts easilly
< 1214687962 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 0 in both :P
< 1214687974 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, I'm actually thinking of a rather different thing.
< 1214687977 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps augur
< 1214687984 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid slap.
< 1214688007 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With two support, I intend to slap augur.
< 1214688014 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I support.
< 1214688024 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teh Cltohed Mna supports.
< 1214688034 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tec Cltohed Mna can't support.
< 1214688038 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only oklopol gets to slap me.
< 1214688041 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: just do "tripart | head rest" -> "tripart <doubledigits> <carry> head <add> | rest", roughly
< 1214688046 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Yes he  can.
< 1214688050 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and iterate until "head rest" = ""
< 1214688051 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is #esotericgora
< 1214688065 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean #esoteragora.
< 1214688076 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<> are rpn function turtles that do the operation to what's to the left of them
< 1214688076 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or #agoraric. :-P
< 1214688096 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<add> is just <inc> or <nop> depending on the binary digit in question
< 1214688108 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That can't be right. It's too easy.
< 1214688126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thue can be used pretty modularly
< 1214688157 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to do quite a bit of tricks, so don't expect it to take less than an hour
< 1214688161 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the gist of it
< 1214688170 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that works pretty nicely.
< 1214688174 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trinary | binary, and start with "" | "binpart"
< 1214688179 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to do it differently, though.
< 1214688185 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for it
< 1214688191 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carrying all your state with you, rather than spitting it out behind you.
< 1214688213 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i like my solution in that it doesn't force determinism
< 1214688230 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, that's basically the same, i just wanted something easily explainable
< 1214688264 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn i hate it when there's something i'm supposed to do, i can't do anything fun, but i won't do the boring thing i have to do anyway
< 1214688276 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION walks across the Michigan border, then gets charged for littering by discarding Michigan rather than disposing of it in the proper receptacles
< 1214688300 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, that's how it goes.
< 1214688330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: explain phi
< 1214688383 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: also, "tripart | head rest" -> "head | tripart <doubledigits> <carry> head <add> | rest" it's just about not losing your head
< 1214688387 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ratio of each Fibonacci number to the preceding one approaches phi as the Fibonacci numbers approach infinity. 1 + phi = phi^2.
< 1214688397 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And phi = (1 + sqrt(5))/2.
< 1214688402 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see fibs in the sequence
< 1214688420 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The abbababbabbababbababbabbababbabbabab sequence?
< 1214688427 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeAH
< 1214688430 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yeah
< 1214688437 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs that through a text-to-speech
< 1214688463 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha
< 1214688475 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214688483 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a represents 1, b represents phi. When everything is multiplied by phi (> or < passes through), 1 becomes phi (a becomes b) and phi becomes phi^2 = 1 + phi (b becomes ab).
< 1214688488 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, Corun, fellow pirate
< 1214688491 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho
< 1214688492 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :updated.
< 1214688526 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, this might be able to represent arbitrary algebraic integers...
< 1214688548 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: what ahppened
< 1214688553 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1214688573 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: and you start with ab?
< 1214688581 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You start with a.
< 1214688659 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a::=b, b::=ab
< 1214688660 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1214688681 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho! >|
< 1214688688 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you change augur
< 1214688700 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drawing mechanism. i abstracted out a drawing function.
< 1214688702 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less.
< 1214688716 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes the drawing correct every time.
< 1214688726 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>a::=b>, >b::=ab>, actually, and the same when the pointer's moving in the other direction, with reversers on each side.
< 1214688730 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike before, with the error on the 6+nth iteration
< 1214688740 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: right, of course
< 1214688751 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was on a conceptually higher level
< 1214688817 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yarr, ok1opo1
< 1214688829 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. This corresponds to the equations a = k*b, b = k*(a+b), I think...
< 1214690082 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :
< 1214691761 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb
< 1214691920 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho!
< 1214691922 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check it out now :D
< 1214692093 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funk's my WHAT?!
< 1214692286 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it's "cheese"
< 1214692389 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realises that "Funk's Yo' Brother" may not be well known in ForeignLand
< 1214692431 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.90.165 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214692507 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep"
< 1214692525 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"funk's yo' brother"? to me it's always sounded more like "my funk's so brava", where I assumed "brava" was some slang I just didn't know
< 1214692531 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know stuff that's known in XLand for any value of X.
< 1214692561 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I could be wrong
< 1214692561 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're referring to the line of that song, whatever song it is
< 1214692566 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1214692598 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i've heard that
< 1214692599 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably know better than me though :)
< 1214692627 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Funk Soul Brother, Check It Out Now
< 1214692628 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Funk Soul Brother, Right About Now"
< 1214692634 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the internet
< 1214692641 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1214692650 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funk soul brother? that makes no sense
< 1214692656 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo says it pretty clearly
< 1214692713 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: anyway, i'll go with cheese
< 1214692834 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, this is probably the most boring song ever.
