< 1215129716 0 :revcompgeek!i=cd762047@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1d06b8ff31022d20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215129731 0 :revcompgeek!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1215130114 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1215130300 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/info/6q5cc/comments/c04kmyx grrr < 1215133269 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1215133315 0 :Deformalite!n=joe@c-68-62-76-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215133966 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215134486 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sup, folks? < 1215134666 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: The sky; as always < 1215134684 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends on your point of view < 1215135803 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1215138611 0 :revcompgeek!i=42ec44fd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bf01b22467e7517e JOIN :#esoteric < 1215138621 0 :revcompgeek!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1215138659 0 :revcompgeek!i=42ec44fd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-013324ef382b50ad JOIN :#esoteric < 1215138665 0 :revcompgeek!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1215140383 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-66-31-43-229.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215140428 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mutters about how Def-BF will kick ass < 1215140509 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq < 1215140522 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, as you said before, it's gonna kick ass < 1215140577 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody paid much attention when I originally created the spec, so I thought it would languish in dusty folders forever < 1215140651 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I thought it would kick ass, but that I didn't have the knowledge to actually implement it back then. . . < 1215140658 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. . . Now I do. < 1215140664 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo < 1215140671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray, knowledge! < 1215141289 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1215143064 0 :ihope!n=chatzill@12.187.234.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215143123 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sugar Cane Nomic is invading. >:-) < 1215143129 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm not Deewiant or Dewin or any of the other names that trigger my highlight all the time < 1215143132 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose that players be able to give points to each other. < 1215143175 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Deewiant only triggers the highlight when Deewiant is asking who I am < 1215143201 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, Deformalite. < 1215143432 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, how is sugar cane nomic invading? < 1215143437 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, ##nomic < 1215143458 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's invading by being in this channel rather than ##nomic. :-P < 1215143474 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1215145781 0 :Parma-Quendion!n=Quendion@145.175.adsl.brightview.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215146087 0 :Quendus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215147035 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come ##nomic only has two #s? < 1215147062 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a rule for it... < 1215147101 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rules are meant to be broken! < 1215147639 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215147757 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION files a criminal CFJ against lament for that statement. < 1215147803 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know postscript. Does anyone have any interesting project ideas for me to try to tackle? < 1215147831 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past, I've made a handful of things like my self-randomizing bingo card: http://rodger.nonlogic.org/games/bingo.ps < 1215148012 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1215150925 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me, is it normal for you feet to itch the first day you wear new shoes? < 1215151612 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, were your feet itching the last time you wore new shoes? /me thinks it's normal for feet to feel strange, but not to itch.. < 1215151675 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I can't give a normal experience with shoes, I have a severe allergy. < 1215151687 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oO < 1215151861 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought I might not be allergic to these shoes. < 1215151872 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm getting preliminary symptoms that suggest I could be. < 1215151969 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :New shoes usually feel weird, but not itchy < 1215151977 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why don't socks protect you? < 1215152020 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm allergic to chromium, and a layer of non-chromium-tanned leather isn't sufficient to protect me, so socks are worthless. < 1215152064 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can add microfibers to the list of materials I can't wear. So, I'm looking for those elusive non-leather, non-synthetic-leather, non-microfiber shoes. That leaves, what, moccasins and clogs. < 1215152106 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can that allergy actually hurt you? Or is it merely uncomfortable? < 1215152131 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suffice to say that I've had to throw out a lot of socks because I couldn't clean the blood out of them. < 1215152153 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we have a clog in the channel, but only one... < 1215152194 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION winces for GregorR  < 1215152226 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many people have this allergy? Not enough for shoemakers to care? < 1215152437 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximately 0% :P < 1215152458 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only found statistics within certain populations that have a high exposure to chrome, and even in those fields it's less than 1%. < 1215152553 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, here we go: "he prevalence of Cr(VI) sensitivity among the general U.S. population is estimated to be 0.08%." < 1215152605 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's specifically hexavalent chromium (the toxic variety), and I'm allergic to all forms of chromium (including the non-toxic kind that's used for tanning) < 1215152621 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO, suffice to say I won the really-effing-annoying-allergy lottery. < 1215153487 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than being allergic to nothing because you have no immune system.. < 1215154007 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're special < 1215154029 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm allergic to nothing < 1215154063 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood, have a healthy immune system? < 1215154342 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :PaulKarason < 1215154344 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1215154353 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least afaik < 1215154422 0 :PaulKarason!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1215154897 0 :cc_toide!n=fortytwo@87-196-192-211.net.novis.pt JOIN :#esoteric < 1215155148 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been a while since i've been here, eh < 1215155811 0 :cctoide!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215155915 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm|--0@122-57-233-220.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1215157694 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Remote closed the previous member app" < 1215158399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1215158400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1215158908 0 :Slereah_!n=hix@ANantes-252-1-15-209.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215159262 0 :timmytron!n=timothy@adsl-69-152-213-65.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215159374 0 :timmytron!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1215159374 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215159377 0 :Slereah_!n=hix@ANantes-252-1-15-209.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215159920 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215159931 0 :Slereah_!n=hix@ANantes-252-1-15-209.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215160492 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215160511 0 :Slereah_!n=hix@ANantes-252-1-15-209.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215161076 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1215161442 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: i dreamt about you < 1215161524 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:12… Deewiant: http://www.math.sfu.ca/~cbm/errh/101_analysis_bedtime_stories_(epsilon_red_riding_hood).pdf <<< ha! i knew someone would link this sooner or later < 1215161894 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome, what happened? < 1215162084 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: i was here, talking to you about your new conlang. < 1215162104 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason, all its ideas were from lalna, my own conlang... < 1215162128 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:55… GregorR: Tell me, is it normal for you feet to itch the first day you wear new shoes? <<< no, you freak!! < 1215162172 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: does that mean you identify me with that part of yourself that creates conlangs? < 1215162347 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's this guy on #c++.fi that was talking about how he loves watching scat porn in another dream of mine... < 1215162383 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i identify him with the part of me that loves watching scat porn < 1215162387 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wasn't too pleased < 1215162454 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm having more and more irc dreams lately < 1215162492 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice part is i can now say for sure it's bullshit you can't read stuff multiple times in your dreams without it changing < 1215162608 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: where did you see the link btw? the guy who linked to me was finnish too, and it was not that long ago, perhaps there's a simple chain < 1215162626 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love chains, i want to be an irc god < 1215162736 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hawt < 1215162802 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never remember dreams :( < 1215162842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1215162929 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably have hot oklopol scat sex < 1215163534 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely < 1215163545 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't imagine why you wouldn't < 1215164274 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host6-89-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1215166105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215166439 0 :Deformalite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215167567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm having more and more irc dreams lately < 1215167569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1215167597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Deewiant: where did you see the link btw? the guy who linked to me was finnish too, and it was not that long ago, perhaps there's a simple chain < 1215167603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now I linked that to a few other places < 1215168136 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy dudes. < 1215168146 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I found an error in one of Gdel's paper < 1215168152 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I email him? < 1215168799 0 :olsner!n=salparot@81-237-210-158-no50.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215170796 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215171557 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@195-5-95-34.usul.arrakis.es JOIN :#esoteric < 1215171772 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215171788 0 :Slereah_!n=hix@ANantes-252-1-15-209.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215172150 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-046-114.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1215173020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, heh? < 1215173025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you found an error? < 1215173029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1215173060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, also isn't he dead? < 1215173476 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host6-89-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1215174097 0 :cc_toide!