< 1219449908 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone in here upload files to the esoteric archive? < 1219451564 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1219451569 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1219451679 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1219451743 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219452096 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I don't think it's perlish < 1219452524 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219452525 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219452526 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219452526 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219452527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219452554 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1219452554 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1219452554 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1219452554 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@64-91-51-132.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1219452554 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1219452638 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219452639 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219452639 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219452640 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219452640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219452661 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1219452661 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1219452661 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1219452661 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@64-91-51-132.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1219452661 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1219456628 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1219458597 0 :psygnisf_!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1219458597 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1219460618 0 :siobhain!n=siobhain@75-104-20-8.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1219461854 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. I have so few points in Hideous Counter. < 1219461893 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1219461896 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :psygnisfive < 1219461915 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relatively, that is. < 1219461929 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface < 1219461935 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you participate in an experiment? < 1219462253 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1219462263 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the AI Box experiment. < 1219462293 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I got about 4000 points in just a few minutes. < 1219462295 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no < 1219462303 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a serious experiment < 1219462329 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A skilled person would be able to get... oh, 100 clicks per second without cheating. < 1219462339 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using JavaScript, yes, but not cheating. < 1219462344 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of experiment, then? < 1219462363 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1219462367 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like you to try and formulate a grammar for english. < 1219462371 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219462492 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a thing would be rather large. < 1219462543 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it okay if I design a new language with few grammatical constructs? < 1219462576 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1219462582 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1219462592 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you dont have to do a whole grammar < 1219462599 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want your perspective < 1219462618 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ::= . ::= "q" . ::= "q" . ::= . < 1219462626 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That actually covers much of English. < 1219462631 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesnt :P < 1219462639 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont make me smack you :p < 1219462644 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does. :-P < 1219462651 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how >| < 1219462687 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sentence has a subject (noun) and a predicate (verb). A noun can be formed from a sentence, a verb can be added to a noun, and a noun can be added to a verb. < 1219462705 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okfirstly < 1219462706 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"q"? < 1219462733 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :secondly, lets not call congolmerations of things just noun or verb < 1219462742 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it has more than one thing on the right, call it a x phrase < 1219462764 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"q" is a word. < 1219462779 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An abbreviation of the Spanish word "que", meaning "that". < 1219462788 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well your grammar is already wrong :) < 1219462814 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :S -> N V, N -> q S, N -> N q V, V -> V N < 1219462820 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is wrong for a number of reasons :P < 1219462833 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firstly, it contains no terminal symbols except Q < 1219462834 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replace all instances of with and all instances of with , then. < 1219462849 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :secondly, V is non-terminating! < 1219462885 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :secondly, S is recursively non-terminating < 1219462905 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thirdly* < 1219462926 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're going to have more words than just q. Languages are generally open-ended. < 1219462941 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but even so < 1219462944 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your rules dont worry < 1219462950 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even letting q be any word < 1219462975 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about even letting q be any word? < 1219462987 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with q as a variable for any word, the grammar wont work < 1219463024 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by "won't work"? < 1219463029 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wont work! < 1219463032 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it produces no sentences. < 1219463042 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its non-terminating. < 1219463055 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has infinite recursion atleast three different places < 1219463064 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-optional infinite recursion < 1219463079 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog." "Fox q is-quick q is-brown jumps dog q is-lazy." < 1219463091 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it has no support for "the" or "over" at the moment. < 1219463106 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1219463121 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fox q is-quick q is-brown... what? < 1219463138 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the sentence in q-language. < 1219463151 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firstly, no its not :) < 1219463164 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :secondly, this language isnt english :P < 1219463197 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get the feeling you dont know how to describe grammars with a BNF CFG < 1219463211 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firstly, yes it is. Secondly, okay, replace each word with its q-language equivalent. < 1219463218 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1219463224 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how did you get "Fox"? < 1219463226 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cant. < 1219463232 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, okay. < 1219463240 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your language has only non-terminals < 1219463243 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which have infinite recursion < 1219463247 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and arbitrary terminals < 1219463254 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if Fox was one of those terminals < 1219463254 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ::= . ::= "q" . ::= "q" . ::= . ::= terminal noun. ::= terminal verb. < 1219463268 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1219463275 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why "q"? < 1219463305 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, this isnt english :P < 1219463319 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Languages have arbitrary terminals. < 1219463327 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but what is "q"? < 1219463334 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"q" is a word. < 1219463338 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a specific word? < 1219463341 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a variable? < 1219463345 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, any word? < 1219463350 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a specific word. The word "q". < 1219463357 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, why? :P < 1219463381 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because when I think of the word "that" in other languages, I think "q". < 1219463404 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1219463406 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1219463431 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You asked me why it was "q", didn't you? I needed a word for "that"; "q" was what I thought of. < 1219463469 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need a word for "that"? < 1219463504 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think i see what you mean < 1219463517 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that" as in "that you have brown hair upsets people" < 1219463529 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok thats interesting < 1219463530 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1219463536 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt handle english :) < 1219463536 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because otherwise, there would be nothing to fill the role of adjectives, and you couldn't say "I wish that there were ice cream on my head." < 1219463544 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're missing adjectives and adverbs and other things < 1219463555 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adjectives can be replaced with verbs. < 1219463562 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats not english < 1219463571 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question was can you provide a grammar of ENGLISH < 1219463580 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a grammar of your particular reworking of english < 1219463580 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite true. < 1219463675 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you dont want to do it, just say so < 1219463684 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you do, then you have to be serious :P < 1219463691 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, let's start basic. < 1219463722 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1219463734 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These sorts of things exist: ::= , ::= "some special word" , and dropping pieces of phrases so that they can be put elsewhere. < 1219463737 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've started off decently enough to the extent that it seems to account for very simple things < 1219463753 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its too limited < 1219463777 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like many others, I like to ignore the fact that many English sentences don't fit my model. < 1219463788 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1219463792 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmon, be serious < 1219463796 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1219463797 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pm < 1219465807 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, someone write a Thue program to convert things like es:en,{I am not worth very much money.} to things like es,{No valo por mucho dinero.} < 1219465858 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'll probably be going to bed nowabouts. < 1219465893 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1219465897 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219473236 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.cust.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1219473696 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | that's not what i'm saying < 1219475898 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1219475954 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@user-89-108-231-128.mobile.playmobile.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1219475963 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://asiekierka.boot-land.net/screebles/?id=26 - 1KBWC Screeble card! < 1219476880 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219477297 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see a 1KBWC ircbot < 1219477305 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cards will be just text though < 1219477349 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A global library, from which everyone can take a card for play, and a local one, from which you can only take < 1219477352 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll define it like < 1219477381 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addlocal "No Operationify" "Put the card on your opponent's deck and shuffle the deck" < 1219477382 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1219477402 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addglobal "Screeble Card" "Punch the stickman. blablabla" < 1219477406 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also do < 1219477428 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addglobal "Pictured Card" "Added image" "http://example.com/some_picture.jpg" < 1219477431 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can also be gif or png < 1219477444 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addlocal works the same, only it adds to the local deck, not the global < 1219477519 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Jesus loves you" < 1219478399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1219478400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1219478476 0 :Defenser!n=harbl@r208.ip5.netikka.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1219479453 0 :Defe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1219484526 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host234-89-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1219485535 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@k-244.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1219486316 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1219487593 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1219488485 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1219491820 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.79.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219491936 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1219491937 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hideou.se/counter/ < 1219491947 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1219491948 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :top person as 89715 clicks :O < 1219491958 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*has < 1219491959 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The boggles minds. < 1219492429 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@k-121.