< 1214692841 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho!
< 1214692885 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFfBr_u5nw0
< 1214693071 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: lulwhut?
< 1214693087 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xln?
< 1214693326 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Killed (NickServ (Comando GHOST usato da DIO))"
< 1214693345 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.90.165 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214693547 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My. There's a sound file in a web page, I click play, it plays about 1/5 of the way through, then it stops, and about 10 seconds later, it starts back up again, but now it's 4/5 of the way through.
< 1214693559 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BACK
< 1214693611 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: fuck
< 1214693612 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's awesome
< 1214693615 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1214693631 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :centered one is still bugged
< 1214693633 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some lines are shaded out
< 1214693637 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1214693646 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: try:
< 1214693648 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'hello', '10'
< 1214693655 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first,second,third,fifth,sixth
< 1214693657 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lines are darker
< 1214693665 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, theyre just blurry
< 1214693673 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh
< 1214693673 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1214693679 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: will you do my idea now
< 1214693682 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I bet that was harder
< 1214693684 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :P
< 1214693688 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its too hard to do your idea.
< 1214693691 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't
< 1214693692 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez
< 1214693696 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll even write it out in pseudocode if you want
< 1214693696 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is :P
< 1214693704 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i do that will you do it
< 1214693704 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, a = k*b and b = k*(a + b).
< 1214693708 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even remember your idea :D
< 1214693737 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then k = a/b = 1/phi.
< 1214693779 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then we just need to differentiate something.
< 1214693792 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, the vertical versions actually let you see some of the fractal nature
< 1214693803 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of.
< 1214693807 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: but mine would too
< 1214693807 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like
< 1214693810 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :severely
< 1214693811 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1214693813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1214693815 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudocode and you do it
< 1214693815 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really :P
< 1214693816 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deal?
< 1214693820 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure
< 1214693842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1214693888 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: link
< 1214693915 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wellnowwhat.net/alphabeticalseesay.xhtml
< 1214693928 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: one letter is one pixel, right?
< 1214693946 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically yes
< 1214693950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: ok then
< 1214693950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The previous generation is P.
< 1214693950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The just-calculated generation is G.
< 1214693950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let C = P[0].
< 1214693951 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find the first occurance of C in G. The position at which it is found is Z.
< 1214693951 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put G at Z pixels in from the start of P.
< 1214693953 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This could also be done reversed or whatever.)
< 1214694029 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean g pixels to the left of the start of p.
< 1214694079 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, i want you to draw this out visually so you can see what its going to do
< 1214694085 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i dont think itll do what you think itll do
< 1214694093 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean g pixels to the left of the start of p.
< 1214694098 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't
< 1214694114 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then you're not showing the fractal nature.
< 1214694121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine then
< 1214694127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it g pixels to the left of the start of p
< 1214694127 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well its true
< 1214694131 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but g is a string
< 1214694138 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't know how you can have "g pixels"
< 1214694155 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, c. :P
< 1214694163 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1214694165 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z
< 1214694166 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: C is a character
< 1214694169 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1214694172 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant stand your pseudocode, it sucks.
< 1214694173 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z pixels in left of the start of p
< 1214694175 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I meant
< 1214694176 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1214694267 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i think what would show the fractal nature even better is if each time i expand a letter, inside an expansion of itself, i darken the sub expansion
< 1214694273 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then
< 1214694275 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds good
< 1214694287 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but let me figure out how im going to do that because itll be tricky
< 1214694433 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is gonna involve a significant change. i hate you. >.<
< 1214694716 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214695312 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it going augur
< 1214695321 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :painfully. :P
< 1214695323 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be patient.
< 1214695346 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders what you're supposed to differentiate in a = k*b, b = k*(a + b), k = a/b = 1/phi
< 1214695371 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want a/b = 1/phi to be a stable equilibrium, so it's kind of the derivative of a/b with respect to a/b.
< 1214695384 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it's the derivative of the a/b on the right with respect to the a/b on the left.
< 1214695446 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it the other way around?
< 1214695475 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what the problem is since there is no derivation mentioned that he can see
< 1214695515 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tive
< 1214695529 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"problemtive"
< 1214695548 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :problemtive awesome
< 1214695560 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps oklopol with a troutive
< 1214695628 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = k*b, b = k*(a + b) implies b = k*(k*b + b) or k*k + k = 1
< 1214695647 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that help you?
