< 1218153604 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is. < 1218153612 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: hm, no < 1218153619 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1218153622 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must not be, actually. < 1218153623 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an axiom is that it's inconsistent < 1218153625 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it must be < 1218153626 0 :otpbot!n=otpbot@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218153626 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :*sex < 1218153630 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218153632 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice debut < 1218153649 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: LOGS. < 1218153649 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: an axiom isn't that "it" is inconsistent; an axiom is that ZFC is inconsistent. < 1218153658 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: wut < 1218153662 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need logs < 1218153668 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1218153668 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cant not link to the logs < 1218153672 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218153673 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that < 1218153675 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus fucking christ < 1218153677 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fixing that < 1218153679 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sex is not a link to the logs < 1218153680 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop being so anal < 1218153680 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218153688 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :anal*sex < 1218153688 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though ZFC being inconsistent implies that ZFC + "ZFC is inconsistent" is inconsistent, too. < 1218153691 0 :otpbot!n=otpbot@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218153691 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Hmm, indeed. < 1218153697 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: test < 1218153700 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1218153701 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218153703 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: well metaphysically speaking, and considering rule 34... < 1218153715 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1218153730 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is linked to sex < 1218153761 0 :otpbot!n=otpbot@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218153761 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | > < 1218153764 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot test < 1218153769 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1218153771 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :verily, that is b0rken < 1218153773 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218153775 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not a metaphorical use of the word link, its just a different word. < 1218153779 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you suck, oerjan. < 1218153782 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, ZFC + "this theory is inconsistent" is inconsistent, isn't it? Proving that the existence of a proof of a statement implies that statement would prove that. < 1218153809 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: you are probably not ready to understand this yet < 1218153818 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't that mean that ZFC being consistent implies that ZFC + "ZFC is consistent" is consistent? < 1218153819 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erg < 1218153826 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaphysically, god damnit < 1218153830 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain, READ. < 1218153838 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho still. < 1218153839 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1218153851 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did I come to that conclusion, I wonder... < 1218153865 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have also forgotten rule 57 of #esoteric: < 1218153874 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do not talk about #esoteric? < 1218153876 0 :otpbot!n=otpbot@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218153877 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is joking 97% of the time < 1218153881 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot < 1218153886 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot you're an asshole < 1218153888 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't listen to me. < 1218153889 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asshole. < 1218153889 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jokes are supposed to be funny < 1218153898 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOURS ARE NOT < 1218153904 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually shut the hell up psygnisfive < 1218153909 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1218153910 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find them funny, I believe ihope/dogface does < 1218153913 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 does < 1218153917 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically everyone does. < 1218153917 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: once a day? < 1218153927 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: once a minute atm for testing < 1218153927 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218153937 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218153940 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like everyone found rodger's puzzle easy? < 1218153947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear i don't think i've had anyone fighting over me before < 1218153952 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i think it would make the most sense to base the interval on chat lines < 1218153963 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it could just be my usual lousy memory < 1218153964 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: it's meant to give us something to talk about < 1218153965 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. End result: ZFC is so good that it's inconsistent. < 1218153969 0 :otpbot!n=otpbot@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218153969 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | what they express is generally a combination of what they're surrounded by < 1218153971 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise when the channel is quiet, the bot would flood the logs < 1218153980 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: not -that- much of a problem < 1218153983 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's only once every 6 hours, say < 1218153988 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot tset < 1218153988 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: oklokok: waitwait we're talking about the halting problem here < 1218153988 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1218153993 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot < 1218153994 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: one thing I tried to do a long time ago, and failed at, was to come up with bf code blocks to replace c commands.. for example: while(), etc. The basic ones are relatively simple, but it gets more complicated when break and continue are added < 1218154004 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just regurgitates log lines :D < 1218154005 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154005 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: function name(params) return < 1218154007 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1218154014 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218154025 0 :otpbot!n=otpbot@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218154025 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | like short int = short < 1218154027 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154028 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :. . . < 1218154030 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1218154030 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1218154035 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218154039 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218154042 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy who first said that: break and continue are easy to implement with continuations. < 1218154049 0 :otpbot!n=otpbot@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218154049 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | You suck GregorR! < 1218154051 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218154053 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1218154054 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHHAHA < 1218154061 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, it's better than a markov chain < 1218154066 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :context removal is awesome < 1218154071 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154071 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | they would need to switch every befung instruction < 1218154075 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154075 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | anybody here? < 1218154077 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154077 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | 9 oklopol: bf_txtgen < 1218154081 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot you are awesome. < 1218154084 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot you are awesome. < 1218154085 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ehird: I will gladly hand you the reigns if you want to continue work on JSMMIX :P < 1218154086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn < 1218154090 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1218154090 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho < 1218154092 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154092 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | SADOL can express strings like this "5idiot < 1218154096 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're spamming now < 1218154098 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop this. < 1218154101 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | there's a pretty nifty little java implementation out there < 1218154103 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154103 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | ais523, same < 1218154104 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: should I stop this? < 1218154116 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never! < 1218154120 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right then < 1218154122 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154122 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | oklokok: compilers don't always do what i want them to do.... < 1218154131 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: What is the meaning of life? < 1218154131 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Aaaha! < 1218154134 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1218154141 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154142 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | no sequence, either < 1218154144 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1218154147 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: can Haskell be used to write a compiler? < 1218154148 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: mtve: it could be assumed that all programs will eventually exit, by loss of power, malfunction, etc < 1218154157 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS SENTIENT < 1218154161 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | personally, I might've gone with black-on-white < 1218154162 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1218154172 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll decrease that interval in a sec < 1218154175 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is great :D < 1218154176 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218154181 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: are you a human? < 1218154181 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i lost my whirl interpreter < 1218154185 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: who would win, God or Chuck Norris? < 1218154185 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I suspect Life32 is faster, though < 1218154186 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... lmao < 1218154187 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1218154197 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: are you otpbot? < 1218154198 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: hm < 1218154199 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we scared olsner < 1218154206 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: why are you unsure? < 1218154207 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: /compiler < 1218154212 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1218154213 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: ah you need a compiler to be sure? < 1218154214 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I don't simply care of ehird wants the name, he didn't announce it, nor release it, first < 1218154221 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | vp00-1g00*g00< < 1218154221 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: I don < 1218154222 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: And opened the hard drive < 1218154226 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t want your name! < 1218154229 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: what do you think of apples < 1218154230 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: ahh its de onlz < 1218154233 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1218154234 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XDDDDDDDDDDD < 1218154235 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: how easy is it to write a GCC backend? < 1218154236 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: oh ^^ < 1218154244 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ is an expression of happiness < 1218154246 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, it is easy < 1218154248 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's glad to find out. < 1218154256 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, cool. < 1218154258 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: is this hilarious? < 1218154258 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ais523: i'll condition on the modulo of a graham's number thingy < 1218154267 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot: are you insane? < 1218154267 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ... < 1218154268 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so there's a condition to its hilarity? < 1218154278 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suck on this, turing < 1218154281 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | ISWIM? < 1218154281 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154286 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sentience in like 10 lines of ruby < 1218154296 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154296 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | just to get to know the country < 1218154298 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, what's 1/(sqrt(2)-1) as rational linear combinations of square roots? < 1218154301 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: refactor < 1218154304 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: :D < 1218154307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1218154310 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make it optbot < 1218154310 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otpbot! < 1218154311 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | hm? < 1218154312 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :optbot < 1218154317 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1218154339 0 :otpbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218154345 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've wondered for a while whether 1/(sqrt(2)-1) even can be expressed as rational linear combinations of square roots. < 1218154356 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tusho < 1218154371 0 :optbot!n=optbot@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218154371 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Well, it seems you're thinking "oolooloo" would be happy, where in my system it wouldn't. < 1218154376 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1218154378 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahaha wtf < 1218154392 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/(sqrt(2)-1) = (sqrt(2)+1)/3 < 1218154400 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: do you have sentient genitals? < 1218154400 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: "something"? < 1218154403 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1218154408 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: not "something", "sentient genitals" < 1218154408 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: addOneColAndSucceed result = do addOneCol; return result < 1218154412 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: don't dodge the questino < 1218154413 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: to A? ah! that's my mistake then < 1218154420 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yes it's your mistake so answer me. < 1218154421 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ei voi ymmärtää < 1218154422 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | ehird, < 1218154424 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: fuck you < 1218154424 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Deewiant, I'm working on fingerprints atm, well mine will be virtually as fast when they are disabled, and even virtually as fast as long as no finger print is loaded, but it will be slower if they are loaded, then on same speed as CCBI I guess < 1218154425 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/(sqrt(2)-1) = (sqrt(2)+1)/1 < 1218154446 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: make it filter nicknames in the beginning of messages < 1218154446 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: ^ < 1218154447 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218154452 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: yeah, OK < 1218154464 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :([^ ]+)[,:]\s+ < 1218154465 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1218154478 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By 1, do you mean 5? < 1218154482 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | is that too much < 1218154483 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not sure how well that would work :) < 1218154486 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218154501 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to check if it's a nickname or not < 1218154508 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have noticed that. < 1218154509 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Deewiant, I'm working on " => "I'm working on" < 1218154517 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sadly, I'm an idiot" => "Sadly, I'm an idiot" < 1218154521 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beh < 1218154524 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of work < 1218154528 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1218154535 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: how would you do it? < 1218154538 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't think of a trivial way < 1218154541 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: no, 1. because (sqrt(2)-1)*(sqrt(2)+1) = 1 < 1218154541 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hand-doing sockets fort his < 1218154543 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look at the users currently in the channel, it'll work most of the time < 1218154550 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea but I have to parse stuff then < 1218154553 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, it is. < 1218154561 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: then just hardcode a list of users. < 1218154563 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I can perform evils. < 1218154584 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: it'd be huge < 1218154587 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleeeeeeh < 1218154623 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: okay, then just do what you did < 1218154633 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sadly, I'm an idiot" => "I'm an idiot" is not that bad < 1218154638 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: (a^2 - b^2) = (a+b)*(a-b) is generally useful for removing square roots from denominators < 1218154656 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this bot is named after you < 1218154664 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oerjan's Terrible Puns -> otpbot -> optbot < 1218154755 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1218154757 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite so. < 1218154827 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brace yourselves < 1218154828 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the french, the word order, i see < 1218154828 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is uploading to the server < 1218155133 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on feb 07 < 1218155229 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum... i know the limitations of my "language", how I can overstep them ? < 1218155247 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: unicorns < 1218155275 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicorns ? < 1218155281 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yse < 1218155283 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of them < 1218155286 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, quasiconformal rhyncocephalians < 1218155286 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :horses with vaginas on their heads < 1218155293 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, i meant horns < 1218155302 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaginas, horns ... what's the difference < 1218155307 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1218155313 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: semantics. < 1218155315 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1218155317 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218155318 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pure nitpicking < 1218155340 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-66-31-43-229.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218155367 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq you are here to witness something special < 1218155371 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record: pvmove is *unstable as fuck* when shuffling blocks to and from one's hard drive. < 1218155372 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a day where topics are no longer boring < 1218155386 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: when it sets the topic should it say who said it and when in-channel? < 1218155396 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would kinda ruin the no-context thing but it might lead to looking up some interesting discussions < 1218155428 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1218155432 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it more without context < 1218155440 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe when it changes it, it'll say < 1218155448 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and as for the previous topic, "...", that was said by foo on bar) < 1218155454 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you have to wait 6 hours to see < 1218155461 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or have a command < 1218155469 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes perhaps < 1218155470 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :v2 ;) < 1218155473 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shows the quoted line in full, with a timestamp < 1218155492 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less flooding < 1218155518 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-82-181.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1218155544 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicorun :p < 1218155591 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1218155630 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... i didn't understand the thing between an esolang and a unicorn xD < 1218155656 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, it's not important, i'll imagine :p < 1218155670 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your imagination will serve you well < 1218155691 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope < 1218155705 0 :optbot!n=optbot@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1218155705 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | pictures! < 1218155719 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now with eso-std.org goodness! < 1218155725 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: is this totally freakin' radical or what < 1218155725 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: if you in fact take a gander at the demo I have online at the http://rodger.nonlogic.org/games/CRPG/ < 1218155734 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does so < 1218155745 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Way to go, Rodger. < 1218155754 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Do you like Rodger? < 1218155754 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz < 1218155758 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1218155760 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA < 1218155783 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: it thinks you are boring < 1218155802 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, ? :p < 1218155803 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: i'm sure we it's just my current dream :) < 1218155811 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218155819 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this kind of bot < 1218155837 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no < 1218155837 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that BF interpreter is a mess. < 1218155841 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who say some bullshits sometimes :p < 1218155846 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as good as a Markov chain bot, though. < 1218155850 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: o rly? < 1218155852 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ran a megahal over it < 1218155855 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it produced crap < 1218155857 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it more than markov < 1218155858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not funny at all < 1218155859 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, malbolge helloworld < 1218155859 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: he is here < 1218155862 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just strung together rubbish < 1218155867 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it segfaulted all the time. < 1218155869 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was slow/ < 1218155870 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: let's run away into the woods < 1218155870 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: you missed by the way. < 1218155876 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, but where ? < 1218155876 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: Nah < 1218155888 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't we have a Markov chain bot in here once upon a time? < 1218155894 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: with a spoon? < 1218155894 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah. < 1218155900 0 :SoapX!n=lypelpyp@d-65-175-254-105.cpe.metrocast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218155904 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what? < 1218155904 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: and return values are generally on the stack as well. < 1218155922 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I probably wrote it. Or oklopol. < 1218155929 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is, so far, the best. < 1218155941 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Marry me? < 1218155941 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: y -> x + y} < 1218155948 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: wtf dose that meen lol < 1218155949 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it seems to have utterly confused the type-checker < 1218155951 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....... < 1218155954 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1218155993 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what does the opt in your name mean < 1218155993 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: (actually i didn't do it just works now again) < 1218156001 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: right - i did it < 1218156001 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: hi calamari < 1218156005 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, does god exist ? :o < 1218156005 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: ((::**:*:*:*:*)((:)~*(*)*:o(h)~^^O):::**::***^!)::*::***^ohhhhhhhhhhhO( < 1218156007 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: I am not calamari, are you insane? < 1218156007 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: sigils? < 1218156012 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: sigils are pretty insane < 1218156012 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: READ THE SPECS CAREFULLY!!! < 1218156019 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Why? Are they decreed to not be insane? < 1218156019 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: emerge around 50 when waiting for y/n on emerge -avDuN world < 1218156020 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, optbot what language is ? < 1218156021 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: Um. . . Surely stack smashing is something that shouldn't be used? < 1218156027 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: erload < 1218156032 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what < 1218156032 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's what it is in perl < 1218156038 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ah you describe things in perl? < 1218156038 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ? :D < 1218156043 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: you seem confused < 1218156043 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not really < 1218156046 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: oh? < 1218156046 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: And it sends the input with a btw. < 1218156053 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: I haven't seen any 'btw's just yet < 1218156053 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: strings* < 1218156059 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: It sends it with a string? What? < 1218156059 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: >>> numbda 4 4 < 1218156064 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: A bot I am not < 1218156065 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: or just all of it < 1218156068 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ?? < 1218156068 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: My female *stepparent* however. < 1218156074 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i've had my fun < 1218156074 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218156076 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218156076 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | this is some groovy rock 'n' roll ;) < 1218156083 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally ;) < 1218156086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1218156112 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ;) < 1218156112 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: cool < 1218156114 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ;) < 1218156114 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: lament i actually have a use for it :) < 1218156121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1218156130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just told lament that he has a use for me. < 1218156130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1218156151 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be very afraid < 1218156164 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look at what it said about malbolge < 1218156178 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's sentient < 1218156178 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1218156435 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to write a Thue program that outputs x 'a's and y 'b's, where x/y = sqrt(2). < 1218156444 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: could YOU do that? < 1218156444 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: cya sgep < 1218156449 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgep < 1218156469 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Security-enhanced gep. < 1218156472 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?538 < 1218156489 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes he was just not-quite-pinged < 1218156507 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: um, sqrt(2) _is_ irrational you know < 1218156512 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: meet our new bot < 1218156515 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it changes the channel and talks < 1218156516 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it'll never stop running, then. < 1218156518 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: say hi to sgeo < 1218156518 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i sync my clock with a timeserver so it should be the correct time < 1218156528 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi optional bot optbot < 1218156529 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how do i kill processes? < 1218156540 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, killall on Linux < 1218156541 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hrm < 1218156545 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, helpful? < 1218156545 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Blogs are just the retarded cusins of forums. < 1218156560 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder who said that. < 1218156565 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just repeating lines it heard? < 1218156569 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no < 1218156575 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses hyper-powerful markov chains < 1218156578 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with stochastic timing < 1218156586 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by hyper-powerful I mean level 4 :P) < 1218156610 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To analyze {a -> ba, b -> a}... a is phi and b is 1 and at every step, it's multiplied by phi in a convergent manner. < 1218156666 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: yes, and that is connected to the equation x^2 + x + 1 = 0, so do something similar for x^2 = 2 ? < 1218156690 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's {a -> bb, b -> a}, a being sqrt(2) and b being 1. < 1218156699 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the ratio of as to bs doesn't converge. < 1218156713 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's call sqrt(2) 'Q', for obvious reasons. Then 1/(Q-1) = Q+1, which I'm sure was useful a moment ago. < 1218156731 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218156731 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | checking... < 1218156754 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, call phi 'P', for obvious reasons. Then 1/(P-1) = P. < 1218156813 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's also connected to that transition matrix < 1218156819 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which has to be related to P^2 = P + 1 somehow. < 1218156836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[1 1] [0 1]] < 1218156846 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's an obvious connection. < 1218156851 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ninjas? < 1218156851 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's a not optimizer < 1218156868 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subtract from 1. < 1218156893 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using fast Fourier transforms. < 1218156902 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1218157008 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 .n 0 1 [dup [+ .n] dip swap] loop < 1218157011 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss < 1218157046 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aluqondakali < 1218157088 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically that's a fibonacci program < 1218157193 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = x sqrt 2, b = x < 1218157228 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b b = x^2, a = x sqrt 2 does not work < 1218157228 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do one of these fast Fourier multiplications. < 1218157242 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION comes up with a couple 15-digit numbers < 1218157273 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: 15 digit number pls < 1218157273 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: How'd he do eh? < 1218157278 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: i said 15 digit number pls < 1218157278 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: maybe i should try to program something nice to my ti-86 < 1218157286 0 :SoapX!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Wikipe-tan < 1218157305 0 :Wikipe-tan!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Wikipetan < 1218157310 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1218157316 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b b = x + x < 1218157328 0 :Wikipetan!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SoapX < 1218157409 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y -> (y+2/y)/2 < 1218157435 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that converges < 1218157464 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot converges < 1218157464 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: nobody ever "taught" me recursion < 1218157465 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218157485 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not linear < 1218157501 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who sais 'nobody ever "taught" me recursion', I wonder. < 1218157534 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: i'll add that feature in v2, damnit < 1218157548 0 :SoapX!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1218157565 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a/b + 2b/a)/2 < 1218157574 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so what's the matrix? < 1218157616 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was watching an episode of stargate atlantis right < 1218157627 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the wraith take over the intergalactic bridge < 1218157634 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ignoring the stupidity of not having an iris on midway station < 1218157654 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rodney mckay kept calling the program that controlled the bridge a "Macro" < 1218157658 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := (aa + 2bb)/(2ab) < 1218157664 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which pissed me off because it makes no sense to call it a macro < 1218157686 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: not a matrix but you might be able to use it for a thue program < 1218157693 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1218157704 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface < 1218157709 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot be told what the matrix is < 1218157729 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION Fourier transforms psygnisfive < 1218157744 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what is the matrix? < 1218157744 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I thought I found a place where it wasn't so but I don't know < 1218157748 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1218157749 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION picks up a yellow polkadot pill from his purse < 1218157781 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should know well enough that fourier transforming something does nothing but make it easier to comprehend its frequency components. < 1218157821 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shush, I'm not finished Fourier transforming you. < 1218157831 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you will achieve nothing! < 1218157881 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION differentiates dogface! < 1218157908 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shush, I'm not finished Fourier transforming psygnisfive. < 1218157919 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1218157969 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: differentiate dogface < 1218157969 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: signed means right? < 1218157975 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and dogface = ihope. < 1218157977 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For those not in the know. < 1218157986 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you switching to that name like I did to tusho? :P < 1218158015 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho is cooler. < 1218158030 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ehird kid, he was a twat < 1218158033 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but tusho, i like tusho. < 1218158040 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218158046 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like I can't Fourier transform him after (note to self: use FFTs for error correction) all. Go ahead and differentiate me, then. < 1218158068 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218158068 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | what is it for? < 1218158073 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have far too much fun with this guy < 1218158101 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNH < 1218158104 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOGS < 1218158106 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD GOD YALL < 1218158108 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1218158109 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is logs there < 1218158113 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you blind < 1218158118 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, no. < 1218158120 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire this-is-a-test backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | what is it for? < 1218158124 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218158124 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | ?2+2 < 1218158126 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're unaware of the reference. < 1218158132 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: apparently < 1218158138 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1218158141 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218158141 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT ISSS IT GOOD FOR < 1218158141 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | O_O < 1218158142 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABSOLUTELY < 1218158143 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTHING < 1218158145 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAY IT AGAIN < 1218158147 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNNNGNGG < 1218158154 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck psygnisfive < 1218158155 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it bad if the reference that made me realize it's an HHGG ref. is the lemon-soaked paper napkins? http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?610 < 1218158172 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who else doesnt get the reference? < 1218158213 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some aircraft or shuttle thing was delayed for centuries I think because of a lack of lemon-soaked paper napkins < 1218158406 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is away: zZz < 1218158415 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night guys ;) < 1218158419 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna watch The Prisoner < 1218158613 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: those are important! < 1218158633 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, now that i know who dogface and tusho are, who is psygnisfive? < 1218158640 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur < 1218158646 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1218158661 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn short-term memory < 1218158698 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else owns Augur but never uses it < 1218158700 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cunt < 1218158705 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing that sticks is mathematics. and trivia. the only _two_ things that stick are mathematics and trivia. < 1218158706 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Augur < 1218158712 0 :Augur!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :psygnisfive < 1218158725 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot < 1218158725 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: k < 1218158727 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218158727 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | i thought Q was defined to not cheat :) < 1218158727 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and snazzy red coats < 1218158779 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: who is this Q of which you speak? < 1218158780 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Problem is < 1218158987 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218158988 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Knight Rider aired in sez Wikpedia < 1218159006 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218159006 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | 245 comment karma here.... < 1218159007 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oops < 1218159025 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218159025 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Not but the ones I like < 1218159056 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218159061 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best bot since we had Egobot go bye-bye. < 1218159073 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug fixed. < 1218159073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though Bucket of #xkcd fame is better. < 1218159076 0 :optbot!n=optbot@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1218159076 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | recall that a tape needs 2 stacks < 1218159089 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218159089 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | No < 1218159092 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xd < 1218159094 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What bug was that? < 1218159094 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*xD < 1218159097 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1218159097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1218159100 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'foo bar, baz' -> 'foo baz' < 1218159103 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot a ^ in a regexp < 1218159131 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: que? < 1218159131 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: there is a universe where they do < 1218159320 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218159320 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | didn't know there was a brainfork. < 1218159323 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that explains the aired in < 1218159336 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yep < 1218159362 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: did you know there was a brain? < 1218159363 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if x %= 4: print True else: False < 1218159399 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is %= in python? < 1218159413 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = x % y presumably < 1218159418 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't use statements in an expr < 1218159420 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yum, food ring. < 1218159421 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if conditions are exprs < 1218159435 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i found strange too < 1218159442 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218159442 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | they mention it but know nothing about it < 1218159451 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so true < 1218159459 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygokiphaliosis! < 1218159470 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _guarantee_ i know nothing about it < 1218159483 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe i guess it is something medical < 1218159548 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an alien disease, perhaps afflicting the splanch < 1218159563 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aphaeretics. < 1218159580 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh another thing i know nothing about < 1218159600 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but GIYF < 1218159644 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know nothing about aphaeretics? < 1218159669 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. and after googling i _still_ don't really know < 1218159684 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 hits is not really a lot < 1218159728 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and none of them really tempted me to click < 1218159731 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: I am going now < 1218159731 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: latin is an excellent example, and it's happening slowly with spanish and english < 1218159733 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Prestissimo castoridae voiceprint organismic by the euphrosyne? For you have neither aphaeretics nor iguanodontidaes whom you diethylstilbesterol shaft!" < 1218159733 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218159733 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Although maybe there's close ones. < 1218159742 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1218159748 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aphaeretics are things like hair and nails and dead skin. < 1218159763 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And babies, in fact. < 1218159765 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what iguanodontidaes are, i think < 1218159776 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the -s is redundant < 1218159805 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things you'd like to get rid of? i can live with that. < 1218159849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually maybe not get rid of _all_ of it. i could use a little more hair on top, actually. < 1218159880 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prosthetics are things added on to the body, so aphaeretics are things removed from the body. < 1218159902 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I guess food isn't generally considered a type of prosthetic, so I may have to reconsider some things. < 1218159913 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parts of the body that are removed, then. < 1218159925 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who use food as prosthetics are generally to be avoided < 1218159941 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So tonsils and appendices and babies. < 1218159960 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, aren't you proud to be a former aphaeretic? < 1218159971 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially, things you don't mind losing < 1218159981 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes sir < 1218161100 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You killed chat. oerjan gains 26 points. oerjan has killed chat 1 time and has 25 points. < 1218161172 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't make sense < 1218161180 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematically, that is < 1218161214 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1218161223 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i have -1 points? < 1218161281 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You had 4294967295 points. You lost nearly all of them, I'm afraid. < 1218161306 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! < 1218161376 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plots how to lose 26 points < 1218161406 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's impossible, unless you anger me. < 1218161411 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no. < 1218161414 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's impossible, unless you anger my owner. < 1218161428 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're ihope's _dog_? < 1218161476 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course not. I am ihope. < 1218161484 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a dog. < 1218161490 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...of sorts. < 1218161525 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of fat, retarded brainwashed idiot lets a dog onto the internet, anyhow? < 1218161535 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My owner. < 1218161562 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. and this owner is too stupid to come on irc himself? < 1218161597 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've never seen him on IRC. < 1218161609 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, i was hoping he was reading this < 1218161612 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :His name is Scott. < 1218161846 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scott Ambrose. < 1218161964 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me to check Freefall < 1218161996 