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1219493577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, indeed it does < 1219493582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be scripted < 1219493587 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1219493590 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know who Aether is < 1219493600 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he may have used JS < 1219493600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, someone with a broken finger? < 1219493606 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think its feasable that he actually clicked < 1219493609 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well yeah I thought about that too < 1219493619 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure which, but I don't think he'd have JS'd it < 1219493626 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I noted I didn't know enough js to actually do that < 1219493629 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't generall seem to tbe the type < 1219493655 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: javascript:function x(){increment_counter();setTimeout(x,10);};x(); < 1219493662 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty trivial. Pretty trivial to detect, too. < 1219493688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, unless you do random pause in a certain interval? < 1219493712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie, average of 8 clicks per second +/- 3 or whatever < 1219493720 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sure, but then i'd notice that you never, ever stopped. < 1219493736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, with random pauses < 1219493743 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, but you'd still never stop < 1219493747 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd never take a break < 1219493749 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1219493754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well random breaks? < 1219493812 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you mean like it'd stop every 15 mins or so for a bit? < 1219493825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, or even every 5 minutes < 1219493827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1219493832 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you do all of that, then you're a sad idiot who has nothing better to do than game a silly little website by showing off your 1337 javascript skillz. < 1219493841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, haha :) < 1219493842 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I laugh at your wasted effort. < 1219493846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed I don't know javascript < 1219493859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :human simulator :P < 1219494863 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :human misconceived as a bot is much more impressive than the other way around < 1219495296 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | switching to linux < 1219495374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, don't you have better things to do that breaking your finger? < 1219495443 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use two hands < 1219495498 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh god i'm fast < 1219495659 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, let's show BlehTehBleh < 1219495707 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thousand to go < 1219495924 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: pfft < 1219495928 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noob < 1219495932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6969 is trivial :P < 1219495939 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20001 is where it's at! < 1219495947 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89715 < 1219495951 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ... < 1219495954 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1219495957 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not where it's at! < 1219495961 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89715 is totally uncool. < 1219495965 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is 21100. < 1219495965 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1219495967 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm totally winning. < 1219495997 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to take dreq down < 1219495999 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*drew < 1219496090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1219496113 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yer all peanuts < 1219496137 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for dividebyzero to face his destiny and shit < 1219496292 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1219496311 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shtetl is dead. soon < 1219496385 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/0 started playing, that was scary < 1219496541 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know like 90% of these people ha < 1219496551 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wow oklopol < 1219496553 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are fast :D < 1219496940 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1219496946 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1219496948 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho < 1219496949 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you get 13000? < 1219496950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1219496954 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were at like 6000 < 1219496959 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pressed the button a few times. < 1219496964 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you use a script :| < 1219496966 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a pianist < 1219496967 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1219496970 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1219496972 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just a machine then < 1219496972 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1219496973 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to script that, except for python < 1219496995 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm a mean button-pressing machine < 1219497016 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1219497026 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if i should own that beatles guy < 1219497045 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1219497050 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though if he starts just give up < 1219497062 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's incredibly hyperactive and is insanely OCD < 1219497068 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to get him while he sleeps. :p < 1219497088 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm the only one playing atm < 1219497094 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1219497094 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1219497098 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you're not < 1219497099 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hannah is too < 1219497100 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: remember < 1219497103 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more than 35 people < 1219497105 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just the highscores < 1219497130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i'll make it show everyone for 10 secs < 1219497177 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hm, nobody else is clicking thouhg < 1219497194 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1219497202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make it show the logged in user's points < 1219497211 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1219497214 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true but why bother < 1219497218 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000 clicks is pretty darn easy < 1219497222 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and after that just look at the high scores < 1219497242 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :highscores? < 1219497246 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 'top clickers' < 1219497248 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1219497253 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the best 35, or everyone over 1000? < 1219497256 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :best 35 < 1219497260 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need to get over 1000 atm < 1219497268 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not a great need < 1219497429 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, but if you make it show the player's points, it will make sense even after decades!. < 1219497443 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's just sheet of numbers and names with button < 1219497468 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that's coming in v4 < 1219497469 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kthx < 1219497470 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1219497472 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1219497472 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :overtake zebra < 1219497474 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and win moneys < 1219497477 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219497484 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you're next < 1219497487 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even notive < 1219497489 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*notice < 1219497494 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then dave, hannah should be pretty easy, emillion too, procyon < 1219497496 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all very close) < 1219497501 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then alan redgown will be shiethard < 1219497506 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anya quite hard < 1219497510 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain almost impossible < 1219497517 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blackbird as hard as alan redgown < 1219497520 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqrt kind of hard < 1219497523 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and aether impossible. < 1219497682 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew. < 1219497794 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@user-89-108-226-100.mobile.playmobile.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1219497795 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaysirs < 1219497807 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the first Animathed Screeble done < 1219497814 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 seconds < 1219497821 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :352x288 resolution < 1219497824 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quality: questionable < 1219497834 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka < 1219497836 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll like the counter < 1219497837 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hideou.se/counter/ < 1219497963 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can i hold f1 < 1219498047 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does f1 do < 1219498051 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends < 1219498061 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the button there isn't a real button. < 1219498074 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a span with fancy styling. < 1219498078 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEPENDS i saids < 1219498078 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: basically < 1219498080 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't work < 1219498080 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :said* < 1219498091 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you'd be more clear < 1219498092 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many hits do i have now < 1219498092 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'd tell youw < 1219498093 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1219498096 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1219498103 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: if the thing is spinning < 1219498105 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next to the button < 1219498107 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's incrementing < 1219498108 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not < 1219498110 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is happening < 1219498114 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F1 is mapped to "Click" in my key->to->action thingie for 3D movie maker < 1219498119 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happens to work in IE too < 1219498132 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Then stop immediately < 1219498135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or face a point reset < 1219498154 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rule is: You have to exert reasonable effort for each increment. < 1219498160 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hitting a key or clicking a button counts. < 1219498170 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest tapping both enter keys (regular and numpad) in quick succession. < 1219498173 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reset my points then :P < 1219498198 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know < 1219498202 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make it 2 buttons < 1219498213 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First you press the left one, then the right, then the left, then the right < 1219498228 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failing the order will result in -100 points, of if you have <100 points, zeroing it < 1219498252 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Your account has been removed. < 1219498260 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can remake it if you won't cheat. < 1219498265 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1219498335 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I make a hardware clicker that recognizes every stomp on it as "Enter"? < 1219498347 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i must stomp at it with a bit of power to recognize an "Enter" < 1219498360 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1219498372 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not cheating. It's "making-your-work-a-thousand-times-harder", like, the reverse of cheating < 1219498376 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as reasonable effort and the intention to cause an increment (not idly) is there, it's valid. < 1219498419 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so Hideous(e) < 1219498430 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more pointless than Screebles. Kudos! < 1219498493 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hideou.se is a friend's site < 1219498498 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote that thing a year ago < 1219498502 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put it on there because he wanted me to :P < 1219498506 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He submitted it to digg a year back < 1219498511 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It got to the fisrt item on the front page < 1219498514 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with over 600 diggs < 1219498528 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: look at the clicker high scorez < 1219498549 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: why don't you < 1219498562 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucker < 1219498589 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219498875 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you back yet? < 1219498967 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, brb, must put the Animathed Screeble #0 at YT < 1219499014 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But first < 1219499020 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make the start a little (10 frames) longer < 1219499033 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1219499036 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get to #1 < 1219499042 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will send you a cheque < 1219499045 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for £20. < 1219499124 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: deal? < 1219499524 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1219499655 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: sure :) < 1219499676 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not just now, later tonight < 1219499759 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1219499797 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.79.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219499927 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what do you finns use as a currency anyhoo < 1219499939 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :€ < 1219499976 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1219500025 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1219500029 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy europeans < 1219500046 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so that's 25 euros, cool. < 1219500302 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yay. Uploading an AnimaTHed Screeble :P < 1219500331 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1219500356 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.79.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219500369 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linkinius decided my trial should be over < 1219500371 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1219500379 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1219500385 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it did :P < 1219500391 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.79.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219500404 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now < 1219500406 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm back to colloquy :D < 1219500408 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that GRAND? < 1219500474 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1219500510 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1219500511 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is. < 1219500592 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly. < 1219500599 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Ok i'll stop. < 1219500608 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's currently processing that screeble thing < 1219500620 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1219500623 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's there < 1219500628 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me a link! < 1219500631 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be jewtastic. < 1219500634 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa_p_cxNU_w < 1219500639 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOPMOTIONED < 1219500646 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm... Jews... < 1219500669 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it. < 1219500680 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not < 1219500697 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, lol subliminal < 1219500727 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1219500728 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"And then-" < 1219500739 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.79.