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cctoide < 1215175023 0 :ihope!n=chatzill@12.187.234.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215175610 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Email him, FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE < 1215175625 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He describes a function b < 1215175662 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"b(0,x)=b(x,0)=0 and b(x,y)=1 when x,y>0" < 1215175671 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then goes on to say that b is the or function < 1215175943 0 :Corun!n=Corun@92.8.253.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215176683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, sounds more like "and" to me? < 1215176702 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check for erratas? < 1215176900 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I could answer you but you're not here, dammit! < 1215176943 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No erratum < 1215176951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, answer what? < 1215176961 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But well, it isn't very important, as one can just as easily build logical operator with not and and < 1215176971 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-07-04 12:33:17 ( AnMaster) Deewiant: where did you see the link btw? the guy who linked to me was finnish too, and it was not that long ago, perhaps there's a simple chain < 1215177060 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the 4th of July. < 1215177073 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you blew up stuff, like the Founding Fathers want you to? < 1215177099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, we are not from America < 1215177108 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm from Sweden and Slereah_ is from Finland < 1215177114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so stop being so US centric < 1215177117 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no Finn :( < 1215177124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1215177126 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant Deewiant is < 1215177127 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm no US man either < 1215177139 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am partial to blowing stuff up. < 1215177447 0 :Corun_!n=Corun@92.9.82.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215177746 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1215178603 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215179303 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia has no article with a list of people that have the nickname "Butcher". < 1215179318 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in "The Butcher of [place]" < 1215179730 0 :Corun__!n=Corun@92.12.202.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215180297 0 :oklopol!i=oko@194.251.102.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215180570 0 :Corun__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun < 1215180728 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215182072 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokoko < 1215182085 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what color am i? < 1215182764 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-66-31-43-229.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215182900 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :White, you Finn. < 1215183007 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1215183043 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215183207 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ah, excellent, you're here. < 1215183221 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so, in response to your question, I saw it on reddit and posted it to two IRC channels I'm on. < 1215183259 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these channels the two channels whois shows you're one? < 1215183271 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*on < 1215183367 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: clever answer, i didn't actually remember skin color existed < 1215183383 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought someone might cheat by using whatever color they see my nick as < 1215183399 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was even cheatier < 1215183577 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: on IRCnet, they are, so probably not < 1215183623 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so esoteric wasn't one of those two? < 1215183663 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also you're only on one channel there, publicly) < 1215183673 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so # prolly was the other one) < 1215183714 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which channel is that < 1215183726 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, actually < 1215183730 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is on quakenet < 1215183734 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other on ircnet < 1215183736 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bad < 1215183739 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ce01-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215184049 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on quakenet, you're on no public channel < 1215184100 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they're private :-) < 1215184184 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes his magnifying glass and starts snooping < 1215184263 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can tell me the nick of the guy you heard it from I can tell you whether he's in either of the channels where I announced the PDF < 1215184325 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AKX < 1215184331 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1215184348 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he linked it ages before you, now i'm just being curious. < 1215184368 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, probably, he saw it on reddit as well. :-) < 1215184381 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was at the top of the math subreddit. < 1215184533 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have preferred it with a bit more math, now it was more about just knowing what theorems have to do with what, and what names form punny funs. < 1215184540 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/names/terms/ < 1215184573 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a bedtime story after all, so it can't be too complex. :-) < 1215184615 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of it was real! < 1215184686 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only little imaginary stuff < 1215184700 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess real stuff will always be complex stuff, tho. < 1215184718 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should really get to work < 1215184732 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep up the good work and shit ------> < 1215185153 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.109.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215185178 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1215185179 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tusho < 1215185181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you win < 1215185191 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only by a few fractions of a second at my end, though < 1215185193 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, by any count < 1215185202 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by about 20 seconds at mine < 1215185297 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 2 seconds at mine < 1215185317 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the message only arrived 25 seconds after you joined < 1215185324 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1215185327 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my client seems to WHO everyone < 1215185339 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, each of our clients log to the second when we hit enter < 1215185341 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the measure < 1215185992 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/info/6pxzk/comments/c04k6o5 makes me sad < 1215186583 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1215186593 0 :jix!n=jix@host-091-096-147-004.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1215186606 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh man < 1215186606 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{It's not available for download yet. Which makes me suspect that this year's challenge will be writing "Hello World" on a system that has been so insidiously corrupted that it would make Ken Thompson faint.} < 1215186608 0 :Corun_!n=Corun@92.12.31.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215186610 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like something you'd do < 1215186644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: where's that from? < 1215186647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which competition? < 1215186651 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ICFP 2008 < 1215186657 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when is it? < 1215186659 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit thread < 1215186664 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amd < 1215186666 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a response to: < 1215186667 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{I'm going to grab this CD just to see what a proper Linux development setup looks like! :)} < 1215186675 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the submission was < 1215186675 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.icfpcontest.org/rules.html < 1215186696 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, next Friday < 1215186703 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be interesting to put a team together for that < 1215186708 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of #esotericers < 1215186719 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1215186723 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not really < 1215186731 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be in on it so we'd spend the whole time arguing < 1215186739 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they have restrictions on what language you can use < 1215186747 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that means you can't choose C and write an interp in it and use that? < 1215186750 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1215186766 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you can < 1215186768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been done in the past < 1215186778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm going to request INTERCAL as a matter of course... < 1215186785 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, maybe not < 1215186812 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, shinh's in #icfp-contest < 1215186969 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215186989 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.109.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215187000 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a better question - < 1215187002 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where ISN'T shinh? < 1215187043 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1215187047 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anagolf down? < 1215187080 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no < 1215187191 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215187468 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Whee. < 1215187479 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sup? < 1215187507 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concerning the idea of adding label:. . . < 1215187522 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could we say that a function may also be used as a label? < 1215187563 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like in assembly, how it honestly doesn't *care* whether the address being jumped to is a function or not) < 1215187595 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. well, functions have header code related to calling the function < 1215187625 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never said that I'd recommend using one as the other is *sane*. < 1215187626 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe the function should be usable as a label immediately after the header? < 1215187652 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying that this makes it easier, I think, to compile to assembly. < 1215187666 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a decent idea, we just need to come up with at least one case where it would be useful, and then design around that < 1215187693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not actually useful, it's just easier to compile. Infinitely. :p < 1215187695 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we can't come up with any cases where it's useful, it's added complexity that we want to avoid < 1215187699 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1215187702 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Self-modifying code, dude. < 1215187703 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually, there is one case. < 1215187705 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And