< 1214695679 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming b /= 0)
< 1214695715 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this awful MATHEMATICS doing in #esoteric
< 1214695717 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;)
< 1214695730 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: HOWISITGOINGNOW
< 1214695744 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was weirdly put
< 1214695761 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could say b = 0 or k^2 + k - 1 = 0
< 1214695769 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rright?
< 1214695776 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1214695786 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wonderizing
< 1214695799 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "or" really means, "so"
< 1214695803 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1214695808 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what colour should my links be
< 1214695809 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1214695815 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polkadot!
< 1214695828 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think css3 has something for that
< 1214695837 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it does it certainly isn't implemented by anything
< 1214695845 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont make me rape you tusho
< 1214695848 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[that there was a Web Designer Joke]
< 1214695850 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[they're very bad.]
< 1214695853 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[on average.]
< 1214695901 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah
< 1214695934 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume k = 1/phi is one of the solutions to k^2 + k - 1 = 0, cannot be bothered to check
< 1214695981 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: in any case, i don't see any need for differentiating
< 1214695981 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyone have any real, solid, distinct colours representable by six hex digits?
< 1214695987 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as interpreted as rgb values.
< 1214696032 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff0000 = red, surely
< 1214696036 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. etc.
< 1214696062 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffff00 = yellow
< 1214696073 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes
< 1214696081 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 007700 = a rather bland green
< 1214696085 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, every step, f(B) becomes f(A) and f(A) + f(B) becomes f(B).
< 1214696089 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you mean not polkadot
< 1214696100 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Links can only be one colour. :P
< 1214696106 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well
< 1214696107 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the idea is to show that B/A = phi is a stable equilibrium.
< 1214696109 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do some kind of horrific JS hack
< 1214696110 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just no
< 1214696114 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: um so = is _assignment_?
< 1214696162 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pretend I never said anything except my last two messages.
< 1214696179 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: i see.  this is a property of matrices with positive entries
< 1214696190 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right.
< 1214696202 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a unique positive eigenvalue with eigenvector (up to scale)
< 1214696215 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this one? [[1,1][0,1]]^n?
< 1214696226 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that
< 1214696245 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't remember the name of the theorem
< 1214696271 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, solving for eigenvectors and changing base is one way i think
< 1214696311 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some M^n should have strictly positive entries
< 1214696324 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no zeroes)
< 1214696332 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although M itself can have zeroes
< 1214696345 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Square it and you get [[1,2][0,1]], multiply that by the original and you get [[1,3][0,1]]... something like that.
< 1214696367 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perron%E2%80%93Frobenius_theorem
< 1214696392 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it's triangular
< 1214696414 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that messes it up, the zero never disappears
< 1214696426 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-66-31-43-229.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1214696466 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there is a version for matrices with zeros later
< 1214696523 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you think about #4444AA, then?
< 1214696730 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bright blue?
< 1214696749 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, bright is not the right word
< 1214696836 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
< 1214696853 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://xs128.xs.to/xs128/08266/picture5214.png
< 1214696863 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ignore the rather odd filler text)
< 1214696920 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i intend to write something about the Universal Edit Button which explains the title/subtitle, then I just started writing crap to fill up)
< 1214696929 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(better than lorem ipsum)
< 1214696962 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that is not far from my default link color i think
< 1214696981 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1214697031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit brighter than my default
< 1214697064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not sure what the exact difference is, all i know is yours looks happier.
< 1214697085 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(noting that i never have changed the default.  i do like blue after all.)
< 1214697119 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1214697121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brighter?
< 1214697130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the default pure blue?
< 1214697136 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,0,255
< 1214697156 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, isn't it a bit darker?
< 1214697175 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\
< 1214697185 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: happier. all i know.
< 1214697193 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: and more subtle, right
< 1214697199 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm actually yes
< 1214697201 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flows better with the text?
< 1214697240 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would recommend leaving it to the web browser.
< 1214697253 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you are keeping that black-on-white look
< 1214697258 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: #0000FF is horrible
< 1214697266 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't flow with text properly at all
< 1214697271 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is way too harhs
< 1214697273 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*harsh
< 1214697287 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, browser's typography generally sucks hard and makes stuff hard to read
< 1214697290 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I overrid a lot of that too
< 1214697319 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not a "black-on-white" look really, just a whitespace-driven look
< 1214697462 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
< 1214697508 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: incidentally you probably can use the Perron-Frobenius theorem to calculate the limit letter frequencies of your alphabetical look-and-say sequence
< 1214697518 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the what?
< 1214697531 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i pointed ihope to for his problem
< 1214697568 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works for all sorts of substitution-like things