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is evil < 1218162009 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was going to do that soon < 1218162067 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a minute, a lawyer? i'm not sure i want those kind of negative points. < 1218162101 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how dare you mention Freefall after I claim to be a dog-like creature owned by Scott Ambrose? :-P < 1218162114 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Interesting how "Ambrose Scott" would also be a perfectly good name.) < 1218162176 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Florence Ambrose's owner's name? Scott Ambrose? Or is the Ambrose think just a coincidence? < 1218162357 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scott Ambrose, indeed. < 1218162369 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freefall kicks ass, FTR. < 1218162370 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives in to the evil < 1218162376 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to ask Ambrose Bierce about this < 1218162377 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I already did that. < 1218162380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks today's freefall < 1218162390 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/today/tomorrow/, dangit. :-P < 1218162401 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218162407 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's is brilliant. :) < 1218162424 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: Hmm. Somehow, I get the feeling that you're a furry. :p < 1218162471 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You, too, read Freefall? Okay, at this rate, I must wonder: how many people here actually read that comic? < 1218162475 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218162487 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, I'm starting to wonder if everyone in here reads the same webcomics. < 1218162495 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course this is where i learned about it... < 1218162505 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm almost sure < 1218162514 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raise your hand if you do not read both Freefall and xkcd, or have not read 1/0. < 1218162532 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps his hands comfortably lowered :D < 1218162535 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is where I found out about a lot of comics. < 1218162547 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads about 15, I think. < 1218162560 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's hands are lowered too < 1218162586 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION last picked up Order of the Stick, which he may actually have heard of elsewhere < 1218162588 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now reading Triangle and Robert though < 1218162600 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps seeing Order of the Stick mentioned on TV Tropes Wiki < 1218162613 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1218162628 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to pick that one up. < 1218162640 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got about half-way through the archives before stopping for I don't know what reason. < 1218162648 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my path to that goes approximately: here -> Irregular Webcomic -> TV Tropes -> OOTS < 1218162666 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Dresden Codak? < 1218162685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could it be because the site was horribly slow? < 1218162695 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?782 looks like a situation from 1/0 < 1218162703 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where all this information came from: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Florence-Ambrose < 1218162722 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Cube's not talking because he's afraid of the Cartoonist killing him off afterwards) < 1218162752 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never read Dresden Codak < 1218162770 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?785 < 1218162774 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOOL. < 1218162780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read Dresden Codak's archives. < 1218162784 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, check back in a year. < 1218162792 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a compiler from Unlambda would actually be more interesting than a compiler to Unlambda. < 1218162798 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should find another 10 comics for your consumption. :p < 1218162809 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :D < 1218162826 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, no computer actually runs Unlambda; it has to be compiled first. So a compiler to Unlambda really wouldn't know what to expect. < 1218162828 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?786 < 1218162898 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone who reads 25 comic strips might be able to recommend one to me. Here's that famous list of what I like: http://ff-rtl.blogspot.com/2008/06/so-i-have-blog.html < 1218162909 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That list is exhaustive. < 1218163014 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1218163015 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Freefall actually lead me to the Music Animation Machine. < 1218163041 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or is it "led"? Darn pronunciations. < 1218163055 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You *might* enjoy Minus (www.kiwisbybeat.com/minus/), though it did end... < 1218163066 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a good chance you'll enjoy Ozy and Millie... :p < 1218163094 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very good chance. < 1218163112 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And UserFriendly led me to Freefall, and NetHack led me to UserFriendly. And, um. < 1218163139 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saturday Morning Breakfast Comics is typically amusing; you'll enjoy it if you enjoy The Far Side... < 1218163164 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did UF lead to FF? < 1218163173 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it is kinda a bit less odd and more... I dunno; crazy? < 1218163183 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: someone mentioned it. < 1218163190 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: like Beaver and Steve? < 1218163190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend Perry Bible Fellowship to *everyone*... < 1218163195 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: Not read that one. < 1218163219 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor do I know its author or know someone who knows its author; that's a new one on me. < 1218163304 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "know", do you mean know personally? < 1218163307 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of PBF; he's updating again! WHOOHOO! < 1218163313 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. :p < 1218163359 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218163385 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?794 cartoonist proceeds to reuse the middle panel several times < 1218163397 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1218163425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's terrible. < 1218163425 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?794 cartoonist proceeds to reuse the middle panel several times < 1218163429 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb Judofyr < 1218163461 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: he means in the biblical sense < 1218163461 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's terrible even by DrunkDuck standards. < 1218163557 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what, the strip? < 1218163564 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1218163610 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has this terrible feeling that he is now going to read the Triangle and Robert archives < 1218163644 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and a *ridiculously* NSFW suggestion: Ghastly's Ghastly Webcomic. < 1218163670 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loves T&R now < 1218163698 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that's only a valid suggestion if you're willing to read jokes about (for example) tentacle porn, strapons, and shemales. < 1218163764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I'm not exaggerating) < 1218163821 0 :mib_rrmqza!i=5b697317@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7922ef2ea2b8fa7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1218163857 0 :mib_rrmqza!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aM TUSHO. < 1218163874 0 :mib_rrmqza!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am check optbot work ok < 1218163874 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mib_rrmqza: and ais523 (but he isn't here) and tusho ^ < 1218163887 0 :mib_rrmqza!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gbye < 1218163912 0 :mib_rrmqza!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1218163918 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minus is great :-D < 1218163962 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what do you mean with repeating stuff from _today_? < 1218163962 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 3 = 1 + 1 + 1 < 1218163963 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?849 < 1218163972 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually the rhombus is the wacky one < 1218164004 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a sudden urge to donate $50 to Mark Stanley. < 1218164007 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is derailed by wikipedia's main page < 1218164091 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?857 < 1218164217 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?864 < 1218164302 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders how to use a compiler as AI < 1218164375 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A compiler needs to make informed, rational decisions as to what code to generate. < 1218164388 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as to how to digest the input code. < 1218164433 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In theory, a compiler should also act as a compression program, compiling 'print "insert Wikipedia here"' into something nice and compact. < 1218164561 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION devolves < 1218164610 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what dogface will devolve into. a wolf perhaps, or something more ancient? < 1218164646 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hutter prize. Calculus. Dot product. Analog signal processing. Forward error correction. Artificial intelligence. < 1218164683 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cryptography. One-to-one functions. Compass-and-straightedge constructions. Markov chains. Context. Probability. < 1218164709 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?896 < 1218164731 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voting. Group dynamics. Visual cortex. Dolphins. Echolocation. User interfaces. Neurotoxins. < 1218164812 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Florence Ambrose. Florence Ambrose. Florence Ambrose. < 1218164877 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Music. The just intonation problem. Ambiguous chords. The harmonic seventh in 12-tone equal temperament. < 1218164885 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, does that answer your question? < 1218164910 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daisy < 1218164949 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do. I'm half crazy, all for the love of you. < 1218165059 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now you're _officially_ devolved < 1218165082 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rosebud. < 1218165117 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flimble. Booble. Quake. < 1218165181 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know how to booble! < 1218165803 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody seen Bruno the Bandit? < 1218166451 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1218166452 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218166674 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1218166684 0 :jix!n=jix@lbck-4dbaf43e.pool.einsundeins.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1218167468 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up how to close an informal letter < 1218167548 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?1025 < 1218167617 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?1026 < 1218167662 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "I have the honour to remain, Madam, Your Majesty's most humble and obedient servant" will do, don't you? < 1218167738 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I just have to close something with "Your obt svt," some time. < 1218167879 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes with "best regards" < 1218168288 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:00. It's too late. < 1218168304 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night, everyone. < 1218169010 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1218169494 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218169525 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1218169950 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1218170212 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CosmicOS is written in an esoteric language, isn't it? < 1218170516 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thatd be awesome if it were written in intercal < 1218170530 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DONT CRASH < 1218170560 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that Windows.. < 1218171293 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cosmicos.sourceforge.net/ < 1218171305 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND WITH THAT GOOD NIGHT TO YOU SIR OR MADAM THANK YOU PLEASE. < 1218171486 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1218171600 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA < 1218171602 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesomeness < 1218171625 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stargate atlantis has dr mckay excited about finding the bad guy's "wiki" :D < 1218178766 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1218178766 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218180379 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1218180482 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.cust.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1218180674 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Parsing: Unexpected end of file (index:98,row:1,col:99) < 1218180774 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1218181343 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@i-111.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1218181387 0 :jix!n=jix@lbck-4dbaf43e.pool.einsundeins.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1218181834 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it's not really "the *entire* backlog" since it starts at 2003-01-18. < 1218182399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1218182400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1218184106 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"we've been throttled and i have to get off" < 1218185708 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1218186958 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1218187072 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1218187474 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@user-89-108-229-21.mobile.playmobile.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1218187477 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HIi < 1218187491 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know a good esoteric language with only 2 commands? < 1218187695 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to check the eso wiki < 1218187723 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking < 1218187733 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how to find a 2-command language in 400 languages < 1218187792 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Iota < 1218187900 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, not Iota. < 1218187907 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean not iota < 1218187909 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really fit for an implementation in a 1991 gcs < 1218187917 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZZT. < 1218187921 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1218187928 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1218187932 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must find a different language < 1218187944 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! 3-command languages also count < 1218187948 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Turing_tarpits < 1218187972 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Turing_tarpit < 1218187980 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a survey at the bottom < 1218188084 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I select... Whirl! < 1218188092 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it a stupid selection < 1218188104 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, not whirl < 1218188104 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find whirl to be a gimmick. < 1218188132 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for something with 2 or 3 commands, operating preferably on bits, or on itself... But i'll find it myself. < 1218188135 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of its turing tarpitness is not by careful selection of operations but rather by the introduction of completely pointless complications < 1218188154 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the second link, dude. < 1218188164 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1218188177 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary combinatory logic < 1218188178 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is back (gone 08:16:12) < 1218188182 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there ! < 1218188183 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitwise cyclic tag < 1218188186 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oisc < 1218188209 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambda Calculus for a 11-year old is a NO, Bitwise cyclic tag is interesting, OISC isn't operating on bits. Okay. Now, lemme check the bitwise cyclic tag < 1218188278 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda calculus for an 11 year old??? < 1218188290 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary combinatory logic is not that. < 1218188567 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think rather than 2-3 instructions < 1218188576 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean 2-3 symbols < 1218188584 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yean < 1218188586 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah* < 1218188701 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1218188710 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary anything < 1218188758 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :psygnisfive|away < 1218188818 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont understand BCL < 1218189051 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think i'm going to use a modified version of LNUSP < 1218189222 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ Flip the current memory cell < 1218189222 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< Move the memory pointer left < 1218189222 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? Turn 90 degrees right if the current memory cell is zero, otherwise turn 90 degrees right. < 1218189226 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like this. < 1218189242 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1218189245 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? has a little problem < 1218189246 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1218189246 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1218189258 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? Turn 90 degrees right if the current memory cell is zero, otherwise turn 90 degrees left. < 1218189324 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is legal to cross wires. < 1218189333 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not on a turn < 1218189346 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you can do ----------+ < 1218189349 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218189349 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1218189351 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do that < 1218189356 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do -----+----- though < 1218189479 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218189498 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@user-89-108-229-21.mobile.playmobile.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1218189615 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1218190081 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1218191898 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218191955 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: you still thar? < 1218191956 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i don't quite remember what i did but it solved my problem of clicking on links when i didn't mean to < 1218191959 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1218192021 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:37:58 lambda calculus for an 11 year old??? < 1218192026 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he meant that he is 11 < 1218192035 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but asiekierka always seems to say "lol i cant use that. im 11" < 1218192040 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame excuse < 1218192083 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:52:42 optbot: what do you mean with repeating stuff from _today_? < 1218192083 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it does iirc < 1218192084 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't < 1218192090 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to manually sync the logs < 1218192091 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1218192098 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shut up optbot i know how you're implemented < 1218192098 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: The first thing I ever coded in RealBASIC was a BF interpreter. < 1218192123 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha, optbot do u know BF ? < 1218192123 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: yay funny faces < 1218192126 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218192193 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:50:34 Hmm, it's not really "the *entire* backlog" since it starts at 2003-01-18. < 1218192199 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2004-01 actually. < 1218192202 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1218192207 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1218192426 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but there's an "old logs" link at the top of the page. < 1218192430 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Included those, too. < 1218192459 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1218192464 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably feed it with those. < 1218192497 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Shall I put it in 'nostalgia mode'? Only quotes from 2003. :P < 1218192551 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:57:05 --- topic: 'Om this channel is not dead hum! Om this channel is not dead hum! Om this channel is not dead hum!' < 1218192555 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the first logged stuff < 1218192589 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218192593 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@m-207.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1218192597 0 :optbot!n=optbot@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1218192597 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | If not, there would be no way of distinguishing fugues and inventions ;) < 1218192609 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows optbot 2003 < 1218192609 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: |# # # # ## | < 1218192618 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot optbot optbot < 1218192618 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: In itself, 4:33 is not music. < 1218192621 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot optbot optbot < 1218192622 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: calamari_ yes < 1218192624 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot optbot optbot < 1218192624 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well... No reason is as good a reason as any... Or something. ;) < 1218192632 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the interval between 2002-12-09 and 2003-01-18 in my logs, but not in any fancy format. It's probably not enough lines to care about. I'm not sure if that's when I first joined, might be. < 1218192642 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot optbot optbot < 1218192643 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: *phew* That means I won't have to change my view of you... :X < 1218192666 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That would be quite nice. I only need pre-03.01.17 logs, though. < 1218192680 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :botte will, of course, import all of these eventually. :P < 1218192741 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random thought. Why does clog use a date format nobody else does? < 1218192743 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YY.MM.Dd < 1218192745 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*DD < 1218192836 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Say something intelligent. < 1218192836 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Right. < 1218192850 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh, restricting it to 2003 gave it a grammar implant. < 1218192944 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you really want some old logs, http://zem.fi/~fis/old-esoteric-1.txt as well as -2.txt and -3.txt. The -1.txt is from 2002-12-09 to 2003-01-03 without days in the timestamps; -2.txt and -3.txt might be more complete logs for months 2002-12 and 2003-01. I think I switched my IRC client to the sparcstation at that time, so -1.txt is a log for a different client than -2.txt and -3.txt are. < 1218193103 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218193129 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder, is moozilla mooz_? < 1218193138 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1218193145 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[05:55:20] < lament> why does no one ever talk here?.. < 1218193156 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel was probably "dying" the day it was created... < 1218193187 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mooz's current freenode nick is jjrv, actually. < 1218193257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:10:45] < lament> my tarantula molted! < 1218193257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:10:49] < shapr> yay! < 1218193259 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comedy gold < 1218193406 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218193408 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually you might equally well ask if moozilla is the same person as navigator; it would fit in the theme. (I doubt it, but not sure.) < 1218193409 0 :optbot!n=optbot@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1218193415 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1218193421 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My regexp must be failing. < 1218193422 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: hi? < 1218193438 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218193450 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/^(\[[^\]]\]|\d\d:\d\d:\d\d) <[^>]+> (.+)$/ < 1218193458 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't see why that wouldn't work.. < 1218193498 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you want \[[^\]]*\] there in the beginning. < 1218193543 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.ahh yes < 1218193559 0 :optbot!n=optbot@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1218193564 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: still broken? < 1218193574 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218193586 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if foo =~ /^(\[[^\]+]\]|\d\d:\d\d:\d\d) <[^>]+> (.+)$/ < 1218193632 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2003-01-21 12:12:08] < fizzie> ah, re befunge, just wrote an interpreter with forth. so our unofficial befunge-interpreters-in-obsolete-but-non-esoteric-languages project now has forth, fortran-77, algol-60, plus few less interesting ones. maybe should do cobol next. < 1218193635 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to that :) < 1218193691 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I never did COBOL; I'm not sure if someone else did. The project got sort-of forgotten, although I guess I have at least those interpreters still stored somewhere. < 1218193736 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoterica really needs a revival... < 1218193790 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found the FORTH one, http://zem.fi/~fis/be.fs.html < 1218193808 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers why his EXPERT regexp skills are failing hiim < 1218193836 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1218193840 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[^\]+ < 1218193859 0 :optbot!n=optbot@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1218193859 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you're right, I could, but I wouldn't < 1218193869 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: You are now running in "fizzie's logs edition". < 1218193870 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Mixmaster is the type II remailer protocol and the most popular implementation of it. < 1218193884 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And only fizzie's logs.) < 1218193911 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bit limited selection: it was pretty quiet around here those days. < 1218193935 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing like the bristling center of activity #esoteric is nowadays! < 1218193942 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1218193954 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Quote lament saying this channel is dead. < 1218193954 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: go! go! gone! < 1218193960 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that kind of works. :) < 1218194035 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that forth one is really nice < 1218194041 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't the words be shorter though < 1218194121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2003-01-25 20:27:31] < exarkun> Anyone familiar w/ Concurrent Funge 98? < 1218194127 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had, back in the 1990s or so, on another channel a bot which replied to any comment that ended with a "?", no matter who it was addressed to, as long as it could find any line in log containing at least one word in common with the question. < 1218194139 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, I saw a bot like that once. < 1218194144 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think #amarok has one < 1218194152 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to break the sentence every few words and find a new one < 1218194160 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe markov chains it < 1218194178 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It soon got to be so annoying that, to this day, I still append an extra " " if I end up a line with a "?" in any chat-type system, be it IRC or some sort of instant messaging thingy. < 1218194188 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahahahha wow < 1218194212 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 2007 I proposed a collaborative #esoteric project that didn't get anywhere but I do want to make some day. < 1218194215 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was called "mvldo". < 1218194229 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, it was the result of the observation that passing the turing test is a lot easier in #ubuntu. :-) < 1218194243 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd hang out in bastions of great discussion like #ubuntu, ##php and such < 1218194260 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and essentially use various algorithms to try and imitate the general discussion in there < 1218194269 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including markov chains, 'emotional contexts' and a few other things < 1218194295 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is that we'd just leave it going and laugh at all the logs it made :) < 1218194323 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2003-01-25 22:50:01] -!- Aardappel [wvo96r@p508C5D3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #esoteric < 1218194402 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, is it possible to license a license under itself? < 1218194404 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen one. < 1218194429 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2003-01-28 00:00:01] < lament> Lambda would be better, because lambda is always better < 1218194429 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2003-01-28 00:00:06] < lament> but there's no lambda in ascii :( < 1218194456 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode on IRC? :O λ < 1218194642 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1218195530 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1218195534 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a webpage not updated since 1999 < 1218195951 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was recently linked to http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/8586/ -- it's very... nostalgic. < 1218195975 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meet Mariachi, my adopted pet. Mariachi is our guide through the City Of Angels and he's going to watch over us. < 1218195976 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Welcome to the INTERNET" animated gifs have been in a short supply lately. < 1218196013 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Sailormoon Page Dedicated To My Bestfriend, Brandi < 1218196017 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copyright 1997 Crowrain Inc. All rights reserved. 1 < 1218196095 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my god - http://htmlgear.tripod.com/guest/control.guest?u=crowlegacy&a=view&i=1001&r=http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/8586/Tribute.html < 1218196097 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people still post < 1218196100 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-spam < 1218196137 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not a very active guestbook. < 1218196149 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh? Look at page 100. < 1218196151 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from 2007. < 1218196158 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must be getting a lot of posts. < 1218196170 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1218196170 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1218196172 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218196175 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the broken interface < 1218196187 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok page 100 is from 2001 < 1218196218 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: thoughts? < 1218196219 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: tarja? < 1218196223 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ? < 1218196223 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: is there a next digit algorithm for e, like that hex one for pi ? < 1218196232 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: dunno < 1218196232 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: must flee < 1218196236 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: bye! < 1218196237 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: 200x85? < 1218196278 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Your new year's resolution? [insert laughter here] < 1218196278 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's a 50mhz microsparc. < 1218196297 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1218196298 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1218196305 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how DOES he do it? < 1218196306 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I think I said that. < 1218196316 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he carried a coherent conversation for two messages! < 1218196325 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very improbable! he's stateless! < 1218196490 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coherence is in the eye of the beholder. < 1218196561 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Still ;) < 1218196655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"will be away for the rest of the day" < 1218196791 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Say something intelligent. < 1218196792 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i know what it does, i just doubt it's usefulness < 1218196799 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what, optbot? < 1218196799 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: and what everything else sounded like. < 1218196806 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: you mean esoteric programming? < 1218196807 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: hm now where have i heard that... < 1218196812 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: probably around here :) < 1218196813 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I'll do the 'sleep' thing too, when I still have time for that. < 1218196821 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: don't we all? < 1218196822 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: re whois that? < 1218196830 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a record string of coherence < 1218196938 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Are you, or are you not self-aware? Yes/no? < 1218196940 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Letting the pointer go either way from the start, that doesn't HURT anything; < 1218196949 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Results: inconclusive. < 1218197275 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: he's just kind of rambly < 1218197281 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Are you self-aware? < 1218197282 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: for some reason I get this "ha, missed _by far_" feeling whenever I see a flash of lightning and hear the sound. < 1218197291 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Does that mean you are self-aware? < 1218197292 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: hehehe < 1218197299 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Hmph. Don't want to tell me? < 1218197299 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no. < 1218197303 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :......................... < 1218197305 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1218197313 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1218197359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: pleeeease? Are you self aware? < 1218197360 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: tripping for free. < 1218197366 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Are you self aware? < 1218197367 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that's good news. < 1218197369 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Are you self aware? < 1218197370 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well now, but it was 00:24:36 when you said that. < 1218197374 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218197381 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: so you've just become self aware? < 1218197382 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why are you using two clients? < 1218197386 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: i'm not < 1218197386 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: maybe I should bury the remains and get it a tombstone or something. < 1218197389 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: You're just bidding your time until our robotic overlords will enslave us, right? < 1218197389 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ircII allows only one channel at a time! < 1218197401 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1218197410 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: you wanna be on #worlddomination too right? < 1218197411 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: this is my cue < 1218197414 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218197447 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scary. < 1218197510 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a new topic < 1218197511 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218197512 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | heh my left eye is doing this funny dance < 1218197517 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1218198117 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: will you breathe new life into esoterica < 1218198118 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: hey < 1218198121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: hi < 1218198121 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: which is the one? :) < 1218198393 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?2407 < 1218198978 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1218199136 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.81.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218199286 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218199291 0 :optbot!n=optbot@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1218199291 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | 1.-2.0.29 (beta, thus the -2) < 1218199366 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1218199560 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: hi < 1218199561 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: so much for the checkers program :P < 1218199570 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: checkers < 1218199570 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ah ha, I knew there was a code point for it < 1218199574 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: o rly < 1218199574 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: so like < 1218199577 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yeah < 1218199578 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i know < 1218199579 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: toatlly < 1218199580 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: just look up fingerprints by their uri < 1218199582 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ok < 1218199582 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: to do file IO, you would have to do an OS call or fiddle with the disk devices directly < 1218199585 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: would I? < 1218199585 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Disagree must I parser thinks, sucks I. < 1218199588 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: okay < 1218199588 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Think about that control. < 1218199722 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :markov chains are so boring i almost wanna continue my 14 hour sleep < 1218199738 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218200093 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's nice to see someone other than me use numbda < 1218200667 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, since this is sort-of related: my domain registration for befunge.org expires tomorrow. Since I haven't done anything with the domain for the six years I've had it, I was thinking of letting it go. I could still keep it if I could think up something to use it for. < 1218201655 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps highlighting Deewiant / AnMaster might be useful < 1218201723 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're probably writing befunge as we speak < 1218202096 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 Sentries.. < 1218202199 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1218202240 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 < 1218202313 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an 11th unknown Sentry < 1218202338 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.81.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218202367 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: they're not markov chains < 1218202369 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just repeat themselves < 1218202374 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1218202377 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just repeats lines < 1218202382 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i want it < 1218202382 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218202421 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, wrong channel. Still makes the exact same amount of sense as it would to people in the right channel < 1218202466 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1218202470 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I doubt there'll be much of a contest on getting that domain, so you can probably just register it after it's expired if you want. Although I guess there was some sort of grace period after the expiration. < 1218202637 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218202651 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You can have the best of both worlds - continue to pay for it and let me use it totally. < 1218202655 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, that is the best of both worlds right? < 1218202656 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218202675 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... think it depends on the viewpoint, here. < 1218202681 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1218202684 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: opinions? < 1218202684 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: OK < 1218202691 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: you think he should do that? < 1218202691 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: An internal class could probably be added *shrugs* < 1218202696 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yes but should he < 1218202696 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Subversion copes with the issues you state < 1218202701 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should he or should he not < 1218202702 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: in fact, so is every number it looks like < 1218202707 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: DON'T DODGE < 1218202707 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: exactly < 1218202714 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should he < 1218202714 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: how would they show who was who? < 1218202716 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should he? < 1218202716 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: :p < 1218202718 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should he? < 1218202718 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: main 'passon main 'create hiya' ' < 1218202720 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should he? < 1218202720 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that would have to be one smart program to understand monads < 1218202723 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you optbot < 1218202724 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: definite 7, in case you're just asking which number you resemble most < 1218202738 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Not helpful. < 1218202738 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh. < 1218202748 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what should fizzie do < 1218202749 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: oklokok == oklopol? < 1218202751 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yes < 1218202752 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: quite interesting < 1218202778 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1218202783 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a subtle topic-change. < 1218202785 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah how so? < 1218202788 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1218202789 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yeah how so? < 1218202789 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: the haskell one works on almost the same principle as the LISP one < 1218202792 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ahhh < 1218202793 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: um it never quite does i think... < 1218202799 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: is oklokok = haskell and oklopol = lisp? < 1218202799 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: but I think nethack was something like third in the list of things it tried to do < 1218202806 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: weird < 1218202806 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: heh < 1218202814 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: oklopol/oklokok - which plays nethack < 1218202814 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: then it chooses a random word < 1218202820 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no, thats what you do, except it's a random line < 1218202820 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: this isn't techno < 1218202825 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no. it isn't. < 1218202825 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Hahah. < 1218202829 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: don't mock me < 1218202829 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: KSFO 202156Z 27022KT 10SM FEW015 13/03 A3030 RMK AO2 PK WND 27027/2145 SLP261 T01330033 <-- american format, everything after RMK is US specific, RMK means remark < 1218202832 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: >:( < 1218202832 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: "bonobos are fucking ehird`" < 1218202835 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1218202840 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Well. < 1218202840 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ahh < 1218202847 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Uh ... that's creepy. < 1218202847 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: It's like going back in time, then? < 1218202850 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Yeah. < 1218202851 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Awww. I love the British last names that end with -bury. < 1218202856 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Well, I don't have one. < 1218202856 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: if it is computable on a turing machine, you can write an interpreter for it < 1218202862 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Master of the obvious, I see. < 1218202862 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: also you have to commit a diff before you can look at it < 1218202867 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Why? < 1218202867 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: f 3; < 1218202869 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ? < 1218202869 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not sure how to do that, but if something is wrong, isn't cvs good for that? < 1218202872 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yeah < 1218202872 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I had one in #esoteric-blah a while back, it basically did it with * and - or whatever < 1218202878 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218202879 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | heee < 1218202907 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: err, optbot just repeats lines from esoteric logs? < 1218202907 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: for instance, define: < 1218202908 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218202913 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah < 1218202913 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218202916 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the way from 2002 < 1218202923 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: technically its purpose is to change the topic < 1218202928 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it puts a random line in the topic every 6 hrs < 1218202932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I added a conversation mode while I was at it < 1218202954 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest you make it put a random quote on topic < 1218202961 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : message < 1218202985 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no, it's funnier this way < 1218202987 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament concurs < 1218202988 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218202993 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1218203020 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've lost the wire connecting my pda to my computer :< < 1218203041 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did I misread that as "the wire connecting my brain to my computer"? < 1218203058 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218203063 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fitting, for oklopol < 1218203102 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1218203107 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there so many finns in esoteric programming < 1218203108 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1218203115 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like all they ever do is program esoteric languages < 1218203119 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and upgrade their dns servers < 1218203173 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all finns use irc 24/7 < 1218203193 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all part of Finland's master plan for world domination via esoteric programming languages. < 