code hidden in data. < 1215187707 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And vise-versa. < 1215187716 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modifying data to modify code. < 1215187717 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vise-versa. < 1215187718 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tusho got it. < 1215187722 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: write a little proof-of-concept or something < 1215187745 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here apart from tusho fancy entering the ICFP in a #esoteric team? < 1215187753 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't fancy it < 1215187755 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215187755 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said why :p < 1215187758 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1215187779 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how badly that would go too, so that's why I said "apart from tusho" < 1215187786 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of anything, I just don't think our way of coding overlaps at all < 1215187788 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all of #esoteric < 1215187811 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, for a start, language. < 1215187821 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For every language someone uses in here, another person vehemently hates it. < 1215187826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be great to actually win with an INTERCAL program < 1215187835 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would never happen < 1215187839 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but just entering one would be fun < 1215187839 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but nobody here can code INTERCAL but you, ais523. :p < 1215187847 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's not that hard to learn < 1215187913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm willing to teach it over IRC to anyone who's willing to learn < 1215187913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215187917 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Care to link to Def-BF again? < 1215187930 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ce01-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215187958 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Fri Jul 4 2008] [16:10:47] tusho: it's not that hard to learn < 1215187960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Fri Jul 4 2008] [16:11:16] I'm willing to teach it over IRC to anyone who's willing to learn < 1215187967 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen it. < 1215187971 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1215187971 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even so < 1215187978 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't sure, because my connection was playing up about then < 1215187984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an irc channel by nature is almost entirely too eclectic to manage anything like this < 1215187987 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's tight-knit < 1215187991 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm willing to teach it to anyone who's willing to learn anyway < 1215187991 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you consider this is #esoteric... < 1215188006 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it would be possible to get a 24-hour coding effort going < 1215188016 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you should really save these to your computer or something: http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1215028173.html < 1215188023 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1215106118.html < 1215188082 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point, the fibonacci sequence generator is becoming a more accurate and complete reference to the high-level language, so I suspect I'll need to revise the spec soon < 1215188110 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: will you teach face-to-face? < 1215188133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: only if someone happens to be in the same place in RL at the time < 1215188180 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :over IRC's just as easy, though < 1215188189 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as it means that you don't have to crowd on computers < 1215188198 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines #esoteric denizens meeting each other and shudders < 1215188210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that would be bad, probably < 1215188278 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215188282 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 'Well, I think this pizza should have X topping, because it's tastier.' / 'But Y is faster to eat!' / 'Let's roll a dice.' / 'OK, can I borrow your laptop?' *tap tap tap tap random.org* < 1215188284 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*die < 1215188303 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often randomize my choices < 1215188304 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215188312 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes life so much easier < 1215188315 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I even have a set of polyhedral dice on me right now < 1215188323 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1215188324 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not because I need them, but because I forgot to remove them from my laptop case < 1215188330 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, the joke was that you would use random.org and not a real ie. < 1215188331 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*die < 1215188333 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1215188345 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph, you know your life isn't perfect when you can't just decide to go to birmingham at a whim. < 1215188361 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could probably just go to birmingham at a whim < 1215188363 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1215188394 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i use python for randomization < 1215188403 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i call it a die occasionally. < 1215188405 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that's a PSRNG < 1215188407 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1215188409 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRNG < 1215188414 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random.org is a real RNG < 1215188419 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should alter nomicdice_ to enter #esoteric, but it's a PRNG too < 1215188429 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need botte < 1215188431 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could use hotbits < 1215188446 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215188451 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: there's no difference < 1215188458 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes there is < 1215188463 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's that? < 1215188472 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotbits' atomic decay is pretty much fundamental randomness. < 1215188479 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a computer just does some arithmetic based on the time. < 1215188487 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all randomness is fundamental until proven otherwise < 1215188495 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one cheap way to get a true-random number is through the sound input when there's no soundcard connected < 1215188503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just pick up thermal drift, that way < 1215188512 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudorandom works just as well < 1215188528 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liek hotbits < 1215188532 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's silly < 1215188603 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure thing < 1215188687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hi! < 1215188693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how goes ffungi? < 1215188703 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I haven't updated it recently < 1215188709 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly due to having nowhere to easily code < 1215188712 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on a sofa at the moment < 1215188715 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not ideal for coding on < 1215188738 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead I ran through the C-INTERCAL manual and corrected lots of typos < 1215188746 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including a couple which were pretty nasty < 1215188748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, heh < 1215188751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what? < 1215188762 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like accidentally comparing select to OR rather than AND < 1215188768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and saying all variables were read-only by default < 1215188768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1215188782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second is exactly wrong, btw, all variables are read-write by default < 1215188808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well TURT works apart from bg color now < 1215188815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I can't easily find how to fix < 1215188822 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not exactly wrong < 1215188827 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly wrong would be all variables are write-only < 1215188834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1215188844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read-only and read-write are the only possibilities in INTERCAL at the moment < 1215188865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is the intercal code self modifiable? < 1215188874 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not exactly < 1215188880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-INTERCAL isn't self-modifying < 1215188895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can turn bits of syntax on and off at will < 1215188915 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, all syntax is compiled whether it has a meaning or not < 1215188932 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it syntax-errors at runtime unless that syntax has been given a meaning (at runtime) before it's encountered < 1215189044 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys. < 1215189050 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Slereah_ < 1215189057 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I buy a book just because it has a section "Care of Your Pet Combinator"? < 1215189068 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not just for that < 1215189080 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, children are starving in Africa and everything. < 1215189081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if it has a section like that, it may have other things you want too < 1215189089 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: http://pastebin.ca/1062312 < 1215189094 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with ais < 1215189102 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gets a function from stdin, executes it. < 1215189109 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, a #esoteric first, at least one person agrees with me < 1215189118 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... maybe that's because I normally talk to tusho < 1215189122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. s/variable/var/ < 1215189132 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Fuck you. :P < 1215189144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1215189147 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I will not buy it. < 1215189165 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless... < 1215189172 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: can you elaborate < 1215189173 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get that < 1215189181 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abebooks has it for $79, but some website for 35 < 1215189192 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the google converter! < 1215189208 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: that much? < 1215189213 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely don't buy it, then < 1215189215 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it about, anyway? < 1215189218 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a science book. < 1215189222 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No science book is cheap. < 1215189231 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambda calculus and all. < 1215189258 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike religion, where you can find books for free, Science has value D: < 1215189273 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it'd be easier to make that loop just: < 1215189288 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar ,[>,] < 1215189316 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: Turn into a fundie. You only need one book and it has everything! < 1215189320 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's cheap! < 1215189337 