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219500741 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1219500752 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZOUNDS < 1219500772 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1219500772 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :honest < 1219500773 0 :megatron!n=moozilla@64-91-51-132.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1219500778 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm where is ais? < 1219500785 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SATURDAY < 1219500786 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SATURDAY < 1219500786 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SATURDAY < 1219500787 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SATURDAY < 1219500787 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SATURDAY < 1219500792 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SATUSHO < 1219500792 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SATUSHO < 1219500792 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SATUSHO < 1219500793 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SATUSHO < 1219500793 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SATUSHO < 1219500808 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219500808 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1219500809 0 :megatron!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1219500810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, right, thought it was Sunday he wasn't here at < 1219500821 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's here on neither saturday nor sunday. < 1219500827 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1219500832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1219500837 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to make another animathed screeble < 1219500840 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What could it be about < 1219500852 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1219500852 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! < 1219500853 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physics+Boxes=P4WNED < 1219501127 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-55-60.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1219501376 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1219501389 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needed to mount the whiteboard for animathed screebles in a "worse but temporary" way < 1219501543 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: also i want a "clicks per second average during last minute" < 1219501550 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: dudey. v4. < 1219501785 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that was an idea for v4 < 1219501800 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta admit my arms do hurt a bit < 1219501813 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think it's mainly the fact the comp is in my lap < 1219501854 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: v4 will have to be megaoptimized < 1219501858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to fuck with httpd.conf < 1219501861 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to turn off logging < 1219501865 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the database log is the only one < 1219501876 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to set up mysql caches like fuck, too < 1219501883 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I want it to sustain with all these features < 1219501896 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :php'll have to go too, need something fast with a non-cgi model < 1219502043 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wow. you are a hero < 1219502049 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were at like 30 beforehand < 1219502062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, mysql? bah < 1219502065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :postgresql! < 1219502075 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. 32 frames done < 1219502083 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: apps I use require it kthxbai suck a dick. or keep complaining, whatever < 1219502101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, so do you prefer mysql or postgresql? < 1219502106 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :postgre < 1219502112 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not running both mysql and postgresql < 1219502113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah good < 1219502118 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 256mb, etc. < 1219502128 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, the counter doesn't really need referential integrity. < 1219502129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right I see < 1219502135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs speed and iirc you can get mysql to be faster than postgres < 1219502136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true hah < 1219502140 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you let it corrupt like hell < 1219502173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what about mnesia? < 1219502175 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :55, getting there < 1219502201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, ? < 1219502202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :35000 < 1219502207 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: tbh I'm not sure _what_ I should use < 1219502217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, eh? < 1219502218 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13000 till next one :< < 1219502219 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a persistent integer that is incredibly fast to increment, < 1219502227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1219502234 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a log of {user,datetime,count_at_time} < 1219502236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, battery backed RAM :P < 1219502241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the integer < 1219502242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1219502244 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I need a database of users with simple info < 1219502246 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a way to cache statistics < 1219502252 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anya is going down now. < 1219502255 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the log < 1219502263 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, clicks in 24 hours < 1219502264 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1219502267 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without querying it all the time < 1219502294 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, but still what is your opinion on mnesia? < 1219502312 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug*. It looks neat. < 1219502315 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno if it'd be good for this. < 1219502330 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really the important thing is that I can do loads of crazy queries on the log, and also cache those to hell < 1219502332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well it is erlang only < 1219502336 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes I know < 1219502339 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i just realized i could watch tv shows while pressing the button < 1219502341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess that won't work for you < 1219502348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1219502349 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but then if someone starts < 1219502350 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that £20 is mine! :P < 1219502351 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to go faster < 1219502355 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you won't know < 1219502358 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're watching a tv show < 1219502362 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fullscreen < 1219502364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1219502365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1219502366 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on tv either. < 1219502370 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a tv < 1219502389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, mnesia in-memory db but that is disk backed < 1219502393 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*maybe* < 1219502404 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'd prefer not to tie myself to erlang, really < 1219502406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you need a lot of ram < 1219502411 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause I'd have to learn erlang and stuff :D < 1219502411 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1219502412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you said you didn't have < 1219502413 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :256mb of ram < 1219502426 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of which 171mb is used. < 1219502432 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1219502432 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1219502436 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1219502439 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :151mb is used < 1219502440 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 102mb is free < 1219502460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I see your point < 1219502467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm.... < 1219502523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, for that persisting number, write out the current number every 20 seconds to a file? < 1219502532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use two files and rotate them if you wish < 1219502535 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: more than 20 seconds, how about every minute < 1219502539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, fine < 1219502540 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, that seems reasonable < 1219502545 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about crashes though < 1219502549 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say it gets on digg < 1219502550 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1219502555 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's incrementing 100 every update < 1219502556 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(really happened) < 1219502556 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1219502558 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it crashes < 1219502562 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it loses a minutes worth of clicks. < 1219502568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well you would loose the last minute one and have to rebuild from user list? < 1219502569 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6000 clicks. < 1219502578 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that could take _hours_ < 1219502588 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you expect that many users? < 1219502600 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's not like it's going to go down < 1219502606 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so after a year, the log will be _freaking huge_ < 1219502611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1219502615 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rebuilding from the users table is a map reduce < 1219502621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :store on the db: {user, click count} < 1219502624 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1219502624 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1219502625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? < 1219502628 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapReduce clicks (+) users < 1219502632 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even so < 1219502641 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: say it takes just 10 minutes < 1219502647 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1219502648 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in those 10 minutes, it'll drop off digg. < 1219502657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two distributed nodes < 1219502660 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1219502662 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'm not using erlang < 1219502664 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in different data centers < 1219502668 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, as if < 1219502675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, no but you can do such stuff in C too, MPI iirc < 1219502685 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :different data centers = lol < 1219502694 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this machine is a virtualized Xen machine < 1219502696 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a VPS :) < 1219502701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right.... < 1219502704 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$20/mo, I'm not buying more shit just for a counter < 1219502705 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219502712 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :80-something frames for AnimaTHed Screeble #1 (the one before was #0) < 1219502712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehhe < 1219502729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, so... what are you going to do? < 1219502732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a counter costing like $1,000 a month would be hilarious though < 1219502740 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: dunno, probably use benchmarking tools to fuck it < 1219502743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, counter-cluster? < 1219502746 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pick something that works decently < 1219502747 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1219502749 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219502752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a game < 1219502754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why < 1219502763 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :counter-cluster... instead of clustering things together < 1219502766 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to uncluster them < 1219502768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1219502769 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1219502773 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-puzzle-bobble < 1219502778 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait sounds like counter strike < 1219502783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why it sounded like a game < 1219502791 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: puzzle bobble: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Puzzle_Bobble.png < 1219502798 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to shoot the things into three and then they drop, essentially < 1219502800 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd be like... < 1219502802 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they start clustered < 1219502806 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to knock them apart < 1219502812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sounds like frozen bubble < 1219502815 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1219502815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or looks like rather < 1219502817 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frozen bubble is a clone < 1219502819 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1219502827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I tried the clone < 1219502832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really not my type of game < 1219502857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are more clones, I saw someone playing a flash version of it on some "free games site" recently < 1219502866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yeti bubbles" I think it was called < 1219502870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1219502880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1219502899 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what extra features do you plan to add? < 1219502912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means the current way isn't enough < 1219502915 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: user profiles with lots of graph porn and statistics < 1219502923 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :general graph porn and statistics and listings < 1219502930 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like highest "atm" and highest all time, etc) < 1219502936 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe rounds < 1219502938 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where like < 1219502944 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the person with the most when the counter gets to N wins < 1219502949 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then gets their name displayed in the "Winners" < 1219502951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean rate of clickage over the average 24-hour period and such? < 1219502952 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh, a faster UI < 1219502957 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: stuff like that, yeah < 1219502961 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also < 1219502964 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not based on ajax polls < 1219502964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1219502964 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now < 1219502970 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes 3 ajax requests < 1219502972 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every .5 seconds < 1219502975 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which do a database request each < 1219502983 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and each increment is 3 database queries < 1219502984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yikes" < 1219502988 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll base it on comet/push < 1219502994 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and optimize the increment < 1219502999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you know how bad this is from an ergonomic perspective? < 1219503010 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: What, clicking something repeatedly? < 1219503012 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. :) < 1219503014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes... < 1219503017 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working for the RSI medication companies. < 1219503020 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You got me. < 1219503022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you should put up a warning about it < 1219503028 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, this way, people get RSI < 1219503032 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they go to the companies for treatment < 1219503036 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I get a load of cash! < 1219503048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, thankfully you can click using enter after selecting the button with tab in my browser < 1219503058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit better < 1219503062 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: its not a button any more < 1219503065 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just a span with styling < 1219503068 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but enter is actually coded in < 1219503070 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a JS event < 1219503078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what will happen on enter? < 1219503078 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, it's not a button any more because otherwise you could hold enter. < 1219503080 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can't any more. < 1219503082 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: increment < 1219503087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it does the same? < 1219503097 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, if you notice you'll notice that if you hold enter < 1219503099 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only does it once < 1219503105 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cause my coding checks for keyup < 1219503108 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it lets enter do it again < 1219503117 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if anyone needs a WARNING telling them that repeatedly clicking something over and over again gives them RSI they deserve it :D < 1219503125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, can't tab select it any more < 1219503128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor use enter < 1219503128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1219503132 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: if you click the document < 1219503134 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use enter < 1219503136 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :click in the space < 1219503212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I got 2 keyboard around :) < 1219503225 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it work now, though? :P < 1219503237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does < 1219503243 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1219503255 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you'll notice that even though the fake-button is just a regular bit of text < 1219503257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't select the text < 1219503265 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Reason being: double clicking selects word/line in most browsers) < 1219503267 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it was distracting. < 1219503278 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you look at the source you'll see the non-standard properties I used to do that. :P < 1219503302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is just for firefox < 1219503311 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, opera and safari too < 1219503315 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note .button:selection < 1219503316 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit down < 1219503321 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno about konqueror < 1219503325 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :webkit(safari) is based on khtml < 1219503328 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it probably works < 1219503353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I don't plan to do more than that < 1219503356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not good < 1219503356 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm done with #1 < 1219503358 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :upping soon < 1219503408 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1219503658 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another vjn member started playing < 1219503700 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who < 1219503704 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coolness < 1219503710 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1219503721 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's dropped off the high scores? < 1219503723 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's the master of this kind of games < 1219503729 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1219503730 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1219503733 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, 17 and rising < 1219503750 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and definitely manual, but he can play this for hours on end < 1219503944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, there? < 1219504133 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1219504140 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@user-89-108-238-139.mobile.playmobile.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1219504142 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1219504153 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to upload the next animaTHed Screeble soon < 1219504184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said that before < 1219504273 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2112529755533998573&q=cube+in+color&total=547&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0/ I like this movie. < 1219504295 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this one meant i'm going to upload it sooner < 1219504299 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And i'm upping it right now. < 1219504327 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*DING* UPLOADED! Now let the YouTube server process the AnimaTHion. As the name of "animation" costs 2x more than the name of "comic < 1219504328 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1219504406 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one had 171 frames (including duplicates) and was at 15 FPS, not 24 FPS. 24 FPS animation is pain anyway and it doesn't give that much improvement from 15 FPS anyway < 1219504413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it costs? < 1219504420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck are you talking about? < 1219504433 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tusho. < 1219504440 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking to tusho and his weird imagination. < 1219504445 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a joke he made up < 1219504448 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't even funny < 1219504462 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1219504463 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1219504464 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3QUGjRfLCk < 1219504475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he is 12 years old, not very odd < 1219504485 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: rodgerthegreat argued with me for ages < 1219504488 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about how what I made weren't comics < 1219504496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with him < 1219504499 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how about my continued calling them comics was "denigerating the classification" < 1219504511 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is true of course, you have to pay £5,000,00 < 1219504514 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*000 < 1219504516 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to call something a comic < 1219504522 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, AnMaster, I am 13. < 1219504532 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he turned 13 yesterday < 1219504537 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where've you been anmaster < 1219504554 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuck in a time loop somewhere < 1219504562 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn time loops < 1219504585 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already rembered you saying that < 1219504589 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*remembered < 1219504625 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes me wonder, what is the opposite of deja vu < 1219504645 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uv ajed < 1219504685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION beats the word "opposite" with a mallet for obnoxious ambiguity < 1219504709 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it can be ajed uv too < 1219504755 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, english has changed a lot, oerjan. < 1219504771 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soz < 1219504772 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were only gone for a few hours our time, but since you left and got stuck in the time loop < 1219504783 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... How's that new animathed screeble (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3QUGjRfLCk) < 1219504784 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's be a revolution and a significant reform of the language < 1219504788 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it better than #0 < 1219504790 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i speak in the old tongue for your convenience < 1219504815 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, that was AnMaster. my time loop is far more sinister than that. < 1219504898 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its still happened! < 1219504985 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's unhappened. you are looking at it from the wrong direction < 1219505008 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im look back, into the future! < 1219505020 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of < 1219505052 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that not every culture/language conceptualizes the past as "behind" and the future as "ahead"? < 1219505082 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even English! tho its rare that we think of it in these alternate terms. < 1219505266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, ah right < 1219505326 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1219505330 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1219505338 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :language is crazy D: < 1219505345 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1219505637 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi! oklopol! < 1219505826 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Argh, the pain! Au chocolat!" < 1219505867 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :double.c:11: warning: declaration does not declare anything < 1219505868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1219505896 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll teach you to use c < 1219505927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, not my code < 1219505938 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? :P < 1219505967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some code that ais wrote yesterday quickly to show how some stuff was done (addition of two int to simulate a long by hand, needed for something I'm doing) < 1219505976 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wellnowwhat.net/ < 1219505981 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check out the poem there < 1219505984 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway found the issue < 1219505995 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a poetic proof of the halting problem! :D < 1219505998 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, I don't like poems, I prefer prose < 1219506011 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prose is a kind of poetry. < 1219506015 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be so ignorant. < 1219506039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in I prefer normal text < 1219506046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prose may not be the right English word then < 1219506050 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what you mean by prose < 1219506052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prosa in Swedish though < 1219506052 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: AnMaster doesn't like art, basically. < 1219506058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure I like art < 1219506060 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether in code or other form < 1219506061 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean normal speech < 1219506064 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe he likes paintings < 1219506064 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not rhyme and meter < 1219506068 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's boring < 1219506070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't like poems, I prefer normal text < 1219506071 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a copout definition of art < 1219506079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : you mean normal speech not rhyme and meter <-- exactly < 1219506090 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i hate to tell you but < 1219506095 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prose can be poetry too. < 1219506099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is what is called prosa in Swedish at least < 1219506101 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: how ironic - [[for predicting the acts of computing mamchines.]] < 1219506109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, depends on what you mean < 1219506135 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesnt. lol. < 1219506200 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prose < 1219506242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, as in the Swedish meaning of the word prosa < 1219506251 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what I'm referring to < 1219506257 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry#Prose_poetry < 1219506270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, maybe it have a different meaning in English, fine < 1219506278 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think it does :) < 1219506291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, well what word do you suggest for it then? < 1219506298 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prose! < 1219506724 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol! < 1219506805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive! < 1219506810 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pm < 1219506835 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@j-167.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1219507001 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-045-015.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1219507673 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposed openbsd security expert has never heard of entity encoding HTML: http://bofh.ucs.ualberta.ca/javascript-sucks.html < 1219507674 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discuss. < 1219507797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what that page is trying to say... < 1219507800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes no sense < 1219508266 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :") instruction unloads the semantics for a given fingerprint from any or all of the instructions A to Z (even if that fingerprint had never been loaded before)." < 1219508272 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could someone clarify what it means to unload something that's never been loaded? < 1219508371 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funktio: probably NOP, although i have no idea why explicitly say that if it means nothing < 1219508407 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ok, thanks < 1219508817 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funktio, oklopol: no < 1219508856 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what it means is that if fingerprint FOO defines A, B, and C, and fingerprint BAR defines B and C, then if you load FOO and then unload BAR, you are left with the A from FOO < 1219508933 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1219508959 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well doesn't really say eithey of those < 1219508968 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah that's a more likely interpretation < 1219508976 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an example below which clarifies it, IIRC < 1219509155 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I will owe you £20 won't I < 1219509162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, does mycology test LONG? < 1219509186 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: dunno, dunno < 1219509190 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck is that alan? < 1219509208 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do i just have to reach the top for a second? < 1219509211 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: this file called mycology.b98 exists, and it prints this stuff called 'text' to this thing called 'stdout', and that text says what it does < 1219509220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah true < 1219509309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well seems like it doesn't < 1219509360 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alan redgown is from the same place as all of them < 1219509363 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1219509805 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1219509972 0 :dogface_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1219510049 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: and where is that? < 1219510053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is he so fucking fast < 1219510059 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: a forum < 1219510062 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's magical < 1219510294 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :magical? < 1219510516 0 :Ilari!n=user@a88-112-63-168.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1219510986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no response from Mike yet regarding LONG < 1219510990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I found other issues in it < 1219511005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :docs say "low" and "high" word < 1219511018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but which is the most significant one < 1219511193 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# OneDayIClickedThenIThoughtThisIsCoolClickingIsSoCoolWhatCouldBeCoolerWellNothingCanThatIsHowIThoughtThenIFoundThisCoolPageAndStartedClickingItWasReallyCoolItIsHardToDescribeHowCoolItWasThenIDecidedToSpendMyWholeLifeClickingItIsSoCool (3129) < 1219511195 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking stupid name < 1219511196 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::q < 1219511634 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219511656 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is it < 1219511695 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap01.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1219511699 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1219511710 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the last one on http://hideou.se/counter/ < 1219511715 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and alan redgown is at 100001! < 1219511739 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tusho < 1219511741 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you win < 1219511743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't stay long, though < 1219511747 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this place closes at 7, and the door to my department is /still/ broken < 1219511749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw some workmen trying to fix it a couple of weeks ago too, so it isn't as if they aren't trying < 1219511766 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# OneDayIClickedThenIThoughtThisIsCoolClickingIsSoCoolWhatCouldBeCoolerWellNothingCanThatIsHowIThoughtThenIFoundThisCoolPageAndStartedClickingItWasReallyCoolItIsHardToDescribeHowCoolItWasThenIDecidedToSpendMyWholeLifeClickingItIsSoCool (5980) < 1219511768 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might crop that name < 1219511799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even on your top 35 list... < 1219511813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1219511816 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got butted off it seems < 1219511823 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"EDIT2: And now I leave the most pointless website ever. It really is a huge waste of time, and I don't plan to do it regularly. Eventually people may get over 1m clicks, but I don't plan to be a part of it. oklopol, whoever you are, good luck on bumping me from my spot. It should happen pretty soon. :)" - Alan Redgown < 1219511828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pointless trying to play on that website if you can't see how well you did < 1219511836 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well you have 2008 clicks < 1219511839 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: where's that comment made? < 1219511845 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any less than 2410 clicks is peanuts anyway < 1219511845 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more than 2008 now... < 1219511846 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial to get < 1219511852 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, might as well just get to the highscores :P < 1219511854 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the forum < 1219511858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from whence all these people came. < 1219511875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, do you plan to implement LONG? < 1219511877 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hi < 1219511882 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still I'm worried that there are so many people over 10000 < 1219511885 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sure < 1219511885 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hi AnMaster < 1219511889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, found out the division thing? < 1219511900 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I found an implementation in libgcc2.c which comes with gcc < 1219511904 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried to make it work yet though < 1219511907 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks very complicated < 1219511914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well I recommend you wait for answer from Mike first, he has forgot to say which is the most significant word < 1219511925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will CC the mail I'm about to send to you too < 1219511926 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : still I'm worried that there are so many people over 10000 < 1219511927 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1219511929 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know none of them cheated < 1219511942 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not worried about cheating < 1219511948 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about what then < 1219511949 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worried about the amount of time people have put into that thing < 1219511949 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RSI? < 1219511952 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219511956 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just so... pointless < 1219511962 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: look at the title bar < 1219511966 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the most pointless website ever" < 1219511970 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, I know < 1219511971 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oklopol has an incentive though < 1219511976 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was at like #30 earlier today < 1219511978 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hadn't clicked much < 1219511979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ouch < 1219511980 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I said < 1219511982 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he got to #1 < 1219511986 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd give him £20 < 1219511990 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I thought he wouldn't be able to < 1219511993 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since he was at like 3000 < 1219511998 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now he's at 86081... < 1219512001 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :practising repetition techniques is never a waste of time < 1219512011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, sent < 1219512012 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yea I had better start writing out a cheque.. < 1219512018 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: when i started, i wasn't on the list < 1219512018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope Mike replies soon < 1219512023 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you were oklopol < 1219512024 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: has that counter ever been steady once it got past 1000 or so < 1219512025 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :today you were < 1219512030 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: occasionally < 1219512032 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or has it been going up all the time? < 1219512032 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like 5 minutes < 1219512052 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you have 2118 clicks < 1219512053 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :highscores soon < 1219512066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should show everyone their own score no matter where they are in the rankings < 1219512083 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's for v4 kthxbai < 1219512087 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't wanna modify this code too much < 1219512093 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally you're not too far off 1000000 < 1219512095 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :total < 1219512107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I have implemented the 32-bit version of LONG mostly, waiting for your divrem for the 64-bit < 1219512118 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: did my multiply work? < 1219512133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah well haven't tested it yet, however the file didn't work right away < 1219512136 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't test it < 1219512138 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either < 1219512142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example you have ; in the #defines at the top < 1219512144 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not convinced it handles negatives correctly < 1219512152 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well I never compiled it, I was just writing it in a hurry < 1219512153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that caused some... unusual... compiler error < 1219512157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :errors* < 1219512163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it would do < 1219512176 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you can even get away with stray ;s scattered through your program < 1219512199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also you use a == a_abs, doesn't work < 1219512205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't compare structs like that < 1219512223 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wow, oklopol has passed sqrt. I guess he really is going to the top." - alan < 1219512223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err != < 1219512224 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you betcha < 1219512225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you can, I think, if all the values in them are direct integers not pointers or things like that < 1219512225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dm_compare(a,a_abs) != 0 compiles however < 1219512230 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's in it for the £20 < 1219512231 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1219512238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well gcc didn't like it < 1219512240 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you can, I think, if all the values in them are direct integers not pointers or things like that < 1219512241 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1219512257 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I must have muddled it with something else < 1219512265 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, dm_compare was designed for it < 1219512277 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, trick of the mind ended in derren brown totally failing a stunt :P < 1219512296 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but damnit, i need to find something else to watch < 1219512316 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I think it'll reach 1000000 in the next minute < 1219512319 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be worth watching < 1219512323 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1219512326 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should help it along. < 1219512329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am < 1219512334 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2281... < 1219512335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, another issue, ascii to long, ie atol() for this custom long < 1219512336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm < 1219512342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it passed 1000000 < 1219512344 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1219512345 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1219512354 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmhmm < 1219512358 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 15000 to go < 1219512367 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should take like, 40 minutes? < 1219512368 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you can do that with the usual trick, read digits from the left one at a time and add, multiply by ten before you read each digit < 1219512371 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, here goes < 1219512374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1219512400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, actually I already do something like that to handle unusual bases for the BASE fingerprint < 1219512427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :static const char digits[] = "0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz"; < 1219512462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(strchr(digits, c) - digits) < 1219512469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: who got the millionth click? < 1219512474 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No idea. < 1219512479 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: could be interesting < 1219512484 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's one select in MySQL, isn't it < 1219512489 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, it only logs user and date < 1219512492 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not what it made the click < 1219512492 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a million-row database storing all the clicks < 1219512497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: sort by date < 1219512501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it isn't accurate enough < 1219512509 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't know when the millionth click was. < 1219512524 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you can ORDER BY date then take the millionth item of the resulting list < 1219512525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well you do < 1219512529 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah yes < 1219512541 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1219512542 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OneDayIClickedThenIThoughtThisIsCoolClickingIsSoCoolWhatCouldBeCoolerWellNothingCanThatIsHowIThoughtThenIFoundThisCoolPageAndStartedClickingItWasReallyCoolItIsHardToDescribeHowCoolItWasThenIDecidedToSpendMyWholeLifeClickingItIsSoCool < 1219512544 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't reading my notice < 1219512585 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's probably scrolled off the bottom of the screen < 1219512586 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's red < 1219512588 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bold < 1219512589 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and flashing < 1219512596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't see the < 1219512605 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have to scroll down to see it < 1219512610 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it's worth moving it higher up the page < 1219512622 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada < 1219512707 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you made him sad! :P < 1219512727 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1219512732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know who it is? < 1219513109 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: damn < 1219513112 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are really gonna get #1 < 1219513121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, uh, where's my chequebook? < 1219513129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, does a 12 year old have one? < 