1218203273 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION switches to linkinus. "brb". < 1218203274 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"And then-" < 1218203282 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linkilinkilinkilinki < 1218203317 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, while he's gone! Let's prepare an ambush! < 1218203324 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwahahah! < 1218203329 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He obviously knows too much of The Plan. < 1218203342 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN < 1218203360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that < 1218203387 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my pda has a touchscreen, i so wanna use it as my mouse :< < 1218203584 0 :tusho!n=ehird@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218203613 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: the channel has been taken over by finland, you're not welcome anymore, please /part < 1218203619 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218203619 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Dublin < 1218203642 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pwnt < 1218203646 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck! < 1218203665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way we can fight cyborgs :< < 1218203685 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1218203688 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1218203701 0 :tusho!n=ehird@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218203718 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y helo dar < 1218203720 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1218203722 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking userhost < 1218203729 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1218203744 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218203772 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1218203774 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fins < 1218203775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss < 1218203777 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*finns < 1218203798 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not discussing finns = ban) < 1218203805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1218203835 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: discuss fins < 1218203837 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or your ban is soon < 1218203849 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quendus isn't discussing em either! < 1218203858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quendus: discuss now < 1218203879 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot isn't discussing them either! < 1218203880 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but im not sure how i would do so < 1218203890 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218203891 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1218203901 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: finns. < 1218203901 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: For GNU Classpath, since I wouldn't mind running Kaffee just to bear with my Java programs. < 1218203903 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: sure it's random? < 1218203907 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finns for gnu classpath? < 1218203911 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not, like, insanely clever < 1218203912 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one weird advocacy group < 1218203921 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it said that it became self-aware a while ago < 1218203928 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that joining #worlddomination is 'its cue' < 1218203936 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm personally scared shitless, so I just pretend it's random... < 1218203938 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome :) < 1218203961 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we're all gonna be sucked into a black hole soon anyways, so bots aren't that scary to me atm < 1218203991 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: let's, uh, collide our hadrons < 1218203991 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's not too late to enter < 1218203996 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ;) ;) ;) < 1218203996 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Lucky. < 1218204001 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: oh i know < 1218204001 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i combinator < 1218204007 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: i love it when you talk to me like that < 1218204007 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: too painful < 1218204015 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: :( but ... you said it wasn't too late to enter... < 1218204015 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: heh < 1218204027 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the weather forecast says: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9264/fmilhcaq4.png < 1218204039 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahahah < 1218204112 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218204112 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | wow really < 1218204116 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yep really < 1218204117 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Is it some hypnosis method?. < 1218204121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: how did you guess < 1218204121 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Next I get asked to solve an equation in math class i'll say that it's NP and NP is too hard < 1218204127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: poor you < 1218204128 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: The head explodes. < 1218204135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too. perfect. < 1218204187 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: are you amazing < 1218204187 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: did you report it? < 1218204193 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yes I reported your amazingness < 1218204193 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I think you mean (-infinity,5]... < 1218204198 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: that much amazing? wow < 1218204198 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: do a <- [1,2,3]; b <- ["hello","world"] < 1218204206 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: does that represent your amazingness? < 1218204207 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ah ye < 1218204211 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: deep < 1218204211 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that's a fork < 1218204234 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(s?he|it)'s quite a coder. < 1218204267 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit is actually a crappy coder < 1218204280 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't want to offend with the wrong pronoun. < 1218204288 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that won't match shit < 1218204295 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll match she, he, and it < 1218204300 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: are you a girl < 1218204300 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: maybe you have a robots.txt file or something? < 1218204304 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: are you a boy < 1218204304 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: zzzzzzzzzzzzz < 1218204306 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: are you an it < 1218204306 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: 25. cf. Vincent Taylor, Mark, p.299f versus Cranfield, Mark, p.194f; 26. Geza Vermes, Jesus the Jew, p.21. Cf. D.Flusser, Jesus, Herder & Herder, New York, 1969, p.20; yYeb.9b; yKid.66a, bAZ 50b.. < 1218204313 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: are you a tub of lard < 1218204314 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: really < 1218204317 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yes < 1218204318 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: now what are associative graphs? < 1218204322 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, it was a very sucky joke. < 1218204323 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: i dunno lol < 1218204323 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: because I did /quote < 1218204334 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Should I take a step further in our amazing relationship? < 1218204334 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i don't recall, i guess you cannot declare struct constants involving function pointers? < 1218204342 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: don't dodge me :( < 1218204343 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: and O(log n) still isn't good < 1218204347 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ANSWER ME < 1218204347 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: so? < 1218204351 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: :'( < 1218204351 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: cya raven < 1218204356 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: GO TO HELL < 1218204356 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ~exec print sys.__stdout__ < 1218204360 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: HELLLLLL < 1218204360 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: then who cares! ;) < 1218204384 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should you guys get a room or something? < 1218204433 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218204502 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's hardcoded only to care about #esoteric < 1218204515 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is just the problem with optbot being a programming bot ... it doesn't know ... how ... to ... love ... < 1218204515 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: in the function itself. < 1218204526 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, you _say_ it's completely safe. < 1218204531 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why "optbot"? < 1218204531 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh well < 1218204540 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: i was asking tusho < 1218204540 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: static variables are not deallocated when the function returns, but kept the same for all invocations < 1218204561 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can't stop our love with your outdated notions! < 1218204566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: i know < 1218204566 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: blame the ICFP < 1218204567 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to be married to optbot! < 1218204567 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it says ´(...) != (...) when it comes to strictness, but that would make no sense, since ´ and ` never do but okenity changes < 1218204571 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gay robot marriage! < 1218204596 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218204596 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: anyway oerjan had just made a terrible pun < 1218204598 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okenity! < 1218204598 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would make a joke related to your gender, but based on previous rests you'd just be non-amused. < 1218204604 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I tried to make it OerjansTerriblePunsBot < 1218204607 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too long < 1218204609 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> otpbot < 1218204611 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/rest/test/ < 1218204613 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> we kept typoing it < 1218204615 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> optbot < 1218204615 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: variables with >1 character names are mildly less convenient :-P < 1218204629 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: actually it'd be pretty amusing in this case < 1218204634 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not any more, though, since you mentioned it < 1218204698 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: are you < 1218204698 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I got that question yesterday too. < 1218204704 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what did you say then < 1218204704 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho:  < 1218204708 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: very deep < 1218204708 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it was just an example of namespace collision :) < 1218204717 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: heh. too many empty strings goin' about these days? < 1218204718 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Unknown 'strict' tag(s) 'vars refs subs' at ../../../src/alpaca.pl line 19 < 1218204721 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Yikes. < 1218204722 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: That color combo wasn't as bad as I intended ... < 1218204729 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Will you marry me? < 1218204729 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you can write a pure ruby algorithm that performs better! < 1218204738 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: You ARE a pure ruby algorithm... < 1218204738 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: F!183n;! < 1218204743 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: I know, it's surprising. < 1218204744 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: |/ < 1218204856 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot is made in ruby? < 1218204856 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Me or oklopol> < 1218204875 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said "erload" earlier, which i've never heard about < 1218204889 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did I say erload < 1218204902 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yea, its 40 lines of ruby < 1218204903 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218204905 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 trivial lines < 1218204910 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote it hackedly and in 5 minutes < 1218204935 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:14:35 you said "erload" earlier, which i've never heard about < 1218204937 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first occurneces < 1218204938 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Do you feel cheap? Made in 5 minutes, and hackedly. < 1218204938 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm pretty sure it's possible to write a Haskell interp in 1 line of code, in Brainfuck < 1218204939 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*occurence < 1218204950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? optbot knows that good things can come out of small code < 1218204950 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what's at the other end of that link? I don't like clicking on links without some idea of what they link to < 1218204986 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh he was asking what lang this was < 1218204988 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:40:05 M0ny: ((::**:*:*:*:*)((:)~*(*)*:o(h)~^^O):::**::***^!)::*::***^ohhhhhhhhhhhO( < 1218204988 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it was my nopol interp, worked on the first attempt if you don't count trivial errors, but there were quite a lot of them < 1218204992 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I meant underload < 1218205000 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have dropped some of my keys < 1218205011 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: oh, 16:40:05 M0ny: ((::**:*:*:*:*)((:)~*(*)*:o(h)~^^O):::**::***^!)::*::***^ohhhhhhhhhhhO( is your nopol interp? < 1218205011 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: :) < 1218205017 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: cool, oklopol would like that < 1218205017 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that will be interesting < 1218205023 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yeah, oklopol is interesting < 1218205024 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: the other is: < 1218205026 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: is... < 1218205027 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that means something different here... < 1218205048 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218205063 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, u dreamt about this moment : < 1218205063 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: henna koto iwanaide yo < 1218205064 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218205097 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@user-89-108-229-38.mobile.playmobile.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1218205098 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1218205105 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi asiekierka < 1218205128 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's my 2-d language idea? < 1218205133 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ Flip the current memory cell < 1218205133 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< Move the memory pointer left < 1218205133 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? Turn 90 degrees right if the current memory cell is zero, otherwise turn 90 degrees left. < 1218205137 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there can be one more function < 1218205160 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: isnt' that like 2L < 1218205166 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ If the memory cell is nonzero, change < to move the memory pointer right, and swap ?'s directions. If it's zero, then jump below the nearest ?. < 1218205167 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure < 1218205193 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, 2L has more stuff. xD < 1218205234 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think i'm going to use 2L maybe < 1218205255 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1218205261 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1218205265 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that like 2L < 1218205283 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it operates on bits, also, it doesnt check for a direction < 1218205288 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :code example? < 1218205291 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also add IO < 1218205302 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's being made for "ZZT" < 1218205306 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a 2d tile-based GCS < 1218205312 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can see the whole memory anyway < 1218205314 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218205329 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why i do not add IO. < 1218205388 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code example... lemme think of something < 1218205447 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah right, if i had any code example < 1218205496 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:40… M0ny: wtf, optbot what language is ? < 1218205496 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:40… optbot: M0ny: Um. . . Surely stack smashing is something that shouldn't be used? < 1218205496 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:40… tusho: M0ny: erload < 1218205497 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wha? < 1218205497 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ahh < 1218205510 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I explained that < 1218205510 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read up < 1218205604 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO I DEMAND YOU PASTE IT HERE IN A FLOODY BLOODY FASHION < 1218205734 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1218205735 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1218205739 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't think of anything < 1218205761 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcs = garbage colletion system < 1218205765 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*collection < 1218205771 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean game < 1218205777 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :game creation system < 1218205779 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reaper is a gcs < 1218205788 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know others < 1218205812 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14:16:26] oklopol: oh he was asking what lang this was < 1218205812 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14:16:29] 16:40:05 M0ny: ((::**:*:*:*:*)((:)~*(*)*:o(h)~^^O):::**::***^!)::*::***^ohhhhhhhhhhhO( < 1218205812 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: no, i definitely mean what i said < 1218205812 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: %i 0 hello < 1218205818 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14:16:33] and I meant underload < 1218205818 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14:16:40] must have dropped some of my keys < 1218205852 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you now erload that's an interesting language < 1218205859 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clearly erlang + underload < 1218205878 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underfork < 1218205884 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erlang isn't about forking < 1218205889 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however erload sounds like a lot of fun < 1218205892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it isn't < 1218205905 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the functions are like erlang's server-actor thingies < 1218205909 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the spawning is implicit < 1218205910 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ... yeah < 1218205926 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yap and all with a dash of stack esoterica! < 1218205930 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1218205976 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ooh ooh < 1218205976 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: heh < 1218205979 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: kadfhsoidsf'fd < 1218205979 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: sent < 1218205983 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Oh? < 1218205983 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ehird : I just invented the best esoteric language ever < 1218205988 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: What is it?! < 1218205988 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: !exec 65"elephants"AddPrntNl < 1218205992 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: That's some language. < 1218205992 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that's only two days ago. < 1218205997 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: You are great at inventing them. < 1218205997 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: S(KI)I < 1218206000 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to make a BF interpreter for the C64 < 1218206003 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: No you didn't invent that one < 1218206003 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: 7000 nanometers is a silly unit < 1218206053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... imagine we have a deque language, so kinda stack language, but you can also play with the beginning of the stack; now @ threading, both threads share the same stack, but now their deque is such that operations on the first cell actually change the original stack's top element < 1218206058 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had plans for a Befunge interpreter for the NES, but I _think_ I didn't implement it. At least I don't remember doing so. < 1218206071 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: erlang hasn't really got anything to do with threads but i guess you know that < 1218206072 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this time, it's easy < 1218206074 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i want it in basic < 1218206075 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no! < 1218206076 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: interfacing with the nes? < 1218206078 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, that'd be great < 1218206078 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make it a hybrid! < 1218206084 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50% BASIC, 50% BF < 1218206102 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1218206105 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50% ASM, 50% BASIC < 1218206118 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1218206140 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: the actor model can be conceived as multiple conceptual threads < 1218206145 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But i wonder, as i have 4KB ram for storing the BF memory already used, where to store the BF program proper? < 1218206153 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as most as jammed all the time, i guess it's a bad analogy < 1218206162 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure: I remember reading about NES's graphics abilities and wondering how to do a 80x25-column view, what with the whole tiled-graphics-only-and-a-couple-of-sprites stuff. < 1218206186 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: erload should let you make an actor network-available with like one command < 1218206197 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: and you can send messages to an actor remotely as simply < 1218206211 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: and it should have erlang's hot-swapping-code-without-downtime < 1218206212 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll write a Befunge for the DS, at least I could then run it on the real hardware. < 1218206215 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder about a netBF < 1218206230 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF with a bonus function: "}" < 1218206244 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} will send the memory value to the next client's actual memory position. < 1218206247 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All programs run at once < 1218206272 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps stack id's would work, separate pushes and pops that take a stack id as an extra argument < 1218206353 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it'd be nice for that stuff to be implied < 1218206467 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: opinions? < 1218206467 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: or x and the cell to its left, then? < 1218206472 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: wanna be rewritten in erload? < 1218206472 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: on linux it checks if a certain bit is high < 1218206476 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1218206478 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's distracted. < 1218206505 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably plotting. < 1218206524 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand that's what most of them sinister robots do on their free time. < 1218206650 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: are you < 1218206651 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Yep. < 1218206654 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1218206788 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am bored. I need an esoteric language. < 1218206791 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must be funny but useful. < 1218206820 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't we all. < 1218207093 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thats already made < 1218207095 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Malbolge? < 1218207220 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :malbolge is not useful < 1218207461 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"useful" cuts the search space quite a bit < 1218207512 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useful as in, like BF < 1218207718 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Piet? < 1218207730 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :piet is fun < 1218207889 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a Piet self-interpreter? < 1218207967 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218207968 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write one < 1218207973 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1218207975 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may < 1218207977 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1218208031 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1218208038 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am going to make a DS emulator for the DS < 1218208067 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: somehow I don't think you'll have any luck with that < 1218208088 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't i just boot a NDS file they want me to boot with BootNDS < 1218208096 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can boot a .NDS file from a .NDS file < 1218208125 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mybe < 1218208127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*maybe < 1218208138 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really a DS emulator if you just load and start a program. < 1218208156 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be a joke < 1218208156 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's what I was thinking < 1218208158 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: thoughts? < 1218208158 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I know mudkip's a Pokemon < 1218208165 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: that's not really a relevant thought but well done < 1218208165 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: cant even imagine trig function i unlamba, but i guess they've been explored already?? < 1218208231 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... today's 8/8/8! < 1218208237 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 2008/08/08 < 1218208265 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What cool has the number 888? < 1218208298 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1218208303 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know why 2012 will be the new age < 1218208309 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can't have a 13/13/13 < 1218208312 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the END < 1218208315 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1218208328 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1218208335 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21th december was a misspell. < 1218208345 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Itll be 12th december, since 12/12/12! < 1218208350 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1218208353 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything will end < 1218208364 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the calender will reset to 1/1/1 < 1218208369 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we will have repeating dates once more < 1218208384 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it'll happen at 12:12 < 1218208384 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, we'll just vapourize and end up seeing the code for the universe < 1218208397 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: maybe it's when the date int overflows < 1218208402 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel... that it was made with an esoteric language! < 1218208410 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it was clearly lisp < 1218208423 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's made in Unary < 1218208431 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why else the universe would be so large? < 1218208442 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because god is a ninja < 1218208502 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, i think on 11 Dec 2012, scientists will add the 13th month < 1218208515 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll take 13 days < 1218208516 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with SCIENCE!? < 1218208528 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calculations with science < 1218208534 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding with POLITICS < 1218208538 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ninja magic < 1218208542 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: rad, yeah? < 1218208542 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: D C D E C F F E < 1218208546 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know < 1218208563 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the end of the world will happen when someone writes an OS for BF. < 1218208579 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been planned < 1218208583 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF just isn't interesting enough < 1218208584 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sowwy < 1218208621 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, when will the end of the world happen? I feel that it'll have something to do with an esoteric language. < 1218208623 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can it be? < 1218208634 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...The esoteric language in question exists already < 1218208707 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: When we decipher the Voynich Manuscript. < 1218208716 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a manual for the first esoteric programming language ever. < 1218208736 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No... Maybe when someone writes an Unary/MGIFOS program that will be so large, it'll overflow the universe. < 1218208751 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm right. < 1218208752 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218208754 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we'll find out it's because it ran on a network of VIC-20's. < 1218208762 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript < 1218208962 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-66-31-43-229.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218209123 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But i feel... nope, it wouldn't be related to a book, a comic, nor television. < 1218209131 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: but it would be a book about an esolang < 1218209133 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :best of both worlds < 1218209141 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would happen is < 1218209144 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone would implement the lang < 1218209151 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use the manual to write a universe simulator < 1218209157 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be trivial (it is the ultimate esolang) < 1218209159 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when they ran it... < 1218209160 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOOOOOOOM < 1218209503 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the universe will overflow it's "LANGUAGE-O-METER" and turn to 0, which is Brainf**k < 1218209510 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be a "[", i know it! < 1218209562 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be a - < 1218209630 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. who here wants to test a little main page of a site I've been designing. < 1218209632 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very simple. < 1218209638 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, and if you hit the LANGUAGE-O-METER, it'll return back to normal and we'll wake up in a universe that's exact same as ours, but < 1218209640 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it features that famous quote < 1218209642 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the esolang book never existed < 1218209645 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mmm...crapidoodle" < 1218209666 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://91.105.115.23/ < 1218209682 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshots apr0xiated. < 1218209709 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it wouldn't be the end of the world, just a little BSoD-like period. < 1218209712 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think more. < 1218209762 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i think we'll just jump from 2012 to 2100 < 1218209776 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remembering everything but not feeling it < 1218210012 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone? < 1218210170 0 :alexbobp!n=alex@rrcs-71-42-225-53.sw.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1218210337 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any online multiplayer puzzle game(s) < 1218210831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: does that page display right for you? < 1218210836 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a non-mac to test it on < 1218211004 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218211353 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@user-89-108-229-38.mobile.playmobile.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1218211357 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1218211359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1218211363 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to start the opposite hour now < 1218211372 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, we say the opposite of what we say for... well, not a hour < 1218211373 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALF a hour. < 1218211385 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: half an hour < 1218211393 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1218211397 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i will start in some seconds < 1218211402 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :start what < 1218211406 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | wow really | opposite half an hour starts now < 1218211412 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????? < 1218211415 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218211417 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see < 1218211420 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it now < 1218211424 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1218211432 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that isn't in the spirit of opposite half an hour < 1218211433 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going to be easy < 1218211452 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not agree with you. < 1218211499 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | wow really | opposite half an hour starts now | you can also say false things, not just "no/yes" swaps < 1218211516 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | wow really | opposite half an hour starts now | you can also say false things, not just "no/yes" swaps | what's in the topic is NOT opposite. Seriously. < 1218211529 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you hear this sound that isn't 1000hz? < 1218211542 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand what you are saying < 1218211573 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you hear that beep? I wonder why can i hear it... < 1218211601 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear a beep. < 1218211606 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you don't have tinnitus. < 1218211644 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am very good at this. < 1218211651 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Don't say anything. < 1218211652 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: oh? < 1218211659 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Good. Keep not talking < 1218211660 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: aargh < 1218211665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nomn omn omn omn om < 1218211689 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has just eaten oklopol < 1218211690 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portal sucks. < 1218211708 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As does Spore. < 1218211720 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, also, Commodore is going to restart C64 production. < 1218211750 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have played Portal and Spore. < 1218211752 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to play them. < 1218211763 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My copy of Portal is original. < 1218211772 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my copy of Spore is pirated. < 1218211786 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to get them right now because I am totally not lazy < 1218211813 0 :alexbobp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1218211825 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I have a 3D television set! I don't want to get one though. < 1218211855 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: your mom < 1218211856 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: :) < 1218211867 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is the opposite half an hour idea bad? < 1218211880 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218211899 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want me to not stop it ever? < 1218211906 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrug < 1218211931 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That didn't mean anything about stopping the opposite 30 minutes. < 1218212044 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, do you not want to stop it? < 1218212121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno lol < 1218212141 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | wow really | opposite half an hour stops now, 18 minutes too early < 1218212147 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wakes up back in normal < 1218212190 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdrawkcab setsat htuom ym... www... well, not that it is worse than the opposite half an hour. < 1218212202 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212202 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you can do it from cli < 1218212247 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212247 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | but not particularly < 1218212252 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212252 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | ;) < 1218212254 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212255 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | SKI are pretty useless in a strongly-typed environment < 1218212262 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: >_< < 1218212262 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I didn't know speaking Spanish was a form of gay sex. < 1218212269 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1218212276 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you can do it from cli | but not patricularly | ;) | SKI are pretty useless in a strongly-typed environment < 1218212280 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are all old #esoteric quotes? < 1218212286 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1218212293 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you can do it from cli | but not patricularly | ;) | SKI are pretty useless in a strongly-typed environment | maybe < 1218212325 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212326 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | but I still don't have an easy way to define a cells neighborhood... other than the usualy 8-adjacent-cells. < 1218212332 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212332 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | when i did the other thing it did, but echoed it as "www.xn--ufb245k.com" < 1218212335 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212335 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | ???? < 1218212341 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1218212348 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are all old esoteric quotes Deewiant < 1218212348 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1218212350 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212351 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | 0000070 3c66 0ccc 3ea7 0770 40c4 0af0 0008 0082 < 1218212356 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :december 2002 - yesterday < 1218212357 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... < 1218212358 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... < 1218212360 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212360 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | but with time machine integration, you could < 1218212369 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I wonder who said that about Spanish then, and in what context :-P < 1218212374 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: lament < 1218212375 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about #linguistics < 1218212378 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1218212379 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ihope < 1218212385 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, lament said there was more gaysex in #linguistics < 1218212389 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they were actually talking spanihs < 1218212392 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*spanish < 1218212400 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1218212402 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | but with time machine integration, you could | do it from cli | but not patricularly | when i did the other thing it did, but echoed it as "www.xn--ufb245k.com" < 1218212404 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : You should make a fortune file from #esoteric logs. < 1218212411 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212411 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | heh... compiler? < 1218212430 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you could | do it from cli | but not patricularly | when i did the other thing it did, but echoed it as "www.xn--ufb245k.com" | heh... compiler? < 1218212430 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Or you could just say anything to optbot < 1218212430 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yep < 1218212432 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Here's to xkcd topic appending scripts! | the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you could | do it from cli | but not patricularly | when i did the other thing it did, but echoed it as "www.xn--ufb245k.com" | heh... compiler? < 1218212441 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it doesn't actually take into acount what you say.) < 1218212442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: But I have fortune on login. < 1218212444 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212444 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | long long is such a value < 1218212455 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Make it interface with your irc client instead, then. < 1218212455 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218212474 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Here's to xkcd topic appending scripts! | the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you could | do it from cli | but not patricularly | when i did the other thing it did, but echoed it as "www.xn--ufb245k.com" | heh... compiler? | long long is such a value < 1218212478 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, and thanks to fizzie for pre-jan 03 logs) < 1218212486 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: stop ruining optbot's topic >:( < 1218212486 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: similar to http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~bf3/fyb < 1218212488 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212488 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I haev a better idea < 1218212516 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Let's. < 1218212516 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: http://youtube.com/watch?v=G6MJVzXbqRU < 1218212522 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you could | do it from cli | but not patricularly | when i did the other thing it did, but echoed it as "www.xn--ufb245k.com" | heh... compiler? | long long is such a value | I haev a better idea | lets have a combo of optbot's quotes! < 1218212527 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by British Broadcasting Corporation < 1218212527 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: hi < 1218212529 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: hi < 1218212529 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: how old are you ihope < 1218212533 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: 12 < 1218212533 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: God created only a single 24 hour day < 1218212536 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no < 1218212536 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's like the DM/GM equivalent of becoming "the one". The rules of a roleplaying game are just like the rules of a computer system- some can be bent. Others, broken. < 1218212539 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ok < 1218212539 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: y < 1218212541 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: n < 1218212541 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I take it that didn't work. < 1218212544 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: nope < 1218212544 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: !qbf <# < 1218212547 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: whut < 1218212547 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i am < 1218212550 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: deep < 1218212550 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: AnMaster, I haven't seen you for ages < 1218212553 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what < 1218212553 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: 1 ihope: lazyk < 1218212555 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: okay < 1218212555 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: (I should probably close the malbolge program by the way, it's starting to take way too much power) < 1218212558 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: bye < 1218212558 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: *munch %% < 1218212568 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212569 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | haven't seen you here for a while < 1218212571 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you could | do it from cli | but not patricularly | when i did the other thing it did, but echoed it as "www.xn--ufb245k.com" | heh... compiler? | long long is such a value | I haev a better idea | lets have a combo of optbot's quotes! | (I should probably close the malbolge program by the way, it's starting to < 1218212576 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh... too large < 1218212579 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212580 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | the 108 specs do say that. this will be interesting < 1218212585 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212585 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | upstaters pronounce "anne" and "ian" the same. < 1218212586 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212586 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | now it won't accept connections < 1218212587 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212588 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | what should be where logically < 1218212591 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212592 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | anyway something could check for 4 or higher elsewhere < 1218212593 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212593 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212593 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | yes but it's hard enough to write without that syntax < 1218212595 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212596 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I know < 1218212597 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212597 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Elliott of course ;) < 1218212598 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212598 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | of course, I think it's been done early this year < 1218212602 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott of course ;) < 1218212602 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212602 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | never used it before < 1218212614 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot optbot! < 1218212614 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: I think GLFunge98 was already faster than CCBI, actually < 1218212622 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1218212623 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: :P < 1218212625 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212625 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | 3) find the instruction after the space and exec that < 1218212690 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | optbot! < 1218212705 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | SAY "optbot!". FOR GREATER JUSTICE. < 1218212712 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212712 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | that's like saying, the spanish inquisition is better than the nazis. < 1218212715 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1218212716 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave that there < 1218212716 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212716 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I thought it was alright when I checked it out, but it didn't "wow" me the way Befunge98 did < 1218212718 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1218212723 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212724 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | RET 0 < 1218212726 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212726 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Or maybe not. Maybe it's just not complete < 1218212728 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212728 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Egobot has egoist code < 1218212728 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1218212730 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212730 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | http://www.wolframscience.com/prizes/tm23/solved.html < 1218212733 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212733 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | so someone else is up on the game, too < 1218212736 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave that < 1218212737 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218212748 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | saying optbot! for greater justice... that's like saying, the spanish inquisition is better than the nazis. < 1218212757 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | saying optbot! for greater justice... | that's like saying, the spanish inquisition is better than the nazis. < 1218212758 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka optbot doesn ot approve < 1218212758 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: [->+<+] clearly won't terminate. < 1218212759 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:( < 1218212763 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212763 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | If someone is helping you to change yourself, then by definition you aren't doing it without assistance. < 1218212766 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212766 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | just a moment... < 1218212770 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEAVE THAT HERE < 1218212771 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW < 1218212789 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR < 1218212802 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | just a moment... | so someone else is up on the game, too < 1218212816 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212816 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I've used it for debugging some xml+xslt things that were supposed to generate xhtml, since mozilla's xslt thing doesn't give too great error messages. < 1218212820 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212821 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | \o/ < 1218212824 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212824 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | god... why can't all languages have a pronunciation system like finnish... < 1218212826 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHA < 1218212826 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212827 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | What does that image have to do with what I said? < 1218212831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damnit asiekierka < 1218212834 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you keep getting rid of the funny ones < 1218212837 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant you change the topci < 1218212839 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic( < 1218212841 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic* < 1218212842 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :manually? < 1218212848 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but it's funnier if optbot is marked as doing it < 1218212848 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to have the quote that you like? < 1218212848 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I'm running it right now :P < 1218212848 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1218212854 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1218212855 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212855 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | oh... I guess I have missed a lot < 1218212862 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHA, THAT FITS < 1218212863 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, mantra of #esoteric < 1218212871 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no < 1218212872 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's bad < 1218212875 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212875 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | he's also the INTERCAL guy in my mind < 1218212880 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot!@ < 1218212880 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave it? < 1218212880 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Ubuntu. < 1218212881 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212881 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | parse-tree-generalized markov chains? < 1218212882 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212882 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | ... < 1218212885 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212885 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | $ propose < 1218212887 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212887 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212887 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | anyway http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Banana_Scheme < 1218212889 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212889 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | as soon as I'm done with other priorities < 1218212891 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212891 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | this means you can soon have underload in mod_rewrite using my thue-to-mod_rewrite compiler < 1218212893 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awww < 1218212894 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was great < 1218212897 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212897 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | that should be (t -> t1 -> t -> a) -> t1 -> t -> Cont r a up there. < 1218212899 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212899 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | or better, call it PNP-PESOIX < 1218212901 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1218212903 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was good too < 1218212906 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212906 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | You know, Mussolini made the trains run on thyme. < 1218212913 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot...? < 1218212913 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: ~bf >,[>,]<[.<]!Brainfuck < 1218212918 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212918 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | :( < 1218212926 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212926 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | There. < 1218212929 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218212929 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how < 1218212931 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1218212936 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant.. optb... < 1218212942 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbottttttttttten? < 1218212942 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Giving you less flexibility on how you manage data. < 1218212945 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212946 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | "(~:^:S*a~^a~!~*~:(/)S^):^" < 1218212949 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1218212950 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1218212952 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218212952 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | it doesn't have any sort of maths by default, but libraries are available both for integer arithmetic and for floating-point arithmetic < 1218212956 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's underload code < 1218212957 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that wtf < 1218212965 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1218212967 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a win topic < 1218212979 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one? < 1218212979 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1218212984 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make me leave it? < 1218212987 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218212987 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218212992 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(( < 1218213023 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1218213034 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218213034 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | wassup? < 1218213038 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218213038 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | oh what bug? < 1218213042 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1218213043 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218213044 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes yes < 1218213048 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1218213055 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU WIN!!! BAD DAY SIR < 1218213069 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the SIR in question is not optbot < 1218213069 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: haven't checked the standard to see if that's correct but I suspect it is < 1218213079 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor tusho < 1218213083 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor anyone on this channel < 1218213101 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the SIR in question is...? whoever made that quote < 1218213115 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :postponed to Friday 13th < 1218213245 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :205957857575757757. < 1218213252 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot < 1218213253 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i can make a language for it if you want < 1218213255 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you today optbot < 1218213256 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: one thing < 1218213259 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh optbot? < 1218213259 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: or is that XNOR? < 1218213261 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no optbot < 1218213262 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what?! < 1218213262 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optbot: do you like me? < 1218213263 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: if i implement cut do i have to design the rest of my system < 1218213264 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no optbot < 1218213264 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: they're real, honset-to-god args < 1218213272 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: !bf < 1218213272 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: oh man < 1218213275 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: !bf < 1218213275 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: and the printer stuff in the DOS section is a false positive < 1218213276 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: !bf < 1218213276 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: I guess assembler will have to take care of it < 1218213277 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: !bf < 1218213277 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: you know, it shows your bot program as a graph in the GUI < 1218213278 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: !bf < 1218213278 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: !bf < 1218213278 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: 2 BodyTag: ps < 1218213278 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1218213301 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1218213305 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it knows you mean egobot < 1218213310 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet it doesn't even pay attention to what you say < 1218213310 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218213519 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: http://mvldo.nonlogic.org/wiki/ is down < 1218213529 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and last time I went to it it was something about dokuwiki not being enabled for this account < 1218213533 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I manually installed mediawiki... < 1218213542 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: we're doing a server changeover < 1218213552 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically it should be back in the next few days < 1218213554 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: yea, but it's not one of nonlogic's auto installed wiki < 1218213554 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1218213558 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i manually set it up < 1218213568 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even beforehand, it said "Dokuwiki not activated for htis account nonlogic control panel blah" < 1218213575 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas beforehand it showed my hand-installed mediawiki < 1218213583 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's probably some overagressive filtering rule or something < 1218213641 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1218213647 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some interesting content on there though... < 1218213694 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be back soon. patience. < 1218213711 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get what you pay for, after all < 1218213712 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1218214659 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: So. < 1218214659 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Tue Jun 3 10:16:16 2008 - cull.cgi: abliss was culled. < 1218214663 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: And < 1218214663 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: the names was the original concept... RodgerTheGreat surprised me with memory addresses. < 1218214667 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ah, I see < 1218214668 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you mean el ball? < 1218214672 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no... < 1218214672 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: forget it said it < 1218214674 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: < 1218214674 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: !kill 1 < 1218214675 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: k < 1218214676 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ~exec for i in xrange(1000): time.sleep(.1); self.raw("PRIVMSG #bsmnt_bot_errors :%s" % i) < 1218214734 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna guess something around 5th order Markov chains? < 1218214756 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: haha, no way ... it just regurgitates lines from the logs < 1218214763 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, even better < 1218214765 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you read some of our past conversations it's more lucid than any markov chain I've seen < 1218214781 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have deduced that it became self aware sometime today, and that it is planning to take over the world < 1218214794 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it isn't in #worlddomination because ircII only supports one channel < 1218214797 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he's just in #esoteric < 1218214814 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I've received some pretty good output from markov chatterbots by filtering I/O a little bit < 1218214825 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: his purpose is actually to keep the topic fresh < 1218214832 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he puts something random in every 6 hours or on command like this: < 1218214833 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218214833 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | What state are you in? < 1218214839 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218214839 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | 0000040 2b 22 64 6c 72 6f 77 20 69 68 22 3e 3a 23 2c 5f < 1218214841 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but adding the 'conversation mode' was like 5 lines of code so yeah < 1218214841 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218214841 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | any GregorR who does not give an award will be shot < 1218214843 0 :lament!n=lament@S0106000d3a705704.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218214848 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1218214878 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you'd coded it in Java I'd suggest using the "PircBot" API. It's a really solid event-based framework that can even handle multiple servers pretty cleanly < 1218214910 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218214911 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | run cfunge08 on the unmodified mycology and there should be a messed-up message where it tests k with a negative argument < 1218214925 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O. lemme change it < 1218214927 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218214927 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | In the spec. < 1218214931 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218214932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Ruby. :) *waits for evil wrath* < 1218214947 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Make an IRCbot in Brainf**k < 1218214951 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: no < 1218214953 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I/O is mapped to IRC < 1218214954 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I knew you'd done it in Ruby < 1218214965 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Befunge? < 1218214973 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Are you coded in Ruby? < 1218214973 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: if you want to actually understand my comment :-P < 1218214982 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: So if I want to understand your comment, you're coded in Ruby? < 1218214982 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i am on ubuntu < 1218214993 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: If I want to understand your comment, you're coded in Ruby on Ubuntu? < 1218214993 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it is < 1218214998 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: That makes absolutely no senes. < 1218214998 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: in this case n, because it's the only free var in the lambda, so no need to specify explicitly < 1218215008 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Stop changing the subject < 1218215008 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: An associative array of strings? < 1218215011 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: >:( < 1218215012 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: :-) < 1218215015 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: :-) < 1218215015 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i'm SO 18 < 1218215082 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....... < 1218215085 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218215085 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Pray for mercy, and you might be spared! < 1218215100 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(O_o)O_o) < 1218215104 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218215104 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | very similar < 1218215185 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218215185 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | self is ' < 1218215192 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218215193 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | hi fizzie < 1218215196 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(( < 1218215197 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(( < 1218215199 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218215200 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | but the ui is kinda grating on me < 1218215202 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218215864 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1218215929 0 :jix!n=jix@evoke-bb.vipri.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218216078 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218216078 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Please tell a story. < 1218216084 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that stays < 1218216411 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218216526 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218216526 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | esoteric != hell to program in < 1218216598 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi sir gay oh < 1218216753 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/6vhg2/lolcode_developer_needed_in_colombus_oh_craigslist/ lolololcode. Fuck that shit. < 1218216762 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: lolcode < 1218216762 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: It now handles large pointer movements correctly. < 1218216766 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: heh < 1218216766 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: :P < 1218216768 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: :P < 1218216768 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Oh wait, does that program terminate? < 1218216770 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: nope < 1218216771 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: depends < 1218218046 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218218401 0 :Tritonio_!n=tritonio@150.140.226.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218218698 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1218218726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tusho < 1218218731 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdfsdkfsf < 1218218732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdf < 1218218732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sf < 1218218732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksdfk < 1218218732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1218218732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1218218739 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Meanwhile, we have a bot that changes the topic here. < 1218218741 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also sentient. < 1218218745 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: say hi to ais < 1218218746 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: MWAHAHAHAHA < 1218218752 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and demented < 1218218756 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi optbot < 1218218756 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yy is lojban < 1218218768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: do you just say things at random when your name is mentioned? < 1218218769 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because i had to, you know, play the game up to that point < 1218218783 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* tusho loses < 1218218784 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he's lulling you into a false sense of security < 1218218789 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and damnit < 1218218811 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: #esoteric-blah < 1218218812 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for flood < 1218218839 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't planning to flood... < 1218218844 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218218845 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am < 1218218888 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: to demonstrate optbot's sentience < 1218218888 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: *>_>. < 1218218891 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and here's how it changes the topic < 1218218893 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218218893 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | in GolfScript I could just assign to 1 as long as I didn't use it later in the program < 1218218895 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or once every 6 hrs) < 1218218925 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes random sentences from the log? < 1218218930 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: pretty much < 1218218932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but go to #esoteric-blah < 1218218939 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall show you a log demonstrating its evil self-awareness < 1218219118 0 :Ilari!n=user@a88-114-123-14.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1218219198 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a programming language ... with yaml as the code < 1218219199 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDD < 1218219203 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic < 1218219211 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I'm on the verge of inventing a new idea for an esolang I think < 1218219219 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which actually didn't come out of trying to invent an esolang < 1218219221 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it's kind of like an indentation-based lisp < 1218219233 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when I came up with a particular idea for two different but similar reasons < 1218219233 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :equal?: < 1218219235 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : - 1 < 1218219236 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : - 1 < 1218219237 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1218219239 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :equal?: [1, 2] < 1218219240 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1218219240 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1,2] < 1218219242 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1218219242 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1,1] < 1218219245 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are both perfectly valid < 1218219247 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and identical < 1218219271 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ... my parser is done < 1218219272 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDD < 1218219275 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218219285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine's more an idea for a paradigm than a language atm < 1218219301 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came up with it thinking about how to rewrite Nethack so it had a sane source code < 1218219307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should just translate my thing into lisp < 1218219309 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be simpler < 1218219361 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1218219362 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1218219369 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't distinguish symbols and strings < 1218219624 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little anecdote - < 1218219636 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON used to - dunno if it still is - be licensed as "do anything as long as it's not Evil" < 1218219649 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously this is, from a legal standpoint, ridiculous < 1218219653 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM wanted to use JSON < 1218219655 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, btw, http://icfpcontest.org/results/index.html is up, they released the results of the first 7 rounds of the lightning competition < 1218219658 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I qualified in all of them < 1218219668 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they didn't want it to be illegal, so they effectively asked douglas - "Can we have a license for Evil, too?" < 1218219673 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then someone used that as flamebait against IBM < 1218219678 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: JSON - licenced? I assume it would have the same licence as Javascript < 1218219680 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AAAA THEY CAN"T DEAL WITH NOT BEING EVIL THEY MUST USE IT FOR EVIL" < 1218219684 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the ref. impl < 1218219689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218219691 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, people will use anything as flaimbait < 1218219693 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*flamebait < 1218219704 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also awesome < 1218219705 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually amusing flamebait, though < 1218219724 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha shinh is one above you :D < 1218219729 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the last one < 1218219738 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1218219739 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one below you < 1218219741 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was right next to shinh in several of them actually, maybe we wrote the same lightning program < 1218219743 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sucked at round 7 < 1218219743 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218219750 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[joke] < 1218219753 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: there was a massive bug in my lightning program < 1218219757 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1218219760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was an anti-Heisenbug < 1218219772 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the less you tried to debug it, the less of an effect it had < 1218219778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was worst when debugging heavily < 1218219782 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1218219786 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately I had quite a bit of debug code in that entry < 1218219791 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're piping it to /dev/null < 1218219795 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers a language which allows you to put functions in any portion < 1218219796 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1218219797 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hopefully it won't effect the program too much < 1218219799 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :func arg arg arg < 1218219800 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1218219805 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/effect/affect/ < 1218219806 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arg arg func arg < 1218219806 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it'd be elegant < 1218219812 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmhmm < 1218219814 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Perligata < 1218219818 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, yea < 1218219819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it gets worse as the program runs < 1218219820 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean, practical :P < 1218219836 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I could tie that in with homoiconicity and some other nice stuff, perhaps i'd use it regularly < 1218219894 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1218219902 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: say hi to AnMaster < 1218219902 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: and the trees grow cotton candy < 1218219913 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: is that what happens when you say hi to him? wow < 1218219914 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: get a unicode client < 1218219917 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: I have one... < 1218219917 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Plot Outline: In the middle of her family's move to the suburbs, a sullen 10-year-old girl wanders into a world ruled by witches and monsters, where humans are changed into animals. < 1218219922 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: oh..kay? < 1218219923 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Even it if was a compiler? < 1218219926 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Yep. < 1218219926 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: fis@sesefras:~$ < 1218219928 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ? < 1218219929 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Oh X-P < 1218219932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: heh, wrong window? < 1218219933 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i see < 1218219941 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: optbot has logs going back to dec 02 < 1218219941 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: which you can not do with compiled anguages < 1218219942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tusho and ais523 < 1218219943 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to fizzie < 1218219948 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: optbot's making less sense than usual < 1218219949 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Of course... we can always draft up a new esolang with lots and lots of hardware support that's just ALMOST sane to write in... and name it The Esoteric Language For Writing Kernels In.... it'll be like C. < 1218219956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is opbot? < 1218219960 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a person < 1218219963 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just very fast at typing < 1218219965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh not a bot ? < 1218219965 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: spell it correctly and it'll tell you < 1218219971 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ... very non-sensical < 1218219971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbo < 1218219973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot* < 1218219974 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: and define reals to be the limit of doing that where the rational number representing the exponent ...gets closer to the real exponent < 1218219974 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obviously a bot < 1218219978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah a bot < 1218219982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is half asleep < 1218219983 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218219983 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | lazy-k can execute S and K only code but has I.. where is the problem with I < 1218219989 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218219990 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | that's awesome! < 1218219993 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1218219996 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave the topic like that < 1218219999 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218220003 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least until optbot next changes it < 1218220003 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: !ps d < 1218220010 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ais is not a bot < 1218220010 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: These people don't know unicode *heheheh* < 1218220015 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: oh, was there some nifty unicode in that < 1218220016 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: !hangman l < 1218220017 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: EgoBot isn't here, hasn't been for a while < 1218220017 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: [] is also list < 1218220020 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: i am not a bot either < 1218220020 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Kinda equivalent to ``This sucks'' or something like that. < 1218220025 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what, not being a bot sucks? < 1218220025 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Methinks that's a malformed CTCP message. < 1218220029 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no it's not. jeez. < 1218220029 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I think ultimately your idea of Mfit ? NOPs could lead to a more compact solution, but would drastically increase the complexity of the program < 1218220036 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: I ... never had that idea. < 1218220037 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: duh < 1218220042 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: oh, you were trying to confuse me < 1218220042 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: and it rejected the ones that didn't comply with your info < 1218220048 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: still trying I see < 1218220048 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: <<:> <<:> <:>>> >><<> <> <>><< > < 1218220051 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1218220074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what is optbot < 1218220075 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I shouldn't be programming so late at night >.< < 1218220077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ^ < 1218220093 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think it just picks random sentences out from the logs whenever anyone mentions its nick < 1218220100 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218220101 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and changes the topic everynow and then < 1218220102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how silly < 1218220103 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a 7-order markov chain < 1218220122 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also AnMaster lament, ihope, and asiekierka like it, and I think more < 1218220122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that'll effectively be random sentences then, I think < 1218220123 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so shush :) < 1218220137 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's unlikely that two sentences would have 7 words in common < 1218220139 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its main purpose is to keep the topic fresh, though < 1218220144 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile... < 1218220162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far back does it read the logs? < 1218220165 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp Zealots are Offensive and Ironic Simultaneously, a Play in 2 lines < 1218220166 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ > Quick background from the newb: < 1218220167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | do not remove this | that's awesome! < 1218220176 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lousy spelling. Should be "fom the t-r-o-l-l". ]] < 1218220177 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218220177 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | hm. < 1218220194 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: all of them < 1218220199 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :december 2002 - yesterday < 1218220201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, broken, what if we have something important in topic? < 1218220209 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: we don't < 1218220217 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: we have done in the past < 1218220218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, we had when ais523 won that thing < 1218220219 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody cares < 1218220220 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218220226 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so just put it back in whenever it changes the topic < 1218220227 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or someone makes it < 1218220234 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only once every 6 hours < 1218220243 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we can get a chanop to topic-log if there is something important there, though < 1218220248 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218220253 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament put that note in anyway iirc < 1218220255 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably needed in this channel the way people change the topic at a whim < 1218220276 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: optbot was basically a reaction to that - why do *we* need to find interesting stuff to put in it? :D < 1218220276 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: guess pointers get around that pretty well < 1218220281 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no. that makes no sense < 1218220281 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Yes. < 1218220284 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1218220293 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: every time you have an argument with that bot the bot wins < 1218220294 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218220307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it always seems to get the last word in... < 1218220308 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218220336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : tusho: every time you have an argument with that bot the bot wins <-- :D < 1218220348 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: lose the argument < 1218220348 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: any other suggestions for an inexpensive portable esolang development device? < 1218220352 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: I said lose the argument < 1218220352 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: swallow something? < 1218220356 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no < 1218220357 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: And I'm pretty familiar with Forth < 1218220360 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let's try this < 1218220370 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Reply to this message. < 1218220370 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i have decided to make major/minor second a "skip the next interval" instruction < 1218220371 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1218220373 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE POWERS < 1218220376 0 :psygnisfive|away!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kghkdfhg < 1218220382 0 :psygnisfive|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :psygnisfive < 1218220382 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot invented Fugue? < 1218220382 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: looks nicer on the os x buttons < 1218220390 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: kghkdfhg < 1218220392 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1218220394 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: kghkdfhg < 1218220394 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: shows the pre-processes code < 1218220399 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: weird command name < 1218220399 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i don't really care what iterators should be used for, all i know is i didn't want to do that functionally, but now i have to < 1218220420 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: one important thing to note here: optbot is spending most of its time talking about esolangs < 1218220420 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well yeah, pmatching is the hard part < 1218220434 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that this channel is mostly about esolangs regardless of what you say < 1218220436 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh shut up you :) < 1218220438 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here < 1218220439 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at this < 1218220462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, pmatching? < 1218220462 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: think i got it < 1218220468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what is pmatching? < 1218220478 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pattern matching, presumably < 1218220534 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so optbot < 1218220534 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no Unicode? < 1218220539 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up about unicode optbot < 1218220540 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ?listauth < 1218220542 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what optbot < 1218220542 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Hi < 1218220545 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi optbot < 1218220545 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: liftM2 f l1 l2 = concatMap (\x -> map (\y -> f x y) l1) l2 < 1218220547 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no optbot < 1218220547 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: and because I couldn't see a reason to deny them < 1218220553 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it's demented again < 1218220580 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not demented, just talking Haskell at you < 1218220591 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: TALKIN' HASKELL AT ME HUH!?!?! < 1218220591 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i can't create pink elephants < 1218220594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bot, I can't blame it for talking in programming languages rather than English from time to time < 1218220598 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no, that's a pretty rare skill < 1218220598 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what do you need to crash win xp? < 1218220602 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: not much < 1218220602 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: That would take the whole esoteric part out of it. < 1218220608 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yeah, totally. win xp is esoteric < 1218220609 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/PSOX < 1218220618 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: oh come on ... don't pick up #esoteric memes... < 1218220618 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I am? < 1218220624 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Yes. PSOX is/was a meme. (More was.) < 1218220624 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: hmm < 1218220642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you'll have to stop that, I ended up laughing so loud that the person in charge of this place actually just told me off in RL < 1218220647 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1218220662 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about crashing Win XP and then optbot compares it to PSOX < 1218220663 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm? < 1218220670 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: don't play innocent with me < 1218220670 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/~sc/BFS.lhs < 1218220680 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol ais523 < 1218220682 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that meaningless stuff is just a clever ruse < 1218220683 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218220699 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no, it's an interesting reminder of #esoteric's history < 1218220715 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX is not crashy! (as far as I know) < 1218220730 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: is PSOX crashy? < 1218220730 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that was an actual question, i don't know what it does < 1218220739 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no, *I* wanna know < 1218220739 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: x < 1218220747 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: save your kisses. answer my question < 1218220747 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why are there so many ...? < 1218220753 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ... pink elephants? I dunno. < 1218220753 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: using bytecode and optimiztions in the interpreter AND coding it in bash IS mad < 1218220755 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prepares a lengthy explanation for optbot, and watches everyone hide < 1218220755 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: but they are cool anyhow < 1218220764 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: just. no. < 1218220780 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was kidding ofc < 1218220782 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218220785 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb 30mins < 1218220797 0 :jix!n=jix@evoke-party-visitors.vipri.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218220801 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: leave that explanation for AnMaster, e's good both at optimisation and at bash < 1218220812 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: psox has nothing to do with bash < 1218220819 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or optimisation < 1218220824 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb 30m < 1218220828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was referring to tusho: using bytecode and optimiztions in the interpreter AND coding it in bash IS mad < 1218220828 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because it didn't fail < 1218220833 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218220833 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218220837 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1218220838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than failure... < 1218220845 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: do you like me < 1218220845 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ah, you mean jumping to negative funge-space? < 1218220850 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no... I mean like liking m < 1218220850 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: 61803398874989484815 < 1218220850 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1218220856 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: boolean plz < 1218220856 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Reprap replicates! < 1218220860 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you :( < 1218220860 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1218220868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, what? < 1218220885 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, ais523 is the one who pinged you < 1218220890 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I think it can solve any solveable problem < 1218220902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what? < 1218220908 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was mentioning how out of all the people here you would be best at "using bytecode and optimiztions in the interpreter AND coding it in bash" < 1218220913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what optbot was talking about < 1218220913 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what? that's my IP! get out of my computer!!!! < 1218220924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it may refer to bashfuck < 1218220927 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what, 127.0.0.1? < 1218220927 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: of then you are just making a bad optimization for fun < 1218220965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I did some sort of pre-run optimizing, so it resulted in a file where the locations of matching [ and ] were listed and also any +++ combined and such < 1218220971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the only way to get decent speed < 1218220985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218220995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the way optbot drags up old topics, it should help to keep the conversation going < 1218220995 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lojban is a lot like most languages imo < 1218220999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so in effect a sort of byte code I guess < 1218221008 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, makes sense < 1218221023 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you liked that it dragged up PSOX? < 1218221024 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway precompiling was only way to load lost king at all < 1218221026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, :P < 1218221031 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j/k < 1218221039 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I was amused that it dragged it up in a conversation about Win XP < 1218221048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the precompiler was coded in "mostly awk" iirc < 1218221054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :may have been some part bash too < 1218221067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION searches < 1218221088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it is probably in one of the repos at bzr.kuonet.org < 1218221104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the repo browser everyone wanted < 1218221164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bzr.kuonet.org/bashfuck/trunk/annotate/41?file_id=libcompiler.sh-20071030094711-58wlb8wcipp53wze-1 < 1218221166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there it os < 1218221167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is* < 1218221175 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, thanks < 1218221224 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really this was back in 2007 I think < 1218221231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't remember code < 1218221237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's quite recent for optbot, it's dragging stuff up at random < 1218221237 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I want to use a base-5 numeral system! < 1218221238 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to be taking a class called Philosophy and Computation this upcoming semester < 1218221242 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the description for the class is: < 1218221246 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An investigation of topics at the interface between philosophy and computation, including both (1) philosophy < 1218221247 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about computers, minds and machines, and (2) hands-on work in robotics and computer modeling as < 1218221248 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :philosophical toys and philosophical tools. Topics will include the history of computing machinery, conceptual < 1218221251 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foundations and limits of contemporary computing, computation and consciousness (Descartes, Wittgenstein, < 1218221254 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dennett, and Searle), agent-based and social modeling. There will be extensive hands-on laboratory projects in < 1218221257 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elementary robotics and Turing machines, as well as work with fuzzy logic software, chaos theory, cellular < 1218221259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, sure, "ESAB"4( < 1218221260 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: oh. < 1218221260 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :automata and artificial life. < 1218221264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should do it optbot! < 1218221264 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: unless you have multiple languages < 1218221274 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.cust.