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://macrochan.org/source/S/B/SBR5MBJZNWY4CSNASFFYCFGV4PZ4HUVX.jpeg < 1215189339 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCIENCE! < 1215189349 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I already have 30% of the bible. < 1215189365 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Most free bibles peddlers only give out the new testament) < 1215189420 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Carol Hindley (1986) has given some marvellous drawings of the outsides of several well known combinators in her hilarious note "Care of Your Pet Combinator". Here we find that they bear somewhat more resemblance to insects and reptiles than to conventional birds." < 1215189427 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How hilarious do you think this is? < 1215189436 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :44 euros of hilarious? < 1215189442 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: probably not < 1215189452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I advise you to find it in a library or bookshop instead < 1215189459 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you can look at it without having to pay for it < 1215189473 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want me to find an English book on lambda calculus here? < 1215189487 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it called? < 1215189494 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lambda-Calculus-Combinators-Introduction-Roger-Hindley/dp/toc/0521898854 < 1215189497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a library, there's always a chance it's here... < 1215189502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://macrochan.org/source/S/B/SBR5MBJZNWY4CSNASFFYCFGV4PZ4HUVX.jpeg <-- hilarious < 1215189552 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for here, I already have a hard time finding any book at all on lambda calculus < 1215189560 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much less some obscure English one. < 1215189623 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why does that review call the author Carol? < 1215189631 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"by J. Roger Hindley" < 1215189638 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :J. does not ring of Carol. < 1215189677 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beh, it doesn't have Lambda-Calculus and Combinators: An Introduction but it does have Introduction to combinators and (the lambda)-calculus by the same authors < 1215189684 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I'm puzzled as to whether it's the same book < 1215189693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, check ISBN? < 1215189709 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how to find it at the Amazon end < 1215189718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1215189724 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISBN-13: 9780521898850 < 1215189744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, got it < 1215189746 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a different ISBN < 1215189752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it starts with the same few digits < 1215189757 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, the library gives two different ISBNs < 1215189761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't match either < 1215189768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a different edition of the same book? < 1215189775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: likely < 1215189777 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an american version < 1215189781 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do ISBN change with versions? < 1215189784 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs some other country < 1215189788 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the ISBN of the same version < 1215189792 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*second < 1215189792 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: not sure, probably yes if the contents change < 1215189803 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the easy way for me to settle this is to log out and then go hunting around the shelves < 1215189810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye for a while < 1215189815 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"looking for a book in RL" < 1215189815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh? < 1215189818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1215189818 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kthxbai < 1215189927 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is it dangerous to use both bird combinators and insect combinators? < 1215189940 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear they might try to consume them. < 1215190242 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1215190266 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ce01-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215190291 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hulo ais523 < 1215190297 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: I found the book < 1215190298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't buy it < 1215190307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why not < 1215190312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pet combinator stuff is just one page, not particularly interesting, and out of character with the rest of the book < 1215190318 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just full of dry mathematical stuff < 1215190341 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you just, because of someone on irc, went and found a book and made a micro-review which you carried in your head back to irc < 1215190347 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are a hero among us all < 1215190364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I checked the Internet catalogue first to see if it was here < 1215190367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was < 1215190374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was about 20m away from where I was sitting < 1215190379 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I thought it was worth having a look < 1215190380 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'kay < 1215190441 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were there pix? :o < 1215190450 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: line drawings < 1215190455 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which were basically just letters < 1215190468 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with teeth < 1215190474 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LETTERS < 1215190476 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH TEETH < 1215190476 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1215190478 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a S with giant teeth? < 1215190484 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the S was drawn as a snake < 1215190490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was only one page of pics, in an appendix < 1215190499 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the pics weren't as good as it sounds over IRC < 1215190507 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1215190514 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad I can't find it online < 1215190517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't really worth the 300+ pages of typewritten text with no illustrations that come with it < 1215190527 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you could have stolen it and uploaded it then put it back < 1215190529 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215190535 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, lambda calculus is always interesting < 1215190538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no, where would I find a scanner? < 1215190545 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's free ressources for that < 1215190555 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, I didn't need to steal it < 1215190560 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: pastebin.ca is mind-bendingly slow for me < 1215190561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, as I said, in a library < 1215190564 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh < 1215190566 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good point < 1215190569 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore I could take it out legally < 1215190571 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, um, you could mail it to me < 1215190576 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But scanning it would be STEALING ITS COPYRIGHT D: < 1215190579 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take it out -> mail to me -> I scan -> mail it back -> back in library < 1215190580 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWESOME < 1215190613 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could reproduce the entire page using MS Paint < 1215190621 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pixel by pixel < 1215190631 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1215190632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: I don't even have that here without changing computer, I'd have to try to do it in the GIMP < 1215190641 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1215190650 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in KolourPaint, I suppose, which I downloaded specifically for doing the sort of thing that Paint is actually useful for < 1215190652 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You Linux people. < 1215190665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, kthat ksounds knice! < 1215190675 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: KDE naming, you have to love it < 1215190683 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: lol, kde starts every name with a k < 1215190686 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because it is < 1215190697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, kyes kI kdo kas kI'm ka KKDE kuser < 1215190698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1215190700 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite, the RSS reader is kalled Akregator < 1215190705 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome names an awful lot of things starting with 'G' < 1215190707 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KKKDE D: < 1215190708 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that kalled was a typo but I decided to leave it like that < 1215190709 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though they're actually removing that < 1215190720 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hah < 1215190731 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to thinko like that when thinking about KDE < 1215190745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kit kis? < 1215190762 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kit? The Knight Rider car? < 1215190772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, the what? < 1215190776 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: alright, finally loaded < 1215190784 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that looks quite interesting < 1215190800 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can definitely see how that would be useful- loading kernel modules, for example? < 1215190811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, link? < 1215190826 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Knight Rider? < 1215190832 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, with David Hasslehoff? < 1215190832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, yes what is that? < 1215190837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, who is that? < 1215190841 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1215190842 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1215187150.html < 1215190856 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: he's a filthy swede < 1215190857 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what hut do you live? D: < 1215190858 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ I re-pastebinned it because the original is slow as fuck < 1215190858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore knows nothing < 1215190863 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My logic is impeccable, shut up) < 1215190865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, I haven't watched TV except for news for the past 2 years < 1215190873 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two years? < 1215190874 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1215190877 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knight Rider isn't recent at all, AnMaster < 1215190882 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, even in France it aired! < 1215190883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, and I haven't been at a cinema for several years < 1215190899 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Knight Rider is an American television series that ran from September 26, 1982, to August 8, 1986." < 1215190899 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't close the scope for foo, though < 1215190902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, I got no clue, anyway remember that I'm 18, so it may be too old < 1215190918 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably want a ; in there somewhere for good coding practice < 1215190922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, oh that, saw it