1219513134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1219513137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1219513138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 < 1219513140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but almost < 1219513142 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's the second time you have made that mistake today < 1219513143 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219513149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: in the UK you can request cheques at a bank even if you don't have a chequebook < 1219513152 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they print one off for you < 1219513158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1219513179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a chequebook, because I can't see any use for one < 1219513180 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I was being silly with the chequebook thing < 1219513209 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you'll need to /msg me your address if you want this cheque :P < 1219513219 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, I won't stalk you _too_ much < 1219513263 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I spent most of last night working on a new lang < 1219513268 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ooh! < 1219513271 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, feather? < 1219513272 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's designed to compile into brainfuck, which is nothing unusual < 1219513284 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interesting part is that it's also designed so that gcc can produce it as output < 1219513298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learnt gcc over the past couple of days and am now trying to make it a C -> BF converter < 1219513306 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1219513334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you need to compile gcc against a backend right? < 1219513340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's it < 1219513343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't select a backend at runtime? < 1219513345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing the bf-unknown-none backend < 1219513350 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, you select it at gcc compile time < 1219513350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ? < 1219513353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1219513359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that makes it less interesting < 1219513363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiling gcc isn't fun < 1219513364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1219513364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: like home address? < 1219513375 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: unless you want the cheque to go somewhere else I guess :P < 1219513386 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: compiilng css takes 15 minutes < 1219513387 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gcc < 1219513400 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and compiling gcc is easy; apt-get source gcc-4.2, sudo apt-get build-dep gcc-4.2, configure, make, install < 1219513400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, half an hour on my cpu < 1219513479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not easy < 1219513511 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what goes wrong for you when you try it, it compiles for me just the same way as any other program < 1219513545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :../gcc4.2/configure --prefix=$HOME/local/gcc-bf --enable-languages=c,c++ --disable-multilib --with-arch=k8 --with-tune=k8 < 1219513549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that at least < 1219513556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ llvm-gcc -v < 1219513556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using built-in specs. < 1219513556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Target: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu < 1219513556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Configured with: ../llvm-gcc4.2-2.3.source/configure --prefix=/home/arvid/local/llvm --program-prefix=llvm- --enable-llvm=/home/arvid/local/llvm --enable-languages=c,c++ --disable-shared --disable-multilib --with-arch=k8 --with-tune=k8 < 1219513572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or want the system GCC? < 1219513577 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit of a complicated configure line < 1219513584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes it is < 1219513591 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, system gcc is worse < 1219513592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Configured with: /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2/work/gcc-4.1.2/configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2 --includedir=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/include --datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2 --mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/man --infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/info --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr < 1219513593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/include/g++-v4 --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --disable-altivec --enable-nls --without-included-gettext --with-system-zlib --disable-checking --disable-werror --enable-secureplt --enable-multilib --enable-libmudflap --disable-libssp --disable-libgcj --enable-objc-gc --enable-languages=c,c++,d,objc,treelang,fortran --enable-shared --enable-thre < 1219513594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ads=posix --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu < 1219513601 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just used --with-languages=c --target=bf < 1219513609 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well see what I pasted < 1219513613 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it doesn't compile yet because i haven't finished writing it < 1219513618 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I added a --target too < 1219513627 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I meant --prefix < 1219513632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not unusual < 1219513652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well what do you think of the system GCC one? < 1219513676 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's unnecessarily complicated, it's the sort of thing a Gentoo user would come up with < 1219513682 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not a gentoo user < 1219513688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the gentoo ebuild that created that line < 1219513691 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely configure should be detecting those things rather than being told them? < 1219513698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, depends < 1219513721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, nop for most < 1219513729 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's the sort of thing a Gentoo user would come up with" hear hear < 1219513734 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't stand most gentoo users < 1219513771 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --disable-checking --disable-werror --enable-multilib --disable-altivec < 1219513776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are redundant I think < 1219513784 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disable -Werror? < 1219513786 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whyever? < 1219513790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, no clue < 1219513793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't write that < 1219513812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I recommend you check the GCC ebuild < 1219513819 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever. < 1219513823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a viewvc somewhere if you don't have gentoo < 1219514010 0 :dogface!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1219514330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, what do people here think of the concept? has anyone tried it before/ < 1219514333 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\//?/ < 1219514347 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's an awesome idea < 1219514349 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably < 1219514446 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a wonderful idea. < 1219514482 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your idea? < 1219514584 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay tusho watch your £20 go < 1219514646 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm watchin' < 1219514709 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1219514712 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: YOU DID IT < 1219514725 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1219514738 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty awesome < 1219514787 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.skitch.com/20080823-rwguwenystj943xjmsbebrmntr.png < 1219514819 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: < 1219514822 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you want to, uh < 1219514827 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get more than _one_ above alan? < 1219514827 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1219514828 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1219514830 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said he'd stop < 1219514832 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're safe < 1219514857 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's interesting to see which numbers people stopped at < 1219514858 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what do i care, once you said you were gonna pay me £20, i decided that's my goal < 1219514879 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to get coolness to get a nick @ 10404 < 1219514880 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: BeatlesLover stopped at 12345 a while back < 1219514892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he already has 100^2 and 101^2 < 1219514910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he may disappear now, ofc, that i told tusho there's multinicking going on :P < 1219514915 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1219514919 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about multinicking < 1219514920 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok? < 1219514925 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1219514930 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, it just lowers your score < 1219514934 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you aren't cheating < 1219514957 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but you can fill the whole list < 1219514968 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, gcc seems to make certain assumptions which are wrong < 1219514975 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance that you can execute code on the stack < 1219514985 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just make it so that you can, then < 1219514991 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I almost implemented a GCC specific version of LONG for 128-bit, just to see if it was feasible < 1219514999 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that frame pointers for old frames will be stored in memory somewhere < 1219515002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is same as the 32-bit one except a few lines < 1219515011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course __int128_t is very non-standard < 1219515017 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: nah, I'm doing it with my own architecture, which is saner for BF use < 1219515021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to be reasonably optimal < 1219515026 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aww < 1219515028 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no gcc? < 1219515032 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, so gcc < 1219515037 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just looked at what would be broken < 1219515038 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1219515038 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1219515042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was just gcc-specific extensions < 1219515048 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not C standard stuff at all < 1219515057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's interesting to see which numbers people stopped at < 1219515064 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be specific, I've broken __builtin_frame_address and nested functions < 1219515065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, can you see what one I stopped at then < 1219515067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what it mean < 1219515070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither of which I've ever seen used < 1219515078 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: IRC default port < 1219515079 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel kinda empty now that i'm on top < 1219515082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, good :) < 1219515093 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what will i do now :< < 1219515111 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, implement feather after ais523 write some specs for it? ;D < 1219515121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hmm < 1219515127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could make it so that your clicks go backwards < 1219515130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could get to 0 < 1219515139 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: just add the decrement button < 1219515143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, and below? < 1219515145 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have a low scores table < 1219515150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait I got an idea < 1219515155 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it just hangs around the current score, I tried that when it was on digg before < 1219515155 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for people to get into the negatives < 1219515155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IP over counter < 1219515157 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just stayed near 0 < 1219515158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, ^ < 1219515161 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ouch < 1219515177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you use several logins to handle all the data < 1219515201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bandwidth will be low, and delay huge < 1219515213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, I like the idea < 1219515214 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1219515217 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol is still clicking < 1219515222 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::--) < 1219515226 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway my BF generation strategy assumes that things like strings of a million > in a row are reasonably efficient < 1219515232 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: get to 123456 < 1219515233 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well after 100000 clicks it kinda feels like the natural thing to do < 1219515237 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking about that < 1219515244 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah do it < 1219515245 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219515248 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sort of relies on the interp doing run-length optimisation, most of the fast ones do anyway < 1219515250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, how does your hand feel? < 1219515259 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'm a pianist, i don't feel a thing < 1219515278 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pianists get magical powers < 1219515278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1219515302 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not "hand", "hands" < 1219515303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still that is a lot more difference < 1219515310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, two mice? < 1219515319 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two hands, one button < 1219515324 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a laptop < 1219515328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, ah ok < 1219515329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1219515332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how many mice could be connected to a computer at once < 1219515333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is less click dept < 1219515336 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a huge number < 1219515336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depth* < 1219515341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everyone can cooperate with the clicking < 1219515345 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost twice as big as a normal key < 1219515350 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's called "shared account". < 1219515353 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or digg/digg < 1219515356 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mousebutton that is < 1219515361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, using usb I believe 128 per host interface thingy < 1219515365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 127 < 1219515368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1219515387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually 127 units per host interface < 1219515400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 