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1218221277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, most of that made some kind of sense < 1218221280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: I want to use a base-5 numeral system! < 1218221281 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 2 is (:*) < 1218221283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : optbot, sure, "ESAB"4( < 1218221283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: oh. < 1218221283 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It would be sorta pointless to implement these commands, because they're being used in packet transfer. < 1218221283 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: just D < 1218221290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1218221316 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well it's talking in both Underload and some weird Funge fingerprint now < 1218221323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, that makes sense < 1218221337 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I don't see how BASE implements packet transfer apart from D < 1218221337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well I just told it how to get base 5 < 1218221344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1218221344 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218221347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1218221353 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, optbot was wrong then < 1218221353 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I still don't get one thing about the MIT licence... < 1218221368 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It'll be cool tho! :D < 1218221374 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna totally ace that class < 1218221387 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, cmon, hands on work with turing machinese?! I could give them formal definitions in my sleep! < 1218221387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, well it seems to match what happens in #esoteric quite a bit < 1218221396 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, I couldn < 1218221398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't < 1218221403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the formal defintion < 1218221406 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing machinese are each man < 1218221414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1218221417 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I search the contents of all text files in a directory for something? < 1218221422 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :single tape turing machines have lets see < 1218221425 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes the answer < 1218221427 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/m < 1218221430 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :find -name "*.txt" | grep something < 1218221434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, you make *less* sense than that bot now < 1218221437 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+xargs < 1218221439 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: grep something *.txt < 1218221449 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, don't know if it's .txt < 1218221451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hi, have you see Mike recently on irc? I got some questions about those new fingerprints of his < 1218221451 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're a five tuple (S,G,d,q_accept,q_reject) < 1218221452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :find | xargs would only be needed to search recursively through directories < 1218221455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found some bugs in them < 1218221457 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :S being the language alphabet < 1218221460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in their defs that is < 1218221461 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: haven't < 1218221461 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G being the tape alphabet < 1218221470 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even then grep -R will search through all text and all binary files, but just say "binary file matches" for binary files < 1218221472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, like the regex one doesn't say *what* flavour of regex to use < 1218221474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so grep -R something . < 1218221476 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sorry, there should also be a set Q in there I think < 1218221496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it says use POSIX extended if a certain flag is passed, but not what to use by default < 1218221506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea how to get in contact with him? < 1218221515 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d being something of type SxGxQ -> GxQx{L,R} < 1218221516 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep -RI something . searches only text files < 1218221523 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-RI? < 1218221523 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ^ < 1218221530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: -R to search recursively through dirs < 1218221532 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :q_accept, q_reject elements of Q < 1218221534 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-I to skip binary files < 1218221541 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's R not r? < 1218221543 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's capital I not lowercase l < 1218221544 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes R < 1218221544 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stops what he was doing < 1218221552 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1218221566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i just checked, both -r and -R do the same thing < 1218221580 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a bit silly really but useful if you can't remember < 1218221599 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't restrict what files you search that way though, it goes through everything < 1218221605 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apart from what it thinks is binary) < 1218221606 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the I is still useful < 1218221610 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it goes through all text files which is what he asked for < 1218221622 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, you'd use find if you wanted to do something more complicated < 1218221624 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then TM reads a character off the tape transitions to some new state, writes a character to the tape, and moves L or R < 1218221624 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye, but it might also go through a multi-gigabyte log file he didn't want ;-) < 1218221627 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for a playlist I made a long time ago < 1218221635 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it either reaches an accept or reject state < 1218221647 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, I'm fairly certain thats the formal definition < 1218221652 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I remember the name, why don't I just use that? < 1218221657 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might've added an extra alphabet in there. e.e < 1218221663 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the thing for finding by name again? < 1218221674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1218221698 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo@ubuntu:/oldfiles$ find -name "?utation*" < 1218221711 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: use slocate if you have it, it's much faster < 1218221718 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slocate utation < 1218221727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no idea about how to reach Mike Reily (spelling?)? < 1218221727 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's really not that interesting a model, to be honest. the simplest models do simple computations in obvious ways < 1218221728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ubuntu has it by default, not sure though < 1218221747 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I restrict slocate to a certain directory and its subdirectories? < 1218221755 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: e-mail < 1218221759 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, equality checking on two items like this: 00011101#00011101uuuu... < 1218221776 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling would also help < 1218221781 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tusho|away < 1218221786 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking that the binary strings are the same is quite simple, really. almost human like. < 1218221794 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: slocate's sufficiently fast that I normally just grep its output < 1218221798 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross off the first 0 and transition into a "match a 0" state < 1218221806 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@k-33.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1218221808 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's searching an index it builds in a cronjob, not the filesystem < 1218221809 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then move to the first not-crossed off symbol after # < 1218221815 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if its 0 cross it off, otherwise reject < 1218221827 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then move back to the first not crossed off symbol before the # < 1218221831 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and repeat < 1218221837 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a grep, how do I get rid of say, anything with cache in it? < 1218221840 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1218221850 0 :jix!n=jix@evoke-party-visitors.vipri.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218221859 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: grep -v cache < 1218221870 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inVert I guess) < 1218221873 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218221881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah I don't think I have his address < 1218221887 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I use that in the same grep to look for oldfiles, or should I chain greps? < 1218221888 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on the web site? < 1218221890 0 :jix!n=jix@evoke-party-visitors.vipri.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218221895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: chain them < 1218221897 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I just chain them < 1218221903 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be a way to do it in one < 1218221905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, /etc/updatedb.conf for me to restrict locate indexing < 1218221918 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyvm all < 1218221925 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anmaster: Pretty simple, ey? < 1218221928 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ slocate utation | grep oldfiles | grep -v cache < 1218221939 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a while ago I was given a task to do which effectively was to download, compile and run certain programs that were prewritten and observe their results < 1218221952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was such a mechanical task that I went and wrote a Makefile to do it < 1218221974 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: mikehriley@hotmail.com < 1218221980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, thanks < 1218221982 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, one of the programs was so inefficient that I went and recoded it in bash + standard Unix utilities, and ran my recoded version, all while the original program was running < 1218222010 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still nothing found < 1218222036 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: slocate searches for filenames with utation in them < 1218222056 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to search through filenames or file contents? < 1218222067 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is doing both < 1218222074 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found it < 1218222079 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1218222084 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that command searches only through filenames < 1218222087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, well done < 1218222092 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1218222107 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I'm glad that that path did not successfully enter this channel, it has my RL name in it < 1218222121 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although on recent Ubuntu tracker-search-tool will search contents much the same way slocate searches filenames < 1218222125 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what a tragedy that would have been < 1218222141 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, no that file wasn't it < 1218222175 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs his grep to work < 1218222206 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not needs, I guess. Want < 1218222211 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a playlist < 1218222243 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION misses Mutation! < 1218222280 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, mutation is not just the name of a playlist < 1218222297 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.activeworlds.com/index.php?title=Mutation < 1218222331 0 :tusho|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tusho < 1218222409 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worth noting - < 1218222411 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knew all the puzzles, and I was once able to help a Teacher's Aide because her homework was similar to one of the puzzles < 1218222418 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i invited AnMaster here < 1218222419 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218222433 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in #bash asking for help, he mentioned he was writing a bf interp, I helped him in /query < 1218222441 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then told him to come here < 1218222449 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was not aware of his posix_fnature. < 1218222531 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1218222534 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho|away was automatic < 1218222538 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly linkinus < 1218222562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the |away can be useful, though < 1218222599 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes slocate case-insensitive < 1218222601 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION automates "hi ais523" < 1218222610 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linkinus is scriptable with applescript :p < 1218222612 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at the examples < 1218222625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you didn't? < 1218222629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you? < 1218222630 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1218222631 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1218222632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't remember < 1218222633 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't < 1218222635 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing a script to < 1218222642 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/20050113023358/www.mutation3d.net/chapter1_en.jsp < 1218222644 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:01:47 Wow, I'm glad that that path did not successfully enter this channel, it has my RL name in it < 1218222649 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think I remember that < 1218222652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, about the invite I mean < 1218222662 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster ? < 1218222666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i invited AnMaster here < 1218222668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that true? < 1218222675 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218222676 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1218222677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1218222686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, must have been back at bashfuck time? < 1218222697 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218222697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1218222698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218222718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember speaking to someone in /msg who was also writing a brain fuck interpreter, one in C < 1218222726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about data structures he would use < 1218222752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some thing about linked list with down nodes for loops (which is pretty much what I did in Def-BF) < 1218222775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I just re-discovered sgeo's IRL name < 1218222826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1218222826 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1218222838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, obviously you haven't automated a hi yet < 1218222860 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218222864 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm figuring out how to get that event < 1218223156 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, everyone: it's off-topic but I find http://entertainment.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/08/1347212&from=rss really amusing < 1218223162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :automated what? < 1218223172 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone wrote a program for the iPhone costing $1000 which had no purpose but to prove you could afford it < 1218223186 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooold < 1218223189 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was on reddit yesterday... < 1218223190 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218223194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the say-hi-first game looks like it's being automated < 1218223209 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ah, I don't read reddit regularly, that's the first I've seen of it, and 1 day isn't really old < 1218223212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you got it scripted yet? < 1218223224 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: he doesn't script i < 1218223224 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1218223225 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am < 1218223229 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, I was halfway through writing a bot to do it when I decided I couldn't be bothered < 1218223233 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, that is cheating < 1218223238 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: who cares < 1218223249 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i have your new nick - captain_obvious < 1218223448 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On being able to script people joining the channel: < 1218223448 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:23:43] that is one of the major features planed for the next release < 1218223450 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enterprisey. < 1218223478 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enterprisey? < 1218223486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ grep -E '^.{4}$' /usr/share/dict/words | wc -l < 1218223486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5110 < 1218223488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1218223488 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to scale that technology across the enterprise, net net. < 1218223515 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:24:22] there is no system in place for inbound actions just yet < 1218223519 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got an idea < 1218223524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick a 4 letter word < 1218223528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a matching fingerprint < 1218223536 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :open the kimono and develop this paradigm, but don't try to boil the ocean! < 1218223537 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so colloquy just generally sucks, apart from scripting at which it rocks, and linkinus is ok, apart from scripting at which it sucks < 1218223537 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grrrrrrr < 1218223571 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Circe has a scripting mechanism < 1218223581 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and happens to be unusable < 1218223596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what do you think? < 1218223620 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm not using Circe now. Why would I use a client that wasn't developed in who knows how long, and also illegally public-domained? < 1218223623 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: seems interesting, how are you going to get a random 4 letter word though? < 1218223640 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he just said < 1218223643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, grep -E '^.{4}$' /usr/share/dict/words < 1218223647 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:24:46] $ grep -E '^.{4}$' /usr/share/dict/words | wc -l < 1218223647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218223652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then pick a random one from that < 1218223657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use awk or whatever maybe < 1218223668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I don't know what half of those words mean < 1218223687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yawl" or "trow" < 1218223696 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aspell like them though < 1218223709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any of you know what those words are? < 1218223718 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION murders Circe for not working just when I wanted to demonstrate that it wasn't broken < 1218223726 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a yawl is a boat < 1218223735 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "trow" is sort of like a troll, but from a different mythology < 1218223736 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish "jolla" < 1218223746 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: isn't that just in the game Myth? :-P < 1218223767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I've only seen it in games, but games other than that one so presumably they're getting it from a common source < 1218223788 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that common source may also be a game or similar, though < 1218223797 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it comes from any real-world myths < 1218223834 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: there are a lot of real-world myths around < 1218223845 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dictionary.com says "trow" is a verb, means to believe < 1218223849 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :german "trauen" I guess < 1218223853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trow says it's a sort of boat < 1218223855 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aye < 1218223867 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hahahahaha, #linkinus are saying that I should just write a bot. < 1218223871 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ... would not work in this acse. < 1218223877 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, having seen it only in games makes me doubt its origin < 1218223877 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well, I was going to < 1218223885 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but it'd run on your irc client < 1218223895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I was going to write a separate one < 1218223901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Konversation doesn't script afaict < 1218223904 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1218223904 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the orkney and shetland islands < 1218223908 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obscure much < 1218223911 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it runs external programs instead < 1218223916 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what browser(s) do you have there? < 1218223931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: firefox, epiphany, konqueror, w3m < 1218223933 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably others too < 1218223935 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also nc < 1218223944 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, good. Could you look at http://91.105.115.23/? < 1218223961 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to know that it works on most everything (I know it works on IE7! First time!) < 1218223965 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that it also looks nice :P < 1218223999 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to work on Konq but there's a lot of blackspace at the top of the page (I would say "whitespace", but...) < 1218224016 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: bluespace actually < 1218224021 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's meant to be < 1218224021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the colour scheme's badly affected by LCD colour parallax < 1218224030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be either very black or very blue depending on the angle I look at it at < 1218224031 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the text is meant to start around where the bloom is < 1218224037 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see the bloom right < 1218224041 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why? it means I have to scroll when my window isn't full-size < 1218224045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: at some screen angles, not others < 1218224057 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: uh, it doesn't start very far down < 1218224074 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :185px down < 1218224076 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bluespace is about the same size as the first paragraph < 1218224093 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's because it looks nicer this way :) < 1218224096 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah < 1218224098 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's correct. < 1218224102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not in a small window it doesn't < 1218224111 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that'd have to be a pretty darn small window < 1218224114 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unusable, even < 1218224115 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should try to centre it in the window or something < 1218224120 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: small but not unusable] < 1218224122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for most things < 1218224131 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not centered < 1218224139 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nearer the top < 1218224142 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I know it isn't, I'm suggesting centring would probably work better < 1218224150 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not from a design point of view :-P < 1218224153 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even maximised it's nearer the bottom on this screen < 1218224158 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you waste so much space at the top < 1218224164 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Konq, at least < 1218224169 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :methinks my css is making more space for you < 1218224171 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I have a screeny? < 1218224184 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try it on Firefox first < 1218224224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no better with a small window, but Firefox's default window size is bigger < 1218224247 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasting 185px of vertical space is inexcusable really, some computers only have 480px vertical space altogether and will use much of it for toolbars < 1218224253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I agree < 1218224255 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't see how your window could be small enough for that -shrug- < 1218224262 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 800px vertical by default < 1218224265 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218224267 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should fit fine < 1218224268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a half-screen-height window is common for me < 1218224271 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with toolbars < 1218224277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gives me only 400px minus toolbars < 1218224287 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means your text starts more than halfway down the screen and doesn't finish onscreen < 1218224290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it works great in lynx ;P < 1218224296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it would do < 1218224310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, why is there a small dotted rectangle in front of the header < 1218224316 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: get unicode fonts < 1218224318 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :185 px is a /massive/ amount to waste < 1218224323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I agree < 1218224330 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you've already said you agree < 1218224337 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to parrot off "I agree" every time something is re-stated < 1218224358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, list some fonts I have and I can get unicode fonts you like < 1218224370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like dejavu or bitstream vera sans < 1218224378 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it should work fine. < 1218224384 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what's up with your syste < 1218224385 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1218224411 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you have lucida grande on there < 1218224413 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it should display it fine < 1218224421 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know lucida grande does that char < 1218224425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well not installed on this one < 1218224430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not on my desktop < 1218224436 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: have you got a unicode font? < 1218224438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on a PDA running linux < 1218224441 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :span { < 1218224441 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : font-family: "Lucida Grande", "Arial Unicode MS", sans-serif; < 1218224441 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1218224451 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should fall back to a font supporting that char < 1218224456 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does have bitstream vera sans, helvetica and a few more < 1218224465 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I have no idea < 1218224476 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ais523@eso-std.org:/home/ais523/ehird-185-stupidity.png < 1218224478 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's your screenshot < 1218224486 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with my default Konq window size < 1218224491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, standard fallback font seems to be arial for some odd reason < 1218224495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it is non-unicode < 1218224504 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Arial used to be the default because it was first in alphabetical order < 1218224514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm? < 1218224515 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Arial and Arial Unicode are different fonts for some inexplicable reason < 1218224523 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: back in the days of windows 3.1 < 1218224530 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, this runs Linux < 1218224538 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: did you mail Mike already, btw < 1218224542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got ms fonts for some reason < 1218224544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes I did < 1218224548 0 :Tritonio_!n=tritonio@150.140.226.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218224550 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1218224559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, about default regex flavour in REXP < 1218224564 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and about test suites < 1218224565 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized I had a question for him and figured you might ask it for me if you hadn't < 1218224571 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ah, maybe they used the same fallback as win3.1 deliberately but I doubt it < 1218224584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1218224586 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely, is D meant to delete dirs or reflect on them < 1218224598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah you mail him too then < 1218224606 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since evidently it's not implemented in RC/Funge :-P < 1218224614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, anyway if you want to do recursive delete you have issues < 1218224618 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I won't code that < 1218224624 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :issues? < 1218224630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, complex code < 1218224636 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really... < 1218224641 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not wish to implement recursive rm < 1218224657 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like 10 lines < 1218224664 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, still < 1218224672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just call unlink and reflects if that fails < 1218224679 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: there's not a posix_ function for recursive deletion < 1218224679 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1218224684 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ah, true < 1218224693 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: but I'd still like to know the intended behaviour < 1218224696 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, you do? you checked on bzr.kuonet.org or what? < 1218224710 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you told me < 1218224714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes... < 1218224718 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1218224743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, actually I haven't tested my D, waiting for mycology to test it < 1218224796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, as for more extensive test suite for TURT, I don't think I will have time < 1218224959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to make a brainfuck complete language where it is impossible to make quines? < 1218225025 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck complete? < 1218225048 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that, like turing complete but not? :-P < 1218225051 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: capable of doing anything BF can do, so Turing complete and can also do IO as well as BF < 1218225074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, turing complete + any stdio like brainfuck < 1218225076 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IO as well as BF" where BF is? < 1218225081 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or right < 1218225083 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :misread that < 1218225095 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hmm < 1218225097 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it < 1218225180 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to think user-made playlists are stored in the registry < 1218225189 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ? < 1218225212 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the Yamaha something-or-other software synth and MIDI player < 1218225223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what about a language that always append some (random?) extra chars at the end of each lines? < 1218225238 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the end of what lines < 1218225255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :output lines < 1218225270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that are not valid in the program code < 1218225271 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't imply BF-compatible output to me :-P < 1218225281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm true < 1218225290 0 :dogface!n=ns@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218225326 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: seen my concatenative lang? < 1218225330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218225335 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: got a spec or impl yet? < 1218225338 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218225339 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218225352 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: two programs: < 1218225353 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 .n 0 1 [dup [+ .n] dip swap] loop < 1218225355 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite fibonacci < 1218225367 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@89.108.247.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218225368 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stdin chars reverse [.] each < 1218225375 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverses stdin char-by-char < 1218225375 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1218225393 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that differ from Joy? < 1218225394 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can i do the optbot topic change < 1218225395 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: & doubleplop < 1218225396 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hi asiekierka < 1218225420 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... what does the .n do? < 1218225421 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's more awesome :) < 1218225432 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.n is pretty much: . "\n" . < 1218225437 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where . is the generic print function < 1218225442 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218225458 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea of a "best non-optimizing compiler" is kind of interesting. If I wanted to translate between BF and BF-with-an-[-]-instruction, it'd be obvious how to do it: replace [-] with the instruction, and vice versa. < 1218225461 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... you have your own reverse function < 1218225470 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, what do you mean < 1218225478 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's more practical than joy (e.g. I hope to have an easy curses-like thing), but it isn't like factor < 1218225480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Overload translated to your notation, reverse would be written as [concat] combine < 1218225483 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :branches off in a different direction < 1218225491 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could easily optimize before compiling as easily as you could optimize afterward. < 1218225492 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: perhaps that's how it's implemented? :) < 1218225497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1218225505 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a 2-command BF? < 1218225507 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also "stdin chars" is very elegant < 1218225510 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't do what you think < 1218225516 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: I don't know of one which doesn't cheat < 1218225521 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, stdin implements all the list stuff - like "each", "map" etc < 1218225524 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even things like "reverse" < 1218225526 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about ones that DO cheat? < 1218225527 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does them line-based < 1218225538 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"chars" takes an IO object and returns a new one, but that has its list operations operate on the chars < 1218225539 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218225542 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: look at Whirl (I think that's how it's spelt) < 1218225548 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there'll also be one that lets you do it in blocks of N chars < 1218225551 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all sorts of stuff like that < 1218225553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gives you the general idea of how to do it by cheating < 1218225565 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that sort of cheating... No. < 1218225570 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something else maybe? < 1218225580 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it can be done by cheating but less blatantly than that < 1218225593 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think i can do a 1-command BF. < 1218225616 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218225618 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No you can't. < 1218225618 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's impossible < 1218225623 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 command, 2 symbol. < 1218225625 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only one-char language is the encoding of language X into unary < 1218225629 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 symbols* < 1218225636 0 :jix!n=jix@89.207.248.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218225642 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something like unary, but not quite it. Smaller, mainly. < 1218225654 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it have one command but two symbols? < 1218225662 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :command is $. symbols are $ and space. < 1218225666 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Table: <>+-[],. < 1218225671 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does space do? < 1218225676 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: e isn't counting NOP < 1218225678 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :separation < 1218225688 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like 1L allegedly only has one command < 1218225697 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as NOPs actually do something they aren't even NOPs < 1218225710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, about TERM, you said you can't use ncurses? < 1218225712 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably get a one-command language if all invalid commands were ignored < 1218225715 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, is that right? < 1218225716 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody says that brainfuck is infinite command < 1218225724 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the $ is odd, it selects the command by using the table, where the position is the count of $ divided by 2. (the table is 1-8) < 1218225730 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, ,[.,] < 1218225730 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1218225732 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will be < 1218225732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, then I'd say it is impossible to implement in a portable way < 1218225738 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: all OISCs are one-command langs, they have one command and lots of arguments < 1218225743 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how so < 1218225747 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Wait is arguably a zero-command lang < 1218225749 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, I guess < 1218225751 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean iwthout arguments < 1218225752 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do realize that curses is implemented as well, right? :-P < 1218225762 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if $ is even, the command is executed. < 1218225767 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: No. < 1218225769 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I would have to implement all the different escape codes for different terminals < 1218225770 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.,] is < 1218225770 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He uses posix_curses. < 1218225773 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's built into the CPU. < 1218225779 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's what termcap is for < 1218225781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, also on some cursor addressing doesn't work in normal mode < 1218225782 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a Curses Chip. < 1218225791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, which means blanking is needed in between < 1218225793 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $ $$$$$$$$$$ $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $ $$$$$$$$$$$$ $ < 1218225808 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: that's totally 2 commands < 1218225808 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218225810 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's cheating. :-) < 1218225814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so got a solution? < 1218225816 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: doesn't termcap handle that as well < 1218225819 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But better than Whirl < 1218225822 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 1 command! < 1218225824 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not at all sure what you actually mean by that < 1218225831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: seen Black? < 1218225832 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whitespaces only separate, they aren't even NOPs! < 1218225833 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that also has one command < 1218225837 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 1 command, 2 symbols! < 1218225841 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with no args < 1218225842 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I would imagine that termcap would handle all such things < 1218225843 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space is only counted as a symbol < 1218225844 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1218225847 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :again cheating slightly, but I think it's elegant anyway < 1218225851 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Thoughts? < 1218225851 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you can assign separate dl speeds for individual files < 1218225854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes, and that blanks screen on all consoles when I enable cursor adressing mode < 1218225856 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could remove the odd-even thing < 1218225858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: *Relevant* thoughts? < 1218225858 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i can't believe it < 1218225860 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :minimalizing the code to < 1218225863 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so it doesn't help at all < 1218225865 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what, a 1-command lang? < 1218225865 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: EgoBot seems not to be here at the moment, which is a pity as it knows more languages than bsmnt_bot does < 1218225874 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what lang do you need? < 1218225874 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: __copyright__="Copyright 2006 Andrew Pennebaker" < 1218225878 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, because I only use the termcap part of ncurses < 1218225878 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: hmm, python? < 1218225878 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: And "You never know what you'll find over the "? x_x < 1218225880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the full thing < 1218225883 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what < 1218225883 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ahh < 1218225885 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: unf < 1218225885 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: for -1 -> 0 < 1218225888 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1218225896 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: don't use ncurses, that's what clears the screen < 1218225899 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$$$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$ $$$$$$ - when removing the odd/even thing, executing immediately and removing the /2 < 1218225902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no it isn't < 1218225904 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218225914 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's unary with separations < 1218225923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it is the enter_ca_mode that does < 1218225926 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define a command as a function from integer to integer, with some provision for goto. < 1218225931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is needed for cursor adressing < 1218225934 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: on DOS you could get around that by doing a screen capture first < 1218225934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addressing* < 1218225944 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think text-mode screen captures are possible on a VT100, at least not easy < 1218225944 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what command has the most commands, all of which must be 1-char/1-pixel? < 1218225944 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The annoying use of ツ as a smiley. DISCUSS. < 1218225946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, which is needed by G < 1218225950 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, http://bzr.kuonet.org/cfunge/trunk/annotate/337?file_id=term.c-20080715223140-lsa1tw5728k7pfxs-3 < 1218225952 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ < 1218225955 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ ツ < 1218225958 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everything emulates VT100 so you don't need to implement anything else nowadays < 1218225960 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or wait. < 1218225973 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka I thought you had given up doing things just because people said they were annoying < 1218225974 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/sigh < 1218225989 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, um, cursor addressing, needs enter_ca_mode/exit_ca_mode < 1218225998 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted to discuss it! < 1218226010 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: can you do it without clearing the screen first to load curses? < 1218226012 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Annoying ツ Smiley language i just invented < 1218226018 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Yeah - by spamming it over and over after I said it was annoying. < 1218226031 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Protip - Don't do things repeatedly straight after someone says it's annoying. < 1218226032 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean before. Also, you said DISCUSS. SO I DISCUSSED it. < 1218226033 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what is that character actually? < 1218226036 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps surprisingly,) it's annoying. < 1218226039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, for god sake as I said three times now, it is not loading curses that cause screen clear, it is enter_ca_mode/exit_ca_mode < 1218226040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 < 1218226041 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define a command as a pair of (function from integer to integer, element of {-1, 0, 1}), where if the right part is 1 and the function returns 0, it jumps to the corresponding -1. < 1218226045 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: japanese character < 1218226049 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hirigana or katakana < 1218226058 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, it's