before, loaded very quickly < 1215190930 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd < 1215190930 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it was about a talking car, and a special agent, solving crimes. < 1215190931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, don't get it < 1215190935 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I can remember. < 1215190944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, odd < 1215190948 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Slereah_, I got no clue, anyway remember that I'm 18, so it may be too old < 1215190955 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm 12 and I know about knight rider < 1215190956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, ? < 1215190956 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez < 1215190961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you aren't 12 < 1215190962 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible excuse < 1215190962 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1215190964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe that < 1215190971 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: oh, did you miss that? < 1215190972 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1215190983 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send nude pictures of yourself to prove it. < 1215190992 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :While wearing a cockring, if available. < 1215190998 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: A++ AWESOME IDEA < 1215191000 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, guess: 20-30 years old < 1215191005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you that is < 1215191007 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like he uses foo as a temporary variable, and as long as he's reading things into input he copies foo into bar... < 1215191013 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: thanks I guess < 1215191015 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I'm not entirely sure this will work as given < 1215191022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you are older? < 1215191025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 is upper limit < 1215191042 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 12 < 1215191049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I don't believe that I said < 1215191058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird is older than 12 < 1215191067 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, everyone here totally says they're like 10 years younger than they really are right < 1215191076 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, apart from Slereah_ and oklopol < 1215191081 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they'd probably do that < 1215191086 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the reverse of 12. < 1215191092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well I wasn't lying about being 18... < 1215191101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 21 I guess is reasonable < 1215191105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 22 < 1215191110 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, WIkipedia says I'm 21 < 1215191117 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone knows it's right, right? < 1215191133 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1215191143 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my age, yes < 1215191148 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it is with a lot of other things < 1215191150 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What of the rest? < 1215191151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it does make mistakes occasionally < 1215191160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: I don't know, I haven't read that article recently < 1215191165 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it true that you molested six children in the early 90's? < 1215191169 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at the age, and then closed it without reading the rest < 1215191176 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I know it hasn't been edited recently < 1215191178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so it doesn't say that < 1215191188 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds that < 1215191192 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :joking, before ais523 says anything < 1215191205 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, what I'm REALLY adding is a link to your wikipedia user page < 1215191208 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1215191211 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no, that could get you banned < 1215191217 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alex Smith grew up in Birmingham, attending King Edward VI Five Ways, and was an alternate for the UK International Mathematical Olympiad team. His parents are both teachers at University of Birmingham." < 1215191220 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the first will merely get you blocked < 1215191222 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i could like slap a joke in your face until you died < 1215191227 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you wouldn't notice < 1215191237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: and I could deliberately miss the joke because i think it's funnier that way < 1215191240 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you still wouldn't notice < 1215191247 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and I could deliberately respond to that seriously < 1215191251 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's funnier that way < 1215191254 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1215191255 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'd respond probably joking again < 1215191258 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I would do the same < 1215191263 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have finally closed off the loop < 1215191279 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: now make it into an esolang! < 1215191297 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1215191303 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: LOS < 1215191306 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Levels of Sarcasm/Jokes < 1215191315 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a page where the theme song of Knight Rider was beat boxed < 1215191319 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you write a program by building up levels of sarcasm or jokes in intricite layers < 1215191323 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program terminates when it goes back to 0 < 1215191324 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know the link? < 1215191355 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what level of irony would be Knight Rider in that language? < 1215191369 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: 7.3/x^(y/pi+e) < 1215191400 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knight Rider aired in Sweden, sez Wikpedia < 1215191401 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweden Nattens riddare < 1215191401 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Knight of the Night) Subtitled The show has three names, "Nattens riddare", "Riddaren i natten" and "Knightrider". < 1215191423 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish is such a silly language < 1215191426 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes everything sound ridiculous < 1215191498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, why do you think so? < 1215191498 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1215187799.html < 1215191508 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: RIDDAREN I NATTEN < 1215191513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, yes and? < 1215191535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, try to pronouce it in Swedish for gods sake < 1215191561 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swedish doesn't exist. < 1215191569 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Swedes are just making stuff up. < 1215191585 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they actually use their skin patterns to communicate. < 1215191605 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Swedes have a bright skin pattern that can be consciously modified3 < 1215191615 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite beautiful, really. < 1215191741 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c0F9CBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1215191862 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1215192126 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Thanks for the commenting. < 1215192134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't exactly thinking it through all that well. . . < 1215192138 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1215192163 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps me figure out other people's code < 1215192184 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDEA! < 1215192202 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a way to allow pointer manipulation to a fair degree without making the language more complicated! < 1215192216 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? < 1215192243 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it so you can do something like "varname?" to store the address representing the pointer to a cell, rather than it's dereferenced value < 1215192265 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus creating a third "literal type" accepted by ? < 1215192275 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is it's ambiguous syntactically < 1215192300 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with this facility, it'd be pretty trivial to create a function called "dereference"... gimme a sec < 1215192352 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thereby get the 'pass by value' feature that I proposed. . . < 1215192354 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: why not provide a function called dereference[] < 1215192358 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just have it primitive :P < 1215192369 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1215192374 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you are completely missing the point, congrats < 1215192390 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: that's nice of you < 1215192391 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind explaining? < 1215192399 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of, you know, just blankly asserting that < 1215192400 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: We have no primitive functions. < 1215192409 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: why not? It'd make a lot of things simpler. < 1215192410 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like C. ;) < 1215192413 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Than just piling on syntax... < 1215192422 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I didn't say it wouldn't be useful, I just said we needed a way of doing it that didn't make the language nasty < 1215192422 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's meant as a systems programming language. < 1215192450 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can't assume that there is *anything* supporting the code at all. < 1215192456 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Doesn't have to be. < 1215192460 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make dereference[x] compile specially. < 1215192507 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The road to hell is paved with special cases. < 1215192520 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, like extra syntax < 1215192521 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1215192577 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Let's make the semantics funkier so the syntax is more sparse!" < 1215192585 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1215188885.html <- how about this? < 1215192620 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't actually need ? and is unambiguous < 1215192646 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the limitation is that you can only get a pointer's address when you create a new variable, but this doesn't actually restrict what you can do < 1215192699 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1215192705 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still thinking here... < 1215193066 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ I'm an idiot < 1215193074 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are already indirection capabilities < 1215193143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always fun to realize your language is cleverer than you < 1215193151 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, give me a moment < 1215193271 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you say to this? http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1215189574.html < 1215193333 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little nastier than some of the previous code examples, visually, but you can completely hide this shit in functions like I just did < 1215193740 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a unicode char for - with a dot over it I wonder? < 1215193757 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: you could do it with combining chars < 1215193760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you want one, though < 1215193761 