126 + one 126-port usb hub < 1219515400 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that game where like 5 people touch this stone and it starts moving and writing shit < 1219515408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you can have several host interfaces < 1219515409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a lot < 1219515411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ^ < 1219515419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do that with multiple mice :D < 1219515428 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, everyone tries not to move it < 1219515435 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, prolly wouldn't work the same way < 1219515447 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need tactile feedback for it to work properly < 1219515451 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1219515453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mice with motors in to move the mouse around < 1219515457 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1219515458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1219515460 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i just realized that < 1219515466 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are you good at optimizing perl code for speed :P < 1219515483 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not as good as for size, but much better than at optimising Mathematica for speed < 1219515486 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :version 4 is gonna need huge optimization to be able to survive in the long run < 1219515498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my attempts to optimise Mathematica made it go slower, generally speaking < 1219515500 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual counter will just be a number in memory that is persisted to disk every now and then < 1219515506 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the users database can be a fairly regular thing < 1219515509 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is the log < 1219515517 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{user,datetime,new_number} < 1219515521 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why do you need a log? < 1219515523 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a list of like 10 million of them < 1219515525 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the long run < 1219515526 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: statistics < 1219515536 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing will have tons of lists, tons of little tidbits, graph porn all over the place. < 1219515537 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-bot, for isntance < 1219515539 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*instance < 1219515540 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why not just generate the statistics rather than the log then? < 1219515549 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what if i wanna add a new kind of statistics < 1219515551 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides < 1219515556 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of them will amount to logging anyway < 1219515564 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :liek what? < 1219515584 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "user's current activity/user's activity of all time" < 1219515588 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1219515594 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generating all the statistics < 1219515597 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will use more space than the log < 1219515598 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway < 1219515600 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :storing the log isn't hard < 1219515603 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's querying it fast < 1219515607 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs caches all over the place < 1219515612 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and loads of indexy things. < 1219515625 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am unconvinced that a relational database is good for the log < 1219515628 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a flatfile certainly isn't < 1219515633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well querying it fast depends on what you want to do < 1219515640 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want a flat indexed database, really < 1219515645 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :relational is pretty pointless for this < 1219515650 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but indexes are useful < 1219515665 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: query the latest N log entries for a user. query *all* the log entries for a user (to display an "all time" graph) < 1219515675 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :query all the entries on day/year/month/hour N. < 1219515683 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you almost certainly want a primary index on user < 1219515686 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1219515690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an index on date too < 1219515694 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and new click < 1219515698 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :separate indexes, I think, probably < 1219515698 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unroll it like this < 1219515704 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, indexing all 3 fields would be helpful < 1219515710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, new click is a natural key < 1219515716 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd have it as primary key in the DB < 1219515717 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{user_id,year,month,day,hour,minute,second,milisecond,new_value} < 1219515721 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and index the other two < 1219515723 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then indexes on every single one of them < 1219515723 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT < 1219515725 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all those indexes < 1219515731 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be taking a HUGE fucking amount of disk space < 1219515735 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: just use a datetime class and index that < 1219515739 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so some kind of crazy space optimization will be required < 1219515740 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no < 1219515741 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about < 1219515745 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"all clicks around noon, ever" < 1219515753 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be useful for graphing which hours are active < 1219515754 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1219515767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you have to compromise somewhere... < 1219515782 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes - the way I want to compromise is somehow making the indexes tiny < 1219515793 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe compression, maybe somehow finding ways to stick indexes together... < 1219515813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I KNOW! < 1219515819 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a column oriented database? < 1219515827 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :user_id,user_id,(etc),year,year,(etc) < 1219515828 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1219515835 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm ... not sure how that helps < 1219515837 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounds good < 1219515853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wanna convert a short python program to c or something so it works a bit faster? :P < 1219515888 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah :P < 1219515891 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: any thoughts? < 1219515906 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not about that, I have so many other things to think about right now < 1219515913 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh ok :D < 1219515915 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how great it would be to translate Nethack into Prolog < 1219515920 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1219515942 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do that some time, doubt I'll have the time though as it would probably take months < 1219515948 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's the perfect lang for it out of the ones I know < 1219515969 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: perhaps perl isn't the best language for counter4 < 1219515975 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need something compiled, really < 1219515977 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or erlang :P < 1219515985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: C, compiled into Brainfuck? < 1219515992 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeaaaaaaano. < 1219516048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, erlang is not compiled to native by default, it is compiled to bytecode run under a vm, but there is an extension for compiling to native code iirc, haven't used it so not sure how it works < 1219516052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HIPE iirc is the name < 1219516057 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: *OR* erlang < 1219516069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, why erlang :) < 1219516070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my C->BF compiler is going through an intermediate lang that I'm causing ABI to create a massive acronym clash < 1219516083 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it seems like it is designed to handle this kind of shit :P < 1219516083 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can either be compiled into BF or byte-code interpreter by BF < 1219516087 0 :Tritonio_!n=tritonio@150.140.226.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219516097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, which is what exactly? < 1219516103 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: standing for Almost Brainfuck Interface, right? < 1219516105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lot of concurrency? < 1219516116 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was *not* designed for handling pointless counters < 1219516119 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: loads and loads of tiny changes, backed to disk occasionally, < 1219516120 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Assembler Brainfuck Interface, I think < 1219516129 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1219516129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well yes it can handle that pretty well I think < 1219516131 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1219516133 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1219516135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :querying the log < 1219516136 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh yeah < 1219516145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, query hm, not sure how good that is < 1219516153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I haven't really used mnesia a lot yet < 1219516154 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well mnesia < 1219516157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have tried it a bit < 1219516158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems good < 1219516166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: just use SQLite, everyone else does, although I don't know why < 1219516166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but haven't done any performance testing < 1219516171 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor even what it is really < 1219516173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlite is quite nice < 1219516188 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sqlite would ... not work for this < 1219516189 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1219516198 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one process can open it at once < 1219516200 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sqlite is a database engine that works against a file, so you don't need a database server running < 1219516201 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's a lock) < 1219516202 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it client-side and peer-to-peer? < 1219516203 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1219516203 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1219516205 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one file < 1219516205 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1219516208 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs in-memory cache < 1219516212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well only one can write to it < 1219516213 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I am not going to use any SQL db < 1219516216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than one can read it at once < 1219516216 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well yea < 1219516220 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the data's just stored in the browsers of the people who are visiting the site < 1219516227 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: way too open to cheating < 1219516229 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if at any moment nobody's visiting the site it just vanishes < 1219516242 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: your point is? < 1219516250 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: v4 will be more resistant < 1219516345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, http://rafb.net/p/LB7uns28.html is what I got so far < 1219516366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing it, that is the reason for "!defined(__GNUC__)" < 1219516368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ! that is < 1219516373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise the ! wouldn't be there < 1219516446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1219516488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, your print depends on your divmod so... < 1219516498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, I wrote it first < 1219516509 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I haven't tested it for obvious reasons < 1219516522 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest is untested too but I'm reasonably sure I got + and - right, not sure about * < 1219516546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'm not sure about what is most and least significant part in fingerprint < 1219516549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to bad docs < 1219516560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I contacted Mike Riley, no reply yet < 1219516610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the name change for the routines is due to making it work the same for 32-bit too < 1219516627 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind name changes < 1219516632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was only quick example code anyway < 1219516646 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't overengineer things in a few tens of minutes! < 1219516662 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway one issue is that there is not yet any test suite for LONG at all < 1219516672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is really hard to test < 1219516680 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, especially in 64-bit < 1219516687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in 32-bit it is < 1219516690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was hard enough getting a memorable constant large enough to overflow < 1219516778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to go home, anyway < 1219516784 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"$/='!';eval join'',@{{'+','$t[$p]++;','-','$t[$p]--;','<','$p--;','>','$p++;','[','while($t[$p]){',']','}',',','$t[$p]=ord ge < 1219516896 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | no < 1219517389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1219517389 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I have no clue, why am I talking? < 1219517618 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice topic :) < 1219517640 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something i would say, but i don't capitalize < 1219517925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, for when you log read: huh, it prints out correctly except one minor detail < 1219517930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it prints out backwards < 1219518140 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1219518252 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: < 1219518256 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastebin the code nad /msg it < 1219518343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fixed it < 1219518468 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t8 (ax,bx) (ay,by) = (t4 ax by + t4 ay bx + t4axbx + c4 t4axbx, t4 ay by) where t4axbx = t4 ax bx < 1219518494 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c8 (a,b) = (c4 (a + b), c4 b) < 1219518594 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ is bitwise XOR. t4, t2, c4, and c2 are implemented analogously, as are t16, etc. < 1219518621 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that is? < 1219518628 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t1 x y is x AND y (they're both single bits), and c1 x is x. < 1219518633 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nimber multiplication. < 1219518670 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION implements it betterly in Haskell < 1219518692 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ betterly / / < 1219518720 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :betterwise < 1219518744 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the smallest Int Haskell has is Int8? < 1219519008 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Data.Bits has xor, .