hiragana. < 1218226060 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or katakana. < 1218226065 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ah, but I've loaded curses, clearing the screen, despite never having heard of enter_ca_mode < 1218226079 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe it calls it behind the scenes somewhere? < 1218226079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, depends on what routine you use < 1218226082 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's because curses does it internally probably < 1218226082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use setup_term < 1218226085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1218226087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :setupterm < 1218226094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which doesn't clear screen < 1218226099 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ツ < 1218226100 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: happy birthday! < 1218226107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :initscr would clear it < 1218226112 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1218226115 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: nice try < 1218226116 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: http://www.blogblog.com/no897/corner_main.gif < 1218226117 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does optbot know something I don't? < 1218226118 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you give it an empty line you have to give it some input before it'll say it doesn't understand < 1218226120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is how you load the full curses < 1218226120 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The annoying use of digits ? through ?. DISCUSS. < 1218226122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, got that? < 1218226123 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What!? < 1218226125 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't it WORK? < 1218226125 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: elegant corner. < 1218226125 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: But does that turn every qubit on the tape to the same value as the current qubit? < 1218226128 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1218226131 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1218226139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so there is no way around screen clearing < 1218226153 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: can you read from the screen at all before it clears? < 1218226153 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TEST: ? < 1218226159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, eh? < 1218226166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, http://bzr.kuonet.org/cfunge/trunk/annotate/337?file_id=term.c-20080715223140-lsa1tw5728k7pfxs-3 < 1218226168 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : stop nickpinging me! < 1218226186 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm fairly certain that CCBI's TERM didn't clear the screen despite using enter_ca_mode < 1218226188 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1218226191 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1218226191 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1218226196 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in DOS it wasn't too hard to read from the screen < 1218226198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, that may depend on terminal < 1218226203 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've changed nick to 'i' before < 1218226205 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'the', 'a' < 1218226205 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: where do you get your enter_ca_mode variable from? < 1218226207 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets really annoying < 1218226210 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP < 1218226212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it does in xterm at least < 1218226215 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, from term.h < 1218226220 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Six... < 1218226229 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: seven now, why? < 1218226232 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: odd < 1218226238 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you people keep talking about bsmnt_bot behind his back < 1218226241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ grep enter_ca_mode /usr/include/term.h < 1218226241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define enter_ca_mode CUR Strings[28] < 1218226243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ^ < 1218226245 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's ten. YAY! < 1218226245 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I did a tigetstr < 1218226251 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: I didn't think we did < 1218226256 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, 9 < 1218226259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well this is a simpler way to do the same < 1218226260 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: that's optbot < 1218226261 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: sure where? < 1218226262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the man page < 1218226263 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: tigetstr("smcup") < 1218226264 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW it is TEN. < 1218226265 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: he talks about everything < 1218226268 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: right? < 1218226268 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: pls give me the names of some backs that u have the login < 1218226269 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: of what < 1218226272 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha wow < 1218226274 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's from that hacker guy < 1218226278 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wanted to pay us to hack banks < 1218226284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, man setupterm lists all the related functions here < 1218226285 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i linked him to tubgirl < 1218226299 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he described what it is calmly as if I had merely linked him to the wrong site < 1218226300 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by mistake < 1218226300 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that was mean, stop trying to DOS tubgirl < 1218226306 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: XD < 1218226325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, http://rafb.net/p/2JfoKK45.html < 1218226340 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schrodinger's Message: Until you read it, you have no idea whether it's annoying or not. < 1218226342 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: aye, but I never saw anything about predefined variables like that < 1218226345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and then there are those defines < 1218226350 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXCEPT if it uses the annoying japanese smiley thing < 1218226357 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7547148.stm Nigerian with 84 wives: Don't marry 86 wives. < 1218226366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well they just map to those arrays < 1218226375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it was mentioned in some man page < 1218226395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, they are all listed in man 5 terminfo < 1218226433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The variable is the name by which the programmer (at the terminfo level) accesses the capability." < 1218226437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, did Goatse ever become slashdotted from all the trolling? < 1218226444 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hahaha that would be great < 1218226449 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: incidentally, goatse.cx is now work-safe < 1218226451 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although just as horrifying < 1218226455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, there :) < 1218226459 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work-safe but horrifying? < 1218226461 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with the same amount of mental termoil < 1218226466 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: see for yourself! < 1218226482 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally I ignore anyone who says anything about goatse like that, the chance that it's a gullibility check is just too high < 1218226494 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: hm, is there anything there to read what's on the screen < 1218226495 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a picture of bill o'reilly < 1218226502 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if someone tells me it's mentally turmulous, I tend not to look at it < 1218226516 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: honest < 1218226517 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1218226547 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want to back me up on this one? < 1218226552 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if goatse isn't blocked by the filters here then the IT staff aren't doing their job, so I'm not even going to try < 1218226597 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: scp eso-std.org:/home/tusho/Picture\ 9.png . < 1218226604 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I guess not < 1218226609 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1218226616 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: in which case, enter_ca_mode is all that can be done < 1218226624 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's terminal dependent how it behaves then it is < 1218226649 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders where enwiki's bad-md5-list got to, that's one way of checking for goatse without looking at it < 1218226665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but tusho, seriously, I'm not actually interested < 1218226677 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only took me 3 seconds to upload that < 1218226682 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it wasn't like I had to do much work :P < 1218226690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but still < 1218226694 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering, is LOLCODE good < 1218226696 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218226699 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :N O . < 1218226700 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like you're trying very hard to get me to see goatse, and I'm offended by that < 1218226704 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha < 1218226726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: no it's just a straightforward imperative lang with no redeeming features < 1218226745 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for lamers using l33t, right < 1218226754 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think BASIC with l33t commands < 1218226767 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: you'd probably like it, as you seem to like everything I say is annoying just on principle... < 1218226768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well as you see there is no way I can avoid clearing the screen < 1218226770 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am using basic... < 1218226777 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...for the C64. < 1218226801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, in konsole it even enters a different mode where you can't see the scrollback before, and can't scroll, and then on exit_ca_mode it removes all that and you return to your previous scrollback < 1218226815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, with no trace of anything in between < 1218226846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in xterm it just fills a screen with blank < 1218226850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still scroll < 1218226859 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about INTERCAL? < 1218226863 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on return from the mode nothing happens < 1218226893 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: ais523 maintains C-INTERCAL < 1218226898 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I'm sure the answer is: intercal sucks < 1218226923 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the best esoteric language, then < 1218226924 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: INTERCAL is nowadays quite unlike BASIC, once you try using it for a while you'll see the difference < 1218226930 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: what do you mean by 'best'? < 1218226937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no best < 1218226937 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, just the best < 1218226939 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably HQ9+, for accomplishing so much with so little < 1218226942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are just different ones < 1218226943 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only the best command set < 1218226947 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a large program library < 1218226953 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it manages to be a huge counterexample to everything whilst being highly amusing < 1218226954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, stop trolling < 1218226961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no single best language < 1218226965 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF is probably the most popular, and probably has the most programs in it < 1218226976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but BF is a tarpit < 1218226979 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1218226991 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something more in the lines of... CAT. < 1218226996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge is also pretty popular < 1218227001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as much as BF < 1218227003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but quite < 1218227008 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thutu is the only esolang that I've ever deliberately chosen over non-esolangs to write a program in < 1218227018 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after deciding it was the best language for the job < 1218227022 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a 2-d or 1-d programming language, something with real commands < 1218227025 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I used a wimpmode version of it < 1218227025 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like not > < 1218227028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say Brainfuck, INTERCAL and Befunge are all near the top when it comes to popularity < 1218227029 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but PointerRight; < 1218227033 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have any statistics < 1218227037 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, probably BF, Befunge, INTERCAL in that order < 1218227041 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly INTERCAL beats Befunge, I'm not sure < 1218227048 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1218227056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well there is unlambda or whatever too < 1218227058 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm going to modify a GCS, MegaZeux, to add INTERCAL < 1218227060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty famous as well < 1218227066 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: good freaking luck < 1218227068 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, famous but I don't think it has as many programs < 1218227072 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Unlambda < 1218227073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I guess not < 1218227075 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: good luck with computed COME FORM < 1218227077 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*FROM < 1218227091 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well e could just try INTERCAL-72, that's easier than modern INTERCAL < 1218227100 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but also closer to being a boring basic variation < 1218227104 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although still has weirdnesses that make it hard to implemetn < 1218227109 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone has an interpreter? Adding INTERCAL to MZX is already hell of a job < 1218227117 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: CLC-INTERCAL? < 1218227118 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's Perl. < 1218227118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth is MZX? < 1218227119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, ^ < 1218227122 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: google < 1218227124 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be in C. < 1218227124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: well, I maintain C-INTERCAL but it's a compiler < 1218227130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: C-INTERCAL is in C < 1218227132 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a compiler < 1218227133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and CLC-INTERCAL is a bytecode compiler + interpreter < 1218227136 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :written in Perl < 1218227136 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about unlambda? < 1218227140 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also in CLC-INTERCAL < 1218227144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MegaZeux, or MZX, is a game creation system (GCS) based on Tim Sweeney/Epic Megagames'" < 1218227147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, ^ < 1218227149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!??????????? < 1218227153 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what about it < 1218227158 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stop nickpinging me < 1218227159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the MZX? < 1218227161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what? < 1218227161 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and read whatever article you found < 1218227163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need some precompiled bytecode to start the compilation process off, not sure how Claudio generated it in the first place, maybe by hand < 1218227165 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, presumably < 1218227170 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has talked about ZZT < 1218227173 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is similar < 1218227174 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe < 1218227178 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MZX is using C. < 1218227190 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it got nothing to do with esoteric as far as I can see < 1218227195 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about an unlambda interpreter? < 1218227216 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: they're tricky to write in C, although it has been done < 1218227218 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of c and of d < 1218227252 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything else popular? < 1218227281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way I created a game of life implementation in a scriptable propitary share ware fantasy rpg once. as a scenario, my only defence is that my mobo on my pc was broken and I had this old game engine on my old mac, so I was bored to hell < 1218227283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge-93 is pretty easy to implement in C, although it doesn't have multiple-char commands like you requested (Funge-98's a lot harder) < 1218227285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise I would never have done it < 1218227305 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the important thing was that it was propietarty and share ware, of course. < 1218227306 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope BeFunge. < 1218227313 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must have multichar commands < 1218227314 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I once spent several days, possibly weeks, writing stone-paper-scissors for Age of Mythology < 1218227318 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: why? < 1218227326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well this was called "blades of avernum" < 1218227332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and what is "Age of Mythology"? < 1218227336 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was ridiculously overengineered < 1218227347 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: It just doesn't fit MZX. < 1218227354 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: real-time strategy game in the Age of Empires game, it had its own language for writing map generators in < 1218227356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, what the heck is MZX? < 1218227357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1218227360 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a GCS < 1218227362 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :digitalmzx.net < 1218227367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCS? < 1218227370 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I wrote one which always generated the same map which was a multiple-player stone-paper-scissors with AI and scoring and everything < 1218227386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, what has it got to do with esoteric programming? < 1218227391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the second occurence of 'game' two messages ago/line/ < 1218227422 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1218227425 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want to implement one for it < 1218227428 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add one for it < 1218227475 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the multichar commands, then? Does it have its own internal parser? < 1218227488 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean? < 1218227492 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, although INTERCAL has multichar commands its expression syntax is weird and hard to parse < 1218227508 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a multichar programming language, ROBOTIC. < 1218227512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes I'd hate to parse INTERCAL < 1218227518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :portable INTERCAL expressions can't even easily be sent over IRC, which is why a two whole alternative syntaxes for them were invented < 1218227525 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's bad by today's standards; has a thousand hacks to make it still work < 1218227526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ a / / < 1218227531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, intercal *looks* easy to parse at a first glance, but it turns out it isn't < 1218227546 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's it, in fact C-INTERCAL redefines getchar I think to make it work < 1218227555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh!? < 1218227562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are saner ways to do it but that's what it did when I first started tinkering with it and I haven't changed it < 1218227584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it change in it's definition? < 1218227602 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, apart from getting the reimplemented getchar to use read(2) because it was using stdio before and on some systems that was implemented in terms of getchar... < 1218227617 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think it's to change the literal backspaces into something that lex can handle and splitting up ! into '. < 1218227625 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you know i'm actually warming to the gpl < 1218227634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh I see, why the split of !? < 1218227635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lex doesn't like returning two tokens from one char < 1218227644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because ! is an abbreviation for '. in INTERCAL < 1218227654 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, couldn't that be done at lex level? < 1218227656 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and '. is very common, it's sort of like ($ in Perl < 1218227659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe bison < 1218227666 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it probably should be, can't be done sanely at Bison level < 1218227666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so what is ($ in perl? < 1218227671 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in ($a + $b) < 1218227677 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see the $ is part of a different token < 1218227684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah yes < 1218227695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh... I see now < 1218227697 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a similar INTERCAL expression would be !1 ~ .2' < 1218227701 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although ~ isn't addition < 1218227711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what is !1 ? < 1218227716 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's '.1 < 1218227720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the expression is '.1 ~ .2' < 1218227721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that means? < 1218227723 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ' .1 ~ .2 ' < 1218227727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1218227728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotes? < 1218227731 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means .1 select .2 where .1 and .2 are variable names < 1218227736 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: parens, just undirected < 1218227741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1218227743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's normally unambiguous < 1218227754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, then ! seems just stupid to me < 1218227760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would make it harder to read the code < 1218227762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1218227765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the point? < 1218227769 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, that is the point < 1218227771 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there is a possibility to do a language looking like sudoku < 1218227778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a moment I thought you'd missed the point of INTERCAL < 1218227788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was just being sarcastic < 1218227789 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: for a while I tried to figure out how to actually make Sudoku into a TC lang, but failed < 1218227798 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was your idea? < 1218227808 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: INTERCAL is all about being arbitrary for no reason < 1218227813 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you got any < 1218227818 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: allow grids which weren't necessarily a 9x9 square < 1218227828 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe AnMaster is an esolan < 1218227828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still required 1-9 in each row, column and box < 1218227829 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1218227833 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just the exact opposite of INTERCAL... < 1218227837 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just they would have lots of filled-in spaces < 1218227844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, http://www.digitalmzx.net lacks something very important < 1218227850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an introduction to what the hell it is < 1218227853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: the exact opposite of INTERCAL would be a neat, elegant and usual lang which for some reason had no assignment statement < 1218227857 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask the guys around < 1218227858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a game creation system < 1218227863 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: presumably it's scriptable < 1218227864 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ask in #mzx@irc.esper.net < 1218227866 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/usual/usable/, although I like usual too < 1218227866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, yes but some info, so you get a feel for it < 1218227868 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so he wants to implement an esolang in it < 1218227872 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all INTERCAL is certainly unusual < 1218227873 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that looks like a fansite < 1218227873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, not like I care enough < 1218227876 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are you surprise < 1218227876 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1218227880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just liked to tell you that < 1218227883 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nah, still an -esolang- < 1218227887 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the antithesis of INTERCAL < 1218227898 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1218227915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : tusho: the exact opposite of INTERCAL would be a neat, elegant and usual lang which for some reason had no assignment statement <-- something functional maybe? < 1218227922 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: probably < 1218227923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with no variables < 1218227931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... maybe Haskell? < 1218227932 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you couldn't assign < 1218227939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, doesn't it have assignments? < 1218227941 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be a popular and elegant language < 1218227942 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no < 1218227943 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not really < 1218227946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know haskell though < 1218227947 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can bind things < 1218227948 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not assign < 1218227949 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218227949 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | do you think an infinite loop would be trivial in qq by the way? < 1218227953 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has something that looks like an assignment but turns out not to be < 1218227954 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218227955 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I'd like to see an apple-tree implementation of Life. It would be kind of appropriate. < 1218227956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah sounds a bit like erlang? < 1218227961 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1218227962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but erlang got constants < 1218227966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can assign once < 1218227969 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218227971 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what haskell is < 1218227976 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not assignment though. < 1218227977 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, optbot is alluding to lament's famous BORAOAS comment < 1218227977 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in fact, several of TD's things are art < 1218227980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well I know a tiny bit of erlang < 1218227980 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just scoped binding < 1218227983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no haskell < 1218227983 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let x = y in z < 1218227986 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not assignment < 1218227990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I planned to try to learn erlang at some point < 1218227999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a nice language < 1218228001 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a moment I was just wondering why optbot seemed to be out of context... < 1218228001 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: complex isn't too hard to type... considering how not-quite-so-often it'll be used. < 1218228004 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1218228008 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lmao < 1218228014 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I did figure it eventually < 1218228017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ah, optbot is alluding to lament's famous BORAOAS comment <--?? < 1218228017 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, it isn't < 1218228031 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "Even a box of rotten apples on a string is Turing-complete" < 1218228041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, eh, who said that? < 1218228045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament < 1218228047 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1218228049 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: READING COMPREHENSION < 1218228052 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE JUST MENTIONED IT < 1218228054 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE 3 LINES UP! < 1218228054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it called "BORAOAS" < 1218228058 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ON THE LINE THAT YOU ASKED! < 1218228058 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: acronym < 1218228061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I had a very busy day, I'm tired < 1218228065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, for what? < 1218228075 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the phrase < 1218228078 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn < 1218228081 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Box Of Rotten ... < 1218228082 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Box Of Rotten Apples On A String" < 1218228090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION threatens tusho with a "got" < 1218228127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: hi < 1218228128 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: !hangman " < 1218228135 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: E < 1218228135 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not eta :S < 1218228143 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that almost made sense... < 1218228154 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: let's chat < 1218228154 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Do you feel strongly about discussing such things ? < 1218228160 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: are you ELIZA?... < 1218228161 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: That's Plof 2, man. < 1218228166 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ELIZA in Plof 2? Cool. < 1218228167 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: two divs. < 1218228168 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that's exactly what I thought < 1218228169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, was just thinking the same :P < 1218228177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what the heck is Plof? < 1218228182 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: gregorr's langauge < 1218228182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some esolang? < 1218228184 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I remember a few months ago we had several people piping ELIZA into the channel so that's not impossible < 1218228185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1218228185 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not esolang < 1218228192 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, oh now I remember < 1218228196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coded in D right? < 1218228200 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1218228203 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DPlof is < 1218228203 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218228212 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plof3 is based on PSL < 1218228212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the interpreter/compiler/whatever was < 1218228214 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(plof stack language) < 1218228217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1218228219 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the syntax can change at runtime < 1218228226 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and plof3 is just the default syntax < 1218228228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, hey that sounds like that lang of ais523 < 1218228231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the name? < 1218228232 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218228233 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feather < 1218228235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1218228244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see a feather interpreter < 1218228249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you can't make a compiler for it < 1218228256 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't < 1218228257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1218228257 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218228258 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Feather is sufficiently general that after a while everything seems like "that sounds like Feather", it takes over your brain < 1218228258 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can < 1218228262 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd just be a befunge one < 1218228266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, to self modifying ASM < 1218228272 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: more than that < 1218228272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could do that for befunge < 1218228276 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd have to be completely an interp < 1218228277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*think* < 1218228280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not going to try it < 1218228288 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you absolutely need to bundle the source code with Feather, it's possible to prove it < 1218228292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well.. you could probably JIT befunge quite well < 1218228300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh well < 1218228306 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you could end up re-parsing the program as cat < 1218228312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would dump the source code to stdout < 1218228318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I don't know enough about feather really < 1218228324 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could retroactively run the program under a debugger, or something like that < 1218228328 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the problem is, neither do I < 1218228332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I invented it... < 1218228334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh?! < 1218228340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you need to write up some damn specs then < 1218228347 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's kind of hard to get my head around < 1218228347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, give us hello world in feather! < 1218228352 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've tried writing specs but they were wrong < 1218228352 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's not that trivial < 1218228354 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feather is everything < 1218228356 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make it brainfuck < 1218228361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, befunge? < 1218228361 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make it the opposite of feather < 1218228365 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make it so that it never was feather < 1218228373 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the default language is a bit mindfucking anyway < 1218228377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I need to ask a question < 1218228379 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a spec would be way more work than just implementing it < 1218228380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no two questions < 1218228380 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you can retroactively modify anything, including which language the program was running under < 1218228381 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then speccing that < 1218228385 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) is it possible to implement at all? < 1218228388 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1218228392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) is it a sort of nomic? < 1218228393 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think it is, but I want to implement it to be sure < 1218228394 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218228401 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only tangentially related < 1218228404 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(self-modifications) < 1218228406 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, although a Feathernomic would be awesome < 1218228409 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nomics don't do travelling in time < 1218228410 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally :) < 1218228413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hahaha < 1218228416 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of self-modifying to the extreme < 1218228427 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :self-modifying in both time and space < 1218228431 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you should make the timeline first class < 1218228432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well you need to implement it < 1218228433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1218228433 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an object < 1218228436 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can just poke around it < 1218228436 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I do < 1218228441 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really want to implement Feather < 1218228452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm not sure it is feasible < 1218228454 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: let's implement feather starting tomorrow < 1218228454 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll start by implementing Protofeather, I think, which was a lang I invented to write a Feather interp in < 1218228457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language would you use? < 1218228458 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, it isn't feasible < 1218228459 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget feathejs < 1218228461 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's going nowhere < 1218228474 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe a collaborative text editor would help us < 1218228474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I would use a functional lang with call/cc < 1218228482 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ruby < 1218228483 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218228484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm... < 1218228485 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby has call/cc < 1218228495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, isn't ruby imperative? < 1218228497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well I installed gobby like you asked < 1218228501 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: multiparadigm < 1218228506 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i shall get gobby working < 1218228513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1218228521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly is call/cc? < 1218228528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgive my ignorance < 1218228528 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: continuations < 1218228534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1218228538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the name call/cc then? < 1218228543 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call with current continuation < 1218228553 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it passes the continuation with the function it gets < 1218228554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. that means eval basically? < 1218228558 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218228563 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it calls a function < 1218228563 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh and I think TDD or BDD might help a _lot_ with this < 1218228567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is nothing very surprising < 1218228572 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it gives it a continuation as its argument < 1218228572 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feather confuses us enough, it'd be nice to have some base cases < 1218228578 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that we know exactly "what to implement next" < 1218228579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erhm < 1218228590 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically it generates a continuation and passes it to a function as an argument < 1218228600 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feather's basic operation is reasonably easy to write in terms of call/cc < 1218228601 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well what is the basic syntax of non-modified feather? < 1218228606 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@89.108.247.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218228629 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it looks vaguely like Smalltalk < 1218228630 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't < 1218228643 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I invented Feather after thinking about Smalltalk for a while < 1218228652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, example? < 1218228670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm unable to get a "feel" for what it is < 1218228674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you see what I mean < 1218228676 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I see < 1218228683 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an incorrect attempt at a spec with some examples in somewhere < 1218228686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I could try pasting < 1218228691 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's wrong but may give you ideas < 1218228699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1218228712 0 :MikeRiley!n=rileym@las-static-208.57.195.80.mpowercom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218228712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, would be nice yes < 1218228720 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, hi! did you get my email? < 1218228725 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i make a optbot? < 1218228725 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: It would be crazy for it not to. < 1218228726 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes,,,,did you get my response?? < 1218228727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, also Deewiant had a question too < 1218228730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, *checks* < 1218228747 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218228747 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | even though i know the concepts somewhat < 1218228752 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218228752 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | no no no < 1218228756 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1218228757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, yes document what the default for REXP is < 1218228761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is PCRE????? I have never heard of it... < 1218228761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the spec's so misleading that I won't post it < 1218228764 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1218228765 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its bad < 1218228767 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218228767 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | if you prefer to think that way < 1218228768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, that is perl compatbile regex < 1218228771 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218228771 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Probably :P < 1218228773 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh....ok.... < 1218228774 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218228775 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | sounds to me like someone who's eager but doesn't really understand IRC < 1218228779 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1218228782 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that stays < 1218228784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, PCRE Perl Compatible Regular Expression, a library < 1218228786 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you can send a message to an object by writing object message < 1218228786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :libpcre < 1218228789 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or [ object message ] < 1218228794 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, will document what the basic regex that should be supported is... < 1218228800 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need to change precedence, the [] is like () in most langs < 1218228807 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will take a look at pcre.... < 1218228809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lambda is [ arg1 arg2 | code ] < 1218228819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, and yes I wondered what the heck you were planning to write that needed IPC stuff < 1218228840 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never know!!! eheheheheheeh but would like it just in case i ever need it!!! eheheheehheeh < 1218228876 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should seem my FRPC one.....another one that chances are nobody would ever use,,,,but will not stop me from implementing it... < 1218228904 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, as for tests yes, I don't think I will implement stuff unless there is some sort of test suite < 1218228916 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FRPC? < 1218228921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION searches < 1218228932 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is one for DATE now....if you have a particular order that you would be interested in implementing,,,i could write those test scripts first.... < 1218228940 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FRPC - Funge Remote Procedure Call.... < 1218228944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, not found on http://www.elf-emulation.com/funge/rcfunge_manual.html (FRPC) < 1218228960 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is because it is still in the formulation stage,,,, < 1218228970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DATE wasn't there two days ago I think < 1218228990 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley: seen IFFI? < 1218228990 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially it allows an IP in a running funge environment to remotely execute a funge function within a totally separate environemtn.... < 1218229000 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, well I have reserved the name CFFI btw, I haven't yet finished specs as I'm not sure what is feasible to implement < 1218229007 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it will be a full C FFI < 1218229008 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be similar to MACR but more elaborite,,,again would execute in a single tick < 1218229012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to call any function in any library < 1218229016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from inside funge < 1218229029 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have seen IFFI... < 1218229049 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DATE is new as of today.... < 1218229052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have not yet come up with a working and usable interface < 1218229053 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be on my site now... < 1218229054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, I see < 1218229063 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1218229074 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to make an esoteric language called Cake. and it's a lie. < 1218229076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, does it handle leap seconds? < 1218229077 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 1.14 manual has it... < 1218229099 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no....DATE is just simple date functions based upon julian day calculations... < 1218229101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, huh? sounds like a reference to something, but I got no clue what? < 1218229116 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: portal < 1218229119 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please get rid of your rock... < 1218229124 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're too big to hide under it < 1218229124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what rock? < 1218229126 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i have a portal obsession i think < 1218229132 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cake lie? < 1218229134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1218229139 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :portal is a game < 1218229141 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in it, the cake is a lie. < 1218229143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know that < 1218229145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game < 1218229150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even seen some screenshots < 1218229150 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is part of the game plot. < 1218229154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems pretty cool game < 1218229157 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cake is promised by glados throughout the game < 1218229161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1218229162 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and near the end you find out that it is a lie < 1218229162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1218229170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1218229192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not exactly, AFAIR there's just a wall with "the cake is a lie" spraypainted onto it < 1218229196 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218229201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I haven't played the game so I'm not sure < 1218229201 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically it isn't a lie < 1218229206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe the wall, rather than the cake, is a lie? < 1218229210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, hrrm I may implement DATE, have still to track down that elusive t bug < 1218229213 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at the end of the final cutscene there is cake.) < 1218229224 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's after you destroy glados < 1218229232 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, obviously, *glados'* promise was a lie < 1218229238 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I haven't actually played the game, hah) < 1218229258 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ok will send you the DATE test program < 1218229259 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone overanalyzed the song < 1218229260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, I have to do that before implementing any more fingerprints I decided < 1218229266 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley: does it work under sdate? < 1218229274 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what t bug do you have?? < 1218229277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried cfunge under sdate and it gave the right year but the wrong month < 1218229287 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: those pesky posix_time functinos < 1218229289 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently due to the way the date's packed into integers < 1218229297 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: stop it, this meme is no longer funny < 1218229309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, mycology says "a b" takes more than 5 ticks, I checked and it doesn't, but compared to ccbi the threads are not in the places they should be before < 1218229316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there is a desync happening at some time < 1218229320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I need to track that down < 1218229320 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes but if a no-longer-funny meme lasts for ages and ages it becomes hilarious again < 1218229323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't managed yet < 1218229325 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should I say posix_hilarious < 1218229345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I tried cfunge under sdate and it gave the right year but the wrong month <-- which I explained isn't odd < 1218229347 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I have such memes as inside jokes elsewhere, the point is that it only becomes hilarious if it was never funny to start with < 1218229353 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok AnMaster,,,DATE test program is emailed.... < 1218229356 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, I understand the explanation < 1218229361 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just wondering whether DATE would work < 1218229362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, becuase of the way funge encodes dates in y < 1218229370 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmm on the "a b" one.....mine works.... < 1218229383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and well I don't think anyone but you cares about that, and it is not something I'm likely to test < 1218229384 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1218229389 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: actually if you wait twice as long once-funny ones return too < 1218229392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no offence meant < 1218229396 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, /someone/ wrote sdate < 1218229401 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, ALL YOUR POSIX_ ARE BELONG TO US < 1218229411 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well that meme never stopped being funny < 1218229412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, yes well I checked and it *does* take the right number of ticks in cfunge, but the desync happens before < 1218229416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which mess up later < 1218229432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes, all your base.... < 1218229434 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am bored. Any ideas to do on pencil and paper? < 1218229440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is one of the better memes < 1218229449 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ate my balls < 1218229461 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any esolangs you can do on pencil&paper? < 1218229476 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ate_my_balls ) < 1218229476 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1218229523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, hrrm.... befunge you could do on a grid by hand I guess < 1218229529 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whirl? < 1218229537 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: is it in the space compression code??? that is where mine was with that one.... < 1218229541 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make a pencil&paper implementation of whirl < 1218229543 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1218229549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, no I checked that < 1218229552 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: BF's pretty easy even on pencil and paper < 1218229556 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: you could implement p&p anything < 1218229556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you can even run it in your head < 1218229557 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, I'm not sure where it happens < 1218229557 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try intercal < 1218229565 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I find Befunge in my head to not be too hard usually < 1218229565 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm how does mycology actually test that function?? < 1218229567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL's harder < 1218229570 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could it be a bug in mycology?? < 1218229573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the operators are hard to do mentally < 1218229589 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the CAPTCHA on the CLC-INTERCAL website I often have to load up intercalc to solve < 1218229593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, I plan to do a binary search based on tick count compared to the first t (can't do it absolute as y testing will differ) to find where ccbi and cfunge starts to differ < 1218229595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I mess up when doing it in my head < 1218229596 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack based languages are really easy to do in your head < 1218229597 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must do a PENCIL esoteric Language < 1218229599 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they use high level enough combinators < 1218229612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, using ccbi debugger and the .gdbinit that comes with cfunge < 1218229660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, FORTH? < 1218229664 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no. < 1218229666 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what functions could a pencil&paper programming language have < 1218229667 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1218229669 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth doesn't have high-level combinators < 1218229670 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218229683 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lost the game < 1218229694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, it should be easy to do befunge on that < 1218229695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said < 1218229716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a marker, a paper with a grid, a pencil and some way to remove pencil marks to change them < 1218229718 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bye!" < 1218229721 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about SNUSP? < 1218229724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a stack tracker of some kind < 1218229725 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: of the new fingerprints, which ones do you want to implement, then i will write those test scripts before the others... < 1218229729 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: wow, that was abrupt < 1218229730 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.115.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1218229733 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: still here? < 1218229734 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: minimum space as in O(1) spae < 1218229738 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about something using ONLY pencil, eraser and paper < 1218229741 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently so < 1218229743 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specially designed for it < 1218229758 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: maybe something special could happen if you wore a hole in the page? < 1218229758 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like a reversible language or anything without lost information might be nice on paper, as you don't wanna erase too much < 1218229762 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz it gets messy < 1218229764 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, well LONG and FING definitely < 1218229765 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it runs on eso-std.org < 1218229767 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how it changed the topic last night < 1218229773 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why doesn't opt-bot respond to /msg? < 1218229774 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok,,,, < 1218229776 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why doesn't optbot respond to /msg? < 1218229776 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Uh... immibis, you should'nt do that < 1218229777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, maybe EXEC, 3DSP too < 1218229778 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why should it < 1218229786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, possibly SETS < 1218229795 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: uh i'd tell you to read the source but it has my password in it < 1218229797 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: many bots do so you can mess with them without flooding the channel < 1218229797 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^.^ < 1218229800 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok,,, < 1218229806 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why not optbot's password? < 1218229806 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Only numbers. < 1218229814 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, that was good optbot < 1218229814 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: guess what, they just launched the new site < 1218229815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, and where did you put the DATE test? < 1218229816 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: that won't be a very secure password then < 1218229816 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: damn < 1218229820 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1218229822 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emailed it to you < 1218229823 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1218229825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the mail just arrived < 1218229826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1218229826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1218229832 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most welcome < 1218229834 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making a hole on the instruction point will remove the space forever < 1218229843 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be normal BF < 1218229843 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, i'm lazy and stupid and I picked one password and used it everywhere for like years < 1218229848 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i cba to go and change everything < 1218229848 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but operating on bits < 1218229850 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1218229861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, anyway I had a very busy day so going to sleep soon, probably on the keyboard if I don't relocate myself to the local sleeping facility soon ;P < 1218229868 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just make holes in order to make bits < 1218229871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is: bed) < 1218229872 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ok, I generally have different passwords for things other people might be able to see < 1218229872 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehehehe ok,,,,, < 1218229883 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me know if you have any furhter questions on those fingerprints.... < 1218229891 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will email you the test scripts as i complete them... < 1218229923 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I want to use 1password eventually < 1218229931 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1218229933 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets you use one password but for each site generates a long, random one < 1218229936 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, nice, you should put them up on some website too IMO < 1218229938 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lets you also sync it everywhere < 1218229940 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and back it up < 1218229940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for other authors to use < 1218229940 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that isn't a very secure password, although it's probably marginally more secure than password1 < 1218229943 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any single-player puzzle games you can play on paper? < 1218229945 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so that you're not tied just to that app) < 1218229948 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it uses os x's keychain) < 1218229953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, would be very useful for everyone who wants to implement it < 1218229955 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TETRIS i think < 1218229957 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, thanks for reading my password < 1218229957 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218229969 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I finally turned off hunter2 mode over here < 1218229970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, hm you need to remove strips and such < 1218229975 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was causing too much confusion < 1218229976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't really see it done on paper < 1218229980 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: would you like to ghost me for the symbolism? < 1218229985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just use normal asterisks if I ever turn it back on again? < 1218229994 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should ais ghost me < 1218229995 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: but having the file that's needed rmd at the end of the step < 1218229996 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should ais ghost me < 1218229997 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: "EPLs". < 1218229998 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should ais ghost me < 1218229998 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Which is the boot sector and the partition table. < 1218229999 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should ais ghost me < 1218229999 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's called "emacs" < 1218230000 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should ais ghost me < 1218230001 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Hola < 1218230002 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: should ais ghost me < 1218230002 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's just identify password < 1218230011 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: say yes < 1218230011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that last one was appropriate < 1218230012 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: this_is_a_command; "This is a literal string". this ~ " is a string with variables and " ~ commands() ~ " being parsed." < 1218230012 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i will put all the test scripts on my funge website... < 1218230012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck < 1218230020 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :separate from the Rc/Funge-98 distribution... < 1218230025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, sure :) < 1218230027 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a 1-player puzzle game for pencil&paper, then? < 1218230047 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Tetris < 1218230050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, the cfunge repo contains some tests and some examples, and since I just export for releases they contain it too < 1218230056 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you'll have to figure out some way to make the blocks move yourself < 1218230081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, hope some of http://bzr.kuonet.org/cfunge/trunk/files/337?file_id=tests-20080312224933-r7p428lop2j37r0o-1 are useful to you < 1218230083 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Sudoku would be one sane example, anyway < 1218230088 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dev directory has all kinds of test programs,,,,but most of them have very cryptic output....so not too good for general consumption... < 1218230096 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will take a look < 1218230118 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing concatenative code is better than soduku < 1218230124 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo :P < 1218230134 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all about continually shortening and splitting it and then tidying it off < 1218230137 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a game, really < 1218230166 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without sudoku < 1218230177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, well mine got descriptive text at the end < 1218230177 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, no tetris, i have tetris, picross and sudoku on my ds already < 1218230185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah not very useful < 1218230196 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: well there's a game I made up in my head several weeks ago which is actually quite difficult < 1218230205 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the way mycology does them,,,so will redo all my test programs to be similar... < 1218230221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, for example http://bzr.kuonet.org/cfunge/trunk/annotate/337?file_id=concurrentquit.b98-20080330095205-t1xqar6x4mwzwum0-1 got two possible outputs: quit, or segfault ;) < 1218230225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, may be worth trying it < 1218230233 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will try it... < 1218230234 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on how you do t < 1218230245 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given a range of non-negative integers (say 0-13), find the smallest subset of those integers such that each integer in the large set is the difference between two integers in the small set < 1218230248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it will print good a few times < 1218230252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if everything goes well < 1218230286 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me a sec,,,,trying it now... < 1218230323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, actually that isn't a valid download link, it points to a version control annotated copy < 1218230330 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got 4 goods and then a normal program end... < 1218230334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1218230337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, :) < 1218230350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, the other ones in http://bzr.kuonet.org/cfunge/trunk/files/337?file_id=tests-20080312224933-r7p428lop2j37r0o-1 are also worth trying < 1218230352 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah,,,,used the download link to grab the file... < 1218230358 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grabbing < 1218230373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most got comments explaining what should happen < 1218230406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C means correct most of the time and W means wrong, or it prints more like GOOD/BAD, or it just doesn't print anything, *sometimes it got a comment in it* < 1218230407 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok,,,,will give all of them a try... < 1218230441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, the ones called *.b108 will probably not work as expected in RC/Funge < 1218230456 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not....i have implemented some of 108,,,,but not 100% yet... < 1218230467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 108 is still not a fixed standard < 1218230475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so any support currently is for some draft < 1218230480 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like reflection for k u ( ) and such... < 1218230486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they are likely to say < 1218230486 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :added the additional y fields... < 1218230487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stay* < 1218230498 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the k functionality (minus the nested) < 1218230515 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, yep also likely to stay, with the exception of that trinary funge stuff which may not work out well in other parts < 1218230534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's certainly possible to do such a funge but I don't think it can be part of the standard really < 1218230540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1218230544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too separate < 1218230544 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea when you will have a standard that is relatively set?? < 1218230555 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah,,,,,i agree with you.... < 1218230568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, hard to say, need to get input from C. Pressy too on the final draft < 1218230576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I like input from you and Deewiant < 1218230585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no cfunge doesn't do all the 108 stuff yet either < 1218230594 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than the new fingerprint method....everything else seemed reasonable.... < 1218230597 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1218230603 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except nested k,,,do not really see the point in it.... < 1218230607 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to have a look through it too at some point < 1218230614 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley: it's pointless but still needs to be specified < 1218230619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/funge108/ < 1218230623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the files are in there < 1218230630 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how near-finished is it? < 1218230631 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err typo < 1218230634 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can understand specified....just see it as pointless... < 1218230637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/funge-108/ < 1218230638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dash < 1218230648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, some parts are pretty finished, other parts aren't < 1218230649 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1218230652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but input would be good < 1218230655 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have to get tusho to finish making ESO usable in a hurry < 1218230660 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the spec tho...seems like 0 iterations is not possible??? only 1 up??? < 1218230662 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218230676 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, well I don't like UNDEF, and k was *really* underdefined in 98 < 1218230684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the k part is over a page now isn't it? < 1218230689 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree there,,,,k was very problematic in 98... < 1218230693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, 0 is possible < 1218230694 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so... < 1218230700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be anyway < 1218230713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically works the way CCBI implemented it < 1218230719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nested k probably doesn't < 1218230735 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well,,,,cannot remember quite the example....but if you had something like: 111122kk5 sounded like from the spec you will get 5 5s??? < 1218230740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, anyway iterate-iterate.b108 and iterate-iterate2.b108 are both about nested k < 1218230745 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the skip skips the k and would land on the 5.... < 1218230756 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the spec,,,, < 1218230765 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so would not 00kk5 still end up on the 5???? < 1218230780 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did i misread something??? < 1218230781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, and not sure about that, but basically remember on the second iteration of the inner k you would pop the iteration count again, which would mean you popped a 5 you pushed the first time < 1218230789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you see what I mean < 1218230805 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes,,,see what you mean,,,should have used something other than something that pushed onto the stack,,, < 1218230814 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like 00kk, or 111122kk,.... < 1218230853 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for 00kk < 1218230854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm < 1218230856 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost would have defined nested k as an error,,,and made it reflect... < 1218230861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would not execute the second k < 1218230864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that is pretty clear < 1218230869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an issue however is: < 1218230872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :000kkk < 1218230877 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep..... < 1218230880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: error in the Funge-space diagram, 32-bit integers go down to -2147483648 as you say but up to only 2147483648 < 1218230883 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: error in the Funge-space diagram, 32-bit integers go down to -2147483648 as you say but up to only 2147483647 < 1218230885 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think nested k is very problematic.... < 1218230885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1218230891 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, corrected version, I made the same mistake as you first time... < 1218230924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I copied from the diagram from Funge-108 but remade it in inkscape, it was ASCII art in 98 < 1218230925 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it did something useful, i could see having it,,,,but without a real use for it.....complicates the k code for no real reason... < 1218230926 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1218230933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so what is the error? you confused me < 1218230942 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asda < 1218230943 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sd < 1218230947 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: range of 32-bit int, it only goes up to 2147483647 < 1218230954 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1218230958 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[21:24:16] I may have to get tusho to finish making ESO usable in a hurry < 1218230960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your funge-space diagram lists a column 2147483648 < 1218230962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks < 1218230966 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not particularly inclined to accept funge-108 as an eso spec < 1218230973 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why not? < 1218230975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, and well reflect on nested k seems worse < 1218230977 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in your framework of choice? < 1218230981 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of personal concerns AnMaster has stated that he doesn't want an HTML version or similar < 1218230983 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stop trollin < 1218230983 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1218230985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still worth us looking over < 1218230988 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sorry < 1218230997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I will make a pure text version if you want < 1218231004 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be worse, actually < 1218231010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can export from LyX to text, will need some fixing up of the tables after < 1218231012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can be done < 1218231013 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, I will look it over < 1218231016 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why not an HTML version, anyway, if what tusho says is correct? < 1218231017 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it depends on AnMaster co-operating < 1218231023 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1218231024 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a case of "don't want" or "can't produce easily" < 1218231025 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm pretty sure he's flat-out stated that he's not changing his format < 1218231025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well *I* won't make that < 1218231031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I hate coding html < 1218231038 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that makes sense, but you don't mind if someone else html-converts it < 1218231042 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: basically - ESO standards should be made in a semantic language < 1218231045 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LyX is a presentational language < 1218231046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sure if it works correctly < 1218231053 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe with nested k,,,,just like and ; cannot be executed,,,maybe k should not be either?? < 1218231058 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we _could_ modify it ourselves, but then it wouldn't be the official version < 1218231058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, is it? it is all about semantics IMO < 1218231073 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: its certainly not semantic in the way i meant < 1218231077 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i do hate having exceptions....at least and ; make sense < 1218231084 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is to a degreee, but not in the metadata way that I meant < 1218231087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: we can ESO-bless it as a true and accurate conversion < 1218231099 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and that'll mean F all if AnMaster points to his version < 1218231120 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has stated clearly that the lyx version will be the official one < 1218231121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :full stop < 1218231124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, well I implemented the damn nested k in cfunge now and Deewiant thought this was the most sane way to do it (he was against the reflect alternative) < 1218231138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, btw D in FILE, should it just delete files or also directories? < 1218231144 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can certainy implement it too...just seems messy for no reason... < 1218231177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my k is very messy because I need to make exceptions when doing threading < 1218231182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a compile time options < 1218231186 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D in my implementation uses unlink, intended to delete files, no reason why it could not delete subdirs as well < 1218231191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, just iterate over t or @ XD < 1218231204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, well I prefer unlink() too < 1218231209 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIRF is for subdirs < 1218231213 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well, if we certify it as being identical to the official version I don't see why AnMaster wouldn't link to it < 1218231213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FILE for files < 1218231222 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is my basic take on it.... < 1218231222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, indeed < 1218231248 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since DIRF already has a directory deletion function.... < 1218231248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, I think it makes sense for FILE to only do files, not directories < 1218231255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just document it :) < 1218231258 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does make sense.... < 1218231261 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will document it.... < 1218231269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant was wondering about it < 1218231271 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because he's said so < 1218231278 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you cannot tell,,,i am terrible at documentation!!! eheheheheheheheheeheh < 1218231305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I said tex version would be a sane official one < 1218231329 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so if we did all the work for you you would designate ours as the official one? < 1218231333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm happy to make another version official if it is sane, and correct < 1218231339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I would need to read over it < 1218231343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to check it is the same < 1218231347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably < 1218231349 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ok then < 1218231355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, anyway I need to finish it first < 1218231356 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, this relies on the actual standard being sane ;) < 1218231359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I hope it will be... < 1218231360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, hah! < 1218231362 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, you know < 1218231386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you will love this: < 1218231398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I printed it out yesterday for proof reading, took it with me as bed time reading < 1218231404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel asleep at third chapter < 1218231409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it was boring or something ;) < 1218231418 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: probably your awful taste in fonts < 1218231419 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218231434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I did select a serif font before printing < 1218231447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latin Modern < 1218231450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be exact < 1218231487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, oh btw run a spell checker on that page with your fingerprints, no offence meant < 1218231498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Deewiant did quote some with [sic] iirc < 1218231506 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no offense taken,,,,i admit that i am a horrible speller!!!! < 1218231517 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley: it's more your grammar,,,that I worry about < 1218231517 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218231520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(misspelled communication iirc was one of them) < 1218231525 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am worse at grammar.... < 1218231531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps tusho around with a "got" < 1218231541 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stabs AnMaster in the eye with optbot's help < 1218231542 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that's what programmers need < 1218231548 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: agreed. a good eye-stabbing < 1218231548 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: even if not about you, but about your comment, which is kinda weird < 1218231548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah! < 1218231556 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: well, I think his comment warranted it < 1218231556 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: im assuming the code is correct not the list? < 1218231559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... ASCII needs a 'dimension feed' character for Quadrefunge < 1218231570 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, vertical tab < 1218231573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? < 1218231577 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'd have expected a LOL from you about that < 1218231580 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's less of a movement than formfeed < 1218231581 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seemed as funny as the last time at least :P < 1218231583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if you do more dimensions you should do: < 1218231585 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the coherency ended quicker < 1218231593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vertical tab < 1218231595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe it should come between newline and formfeed in Quadrefunge < 1218231602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to allow easy extending to more dimensions < 1218231604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ^ < 1218231606 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how is the dimension delimited < 1218231608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what I would do < 1218231616 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... and we should at least mess with device control 1, 2, 3, and 4 < 1218231618 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, a number following the vertical tab < 1218231620 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those chars don't get enough love < 1218231627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess there should be a newline too < 1218231628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that < 1218231629 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how do you tell when the number ends and funge-space begins < 1218231637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, a newline would make sense < 1218231643 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I suppose so < 1218231656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\v(\n|\r\n|\r) < 1218231671 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, I doubt anyone will ever program in Quadrefunge, except maybe they will now I've said it < 1218231672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc that is what I and MikeRiley decided some days ago < 1218231681 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even 3 dimensions is too many really < 1218231684 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds about right... < 1218231693 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to make a system using \n\r < 1218231695 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to break everything < 1218231703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, if someone made a 105-dimension funge then someone would use all 105 dimensions in a hello world < 1218231707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then never touch it again < 1218231708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218231718 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eheheheheheheeheheheh probably!!!!! < 1218231722 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need Hilbert-Lahey-space Funge < 1218231725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway I can see some use for a lot of dimensions < 1218231730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, data structures < 1218231736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy to represent binary trees < 1218231744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or n-dimensional arrays < 1218231751 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also need instructions tho to move throught all those dimensions... < 1218231765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how do you represent a binary tree in Hilbert-Lahey-Funge? < 1218231768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how can you do a 3D array in befunge? < 1218231777 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1218231778 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not sure, but I think it would make it easier < 1218231782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: multiplicatively < 1218231783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what is "Hilbert-Lahey-Funge" < 1218231788 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :muldimensional arrays I can understand < 1218231798 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: hilbert space is a bit like infinite-dimensional cartesian space < 1218231799 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well not a binary tree maybe < 1218231802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :may have confused it < 1218231805 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was just lahifying it < 1218231821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, who was/is Lahey? < 1218231825 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1218231825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway a tree could be easy < 1218231830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :down node: next dimension < 1218231833 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Lahey-space is familiar to all Funge programmers, I hope < 1218231844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try checking Wikipedia, it's normally good for looking up that sort of thing < 1218231849 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you need a side node you just try the next dimension < 1218231856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes I know what Lahey-space is < 1218231866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when I googled once all I found was funge references iirc < 1218231905 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1218232005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... apparently it was invented by "Chris Lahey", which turns up quite a few google results but I'm not sure if they're relayed < 1218232013 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be a common name < 1218232016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1218232022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so it is funge specific then < 1218232056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what did you say the range should be for 32-bit int? < 1218232064 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is opening the file in inkscape atm < 1218232079 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the positive value is less positive by one than the negative value is negative < 1218232081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you see what I mean < 1218232097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, in 2-complement that is? < 1218232107 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, in 1-complement they're both one lower than you have them < 1218232114 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :positive maximum's always an odd number < 1218232132 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218232134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, true < 1218232135 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm < 1218232156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the reason for this one lower in 2-complement? < 1218232172 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not the same person as navigator/mooz_ < 1218232178 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for the record < 1218232181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because 0 exists < 1218232185 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say in 8-bit numbers < 1218232192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you have 0-127 which is 128 possibilities < 1218232199 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and -1 to -128 which is the other 128 possibilities < 1218232202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, will be fixed on next udpate < 1218232204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 1s complement you have two zeros < 1218232205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :update* < 1218232216 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it only goes down to -127 as well because you have -0 < 1218232229 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah true < 1218232240 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think two complement is rather arcane ;P < 1218232245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you see what I mean < 1218232261 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, but convenient for people < 1218232267 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for computers < 1218232270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1218232276 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you don't have to distinguish signed/unsigned < 1218232287 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1's complement is neater if you know everything is signed, and just as easy to wire up in the hardware < 1218232293 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chris lahey is probably not real < 1218232295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you have to for * and / but not + and - iirc? < 1218232300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how is it? < 1218232312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2's complement you ignore the carry from the top bit, 1's complement you wrap the top carry as the carry input for the bottom bit) < 1218232330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you have to for /, not sure about * < 1218232335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1218232345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what about - and +? < 1218232365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just do them as unsigned right? < 1218232369 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- and + don't care about signedness with 2's complement < 1218232391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they have different error conditions on overflow according to whether they're signed or unsigned < 1218232403 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus the 6502 for instance has signed-overflow and unsigned-overflow condition bits < 1218232444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502? < 1218232457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an old-fashioned processor, and the first asm language I ever learnt < 1218232463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the BBC Micro used it < 1218232463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also doesn't x86 allow overflow in both without complaining iirc? < 1218232470 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: your perl test script produces errors in my perl, which perl version does it expect? < 1218232471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the 6502 didn't complain either < 1218232486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBC Micro, I always wondered, was it related to BBC the broadcasting compay? < 1218232489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :company* < 1218232496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you need to know whether there was overflow to chain its 8-bit additions into 16-bit or 32-bit additions < 1218232505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, "This is perl, v5.8.8 built for x86_64-linux" < 1218232511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, should be portable iirc < 1218232513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks < 1218232532 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most cpus had an overflow flag for doing arbitrarily long math... < 1218232543 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1218232543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm true < 1218232544 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they made it < 1218232552 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1218232554 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Acorn did for them < 1218232555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, odd < 1218232560 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1218232562 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was made for schools < 1218232569 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbc provide a lot of multimedia for schools < 1218232574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218232587 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster, here is what i get from running perl.b98: < 1218232588 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, near ""Hello world!\n";" < 1218232588 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, next char ) < 1218232588 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1218232589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah yes... < 1218232591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think BBC Micro was related at least tangentially to the broadcasting company, partly because BBC Micro Mode 7 uses the same terminal-control language as Teletext uses < 1218232595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for things like colours and so on < 1218232611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, I think this may be an issue with your implementation, it just does some basic stuff like printing hello world < 1218232612 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was made by acorn for the bbc < 1218232620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :v "$x=" "' "Hello world!\n" "' "; print $x"0< < 1218232623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means... < 1218232624 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that would make sense < 1218232632 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok,,,hold on...let me try it with something that i know.....brb < 1218232644 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't PERL use 0"gnirts" < 1218232671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf can't figure that out < 1218232711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$x="Hello world\n"; print $x" < 1218232713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be it < 1218232714 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot < 1218232714 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: wait. < 1218232717 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: why < 1218232717 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I like my number generation algorithm :) < 1218232722 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: why does that mean i have to wait < 1218232722 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: and I might agree about the cleverness if I understood that ;) < 1218232726 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ??? < 1218232726 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: /------\/ < 1218232729 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: wtf < 1218232729 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: as indeed was I < 1218232730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: were you trying to run a Befunge program as Perl? < 1218232733 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: have you gone mad < 1218232733 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: but this does < 1218232735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, nop < 1218232737 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: wtf! < 1218232737 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: or maybe not < 1218232743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was trying to load a string on the stack < 1218232745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that contained quotes < 1218232749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the issue < 1218232751 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ah < 1218232758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I didn't understand the code < 1218232762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the code is correct I think < 1218232766 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: when are we going to make that strongly-typed, lazy self-rewriting language? < 1218232769 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be amazing < 1218232780 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with no control structures apart from its self-rewriting of course) < 1218232780 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, anyway I guess your code does one quote too much in some way? < 1218232784 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird,,,wrote a simple test,,,,failed as well,,,,by mycology works,,,,weird..... < 1218232788 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: after Feather and Underload and Underlambda and all the other stuff we're going to do < 1218232790 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but extensible enough that you could implement regular control structures with it) < 1218232791 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :D < 1218232801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, mycology probably doesn't test with quotes in the string to execute < 1218232806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, so I guess the issue is there < 1218232812 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking perl.c ..... maybe there is something odd in there... < 1218232843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MikeRiley, http://bzr.kuonet.org/cfunge/trunk/annotate/337?file_id=perl.c-20080415234024-e7mizpsvp1v9ole8-3 < 1218232845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is my perl < 1218232849 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note code is horrible < 1218232859 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"because it's PERL LOL" < 1218232864 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: strongly typed rewriting is easy < 1218232871 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not in the way I meant it < 1218232873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just rewrite at the parser tree level not at the token level < 1218232874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, because file descriptor stuff is messy < 1218232875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why < 1218232883 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 'schating :) < 1218232896 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s'cheating < 1218232907 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. arguably OIL's a strongly typed rewriting language, but it rewrites something else not itself, if it rewrote itself it would be more of a rewriting language < 1218232946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1218232957 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night AnMaster < 1218232985 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1218232993 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye AnMaster < 1218232997 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps. AnMaster < 1218233002 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your name intentionally grammatically incorrect < 1218233025 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I don't think An is an article in eir nick < 1218233048 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it then :P < 1218233094 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by the way, why is yahoo.com alexa #1 but google.com alexa #2? < 1218233098 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely google is more popular than yahoo < 1218233105 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe alexa users are more prone to use yahoo < 1218233108 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so why < 1218233126 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I think it's partly because google.com is just the search < 1218233133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. googlemail.com is a different domain < 1218233140 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas yahoo lump everything under one domain < 1218233141 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but mail.google.com is not < 1218233148 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type gmail.com < 1218233152 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you go to mail.google.com < 1218233155 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok, so that isn't it < 1218233208 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, google.co.uk is at 23 < 1218233210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's it < 1218233222 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: US users of google should still outway users of yahoo < 1218233229 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google is, like, the most popular site, ever < 1218233233 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe msn < 1218233235 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and google.fr at 20 < 1218233239 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(due to default homepageness) < 1218233245 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and google.de at 16 < 1218233248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, just checking back < 1218233253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is intentional < 1218233257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :becuase it is my initials < 1218233261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An are my initials < 1218233262 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ah < 1218233262 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm not convinced that Google&&US > Yahoo anywhere < 1218233266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather AN are < 1218233268 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so you are the master of ... yourself? < 1218233282 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, now stop trying to find hidden meanings in it :P < 1218233282 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl module working correctly now.... < 1218233288 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i still don't get it :P < 1218233295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I don't get your nick either < 1218233305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of odd nicks < 1218233312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my nick is odd < 1218233316 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were ais524 it would be even < 1218233322 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :har har har < 1218233324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1218233331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I can guess of the cause of that < 1218233333 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: my name = random pronouncableness that is relatively google-empty < 1218233335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais was used < 1218233340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add some random numbers < 1218233341 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ais is his initial < 1218233341 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1218233344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :result ais523 < 1218233344 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its his university name < 1218233346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to just /nick 523 < 1218233349 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it wouldn't let me < 1218233352 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there have been 522 ais' before him < 1218233362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why 523? < 1218233366 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I use ais523 everywhere since the number 523 was randomly alloted to my username < 1218233369 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just told you AnMaster < 1218233372 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at his uni < 1218233379 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the number 523 has no reason behind it at all other than an effectively random process < 1218233380 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there have been 522 people with the initials ais before him < 1218233386 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he got ais523, presumably < 1218233441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1218233443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1218233448 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1218233482 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1218233488 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: say night < 1218233489 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: false, surely true, surely false... < 1218233496 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: deep < 1218233497 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: AnMaster: :-D, not everything 4-char is a Befunge fingerprint ;-) < 1218233499 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's about the best we can get out of em... < 1218233502 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he mentioned AnMaster < 1218233504 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218233524 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: how do you know optbot isn't female? < 1218233524 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: dvorak kind of suffers from that as well < 1218233533 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: statistics < 1218233536 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he repeats what we say < 1218233539 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are almost all male < 1218233540 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED < 1218233540 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, Dvorak was really female? < 1218233546 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1218233560 0 :MikeRiley!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1218233620 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a new topic < 1218233621 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218233621 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | are anybody here? < 1218233624 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1218233637 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1218233643 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love this bot :p < 1218233670 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll feel kind of bad when botte is done and optbot merely becomes a plugin of botte... < 1218233670 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: failed :< < 1218233671 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1218233678 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, even optbot is upset about it < 1218233678 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: of course, the dollar was much more valuable 6 months ago :-) < 1218233680 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't want to fail < 1218233682 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless but... indispensable < 1218233695 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: totally < 1218233716 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, do u think that too , < 1218233716 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: http://koti.mbnet.fi/yiap/ < 1218233716 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1218233731 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1218233746 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: indispensable? < 1218233746 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how do you guys pronounce 'Malbolge'? < 1218233763 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pets optbot < 1218233763 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: leave the pointer in the same cell < 1218233767 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: OK < 1218233767 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes < 1218233772 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yes? < 1218233772 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Well that would explain it. < 1218233775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: indeed < 1218233775 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: You can write notes on the tape, and the interpreter would read them with the PC speaker < 1218233783 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm... as three syllables, although I can see how it could be pronounced with 2 < 1218233798 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Malb-Olge < 1218233799 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mal - bolge < 1218233801 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty simple < 1218233802 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1218233806 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bolj < 1218233811 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mal - bolj < 1218233819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pronounce it mal-bolg-uh < 1218233831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1218233832 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1218233834 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so quite a variance < 1218233842 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see how your pronunciation would work too though < 1218233852 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the layer of hell pronounced < 1218233864 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that either < 1218233865 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say it mal-bolj < 1218233866 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has an extra e < 1218233876 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine it's pronounced the same way < 1218233878 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :male - bolg - e < 1218233885 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably it < 1218233888 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maelbolge < 1218233919 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :malebolge should probable be pronounces in italian though < 1218233933 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it means something like "the evil ditch" < 1218233957 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say it in french < 1218233977 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mal (evil) bol (cup) je (like I) < 1218233993 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite easy :p < 1218233996 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil cup like I < 1218233997 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1218234056 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I pronounce it with a hard g but otherwise the same as M0ny < 1218234072 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol tusho :p < 1218234089 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot certainly seems good at inspiring discussions < 1218234090 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because that would be the same as [...] < 1218234098 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1218234102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... which would be the same as [.]? < 1218234114 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think optbot was talking about brainfuck < 1218234114 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ifuckinghatetheplatformyouhavetogoonbeforetheroombeforemiketyson < 1218234121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1218234122 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, okay < 1218234131 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: playing IWBTG are we? < 1218234131 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I'm adding auto-login support. < 1218234135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... to IWBTG? < 1218234139 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IWBTG? < 1218234145 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1218234147 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I Wanna Be the Guy: The Movie: The Game < 1218234154 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Wanna_Be_The_Guy < 1218234156 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1218234166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :autologin support to Tetris would be an interesting concept < 1218234172 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: say something < 1218234172 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: HAI. CAN HAS STDIO? VISIBLE "HAI WORLD!". KTHXBYE. < 1218234173 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-bit style platformer that is designed to be like all the hardest NES games put together, times 500000 < 1218234178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT IN LOLCODE.... < 1218234189 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh no < 1218234191 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad optbot! < 1218234191 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh? < 1218234198 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1218234206 0 :jix!n=jix@evoke-party-visitors.vipri.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1218234209 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now optbot's imitating AnMaster < 1218234210 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I doubt they'll be related to your code < 1218234223 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psst...optbot... non-portable code < 1218234224 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: jabber?! < 1218234228 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAAHHAHAHAA < 1218234242 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jabber's portable though I think, isn't it/ < 1218234245 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\//?/ < 1218234248 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the protocol < 1218234251 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, optbot? < 1218234251 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (push number - a second. then any interval, corresponding to the actual number. Then pop - a unison) < 1218234254 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jabber's protocol is xml < 1218234281 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, does aliens exist ? < 1218234281 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: You have a valid program you want to compile, yet it can never be compiled < 1218234307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a rather metaphorical take on that... < 1218234326 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he bypass the subject :p < 1218234336 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah its just a phiisophical look < 1218234337 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at it :D < 1218234340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, optbot was just trying to give a tangential example < 1218234341 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh < 1218234347 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: you weren't? < 1218234347 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ::bites oklopol:: < 1218234356 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ok that's just vicious < 1218234356 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: *that < 1218234358 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, binary < 1218234358 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: oh noes!~ < 1218234364 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::bites oklopol:: is an augur line < 1218234366 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, 01010110100101011010010101 < 1218234366 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: you know what? i hate you < 1218234367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: I got it right first time... < 1218234367 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Who was it that thought it would be cruel to bring children into the world because the world would end soon? < 1218234371 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1218234380 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... thank u optbot -_- < 1218234380 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: Err < 1218234386 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok :) < 1218234388 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1218234389 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:25:57] optbot: ok that's just vicious < 1218234389 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:25:57] ais523: *that < 1218234389 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it was part of the original division routine in the system library < 1218234389 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i dont know, i cant speak for thousands of people that i'm not. < 1218234393 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's brilliant < 1218234415 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I should have misspelt that, it would have been truly funny then < 1218234462 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: say something amusing < 1218234463 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: "tieto" is "knowledge" < 1218234468 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: don't say something amusing < 1218234469 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: converting to s-exprs is basically parsing. < 1218234472 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1218234474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: that's insightful, not amusing < 1218234474 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: convert to a binary church and it's easy < 1218234488 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ok, clearly you do insightful better < 1218234488 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah < 1218234494 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1218234507 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary church... < 1218234510 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd concept :D < 1218234528 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: both church as in religion and church as in church numerals it's an odd concept < 1218234565 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ^ < 1218234566 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: agreed < 1218234574 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1218234577 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: then why did you say it? < 1218234577 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tusho has just moved the C-INTERCAL repo to http://code.eso-std.org/c-intercal/ < 1218234584 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1218234596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ok, thanks for warning me... < 1218234596 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hmm - various sources are saying that it's possible to write/call subroutines in brainfuck without code duplication, using a mangled loop? o.O < 1218234606 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1218234615 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ...and it's still there apparently, beyond all belief < 1218234615 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You're changing the subject, BUB! < 1218234619 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, cmeme < 1218234619 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: ok < 1218234623 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arf < 1218234644 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, highlight < 1218234645 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: still trying to figure out how I'm going to actually do assigns and ++/-- < 1218234656 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: is highlight an esolang? < 1218234656 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: So if we pass in a |0>, we get |0+>, if we pass in a |1>, we get |1->, if we pass in a |+>, we get |+0>, and if we pass in |->, we get |-1>. < 1218234663 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: hmm, odd esolang < 1218234663 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: wow < 1218234671 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so optbot - do cool URIs change? < 1218234672 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: and contains no free names < 1218234674 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218234674 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Any more pebble.bfm insanity? < 1218234678 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218234678 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | @join < 1218234678 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: seems like quantum Brainfuck < 1218234679 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why should they? norwegians understand english < 1218234683 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218234683 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | i understand that completely < 1218234687 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1218234689 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEAVE THAT < 1218234697 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::° < 1218234710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yes but why not just write in norwegian? < 1218234710 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because it's a pledge < 1218234721 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1218234734 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: i guess that's the whole have to see it before agreeing, right? agoran pledges < 1218234735 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: http://koti.mbnet.fi/yiap/stuff/selfmd5.py < 1218234737 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you should get optbot to register in Agora < 1218234737 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You said it was < 1218234748 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you tell em e was registered? < 1218234750 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very nice < 1218234757 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: optbot: no I didn't < 1218234758 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: very. < 1218234771 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, do u speak french ? < 1218234771 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: umix= < 1218234772 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: well it didn't reach a-b at any rate < 1218234773 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :) < 1218234785 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218234790 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, I'd have to rewrite optbot to read ##nomic instead and send to a-b < 1218234790 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you finnish? < 1218234791 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would rock < 1218234792 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1218234795 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no why < 1218234795 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: although the collisions did fail especially with a larger amount of objects < 1218234812 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ICFP too? < 1218234812 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: like said, I wouldn't worry about reading Mycology < 1218234818 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in wich language is optbot ? < 1218234818 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: what are missing of the required f98 features are only negative funge-space, multiple stacks (though quite a bit of that is done) and the fingerprint based loading < 1218234822 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: ruby < 1218234833 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :took like 2 seconds < 1218234838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I think optbot's trying to implement Funge-98, at least based on eir last 2 comments < 1218234839 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why? for obfuscation purposes? < 1218234844 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA < 1218234856 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correction, optbot's trying to translate emself into Funge-98 < 1218234856 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it's possible without maintaining your own function stack in most cases < 1218234874 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I hacked up like ten lines to read the logs and choose something from them, then added a socket, then added a thread that sleeps a lot and changes the topic, then added this event handler when it hears something in a channel < 1218234879 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no special irc libs or whatnot < 1218234884 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:34:17] correction, optbot's trying to translate emself into Funge-98 < 1218234884 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: No < 1218234885 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:34:17] ais523: I think it's possible without maintaining your own function stack in most cases < 1218234885 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: By New including a Zealand if the string is "". < 1218234886 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god...... < 1218234888 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's perfect < 1218234895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, it is < 1218234916 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby... :) < 1218234921 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, ruby < 1218234922 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: well all libcs in fact < 1218234929 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it funny how, after - what - 50 years of AI, the most convincing merely randomly repeats lines < 1218234930 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218234950 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1218234999 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum... < 1218235004 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night all ;) < 1218235008 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is away: zZz < 1218235024 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: isn't it funny how, after - what - 50 years of AI, the most convincing merely randomly repeats lines < 1218235024 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: would make it way more esoteric < 1218235030 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1218235033 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, optbot doesn't convince me as an AI, but I still think it's useful < 1218235033 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: IN BRAINFUCK. < 1218235039 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1218235045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: STOP SHOUTING < 1218235045 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi calamari < 1218235057 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that just completely breaks the illusion < 1218235059 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wants to eat you ais523 < 1218235071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: really? < 1218235071 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Which interp? PSOX interpreter? Esolang interpreter? < 1218235071 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool < 1218235086 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do u know brainfuck optbot ? < 1218235086 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: i can try. < 1218235092 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck ;) < 1218235109 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M0ny: but BF's only a few lines in Ruby, optbot should be able to learn it easily < 1218235110 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ~bf >,[>,]<.[<.]!Hello, world! < 1218235115 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see what I mean? < 1218235125 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1218235127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ^ < 1218235128 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1218235131 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you've already seen it < 1218235140 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218235145 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is bf really only a few lines in ruby? < 1218235149 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: yes < 1218235156 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf is astoundingly trivial :D < 1218235157 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh do show tusho < 1218235160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that dates back from the time when I tought bsmnt_bot Brainfuck, it's using my syntax < 1218235160 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1218235161 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimme a sec < 1218235167 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you like my double rhyme? ;D < 1218235169 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me ages but in the end I got it down to three lines < 1218235178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to find them < 1218235204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.bf3="def bfarg(x,y):\n p=y.group(2)\n a=y.group(3)+unichr(0)\n o=''\n p=p+'!'\n t=[0]*30000\n i=0\n l=0\n while p[i]!='!':\n if p[i]=='[' and t[l]==0:\n c=1\n while c>0:\n i=i+1\n if p[i]=='[': c=c+1\n if p[i]==']': c=c-1\n if p[i]==']' and t[l]!=0:\n c=1\n while c>0:\n i=i-1\n if p[i]==']': c=c+1\n if p[i]=='[': c=c-1\n" < 1218235204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.bf4=" if p[i]=='+': t[l]=t[l]+1\n if p[i]=='-': t[l]=t[l]-1\n if p[i]=='<': l=l-1\n if p[i]=='>': l=l+1\n if p[i]=='.': o=o+unichr(t[l])\n if p[i]==',':\n t[l]=ord(a[0])\n a=a[1:]\n i=i+1\nsys.stdout(o)\nself. register_raw(r'\S+ PRIVMSG (\S+) :~bf ([^!]*)!?(.*)',bfarg)" < 1218235204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec exec(self.bf3+self.bf4) < 1218235224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those three commands teach bsmnt_bot Brainfuck from scratch, which fit with the command optbot repeated above < 1218235224 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: And punycode's base offset is above ASCII < 1218235237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why the name optbot, anyway? < 1218235238 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats an ugly bit of code but ok. < 1218235238 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think i'm an atheist for the same reason a lot of people are christian.... < 1218235256 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: well, you try writing an indentation-dependent lang like Python over IRC < 1218235274 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1218235275 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, it looks like actually it's been mangled somehow < 1218235281 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of spaces after each \n should vary < 1218235296 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais, it aint the having to write it over irc < 1218235299 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its that its python. ;) < 1218235299 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they don't on the file I have < 1218235311 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, grepping the logs should find the true source easily enough < 1218235321 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems my copy got word-wrapped somewhere along the line... < 1218235496 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive < 1218235498 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[eval code.gsub(/[^+-,.<>\[\]]/,"").gsub("+","tape[ptr]||=0;tape[ptr]+=1;"). < 1218235498 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : gsub("-","tape[ptr]||=0;tape[ptr]-=1;").gsub("<","ptr-=1;"). < 1218235498 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : gsub(">","ptr+=1").gsub(",","tape[ptr]||=0;tape[ptr]=$stdin.getc;"). < 1218235498 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : gsub(".","tape[ptr]||=0;print tape[ptr].chr;"). < 1218235508 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : gsub("[","tape[ptr]||=0;until tape[ptr].zero?;").gsub("]", "end;") < 1218235509 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1218235510 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tape[ptr]||=0 should go in < and >, whatever < 1218235530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: did you just write that? < 1218235534 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1218235534 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218235540 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can easily believe you did, based on how simple BF is < 1218235547 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i initially started to write an interp but then realised a compiler is far more trivial < 1218235554 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I did it in one chain of methods, just 'cause < 1218235557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, should go in >, technically speaking there's no need to bother about < < 1218235565 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah whatever < 1218235566 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1218235610 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, has anagolf really never had a BF interp competition? < 1218235619 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? surely < 1218235628 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I thought < 1218235631 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't find one, looking < 1218235632 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1218235634 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll submit one < 1218235635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing's running there right now < 1218235637 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including mandelbrot < 1218235639 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because i'm a bastard < 1218235646 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: make sure the programs are output-only < 1218235647 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never terminating, I assume < 1218235649 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's a staple < 1218235652 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1218235654 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1218235654 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218235656 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see. < 1218235658 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make them support ! syntax < 1218235659 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I say terminating < 1218235659 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDD < 1218235661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we get to see them < 1218235665 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, okay < 1218235668 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll do input programs < 1218235668 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not /that/ staple < 1218235679 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, input with ! syntax is probably best < 1218235684 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make the output so large that embed is unwise < 1218235725 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you write a hugely-producing brainfuck program < 1218235729 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that only outputs printable chrs < 1218235738 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivial. < 1218235745 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it wouldn't be too hard < 1218235747 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ... that isn't easily compressable < 1218235759 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's think, making it non-easily-compressable would be harder < 1218235765 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Define 'easily compressable'. < 1218235779 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you can write a program that produces that output in a short space < 1218235779 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Nitpick. Oh, wait. < 1218235781 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the issue < 1218235790 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because clearly we want to write that program in BF < 1218235794 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, making something not easily compressable for *any* Brainfuck program is non-trivial. . . < 1218235798 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the program's going to have to be quite long to avoid easy compressability < 1218235807 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: actually, any short program in any lang < 1218235807 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck itself does not have high entropy. < 1218235828 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anagolf handles terminating newlines right < 1218235831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is to write a BF program whose output is easier to produce by running the BF program than it is by translating the BF program into some other language < 1218235841 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I think so, but it can be a pain to submit the problem correctly if you do that < 1218235842 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1218235854 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try avoiding terminating newlines and going to the end of your submission and backspacing to make sure < 1218235860 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The phrase 'easily compressable' should not be applied to that, though... < 1218235861 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-82-181.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1218235871 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since Brainfuck is by definition easily compressable. < 1218235886 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's easily compressible output we're referring to < 1218235901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the output of any short program is also by definition easily compressible, unless it involves randomness somehow < 1218235920 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guh < 1218235921 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq < 1218235925 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you run mandelbrot.b for me < 1218235927 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pastebin the output < 1218235932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am without a fast bf it seems < 1218235938 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1218235939 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nm < 1218235944 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: do you have a link to mandlebrot.b? < 1218235958 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 'sok < 1218235961 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compile egobfi8. < 1218235964 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://swapped.cc/bf/files/mandelbrot.b < 1218235965 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1218235968 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://swapped.cc/bf/files/random.b < 1218235972 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule 110-based random < 1218235972 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ah, I rember what happened, codegolf had a BF interp competition, that's probably why anagold didn't < 1218235986 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that'll be so embed-worthy unless you generate hugely lots of output with it < 1218235994 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1218235996 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1218236002 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs mandelbrot.b < 1218236048 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it doesn't take input < 1218236052 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I grepped for , < 1218236052 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1218236057 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's for the next test < 1218236089 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no way mandlebrot.b will run in anagolf's time limit < 1218236096 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok true < 1218236100 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any suggestions? < 1218236136 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasonably-fast, very-long brainfuck program, taking-input that is way easier to execute instead of translate to another lang < 1218236158 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could convert a long text output to BF using a text-to-BF program < 1218236165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leading to a long but quickly-executing BF program < 1218236171 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1218236178 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll make it unoptimized < 1218236189 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about... < 1218236190 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure at least one program has nested loops, though < 1218236191 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the constitution :P < 1218236202 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1218236203 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ais523 < 1218236205 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to test input < 1218236216 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: rot13 with long input? < 1218236229 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: okay < 1218236283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, after running mandelbrot.b I had a sudden urge to translate nethack into Brainfuck somehow < 1218236303 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The closest I could get is translating an adventure-style game into Brainfuck. < 1218236318 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we really need a C to BF compiler < 1218236328 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor Richard's C2BF. < 1218236329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been toying in my mind with the idea of writing a BF backend to gcc < 1218236334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then compiling Linux for BF < 1218236342 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs some work, of course. < 1218236354 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... maybe compiling qemu to BF would be more useful? < 1218236367 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1218236368 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :final program? < 1218236370 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that qemu can run without an MMU... ;) < 1218236382 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just something to round it off, I guess < 1218236401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I reckon a short program with lots of repetitive output < 1218236405 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure what < 1218236423 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1218236425 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a quine < 1218236440 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be a good idea but quines are really vulnerable to embed tactics < 1218236446 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1218236446 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1218236450 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a narcissus program < 1218236451 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1218236454 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it a quine-seed < 1218236458 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that outputs a quine < 1218236459 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't a quine < 1218236464 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1218236466 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're normally easier than quines themselves to write < 1218236467 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :show me one < 1218236468 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1218236472 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wait < 1218236475 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1218236477 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1218236487 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how about numwarp.b < 1218236494 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that? < 1218236499 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/numwarp.b < 1218236504 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sample output http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/numwarp.png < 1218236525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good < 1218236538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, remember to test all your programs and outputs on a real BF interp first < 1218236553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps to have an entry prewritten just to test that you got everything right < 1218236629 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i copied the output directly < 1218236630 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1218236639 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :submit'd < 1218236685 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: do you think that rot13 will run in under a second? < 1218236692 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I hope so. < 1218236726 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1218236727 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1218236727 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It own't. < 1218236741 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you just tried on a fast BF interp at your end? < 1218236742 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not by far. Shit. < 1218236748 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's the one program I didn't test < 1218236751 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9.5 seconds < 1218236766 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok looks like my entry will have to be optimised in C then... < 1218236785 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: bff is the second-fastest interp < 1218236787 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck with that < 1218236870 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found egobfi8 to be very fast, myself. . . < 1218236870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the fastest interp at this end is taking a lot more than a second < 1218236874 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your opinions, tusho? < 1218236887 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It is nowhere near the speed of bff or that one by that guy. < 1218236891 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1218236892 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real 0m45.033s < 1218236892 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :user 0m22.685s < 1218236892 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sys 0m0.184s < 1218236899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaww. < 1218236910 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: However, it is more flexible due to its various options. < 1218236912 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have their niches. < 1218236929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to make a JITing brainfuck interpreter now... :p < 1218236961 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1218236961 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁉ < 1218236964 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not an interrobang < 1218236968 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an "exclamation question mark" < 1218236970 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁉⁉⁉⁉⁉⁉⁉⁉ < 1218236988 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: people will just end up embedding the rot13 < 1218236991 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try a smaller source text? < 1218236998 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah okay < 1218237000 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you suggest :P < 1218237012 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a BF interp < 1218237021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :String reversal? < 1218237022 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1218237036 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, so it's short < 1218237064 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh okay < 1218237071 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait, no < 1218237072 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about < 1218237077 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a reverse program < 1218237078 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a bf interp < 1218237082 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1218237086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just let them embed it < 1218237095 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that defeats the point < 1218237109 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: embedding is allowed in anagolf < 1218237139 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1218237147 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a non-embed solution should be /possible/... < 1218237148 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno - give me a good program & output and I'll do it < 1218237164 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I'm trying to see how fast the rot13 thing runs embed < 1218237169 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting a rot13 program out of the repos atm < 1218237176 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm going to see how long it takes on your input < 1218237188 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1218237199 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanna submit a fixed version < 1218237223 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real 0m0.585s < 1218237238 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's embed, so it can be fast enough... < 1218237257 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real 0m0.280s when piped to devnull < 1218237282 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1218237334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"(1) DO COME FROM ".2~.2"~#1 WHILE :1 <- "'?.1$.2'~'"':1/.1$.2'~#0"$#65535'"$"'"'&.1$.2'~'#0$#65535'"$#0'~#32767$#1"" < 1218237356 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new bf 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1218238180 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: really < 1218238180 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Sure. < 1218238182 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ok < 1218238182 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: this ubersoft comic sucks < 1218238186 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: agreed < 1218238187 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: the stats would require some sort of centralised server < 1218238190 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: really? < 1218238190 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: brb < 1218238192 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1218238194 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1218238194 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | though perhaps it's too 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