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the symbol used for positive integer substraction apparently < 1215193780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :positive integer subtraction? < 1215193805 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, x-.y = x-y if x>y, and x-.y = 0 else < 1215193820 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only trick with the current schema is that everything is effectively already a pointer. By allowing variable initialization as a pointer's address, you can "back off" a step and gain access to the address, to manipulate. Then, naturally, you have to doubly dereference to get the final pointed value, so an extra #/; does the trick < 1215193835 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope I'm not just incoherently babbling < 1215193852 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since recursive functions only use positive integer, it's used in many proofs. < 1215193866 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus you need it to define equality recursively < 1215194240 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1215194326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, where can I get the implementation for your language? < 1215194342 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: pikhq is working on the first implementation < 1215194353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, open development I assume < 1215194356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so path to repo? < 1215194367 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not aware of one yet < 1215194372 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: RodgerTheGreat doesn't believe in version control systems, dunno about pikhq < 1215194380 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you ought to be able to get one in a few days < 1215194385 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cvs, svn, bzr, mercurial, darcs (and even git if I have to) < 1215194404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, what will it compile to? < 1215194407 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C or asm? < 1215194417 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :our main target is x86 asm < 1215194433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, llvm would be nice < 1215194460 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the project becomes popular, I'm sure we'll support more architectures/intermediary forms < 1215194500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, do you support custom calling conventions? < 1215194510 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I knew for a while that one of the cocreators of INTERCAL now works for Microsoft, but I just found out that the other now works for Google < 1215194514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this puts a whole new spin on things < 1215194525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hahah < 1215194527 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the main goal for now is to support C calling conventions < 1215194539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, there are several < 1215194551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, on x86 that is < 1215194559 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1215194575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on x86_64 there is one basically < 1215194600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, anyway win32 api make the callee clean up the stack in non-varargs function < 1215194611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while on *nix it is always the caller that does it < 1215194619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1215194652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, cdecl vs. stdcall < 1215194660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stdcall is the one windows use < 1215194668 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you'd have to ask pikhq about that < 1215194681 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he isn't here < 1215194687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so relay it to him < 1215194689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1215194700 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215194753 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, source: http://www.techworld.com.au/article/251892/-z_programming_languages_intercal?pp=1&fp=2&fpid=-1 < 1215194761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is dated today < 1215194831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ”the most widely-used programming languages" < 1215194833 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone's on drugs < 1215194836 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no < 1215194838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read more carefully < 1215194846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did a lot of widely-used languages < 1215194853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then decided it would be fun to do INTERCAL too < 1215194898 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our compiler converted the INTERCAL program to SNOBOL (actually SPITBOL, which is a compilable version of SNOBOL) and represented INTERCAL datatypes using character strings in which all the characters were "0"s and "1"s. < 1215194902 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a true hero among men < 1215194912 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that's actually a sane representation of data in INTERCAL < 1215194916 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not the one that C-INTERCAL uses < 1215194921 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{Do you use either C-INTERCAL or CLC-INTERCAL currently? } < 1215194927 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are so many bit-wise operations < 1215194937 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think that's the fanciest-deisgned page that mentions C-INTERCAL < 1215194938 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1215194947 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad they noticed CLC-INTERCAL too < 1215194953 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone's keeping up with the world of INTERCAL < 1215194960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most INTERCAL websites are stuck in the past < 1215195007 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: c-intercal.eso-std.org, if it ever comes to pass, should utilize ajax and have web 2.0 stylings < 1215195011 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for the sheer cognitive dissonance < 1215195018 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should also be itself written in INTERCAL < 1215195028 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's a bit harder. < 1215195035 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll write it in something, you translate it. :P < 1215195040 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, OK < 1215195043 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably in CLC-INTERCAL < 1215195053 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly because it's the wrong one < 1215195062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and partly because it's slightly better at outputting constant strings < 1215195080 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and to run it, i'll translate clc-intercal to ruby < 1215195086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it can run on Passenger < 1215195094 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I may just make it shell out to perl; dunno) < 1215195095 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it compiles into Perl, so you may have problems doing that < 1215195099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm reading that link now < 1215195100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1215195101 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then I'll just interface with perl < 1215195107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"adding a style guide for INTERCAL to go alongside Google's guides for C++, Java and other languages" XD < 1215195109 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrap it in a Rack interface < 1215195113 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and voila < 1215195121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Ruby app running CLC-INTERCAL running the C-INTERCAL site < 1215195225 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215195234 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c0F9CBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1215195261 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's probably a bad thing that I have a shell-script which reads strings from a file, each of which has ID numbers, and outputs CLC-INTERCAL code designed to output each of those strings < 1215195284 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1215195296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, not a shell-script < 1215195298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote it in sed < 1215195308 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but convickt does most of the work < 1215195328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ""the division routine of the standard INTERCAL library has a really cool hack that I hadn't seen before"" <-- what is that hack I wonder? < 1215195332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the link you pasted < 1215195345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's how to do a greater-than in INTERCAL < 1215195358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, describe it? < 1215195363 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you look for the most significant bit that differs between the two numbers < 1215195369 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the greater number will have a 1 in that bit < 1215195380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes sounds sane, and? < 1215195388 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it isn't really sane < 1215195394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that is what a computer does internally? < 1215195395 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the easiest way to do greater-than in INTERCAL < 1215195401 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215195407 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, computers subtract and see if the answer is negative < 1215195414 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't require doing bit-searches < 1215195418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1215195445 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/negative/overflows/ if you're using unsigned numbers < 1215196096 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-66-31-43-229.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215196403 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215196420 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ce01-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215196429 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb, pikhq < 1215196450 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1215196468 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1215189574.html <- have a look at this and read the logs- I think I have a solution to the pointer issue < 1215196690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215196707 0 :ais523!n=ais523@ce01-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215197138 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"(1) DO COME FROM ".2~.2"~#1 WHILE :1 <- "'?.1$.2'~'"':1/.1$.2'~#0"$#65535'"$"'"'&.1$.2'~'#0$#65535'"$#0'~#32767$#1"" < 1215197537 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man. < 1215197547 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Inspector Gadget theme is way better in French < 1215197557 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually has lyrics. < 1215197644 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: dunanunanun INSPECTOR GADGET < 1215198118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, what is that? < 1215198124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather < 1215198125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is that < 1215198235 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1215198242 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't know Inspector Gadget either? < 1215198257 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you do with your childhood, being a productive member of society? < 1215198259 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GO GO GADGET SURPRISE < 1215198276 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do they show you for cartoons in Sweden? < 1215198293 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Little blue communists! < 1215198307 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtube.com/watch?v=IOOPsMNiiIM < 1215198313 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, there even was a movie of it! < 1215198333 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The plot is that it's a dude with a robotic body fighting crime. < 1215198343 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even given the subject that movie was pretty terrible :P < 1215198351 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he's retarded, so it's actually his niece and the dog of the niece doing the actual crime fighting. < 1215198389 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i loved inspector gadget so much < 1215198408 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that intro is crazy though < 1215198410 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy sounds mentally ill < 1215198427 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least there's lyrics :o < 1215198434 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs lyrics < 1215198441 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me. < 1215198458 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to sing it without looking too retarded. < 1215198463 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it totally blew my mind at the edit of the credits sequence when it said '1984' < 1215198464 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was like < 1215198469 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't just sing "INSPECTOR GADGET WOO HOO3 < 1215198470 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY SHIT THERE WERE PEOPLE IN 1984?????????????? < 1215198481 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TELEVISIONS??????? < 1215198487 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE WORLD WAS IN _COLOUR_????????? < 1215198490 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost died < 1215198509 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-152-134-23.