&., .|. < 1219519019 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sound useful. < 1219519029 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even for Integer < 1219519120 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I want Words, not Ints. < 1219519123 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, shifts and rotates < 1219519853 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@user-89-108-238-139.mobile.playmobile.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1219519854 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1219519871 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtube.com/user/asiekierka - #2 and #3 released < 1219519875 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ello. < 1219519879 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Animathed screebles #2 and #3, i mean < 1219519889 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also #0 and #1 < 1219519902 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're screebles only by name, they don't have anything to do with it < 1219519911 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except large randomness, but that has to do with me. < 1219520048 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: How are the animathed screebles < 1219520208 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a screeble? < 1219520255 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://asiekierka.boot-land.net/screebles < 1219520474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :working with 128-bit integers in C sucks btw < 1219520506 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's not right. < 1219520533 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t8 (ax,ay) (bx,by) = (t4 ax by + t4 ay bx + t4axbx + c4 t4axbx, t4 ay by) where t4axbx = t4 ax bx, how about. < 1219520593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface, what are you trying to do? < 1219520611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in what language < 1219520618 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: implement nimber multiplication in Haskell. < 1219520629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nimber multiplication? < 1219520630 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be a better idea to look for an existing implementation, I'm thinking. < 1219520634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I don't know haskell :/ < 1219520648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface, what is "nimber multiplication"? < 1219520681 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiplication of nimbers. :-) < 1219520689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface, then what are nimbers? < 1219520692 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can find out what a nimber is on Wikipedia. < 1219520694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers typoed? < 1219520709 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nim numbers. < 1219520737 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nimber is a Nil mber < 1219520741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface, I don't understand that wikipedia page < 1219520742 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number is a Nu mber < 1219520743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1219520745 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219520753 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nimber is a Nil mber <-- where did the l come from? < 1219520767 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks his Screebles archive < 1219520778 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll have to explain nimbers to you, then. < 1219520788 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION failed, now checks all his Screebles: AnimaTHed frames < 1219520797 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION failed, fails to common sense: "I don't know" < 1219520807 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I don't know < 1219520817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives asiekierka a strange look < 1219520826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface, well a short summary would be nice < 1219520838 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: I think I prefer Original Screebles(TM). < 1219520903 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1219520915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface, what do you use nimbers for? < 1219520930 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a nimber can be represented as a non-negative integer. The set of all nimbers with representations below 2^2^n, where n is a non-negative integer, is a finite field. < 1219520944 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: because these animated ones are too confusing. < 1219520954 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there seems to be more in an Original Screeble(TM). < 1219520959 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: suggestion - slow down the animated ones < 1219520961 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're a bit too fast < 1219520970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface, what do you use nimbers for? < 1219520971 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just notch the framerate down a bit < 1219520978 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: They're theoretical toys - got a problem with that? < 1219520989 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't just theoretical toys. < 1219521003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I got a problem with false information < 1219521008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points at tusho < 1219521016 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#2 and #3 are 12fps < 1219521020 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't notch them down. < 1219521022 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface: Well they seemed like it. :P < 1219521024 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Why not? < 1219521027 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just change the FPS down < 1219521029 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'll go slower < 1219521043 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smoothness < 1219521045 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do anything with them that you can do with a finite field. < 1219521047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, would not be animated, would be slide show < 1219521048 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<12FPS isn't smooth anymore < 1219521049 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even a bit < 1219521052 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the problem < 1219521059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, you need more frames < 1219521060 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: A lot of stop-motion isn't smooth. :P < 1219521064 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it already takes him like 3 hours < 1219521068 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like 5 seconds < 1219521076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1219521081 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're nicely representable as 32-bit integers. < 1219521082 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:30 hours for 20 seconds, you mean < 1219521118 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whatever. < 1219521119 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll have to use a Lanczos interpolation to increase the number of frames. < 1219521142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogface, are haskell numbers 32-bit by default? < 1219521158 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're meant to be a little on the fast < 1219521174 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: bignums. < 1219521177 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare #2 and #3 with #0 < 1219521178 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1219521178 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE < 1219521180 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: link < 1219521181 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Ints have to be at least a certain size, and Integers are bignums. < 1219521190 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link for what < 1219521193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, non-flash link, so no youtube < 1219521217 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1219521219 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AVIs you want < 1219521220 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a WMV < 1219521224 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AVIs are XVid < 1219521224 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: ignore AnMaster < 1219521227 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not .ogg < 1219521228 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the WMV is... WMV < 1219521231 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he won't care for it. < 1219521235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogg-theora is nice < 1219521243 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, http://youtube.com/user/asiekierka for anyone missing links < 1219521244 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: actually, after watching all four videos, I only remember two things about them: the "END!" at the end, and that thing that I think was a progress bar. < 1219521264 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were meant for a single watch < 1219521271 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for a "rememberance" < 1219521273 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nimbers are useful for Fourier transforming, I think. < 1219521283 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they were meant to remember them, they'll be at LEAST 1:30 minutes < 1219521291 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#2 is very nice < 1219521292 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1219521292 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1219521328 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#3 too < 1219521340 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion, then: #2 and #3 are longer than #0. < 1219521358 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i play games now, k < 1219521483 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're 12 FPS < 1219521493 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 was 15 FPS i think (or 24, i forgot) < 1219521495 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#0 was 24 FPS < 1219521611 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: what do you mean i am insane? i am going to kill you with this carrot! < 1219521626 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's one twisted innuendo < 1219521644 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: oh no, he won't be _that_ lucky < 1219521660 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor him. < 1219523012 0 :dogface!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1219523198 0 :Defenser!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"forktime" < 1219523353 0 :shachaf!n=shachaf@66.17.178.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219524411 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host234-89-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1219525683 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1219526449 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1219526743 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1219528113 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host234-89-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1219528245 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1219528370 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1219528455 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cooooffeeee < 1219528629 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn wrists. and i didn't even play tusho's game! < 1219528636 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1219529653 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1219529670 0 :Tritonio_!n=tritonio@150.140.226.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1219530317 0 :siobhain!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1219531023 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact < 1219531028 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy who's site the counter is on < 1219531031 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :had brainfuck as his first language < 1219531032 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no joke < 1219531067 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1219531068 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | and she's oklopol's girlfriend? < 1219531650 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool topic :) < 1219531665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always about me or said by me < 1219531668 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1219531669 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Just delete/revert any page containing the string "Excuse for my post but I do not have money to buy meal to my children. Forgive me please." < 1219531676 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1219531676 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | stop reading. < 1219531679 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1219531691 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOO < 1219531752 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that means i need to play a game instead < 1219531849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1219531849 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | is >> giving a problem too ? < 1219532295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1219532533 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: coolness is still clicking < 1219532608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>? right shift? < 1219532687 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :monadic operation < 1219533528 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so oklopol < 1219534202 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1219535192 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy fuck. < 1219535194 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coolness is still clicking < 1219535353 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKLOPOL < 1219535355 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALAN OVERTOOK YOU < 1219535360 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK < 1219535363 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol < 1219535365 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol < 1219535366 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol < 1219535366 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol < 1219535367 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol < 1219535367 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol oklopol < 1219535409 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with tusho < 1219535411 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol!!! < 1219535419 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: http://hideou.se/counter/ is what I am talking about < 1219535421 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is #2 < 1219535423 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 100300 clicks < 1219535427 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was #1 until just now < 1219535439 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he got £20 for being #1 < 1219535441 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the point of this now? < 1219535442 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sending the money tomorrow... < 1219535445 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: there's a number < 1219535447 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the button icnrements the number < 1219535451 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1219535451 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a highscore of top clickers < 1219535456 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol has clicked over 100k times. < 1219535462 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically its who can click the most? < 1219535507 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: yes, and how many people have clicked ever. < 1219535510 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing. < 1219535514 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I made it < 1219535516 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was #1 on digg < 1219535517 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a year ago < 1219535519 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it is back up. < 1219535608 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: you kajy? < 1219535617 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1219535624 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the counter < 1219535632 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1219535639 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldnt even consider doing something so stupid < 1219535682 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1219535683 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun < 1219535685 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how could you? < 1219535698 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's not stupid, it's usefulnestically challenged!" < 1219535701 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its stupid < 1219535777 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's useless, not stupid < 1219535992 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ODICTITTICCISCWCBCWNCTIHITTIFTCPASCIWRCIIHTDHCIWTIDTSMWLCIISC? < 1219535997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a very strange one