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215198571 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster. < 1215198574 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer us. < 1215198584 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell did you watch during your childhood. < 1215198586 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what did you do < 1215198592 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he is like actually 3 < 1215198595 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's some kind of supercoder < 1215198596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, watch? I didn't have TV < 1215198610 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1215198612 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he's like 104 < 1215198617 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that would explain it. < 1215198617 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would work too < 1215198633 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, not knowing Inspector Gadget or Knight Rider? < 1215198643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, nah just high hills and around where I lived so no TV was possible < 1215198644 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That takes some hermit powers. < 1215198655 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: i'm a hermit and I know about them < 1215198660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, nor mobile phone < 1215198676 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in a town these days though < 1215198693 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster : Go on the pirate bay < 1215198702 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And download every Inspector Gadget cartoons. < 1215198706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, no time, reading some interesting coding standard documents atm < 1215198707 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: SOUND ADVICE. < 1215198708 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Knight Rider. < 1215198710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy < 1215198723 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm sure they're like 100x more fun than inspector gadget < 1215198726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, also that would be illegal < 1215198731 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're thrilling and exciting! < 1215198734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what? US military C++ specs < 1215198738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite interesting to read < 1215198740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :public ons < 1215198742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ones* < 1215198744 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will you do if a guy asks you about Inspector Gadget at gunpoint, AnMaster? < 1215198752 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A guy LIKE ME < 1215198759 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah anyone got a gun to lend me? < 1215198761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, Use material arts < 1215198767 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows Aikido < 1215198768 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MATERIAL ARTS < 1215198771 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :material arts < 1215198772 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahaha < 1215198780 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster is a materialist < 1215198783 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: FYI, martial arts aren't very useful when you've just been shot < 1215198789 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He uses some form of Marxist martial art. < 1215198791 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're in a kung-fu movie. < 1215198792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, agree < 1215198793 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Marxial art. < 1215198795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1215198797 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE MORE YOU KNOW! < 1215198842 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact : One of the top dude for "Hand to hand combat killing in a situation of actual war" didn't use martial arts at all. < 1215198849 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just strangled the dudes. < 1215198892 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: I should try that with ais523 < 1215198909 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you could also use a gun < 1215198913 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even better < 1215198922 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah more effective I guess < 1215198933 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think he knows intricate details of each episode of inspector gadget? < 1215198946 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'd better unless he's like some kind of extreme masochist who loves being shot < 1215198982 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, he seems like a smart lad, solving incredible problems of the 2,3 machine and all < 1215198992 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's probably wise on the whole Inspector Gadget thing. < 1215198996 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes true < 1215199286 0 :cctoide!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it's #friendsofcctoide < 1215199348 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-54-75.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1215199401 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1215199467 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cctoide: what < 1215200101 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cctoide: what < 1215200219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i = v[i++]; < 1215200220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i = ++i + 1; < 1215200220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p->mem_func(*p++); < 1215200221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1215200238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 undefined < 1215200254 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, evil! < 1215200264 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE CREATED A MONSTER < 1215200274 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it is coming to defeat us all < 1215200276 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200277 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200279 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :......p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200283 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's walking oh god) < 1215200284 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :........p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200285 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..........p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200286 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1215200293 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slays it < 1215200293 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) <( ROAR ) < 1215200298 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IT'S ROARING < 1215200304 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) <( ROAR )|X < 1215200309 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's your slaying being deflected) < 1215200312 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) <( ROAR ).............|X < 1215200313 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) <( ROAR )......................|X < 1215200316 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) <( ROAR ) < 1215200320 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..............p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200321 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :................p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets out his trusty Snickersnee  < 1215200322 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..................p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200324 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....................p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200325 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :......................p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200326 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :........................p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200328 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..........................p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200329 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............................p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) < 1215200335 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............................p->mem_func(*p++, i = v[++i] + 1) <( ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAR MOTHERFUCKER) < 1215200381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I meant vorpal blade < 1215200385 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION confused poems < 1215200391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!" < 1215200394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the correct quote < 1215200396 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats AnMaster  < 1215200399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I messed that up < 1215200400 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OM NOM NOM NOM NOOM < 1215200406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cause indigestion < 1215200430 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION EATS INDIGESTION FOR BREAKFAST < 1215200435 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho : WTF ARE YOU DOING < 1215200443 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: WTF ARE YOU DOING MAN < 1215200448 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooo < 1215200454 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't know the thing! < 1215200459 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes like this : < 1215200465 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 : OM NOM NOM < 1215200472 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 : WTF R U DOING < 1215200485 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 : EATIN SUM [item being eaten] < 1215200493 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: i liek kittens < 1215200508 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*turtles < 1215200517 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1215200518 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kittens < 1215200519 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you < 1215200541 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-54-75.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1215200567 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fucks self < 1215200642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what?! I didn't know that < 1215200652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : kittens fuck you <-- they do? < 1215200659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'm glad I don't have a cat < 1215200667 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: oh yes, yes they do < 1215200669 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the time < 1215200923 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster : Man, in what kind of hut do you live in Sweden? < 1215200937 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you never seen the rampant cat raping problem? < 1215201049 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215201205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, hah < 1215201263 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would know if you watched Inspector Gadgety < 1215201274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, what about turtles then? < 1215201276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they too? < 1215201327 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I just got an idea: C with Objects < 1215201331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be less messy than C++ < 1215201339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and easier to set up than D < 1215201341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215201351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes I know C++ was called C with objects once) < 1215201549 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much smarter idea: help people make Tango work on x86-64 < 1215201560 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no, that'd involve TOUCHING D < 1215201566 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can AnMaster do that, with how much it is awful! < 1215201596 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, writing your own language from scratch is a much better idea... at least you won't get CONTAMINATED < 1215201622 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it'll be able to write kernels, too < 1215201628 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's important when writing a befunge interpreter < 1215201676 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1215201683 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I note that one can write kernels in D, it's been done) < 1215201692 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: but it's NOT EASY < 1215201694 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be EASY < 1215201700 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how will we develop kernels otherwise? < 1215201706 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a kernel-hating COMMUNIST? < 1215201716 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noes! I'm caught! < 1215201720 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs < 1215201734 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I bet you don't even make sure your C code runs faster than POSIX 1.0 interface test module! < 1215201744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I think D will be nice < 1215201748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once it works properly < 1215201757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however phobos already does that iirc? < 1215201771 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once it WORKS PROPERLY < 1215201772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, IDEA: BEFUNGE KERNEL! < 1215201775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is UNFIXABLY BROKEN < 1215201781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEFUNGE KERNEL YAY! < 1215201781 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it doesn't work PERFECTLY on x86-64 < 1215201784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would rock < 1215201795 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that the main reason phobos works in cases where tango doesn't is that phobos uses the C stdlib to implement much of its functionality < 1215201801 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas tango uses kernel calls directly < 1215201813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, eww < 1215201820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, kernel may change < 1215201827 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215201828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so tango will be hard to port to freebsd and so on < 1215201829 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what I meant < 1215201830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1215201831 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX < 1215201832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice... < 1215201836 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and WinAPI < 1215201847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm? doesn't both use libc routines? < 1215201857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just said tango does syscalls itself < 1215201874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and no I don't know what you meant < 1215201891 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I meant is open(2) instead of open(3) < 1215201894 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1215201895 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fopen(3) < 1215201901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1215202063 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and on Windows, that'd be CreateFileW) < 1215202116 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if it's reasonable to require people posting on his blog to have an openid < 1215202118 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(comments that is) < 1215202278 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Tango only has a single line of code that doesn't build on x86_64 properly. < 1215202292 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have fixed it if I knew WTF was going on in said line. < 1215202300 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pasted 4 open Tango tickets regarding x86_64 yesterday < 1215202304 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What is the line? < 1215202305 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know which ones are critical, though. < 1215202320 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't remember. < 1215202321 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And does anyone have an opinion on what I said? :P < 1215202334 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere in the regexp functions. < 1215202337 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I comment on blogs only very rarely < 1215202340 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't have an openid < 1215202349 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my opinion is probably fairly worthless. < 1215202359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It only takes a second to get one: https://www.myopenid.com/ < 1215202367 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why get one when I don't need one < 1215202380 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. But, like you said, you're unlikely to comment on my blog. :P < 1215202615 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215202788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea for crazy versioning system for software: < 1215202842 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone re: the openid thing? < 1215202848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of alpha, beta, and so on, use omega, and backwards < 1215202883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would be: omega, psi, chi, phi, ... < 1215203047 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1215203243 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215203248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what is openid? < 1215203248 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1215203255 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it even go up to gamma? < 1215203257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah, I don't think I need your opinion < 1215203258 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1215203260 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215203264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, huh? < 1215203267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, what does? < 1215203279 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I thought it was alpha->beta->finished < 1215203321 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, tusho. < 1215203330 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, gamma would be release candidate? < 1215203330 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's talk of old cartoons to confuse AnMaster. < 1215203338 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. < 1215203339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1215204150 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anywooon? < 1215204427 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOOOOOOOOOO < 1215204432 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone? < 1215204435 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inspector Gadget! < 1215204437 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOO HOO < 1215204472 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone what? < 1215204487 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANSAH MY KWESTON < 1215204489 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually wait. < 1215204494 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Do you have an OpenID? < 1215204796 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Oi. < 1215205110 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Ping < 1215205293 0 :cctoide!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hommelette < 1215205371 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cctoide: do you have an openid < 1215205407 0 :cctoide!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably, since I registered for an LJ account once < 1215205413 0 :cctoide!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dinnertime < 1215206261 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host6-89-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1215206282 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: Some free software does alpha -> beta -> release candidate -> release. < 1215207013 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is no gamma->delta->... < 1215207751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, so do I < 1215207752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1215207762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "pre-release" < 1215207768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what project < 1215209862 0 :Sargun!n=Sargun@atarack/staff/sargun JOIN :#esoteric < 1215209948 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215210008 0 :djgera!n=djgera@host77.190-31-41.telecom.net.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1215210491 0 :djgera!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1215210772 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215212641 0 :ihope!n=chatzill@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215212902 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ping < 1215212990 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1215213360 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215213846 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215213962 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.15/2008062306]" < 1215214451 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1215214537 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: do you have an openid < 1215214566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o no. < 1215214576 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you can have it without knowing it. < 1215214593 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: if you read the most awesome post about oko code on my blog and you wanted to leave a comment about how much you love me < 1215214605 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you still do it if you had to take about 2 seconds to get an openid at https://www.myopenid.com/ < 1215214609 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you could post it < 1215214660 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hmmmmmmmmmm? < 1215214674 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyaaaaaaa < 1215214676 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee < 1215214684 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm really just popping by < 1215214697 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is still super important <______________________________________________< < 1215214775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: WELL??????????????????????????!111111111111 ;_________; < 1215214811 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215214816 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i registered < 1215214822 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh good. so you would take the time < 1215214824 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1215214825 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't get the confirmation thingie yet. < 1215214837 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: o, btw. this is what you can now put into any openid enabled site < 1215214840 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol.myopenid.com < 1215214843 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use it without signing up < 1215214844 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1215214865 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which basically amounts to putting oklopol.myopenid.com in the OpenID field on my blog, really. :P < 1215214914 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1215214926 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made it send the confirmation to oklopol@gmain.com :) < 1215214934 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GMAIN < 1215214936 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215214938 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDD < 1215214964 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i typoed gmail->gmain already once today < 1215214968 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: when you get it working make sure you set your name thing to 'oklopol' < 1215214974 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise on my blahhg it'll show as oklopol.myopenid.com < 1215214979 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sux more than 'oklopol' < 1215215007 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know how to get it working now < 1215215024 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you could resign up as oklofok < 1215215045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm indeed < 1215215052 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's lame < 1215215055 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely there's something you can do < 1215215057 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm going to sleep now, so another day. < 1215215059 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1215215069 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they will hopefully drop me after a while < 1215215083 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt it