< 1220832691 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1220832959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the Discworld mythos, Patina, goddess of wisdom, carries a penguin on her shoulder. <-- ah, another Discworld fan :) < 1220833035 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1220833045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1220833327 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AGG UNMATCHED TAGS < 1220833333 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : can't be closed with ! < 1220833350 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is trivia < 1220833352 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh burn < 1220833374 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok I've updated the source < 1220833430 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've also removed the logging of actions after seeing a 40 GB output.log file < 1220834411 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : From the page: " Please, write the 99 bottles lyrics go to hell" They did it wrong.. I suppose it's up to me. for(int i=99;i>=0;i--) Well for some reason StumbleUpon doesn't like the little arrows, so I'm going to replace them with spaces. But you all know what I mean. cout "We've got " i " bottles of beer on the wall! " i " bottles of beer! Take one down, pass it around, we've got " i-1 " bottles of beer on the wall!" I know it isn't perfect, but fuck of < 1220834429 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not fungot output. < 1220834430 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: if followed by any number of < 1220834431 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a comment: < 1220834435 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :v < 1220834436 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/IRP < 1220834488 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, one last plug befroe the day is done < 1220834490 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tusho.net/ < 1220834494 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1220834729 0 :Slereah_!n=x@ANantes-252-1-94-106.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220838169 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1220838217 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1220838472 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :puzzlet < 1220842799 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1220845536 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | that's the point < 1220852171 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r01jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1220853068 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1220855646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1220860281 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220860287 0 :Slereah_!n=x@ANantes-252-1-94-106.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220860799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1220860800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1220863693 0 :oklobol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1220863693 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220863736 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i oklo the pol again? < 1220863739 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! yay < 1220864091 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a bol this time. < 1220864326 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1220864605 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure, but this is a respectable nick. < 1220864618 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you are not Prozac the Bear < 1220866563 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was thinking about this programming language that enforces good programming style by somehow guaranteeing there are errors in the program, something like you supply a seed at the beginning of the program, and it's used to make small random adjustments to variables at certain points; every function has a separate assert block, if it catches the error, the function works normally, otherwise, well, you just get the error < 1220867136 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | factor is too destructive for my tastes < 1220867256 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAC-TOR-IZE! < 1220867635 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1220867635 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220868326 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1220868336 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo < 1220868386 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey wait a moment < 1220868429 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whacks his brain for wanting to make an o tower < 1220868698 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1220868699 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo < 1220868699 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo < 1220868700 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooo < 1220868701 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooo < 1220868702 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooo < 1220868702 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo < 1220868703 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo < 1220868705 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1220868721 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1220868721 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i call it "space ship who knows what true love is" < 1220868735 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo < 1220868741 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooo < 1220868790 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-94-106.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220869022 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220869030 0 :oklobol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1220869800 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1220870222 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1220870222 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220870529 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1220870753 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@m-205.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1220871594 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1220871752 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Jesus loves you" < 1220873026 0 :oklobol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1220873026 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220875499 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1220875732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, rcfunge may beat cfunge in speed at mycology, but cfunge is way way faster than both rcfunge and ccbi at life.bf < 1220875923 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about how fast do those interpreters run mycology.b98? < 1220875952 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine took about 3s last time I timed < 1220876014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfunge manages in: < 1220876015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real 0m0.315s < 1220876016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :user 0m0.117s < 1220876016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sys 0m0.030s < 1220876035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is an -O2 build < 1220876044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my x86_64 (2 GHz) < 1220876057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't test your on my cpu since it doesn't compile for me < 1220876060 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, quite a bit faster < 1220876062 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.98.27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1220876084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Deewiant < 1220876089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ccbi segfaults in SCKE here < 1220876094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is the last one < 1220876097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD: P pushed 0 for socket without data < 1220876097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1220876152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funktio, for rcfunge: not sure, since it's TURT opens a window, and that blocks < 1220876160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it depends on how fast I click close < 1220876200 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that affect the user time? < 1220876210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it seems so < 1220876242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for my own efunge in erlang: only 93 yet < 1220876249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is a bit faster than this morning < 1220876280 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1220876338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but all the other interpreters beat it at life.bf, iirc you can find it at catseye's 93 page < 1220876342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it is befunge93 < 1220876358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for cfunge it is so fast it looks like a motion picture here ;) < 1220876487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funktio, http://catseye.tc/projects/befunge93/eg/life.bf < 1220879522 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1220879668 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in a limited area? < 1220879675 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jk < 1220879681 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: befunge-93 is 80x24 < 1220879684 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no exceptions < 1220879704 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the height 25? < 1220879716 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1220879722 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funktio: dunno < 1220879727 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is < 1220879737 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Befunge-93 specification restricts each valid program to a grid of 80 instructions horizontally by 25 instructions vertically." < 1220879756 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot, is the game of life supposed to be only TC if you allow some infinite patterns? < 1220879831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1220879838 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to frolick. < 1220879850 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the turing machine with finite tape is like 5000000x5000000 < 1220879867 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the computational power of a game of life with an infinite space but only finite starting patterns < 1220879914 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mother. < 1220879926 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Anyway, it's literally fixed < 1220879929 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that interp they cannot grow < 1220879932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond the initial size < 1220879937 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had sex with your mother < 1220879942 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fucked her, with my dick < 1220879950 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I am still wondering < 1220879955 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WONDER < 1220879958 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was an interesting tangent < 1220879978 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if Wikipedia can answer this < 1220879989 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_life < 1220879994 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not what I expected. < 1220880017 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had/have that game. < 1220880017 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_Game_of_Life < 1220880022 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1220880250 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It ties in closely with an earlier discovery by John Conway of an extremely dense packing of unit spheres in a space of 24 dimensions where each sphere touches 196,560 others. As Conway has remarked, "There is a lot of room up there."" < 1220880251 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1220881224 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I forgot, is the game of life supposed to be only TC if you allow some infinite patterns? < 1220881231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that instance is clearly not TC I agree < 1220881235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I never claimed it was < 1220881247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor did anyone I think < 1220881248 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is irrelevant to this. < 1220881253 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just wondering. < 1220884103 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite initial patterns? < 1220884124 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I'm trying to remember < 1220884137 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an you have something TC in GoL with only finite initial patterns? < 1220884170 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220884182 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ccbi --version, what is it < 1220884184 0 :oklobol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1220884193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sec < 1220884210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, CCBI - Conforming Concurrent Befunge-98 Interpreter version 1.0.13 < 1220884216 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.0.14 is the latest < 1220884221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1220884225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will try that in a bit < 1220884226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy atm < 1220884270 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1.0.14 had a couple of sock/scke-related fixes in it so I would hope it doesn't crash :-) < 1220884792 0 :Slereah_!n=x@ANantes-252-1-94-106.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220884792 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220884891 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-94-106.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220884891 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220884983 0 :Slereah_!n=x@ANantes-252-1-94-106.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220884983 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220884999 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, my game of life on befunge was mentioned here today, thanks :) it was done 12 years ago btw. < 1220885099 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my computer-related achievments back then was playing Indiana Jones 4. < 1220885322 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mtve! < 1220885352 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1220885393 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you get that game of life so tiny? < 1220885404 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goblins? < 1220885415 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gremlins, tusho < 1220885421 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1220885436 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: confirm/deny? < 1220885590 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirm that it was done by me? well, you can dig befunge maillist archives circa 96 < 1220885605 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, confirm that it is so small because of gremlins < 1220885608 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220885610 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiny becase i was trying to leave as much room for the field as possible < 1220885636 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-94-106.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220885643 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1220886833 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OPERATING SYSTEM VULNERABLE TO VIRUS AND SPYWARE! ME RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGH FIX IT! LINUX! PROBLEM SOLVED!" < 1220887365 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys < 1220887366 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.somethingawful.com/fashion/espanolSWAT/01.jpg < 1220887368 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is... < 1220887375 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it written "ESCO" on the top left? < 1220887743 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1220887745 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1220888736 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evasion_%28book%29 < 1220890425 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@89.108.244.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1220890428 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi... http://worlds-highest-website.com/ < 1220890446 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And http://www.tetris1d.org - currently at 9600 < 1220890469 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi asiekierka. < 1220890494 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is now a good time to plug http://tusho.net/? < 1220890512 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lessee < 1220890554 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: re /msg me, I didn't get it < 1220890560 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"And then-" < 1220890580 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.98.27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1220890591 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re /msg it. < 1220890591 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1220890725 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Do you have Spore? < 1220890732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1220890759 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1220890760 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1220890767 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Longsite is long < 1220890773 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have spore next week < 1220890776 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For mah birthday :D < 1220890783 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Galactic edition? < 1220890818 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolly < 1220890819 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if it'll still be availble < 1220890836 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, what happened in the esolang world during my 1-month absence? < 1220890851 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We made a language out of ham < 1220890861 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1220890869 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a BF "Hello World" cookie box < 1220890870 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in < 1220890872 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get the signs < 1220890877 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cookies, i mean < 1220890881 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want to make _everything_ BF, asiekierka. < 1220890884 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You never do, though.) < 1220890884 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1220890887 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1220890889 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's me < 1220890894 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not I want < 1220890919 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That 1d tetris is hard < 1220890936 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lalalaa.com/ - the best song of the year, also has different versions < 1220890941 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old < 1220890943 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2006 old) < 1220890994 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can leave 1d tetris in the background until it reaches the score limit < 1220891015 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1220891029 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1220891044 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens then? D: < 1220891051 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get 99 million points < 1220891063 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at 18400 in tetris1d_left_in_BG < 1220891073 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19600 now,, no wait, 20400! < 1220891108 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :26000 < 1220891111 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to a little speedup < 1220891210 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :34800 < 1220891414 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :51000 < 1220891478 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :55800 :D < 1220891537 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :60200 < 1220891546 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is how we spend our time on #esoteric < 1220891562 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :252555555555555555555 < 1220891642 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guh < 1220891648 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes tetris1d just stops by itself < 1220891649 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3125444445 < 1220891653 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stoped at 66600 now < 1220891655 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1220891694 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SATAN < 1220891811 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew it! < 1220891818 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tetris 1D is the work of satan himself < 1220891832 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Tetris is the devilish work of communists < 1220891851 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not communists but communist < 1220891858 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or communist's work < 1220891868 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, no-one cared about him < 1220891876 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was no law < 1220891877 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone stole it < 1220891879 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for Satan < 1220891892 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1220891896 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He didn't care either < 1220891913 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He already planned years in hell for him for making something FUN < 1220891916 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1220891918 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : FUN < 1220891924 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1220891934 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1220891939 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-185-170.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1220891939 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the good games are fun games < 1220891942 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am going to make something like nethack, except: < 1220891946 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 4D Tetris < 1220891946 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1220891947 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. massively multiplayer < 1220891948 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. online < 1220891957 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that will be phun < 1220891958 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AGREED WITH YOUR IDEA < 1220891960 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1220891961 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMO Tetris < 1220891966 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: ha. < 1220891968 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, good idea < 1220891980 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what i do with good ideas? < 1220891982 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be bad < 1220891982 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DO THEM < 1220891984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does it < 1220891993 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a good idea. < 1220891995 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does tusho since he's actually a good idea < 1220892002 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my joke. < 1220892003 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1220892006 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :asie < 1220892007 0 :asie!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :asies_tusho < 1220892015 0 :asies_tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, that was MY joke. :| < 1220892020 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was my joke before yours < 1220892021 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1220892029 0 :asies_tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it was MY joke before YOURS < 1220892032 0 :asies_tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1220892045 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1220892048 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dudes, it was mine before all of you'z < 1220892070 0 :asies_tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, tusho, it was my joke, CLONE. You're my clone altogether! < 1220892076 0 :asies_tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1220892079 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: why do you think i said it < 1220892082 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said it like that as a joke < 1220892103 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the matter, I started to feel internet old when someone didn't know what "All your base" was. < 1220892109 0 :asies_tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only difference between us is that ... < 1220892115 0 :asies_tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you're a CLONE < 1220892137 0 :asies_tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :asiekierka < 1220892147 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets back to his senses < 1220892154 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey... what h-happened? Why are you staring at me angrily, tusho? < 1220892172 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho is a little cauldron of hate < 1220892188 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know what I mean. < 1220892235 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's innuendo in the word innuendo < 1220892254 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In-your-end-o. < 1220892269 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220892309 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I love you < 1220892309 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220892319 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I going to jail for pedophilia? < 1220892323 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't invent that one, actually. < 1220892327 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@89.108.244.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1220892332 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But feel free to love me. < 1220892343 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The law won't let me < 1220892382 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know < 1220892385 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to play a game < 1220892393 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will we? < 1220892393 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1220892396 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :play the one i am making < 1220892399 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1220892400 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(multiplayer webhack) < 1220892403 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a game on IRC < 1220892404 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1220892405 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1220892406 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ewll < 1220892407 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to play a game with you < 1220892407 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1220892409 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what < 1220892410 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1220892412 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and slereah < 1220892412 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not cybersexing. < 1220892418 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROLEPLAYing... < 1220892419 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We already did IRC games. < 1220892421 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random roleplaying. < 1220892424 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cake challenges. < 1220892424 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who wants to join < 1220892428 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put on my robe and wizard hat. < 1220892441 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put on my leather costume. < 1220892453 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not cybersexing, I'm a barbarian >:| < 1220892455 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put on my stupidity helm < 1220892458 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A BDSM Barbarian < 1220892462 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts the roleplay < 1220892470 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are in a infinite black box. What do we do? < 1220892486 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look to see if there's anything. < 1220892486 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ahem* I steal yo soul and cast Lightning Lvl. 1,000,000 Your body explodes into a fine bloody mist, because you are only a Lvl. 2 Druid. < 1220892498 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots are trying to drill my brain but my lightning shield inflicts DOA attack, leaving the robots as flaming piles of metal. < 1220892503 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : King Arthur congratulates me for destroying Dr. Robotnik's evil army of Robot Socialist Republics. The cold war ends. Reagan steals my accomplishments and makes like it was cause of him. < 1220892508 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fin~ < 1220892512 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1220892516 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S GODMODDING, SIR < 1220892522 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was quick. < 1220892523 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's bloodninja, sir. < 1220892525 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's not a roleplay < 1220892526 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1220892528 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an RPG roleplay < 1220892531 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/bloodninja < 1220892532 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a "chat roleplay" < 1220892536 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A puzzle roleplay < 1220892539 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edumacate yourself. < 1220892542 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are somewhere and must figure our way out < 1220892546 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1220892549 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And do stupid stuff < 1220892570 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, Lvl. -1 IRC AsieRoleplayer, i'm Lvl. 3030 IRC AsieRoleplayer < 1220892573 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1220892575 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1220892611 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1220892616 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a level 88 SS. < 1220892620 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was i doing? Oh, playing Pacman on my C64. < 1220892626 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grabs his laptop < 1220892627 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see a jew and a fiddle < 1220892634 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see a portal gun. < 1220892642 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you do? < 1220892648 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I push the jew in the portal < 1220892652 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To fall FOREVER < 1220892653 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a portal gun < 1220892654 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a portal < 1220892661 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a GRAVITY GUN < 1220892668 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make two portals < 1220892669 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes the gravity gun, obviously nearer him < 1220892673 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On top of each others < 1220892675 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes the portal gun with the gravity gun < 1220892676 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also < 1220892681 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't take the gun! < 1220892682 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THINK < 1220892683 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I push the jew in it < 1220892688 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you < 1220892698 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ahem* *cough* Think. < 1220892701 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you'll go in too < 1220892718 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can't do it < 1220892723 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The black box is infinite < 1220892730 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rips off asiekierka's face < 1220892736 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it'll have no end alre---*starts falling since there's no bottom either8 < 1220892738 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1220892743 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH < 1220892749 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1220892754 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION listens to lalalaa on his iPod < 1220892756 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can we fall if it's infinite? < 1220892764 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nearest gravity source is infinitely far < 1220892770 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE THERE IS STILL GRAVITYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy < 1220892797 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN THIS INFINITEEEEEEE BLACK BOXXXXXXxxyxyyyxyxyxxxxxxxxxxxxzyyxyzyxyyxyzzyxxxxxxxxxx < 1220892849 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls on something < 1220892850 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a minute < 1220892855 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a little gray cube < 1220892858 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually enough to hold me < 1220892861 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a lot of them < 1220892871 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes some cubes near him and stacks a tower... [10%] < 1220892877 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes some cubes near him and stacks a tower... [40%] < 1220892878 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes some cubes near him and stacks a tower... [80%] < 1220892888 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tower on what? < 1220892889 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stacked a tower of... 5 cubes! < 1220892891 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a floor? < 1220892894 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1220892895 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything? < 1220892899 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the cubes defy gravity < 1220892901 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a lot of them! < 1220892907 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defy so they stay in air. < 1220892916 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you grab them, you'll give them momentum < 1220892925 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they actually float < 1220892932 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They... float. < 1220892933 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of < 1220892939 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have little engines so they float < 1220892941 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather < 1220892943 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Block momentum < 1220892957 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if they have engines, shouldn't they go up? < 1220892971 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that there is gravity < 1220892981 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :While they're falling, they're going up at the same speed < 1220892985 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's a floating illusion < 1220892990 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1220892992 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're much lighter < 1220892998 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they're huge cubes < 1220893001 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huge < 1220893019 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the size of 2 mac minis stacked on top of each other < 1220893020 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if they're still now, if you grab them, they'll go down < 1220893039 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they have little accelerometers to tell them to have more thrust < 1220893062 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, i'm stacking cubes on a cube that was still from the beginning < 1220893066 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they fall down < 1220893066 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why do we care if we fall, anyway? < 1220893070 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from the cubes, everything also falls down, at the same speed < 1220893080 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in a way, all objects are still < 1220893085 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the cubes are moving < 1220893089 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because... the cubes can power the same amount of power as a single power outlet can :D < 1220893106 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION connects his C64 to one cube, his laptop to the other, and his TV to another < 1220893127 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loads up BASIC and programs some stuff... while noticing something! [25%] < 1220893128 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loads up BASIC and programs some stuff... while noticing something! [50%] < 1220893129 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loads up BASIC and programs some stuff... while noticing something! [74%] < 1220893131 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loads up BASIC and programs some stuff... while noticing something! [99%] < 1220893134 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION found out something! < 1220893154 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BASIC code written on a C64 connected to a cube can manipulate this black box! < 1220893176 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes a code to create a floor < 1220893176 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220893181 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes a code to create a floor [33%] < 1220893186 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes a code to create a floor [66%] < 1220893186 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes a code to create a floor [99%] < 1220893197 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this, Second Life? < 1220893198 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION created a floor! It's of enough width and height to cover us all < 1220893207 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... didn't play second life < 1220893215 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's no internet here! < 1220893216 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1220893228 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts up his laptop as a server with programs downloaded from the i----shit. < 1220893241 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, there's NO internet here < 1220893247 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor do i have programs for a server! < 1220893248 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My only hope is < 1220893259 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes out his Turbo Pascal 7 copy and programs a server app [1%] < 1220893299 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{come on, do something!}} < 1220893306 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{You're still falling, on a cube or on the floor doing something :P}} < 1220893344 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have to fear anything < 1220893351 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like falling is dangerous < 1220893360 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's landing that's dangerous < 1220893361 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's over < 1220893367 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're on a cube and on a floor < 1220893369 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're bored < 1220893378 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully < 1220893383 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cubes are soft < 1220893397 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to have sex with the cubes. < 1220893398 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the floor can't be even felt... You may think you're still falling if you don't look < 1220893406 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*AHEM*... One more that and i quit < 1220893432 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw :( < 1220893435 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1220893436 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a kid! < 1220893444 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I NEED AN ADULT! < 1220893457 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tusho is dead < 1220893467 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes an infinite wall between slereah and tusho < 1220893483 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: i am a kid too < 1220893483 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sings quietly* for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead... < 1220893486 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell you what < 1220893488 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1220893494 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if psygnisfive/augur and oklopol are ever in here at the same time < 1220893495 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION destroys the wall and makes COOKIES from it < 1220893497 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should part < 1220893501 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lest your innocence is destroyed. < 1220893517 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1220893519 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1220893528 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION programmed the server app < 1220893541 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as the code is manipulating this black box mini-universe... *hits enter* < 1220893556 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it MALBOLGE? < 1220893558 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees that the whole world turned into an internet-like matrix, where everyone can manipulate everything < 1220893569 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can make a malbolge parser for your parts < 1220893583 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use your imagiCAKEtion < 1220893593 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes a warp tool < 1220893610 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses a warp to teleport himself to... a game. < 1220893613 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes a cake < 1220893617 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{ What would be better, Spore or Portal? }} < 1220893630 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't go to Spore < 1220893633 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's full of penises < 1220893638 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO it's not < 1220893639 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have it < 1220893641 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Portal has cake. < 1220893647 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spore has a buncha penises < 1220893651 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...thecakeisalie < 1220893655 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also STOP < 1220893665 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. < 1220893669 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches asiekierka be SCARRED FOR LIFE < 1220893672 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one more that and... < 1220893674 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Penis. < 1220893678 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUTT < 1220893678 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1220893681 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220893683 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl. < 1220893688 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@89.108.244.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1220893690 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :penis < 1220893696 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, are you in the closet? :o < 1220893708 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to the warp to portal no matter what < 1220893718 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, but... Goodbye! :D < 1220893731 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now learnt to be away from tusho < 1220893732 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1220893734 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1220893739 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Penis. < 1220893742 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1220893750 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220893754 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like that bash quote where "fuck" made a guy's router kill irc < 1220893839 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1220893878 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@89.108.244.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1220894004 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . < 1220894028 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you all can see who i am < 1220894032 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :asiekierka < 1220894043 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1220894073 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't and was going to propose him sexual intercourse < 1220894549 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1220895796 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-4-102.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220896505 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg penis? < 1220896507 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1220896660 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to buy another one < 1220896693 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives bsmntbombdood_ a penis < 1220896713 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU FOUND : 1 PENIS! < 1220896726 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1220896743 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*inventory* < 1220896746 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PENIS Qty. 7 < 1220896755 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a whole mess of dongs. < 1220897702 0 :ais523!n=ais523@sm01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1220897744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1220897747 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220898002 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what's with this edit war on Esolang? < 1220898008 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: esco < 1220898019 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the esco guy keeps adding the links to all the pages, i keep removing them < 1220898021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1220898029 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :edit warring is probably not the best way to solve this though < 1220898034 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe discussion would be better? < 1220898036 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I only removed them once < 1220898042 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after he put them back like months after I forgot about eso < 1220898045 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, we are having a "discusison" < 1220898054 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he has threatened to 'report me' and I have explained why they don't belon there) < 1220898055 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice, total < 1220898056 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*belong < 1220898065 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1220898068 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he didn't add them the first time < 1220898076 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another escoer (god, I can't believe there's more than one) did < 1220898083 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that was months ago < 1220898317 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-82-181.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1220898602 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"to all the pages"? < 1220898754 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklobol: every single esolang that esco implemented trivially & badly < 1220898943 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :610000 on 1D Tetris < 1220898958 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: 1D Tetris? < 1220898974 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tetris1d.org/tetris.php < 1220899139 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: you're up against: < 1220899139 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. < 1220899139 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1220899140 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NKWM < 1220899140 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1220899140 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18549200 < 1220899142 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1220899144 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18549200 < 1220899157 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1220899157 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :

< 1220899163 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, all I have to do really is not to crash < 1220899194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, I've continued working on gcc-bf < 1220899213 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linker's done, libc and libm are done but not tested, compiler's mostly done, assembler's hardly started < 1220899218 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wo < 1220899218 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1220899220 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1220899221 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even implemented a filesystem (although haven't tested it) < 1220899233 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keeping all the files in memory in malloced space < 1220899261 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no more cheating." < 1220899262 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d'aw < 1220899264 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1220899272 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1220899274 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can beat that < 1220899280 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIREBUG GO < 1220899389 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1220899395 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haxxx'd it successfully but no go < 1220899396 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1220899609 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1220899710 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: may interest you: i am working on a web-based, multiplayer nethack < 1220899714 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, i don't know < 1220899722 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I've been thinking about multiplayer nethack < 1220899731 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and decided that it would either be very boring or unlike the original < 1220899735 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, since mine is _massively_ multiplayer i've had to make it, err, not nethack < 1220899740 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like nethack, but it's not turn based < 1220899749 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game-made stuff only moves once every N, yes < 1220899751 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it does it all at once < 1220899753 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, not turn based is one unlike way to make a multiplayer version < 1220899756 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but players move as they wish < 1220899771 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, it looks like nethack < 1220899774 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is hopefully similar enough < 1220899839 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why they get so much spam in German nowadays < 1220899852 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh ditto < 1220899854 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know enough German to tell it's spam, but not to know exactly what it's saying < 1220899856 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly on friends-of-brainfuck which is .de < 1220899871 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the reason for me < 1220899937 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to figure out to make an element have 0-width in css while still being visible < 1220899945 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. collapse it so that the stuff in front of it goes behind it < 1220899949 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the nametags on other players) < 1220900003 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1220900005 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :margin-right: -100% < 1220900034 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1220900035 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1220900056 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esco's interps do not work then? < 1220900068 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or they just suck ass? < 1220900072 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklobol: they suck ass to the Nth degree < 1220900080 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, i see < 1220900081 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the trivial, i just-discovered-esolangs type < 1220900086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they're compounded by the stupidest idea ever: < 1220900093 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey why not put them all in ONE EXECUTABLE?! < 1220900098 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like busybox < 1220900100 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except busybox has a reason < 1220900103 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they don't < 1220900105 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also busybox doesn't suck. < 1220900195 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know wha busybox is < 1220900205 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what langs has esco implemented? < 1220900246 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck, like 2 other boring ones < 1220900249 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 2 brainfuck cyphers < 1220900268 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here < 1220900287 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck,ook!(bf cypher),spoon(bf cypher),hq9+,whitespace,byter < 1220900299 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so...three "real" languages (all of whose implementations are incredibly bad) < 1220900305 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one joke (hq9+) < 1220900309 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and two trivial brainfuck cyphers < 1220900312 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooorayyyy < 1220900343 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, based on my work on gcc-bf, I've been thinking about writing an incredibly fast BF interp that beats all the existing incredibly fast BF interps < 1220900354 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by analysing the program to work out what tape elements it's using for what < 1220900359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you do can I spam you with tons of ideas for optimizations? < 1220900362 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where the pointer is at any given moment of times < 1220900364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes < 1220900370 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: awesome < 1220900371 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I haven't started it yet, or even thought about it much < 1220900374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and won't do it just now < 1220900381 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, make sure to check out bff.c and mazonka's bf4.c < 1220900386 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially bf4.c's linear loop stuff < 1220900394 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to reduce all the number-generators to just a SET < 1220900420 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wanna compete? < 1220900429 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklobol: not right now, maybe later though < 1220900438 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it seems to reduce all the number-generators to just a SET < 1220900445 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's way below the sort of optimisations I was planning < 1220900448 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, basically that would mean i'd start making a bf interp too. < 1220900457 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, yes, but it has tons of stuff like that < 1220900460 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is also unreadable < 1220900461 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::^) < 1220900483 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-94-253.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220900489 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine would, for instance, realise that you were maintaining every 6th cell as a zero < 1220900501 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reducing all number-generators to a set? does that mean "all balanced loops"? < 1220900527 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklobol: I was planning to do unbalanced loops too < 1220900530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's harder though < 1220900545 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think I'll need a blazingly fast interp to test gcc-bf, the way it's going < 1220900547 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc is massive < 1220900561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even though my linker only links the parts it needs, it's still pretty bloaty even for simple programs < 1220900568 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when stdio streams are involved < 1220900641 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: bf4 does all unbalanced loops < 1220900641 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1220900654 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also ... shouldn't you write a hyper-optimizing ->asm compiler? < 1220900656 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1220900660 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyper-optimizing -> llvm < 1220900661 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do all unbalanced loops :P < 1220900669 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can have all the crazy assembly tricks < 1220900672 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but stay portable < 1220900675 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklobol: i mean, balanced < 1220900675 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: or -> gimple, and have it as a gcc front end? < 1220900686 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, that is too crazy :P < 1220900692 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus llvm does more holyshit optimizations, I believe < 1220900695 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that'll be beneficial < 1220900710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: blue-skies idea: have INTERCAL both as a front end and as a back end to gcc < 1220900714 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EEEEEEK < 1220900751 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :translating -> GENERIC is arguably easier than translating -> C, and gcc has a gimplifier for GENERIC already < 1220900790 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1220900854 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-94-106.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1220900863 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that thing I said about needing not to crash? < 1220900960 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1220900971 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so you've actually played nethack: should you be able to select another player and see info about them? < 1220900974 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just their name hovering beside them < 1220900997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not without a stethoscope < 1220901001 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be able to tell class < 1220901005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and possibly level < 1220901007 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's about it < 1220901013 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and rae < 1220901013 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that kind of stuff is coming later :P < 1220901015 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/rae/race/ < 1220901017 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's obvious < 1220901024 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :target for now: < 1220901027 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll effect whether they show up as @ or h < 1220901030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or G < 1220901030 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can move around a room < 1220901037 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bash into people < 1220901038 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220901043 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, i've only ever seen @? < 1220901057 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: @=human/elf, h=dwarf, G=gnome (among other things, except for the gnome) < 1220901075 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1220901081 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, always just @ for now < 1220901086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until that SHAMCNY stuff appears < 1220901200 0 :psygnisfive!i=82f5c439@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-477d2c101d4b1fa5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1220901356 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, don woods made advent? < 1220901363 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes < 1220901368 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you read alt.lang.intercal < 1220901373 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really. < 1220901377 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just him though, a couple of other people too < 1220901401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely enough, the person mentioning it on a.l.i suggested writing a bf backend to gcc a couple of days /after/ I started work on it... < 1220901746 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION giggles at "new Ground" < 1220902003 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1220902004 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220902119 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1220902214 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how often do you think a game step should be? < 1220902217 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.5 seconds? < 1220902226 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not nearly that fast < 1220902237 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 second? < 1220902239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people often spend hours over a game step in genuine Nethack < 1220902247 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't genuine nethack < 1220902247 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220902285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I suggest at least giving people a chance to check their inventory < 1220902296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say every 20 steps, waiting for a minute or so so people can do non-time-consuming things < 1220902310 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm thinking of having the inventory always available < 1220902313 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another example: dropping all your un-BCUd stuff on an altar takes only one turn < 1220902330 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the game is going to be like nethack on asynchronicity and crack < 1220902331 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just DX. if you know what you're doing < 1220902338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still that takes a while to type < 1220902343 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having it pause for a minute would kill it < 1220902354 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well yea you'd be able to type between turns < 1220902356 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things would just keep moving < 1220902362 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when the turn isn't going, others can still move too < 1220902368 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and loot you or similar < 1220902502 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think i'll go with 1sec < 1220902562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I don't think it's even possible to give the commands to attack with a reach weapon in 1 second < 1220902587 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then you'd take more than one term to perform the action < 1220902600 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make reach weapons rubbish rather than annoying < 1220902601 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i'll be simplifying the bindings ofc) < 1220902609 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(massively) < 1220902682 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220902692 0 :oklobol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1220902714 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but in a multiplayer environment, delaying e.g. 5 seconds would be unusable < 1220902722 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd all be jittering about quickly while nothing happens < 1220902737 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, you're probably used to playing near the start of the game where there are long periods where nothing happens < 1220902749 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nothing can happen mid-ter < 1220902749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but later in the game is basically impossible without spending a lot of time on each move < 1220902750 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1220902767 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for 5 seconds, the whole game would stop < 1220902771 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for everyone < 1220902780 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that would kind of suck, no regular nethack wouldn't work with 1sec < 1220902782 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not < 1220902791 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that do you mean "nothing can happen mid-term"? < 1220902793 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/that/what/ < 1220902809 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it'd just be players moving somewhere or sitting still typing a command < 1220902816 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they'd have to wait until the 5 seconds were up < 1220902818 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it took effect < 1220902826 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember, everyone is doing everything at the same time < 1220902834 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the turns have to happen at the same time for everyone < 1220902876 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: they can still queue commands beforehand < 1220902880 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they can < 1220902883 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot of things in Nethack take up no turns < 1220902893 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as using a stethoscope, or starting to engrave and then cancelling < 1220902906 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is the only kind of turn I can have is one that happens every N seconds, no matter what, for everyone < 1220902931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what if multiple people try to move onto the same square? That would be chaos < 1220902942 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, moves don't take up a turn < 1220902944 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one person raises a drawbridge at the same time another person lowers the same drawbridge < 1220902947 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one would get there first < 1220902950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other would bash into them < 1220902967 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(moves can't take up a turn, or it'd be slower than a snail) < 1220903046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what about having it completely real-time, don't have turns at all but instead have action timeouts < 1220903066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if you move, you can't move again for a second (2/3 a second if fast, 1/3 a second if very fast) < 1220903069 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, I want all the enemies &etc to move at the same time < 1220903076 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pets? < 1220903083 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1220903086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1220903086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1220903088 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1220903095 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1220903096 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1220903103 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also different monsters have different speeds < 1220903104 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you moved too far it'd just not be able to catch up to you < 1220903109 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, yes < 1220903111 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know what i mean < 1220903113 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the general feel of it < 1220903115 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :warhorses are faster than dragons, which are faster than lichens < 1220903123 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am just calling the period where the 1-turn-moving monsters are still a 'turn' < 1220903131 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How fast are lichens < 1220903132 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though everything else is realtime < 1220903136 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 per turn? < 1220903141 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: incredibly slow, but they still have a movement speed, strangely < 1220903149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're faster than yellow moulds, which AFAICT don't move < 1220903152 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are we talking about, too < 1220903164 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Nethack, or tusho's version thereof < 1220903173 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1220903192 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha i just realised how appropriate the name "NEThack" is < 1220903193 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this < 1220903211 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: NetHack was invented by Usenet, that's what distinguishes it from Hack < 1220903214 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1220903216 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still ;) < 1220903219 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Nutsack < 1220903242 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called wackem though (nethack -> whack (w for web) -> whackmm (massively multiplayer) -> whackem (pronouncable and meaningful)) < 1220903257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm seems it's actually wackem < 1220903260 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for shortness, presumably < 1220903712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hi < 1220903749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnMaster < 1220903754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, whack'em? ;) < 1220903765 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wackem. :P < 1220903780 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's my WIP online, massively multiplayer sort-of-like-nethack < 1220903813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, there are less changes now I suspect to get parts of cfunge to work under cygwin, Deewiant managed to make it work partially < 1220903837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some fingerprints won't work, and you will get lot of weird warnings < 1220904053 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"And I invented doors, no joke!" < 1220904333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, any news? feather maybe? < 1220904342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I've been working on gcc-bf < 1220904348 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing else, really < 1220904350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah progress? < 1220904369 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linker basically done, compiler mostly done but not finished, library done but not tested, assembler only just started < 1220904417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1220904425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so "hello world" doesn't work yet? < 1220904445 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: nothing works yet, I'm doing this breadth-first rather than depth-first < 1220904451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1220904477 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if you compile hello world atm, you get a program with stdio and a lot of file stuff linked in, and some rows of +++++ that put a constant string Hello World into memory < 1220904513 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: didn't use pdclib[sp]? < 1220905173 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1220905210 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can I have the source to your esolang adventure game? < 1220905213 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do stuff with it, maybe. < 1220905222 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, it may take me a while to find it though < 1220905253 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1220905267 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll probably write a generic "Expose a unix command via a webpage" thing. < 1220905271 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put your adventure game up < 1220905276 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like i did a while ago but less glitchy)_ < 1220905278 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ah no, I found it < 1220905286 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I copied it to /home/ais523/esogame.c on Rutian < 1220905291 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be able to get it from there < 1220905301 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also note it's very unfinished atm and I haven't worked on it since you last saw it < 1220905354 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm...we need a filesharing system using scp, i run it far too much because you upload stuff there < 1220905361 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you could do 'rutian-give tusho file' < 1220905367 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'd upload it, notify me, and I could accept it < 1220905508 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, I am going to write rutian-give and rutian-recieve-daemon < 1220905512 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you are very excited. < 1220905522 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, wait < 1220905530 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can't host a server, can you? < 1220905532 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to firewalls < 1220905532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, esogame? < 1220905535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :desc? < 1220905536 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION laughs at the typical tusho attitude < 1220905546 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1220905547 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a text adventure based on esolangs I started writing once < 1220905548 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i do that was typical of me < 1220905549 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very unfinished < 1220905553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, like? < 1220905557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: go off into writing a new program idea < 1220905569 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so far it has three puzzle areas, based on brainfuck, INTERCAL, and SMETANA < 1220905571 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't see how that's unique to me :P < 1220905577 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to solve the puzzle to get through the area < 1220905586 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I didn't say it was, probably other people have the same attitude < 1220905595 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: am i right re: servers though < 1220905596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately none of the puzzle areas go anywhere yet < 1220905607 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, I don't have an always-on computer < 1220905616 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tjat < 1220905618 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not needed < 1220905620 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when this computer is on I can reverse-tunnel to rutian and host a server that way < 1220905621 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for transferring when they're online < 1220905623 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1220905627 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't that be hosted on, er, rutian though? < 1220905630 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not host a server locally due to firewalls < 1220905639 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to be able to notify you in some way < 1220905647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: rutian will be the IP you use to connect, the reverse-tunnel sends the data to my computer < 1220905653 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably via one of those 'make dialog with shell script' progs < 1220905656 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah < 1220905661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when 127.0.0.1:12345 on your computer connected to Apache on mine? < 1220905664 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will that be able to tell your computer to run xdialog or whatever it is? < 1220905675 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes if the right software's running over here < 1220905681 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1220905687 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just write it as if it's running on your machine < 1220905690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1220905698 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I try to remember the syntax to set up a reverse tunnel < 1220905713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1220905714 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great. < 1220905738 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its port shall be 19176 (ESO) < 1220905770 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you have ruby right < 1220905774 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, wait, it'll run on rutian < 1220905775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1220905779 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: probably, I've never tried running it though < 1220905786 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I don't then I can get it easily enough < 1220905949 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there a command that reads passwords securely like ssh does then dumps it to stdout that you know of? < 1220905950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be useful. < 1220905980 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I think so, can't remember the syntax though, I'll look it up < 1220906114 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dialog --insecure --stdout --passwordbox Password: 8 80 < 1220906122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove the --insecure if you don't even want it to echo asterisks < 1220906129 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit funky, though, dialog puts up a fake GUI < 1220906138 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what dpkg uses for prompts though < 1220906153 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that stuff < 1220906155 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, ok < 1220906161 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's another way < 1220906163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably is < 1220906166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just the one I know offhand < 1220906221 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by the way, how do you think I should ask for confirmation of the transfer? i'm planning on using one of those "pop up a basic dialog in gtk/qt/cocoa/whatever" < 1220906222 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things < 1220906231 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then if it's accepted a save as < 1220906255 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1220906315 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: incidentally, #gcc seems to be one of those channels where if you're lucky you might get an answer after 5 hours < 1220906320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1220906323 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inded < 1220906325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program to check password? < 1220906326 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*indeed < 1220906330 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no. < 1220906331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks < 1220906333 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a program to input a string without echoing < 1220906335 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program to let the user input a password securely < 1220906339 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use something like "stty -echo; read; stty echo;", although it's a bit brittle and might too easily leave the terminal to a no-echoing mode. < 1220906340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1220906343 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the method ais523 said < 1220906373 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: in bash: read -s; echo $REPLY < 1220906384 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1220906384 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works for all passwords except -n < 1220906403 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read's a bash builtin, though, not a command accessible any other way < 1220906435 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, here's the model: < 1220906454 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scp-send server username file < 1220906456 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1220906457 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1220906461 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scp-send file username server < 1220906467 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'scp-send foo.c tusho eso-std.org' reads best < 1220906468 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1220906471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what about sending more than one file? < 1220906472 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that asks for your password < 1220906475 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably the file list should come last < 1220906482 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, mine couldn't support that anyone < 1220906483 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anyway < 1220906486 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the save as thing < 1220906488 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just tar it < 1220906489 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why not just secure it the same way ssh does? < 1220906493 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can ssh there, you can scp-send there < 1220906511 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: uh, and how do you propose i hook into just one bit of ssh? < 1220906516 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't input a password into something like that unless it was unique < 1220906521 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as I know, Net::SCP requires you to give stuff yourself < 1220906525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you don't, you try to ssh to verify it's possible < 1220906529 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1220906545 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, actually < 1220906547 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :net::scp might do it < 1220906600 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, anyway < 1220906609 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it looks at /home/VICTIM/.scp-transfer < 1220906616 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not there, it chokes and dies < 1220906622 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's there, then it should be of the form 'host:port' < 1220906629 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it makes a connection to that < 1220906634 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and says 'yo, i gotsa file for you here' < 1220906646 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after scping the file over to /home/SENDER/.scp-transfers/) < 1220906659 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if the other user accepts it, the reciever daemon just scps it to the directory they specify < 1220906801 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1220906966 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1220907335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about ssh < 1220907346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there is some other ssh in python implementation < 1220907352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that launchpad and others use for ssh < 1220907358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like launchpad's bzr+ssh < 1220907368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea if that is helpful in this case or not < 1220907727 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1220907729 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using ruby < 1220907777 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1220907782 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/net-ssh-2.0.4/lib/net/ssh.rb:195:in `start': tusho (Net::SSH::AuthenticationFailed) < 1220907790 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yea not sure how to make it prompt the console for that kind of stuff < 1220907797 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use an ssh key < 1220907813 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure either < 1220907833 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1220907853 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# :passphrase => the passphrase to use when loading a private key (default is nil, for no passphrase) < 1220907853 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# :password => the password to use to login < 1220907855 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1220907858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll ask #ruby-lang. < 1220907863 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They don't know that tusho==ehird. >:D) < 1220907882 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1220907984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[tusho, you can send a password as a parameter - no need for an interactive session]] < 1220908001 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot wait for the day when people read < 1220908045 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: you crazy stalker of my about page < 1220908112 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DARE YOU READ MY WEBSITE < 1220908144 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220908242 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stalks too < 1220908303 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels stalked < 1220908316 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To be honest Slereah's stalking amounted to "adding me on MSN".) < 1220908332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what, you use MSN? Heretic! < 1220908349 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Justification: everybody who uses a computer in the world and wants to talk to me who isn't in #esoteric < 1220908376 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: teach them to use IRC, it's better than MSN for most things from what I know of MSN < 1220908386 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that would not happen < 1220908397 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, Adium does jabber and stuff too < 1220908401 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and makes all protocols look the same < 1220908401 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my whole family is on MSN _except_ me < 1220908408 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I could just pretend they use jabber < 1220908419 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MSN's just like IRC, except harder to use and has fewer features < 1220908425 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1220908427 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just like jabber < 1220908428 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and doesn't have channels either < 1220908431 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well, yes < 1220908432 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except easier to use and has fewer features < 1220908444 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(jabber is _not_ easy to use for a non-techie) < 1220908450 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless in the form of Google Talk) < 1220908466 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but most people don't know about google talk's desktop client so don't use it apart from through gmail) < 1220908469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not easier, I've lost count of how many times I've gone into a cybercafe and found someone else's instance MSN Messenger still running because they couldn't figure out how to exit it < 1220908481 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but generally people don't _need_ to exit it < 1220908482 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then left it running because I couldn't figure out how to exit it either < 1220908490 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right click the tray icon. click exit < 1220908501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: this cybercafe doesn't have tray icons < 1220908513 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's in the menus < 1220908520 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To make the menus visible, click the little arrow on the title bar.) < 1220908524 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :File->Exit, specifically. < 1220908549 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, I've done that before when I could get to the menus, half the time though it just hides in the nonexistent system tray and pops up messages from nowhere and I can't close its source < 1220908564 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :click the message's body to pop up an msn window < 1220908566 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then exit from ther < 1220908567 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1220908573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, thanks < 1220908579 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now why couldn't they make it simple and intuitive? < 1220908587 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they're idiots < 1220908601 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, for the stuff most people do with msn (Click a person, type a message, press enter) it's dead simple < 1220908607 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore has huge market penetration < 1220908609 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore everyone uses it < 1220908634 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, IRC works almost the same way: double-click on "tusho" (it could be single-click in several clients), type the message, press enter < 1220908648 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, irc works like this < 1220908658 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you open mIRC (Face it, the users of MSN will not use anything else) < 1220908672 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you go through the huge server list and pick one ( What has this got to do with talking to people?) < 1220908686 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of cryptic messages fly past and then a "JOIN CHANNNELLLL" box opens ( Channel? What? What is that list?) < 1220908688 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you close it < 1220908704 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Konversation connects to irc.ubuntu.org by default < 1220908705 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you type /query user ( /query? Wait, what is the user? Huh, I can't just click in a list?) < 1220908711 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you need to actively change it to go elswehere < 1220908712 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you type and hit enter < 1220908714 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and guess what? < 1220908719 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can easily create a list of people to click on < 1220908722 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't have fancy nicknames with spaces. No colours. No fonts. < 1220908727 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MSN users _like_ them, as annoying as they aer. < 1220908728 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are < 1220908746 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a MSN user :((( < 1220908747 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like how myspace users like customizing their profiles to look god-awful. It's a matter of identity. < 1220908760 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: here, have a hug *hugs* < 1220908766 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: konversation? < 1220908770 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are expecting msn users to be using linux? < 1220908793 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well, no, I'll just wait for KDE to become mainstream on Windows < 1220908794 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you're quite in tune with the technical ability & rabid familiarity-seeking of most people < 1220908805 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which will never happen < 1220908806 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1220908815 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should happen any day now, I reckon, given how bad the default Windows apps are (what default Windows apps...) < 1220908826 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and moreover, downloading a huge kde install and installing all that and setting it up and aaaaaaaaaa vs downloading one file and hitting 'next'... < 1220908851 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it would make more sense for computer manufacturers to preinstall some useful programs, after all all non-Windows OSes do < 1220908861 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we are talking in the realm of reality here < 1220908866 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"teach them to use IRC": not happening < 1220908875 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: who teaches them to use MSN, though? < 1220908878 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nobody. < 1220908888 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I figured out how to use IRC by myself... < 1220908890 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they click 'download'. They press next a few times. A window pops up. < 1220908894 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They enter their username, and their password. < 1220908896 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They click sign in < 1220908903 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they can click a persons name and type back and forth. < 1220908912 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that was very easy, I just clicked on a link to an IRC channel on Esolang the first time, and it opened up in Chatzilla) < 1220908917 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they happen to click the thing labeled 'Font' (Of course they will, all their friends have fancy fonts) they can set it like Word. < 1220908920 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's it. < 1220908927 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it asked for a username (not even a password), and I was connected < 1220908932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and MSN auto-remembers passwords. < 1220908936 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and auto-starts at startup < 1220908945 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So from then on, the process is 1. Click a person's name 2. Type back and forth < 1220908980 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in other words my discovery seemed easier, although it did rather rely on the Mozilla suite coincidentally being installed on that computer (N.B. this is pre-Firefox, it was just Mozilla back then) < 1220908988 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your process sounds very complicated compared to mine < 1220908998 0 :LinuS!n=LinuS@217.202.105.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1220909006 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i really, really don't think you will ever be able to comprehend how the mind of a regular computer user works < 1220909019 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1220909035 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there isn't anything much simpler than clicking on a link and it Just Working < 1220909044 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'll just tell you the results of being in their shoes (having intimately known their computer habits by one being one and by seeing them in action): IRC or Jabber will never, ever be as easy for them as using MSN < 1220909046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular computer users jump through many more hoops than that < 1220909087 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Divers5/1220903957499.jpg < 1220909091 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT WILL HAPPEN < 1220909103 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :His nose will grow now. < 1220909193 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his legs will shrink. if i remember correctly from the original story. < 1220909237 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The fairy said there were two kinds of lies, those with short legs and those with long noses) < 1220909269 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are self referential paradox short legged? < 1220909309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1220909311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1220909453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1220909551 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1220909594 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :knight < 1220909605 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ndamnit oerjan you broke the chainight < 1220909647 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't want to imply that i was leaving yet < 1220909678 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not < 1220909681 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i was saying night to AnMaster < 1220909742 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you say "My nose is not getting shorter?" < 1220909852 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, I just got that image < 1220909853 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1220909986 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1220910258 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is ssh even needed? < 1220910266 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't it just telnet to me directly < 1220910268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: depends on what you're trying to do < 1220910272 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have a hardcoded list of people:ip < 1220910336 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | three bytes to form one rgb? < 1220910365 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1220910369 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just the transfer thing < 1220910391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and hi fungot, optbot < 1220910392 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: uhm ^^ < 1220910392 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ( ok), then i say ' gets the current stack < 1220910506 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1220910511 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be an interesting befunge extension < 1220910516 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or whatever other stack language) < 1220910521 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add first class stacks, then ' < 1220910525 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which pushes the stack to the stack < 1220910530 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The stack pre-push, obviously) < 1220910545 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or not pre-push: Make it update with the stack) < 1220910605 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders: can "first class" be first class? < 1220910626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm not sure if that makes sense, but I hope it does < 1220910672 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's what I think about most things in #esoteric... < 1220910732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we might be the friendliest programming channel there is < 1220910735 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next to #haskell < 1220910751 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen a few rows in #haskell, just minor though < 1220910767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there have been rows here too, but none of them have been on-topic < 1220910775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only rows we have are between well-established users < 1220910779 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly, one of them is me) < 1220910832 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and generally they're consistent < 1220910840 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mainly argue with psygnisfive and AnMaster < 1220910843 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1220910845 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mainly row with them < 1220910853 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i argue with ais523, but not in the same way < 1220910923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, maybe try being nice for once? < 1220910942 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i could say the same for you with how you act in the arguments < 1220910949 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, i am nice most of the time < 1220911304 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@i-174.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1220911979 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you succeded in killing melap yet? < 1220912009 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, had an idea for another eso lang.. doubleCheck(), basically you have to write every instruction, function parameters, etc < 1220912011 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least twice :P < 1220912031 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :melap? < 1220912097 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the guy you always complain about, the one on the wiki < 1220912105 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may not speak a lot, but i sometimes read < 1220912110 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1220912113 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*melab < 1220912117 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well < 1220912118 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :him < 1220912119 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220912121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only complained about him since yesterday < 1220912121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1220912129 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1220912136 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a laugh at his sprawling, huge user subpages beforehand < 1220912137 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was ages ago < 1220912163 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :billions and billions < 1220912364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:18] eh, I really don't like esoteric languages < 1220912364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:18] they tend to be annoying and can be done easier with other languages < 1220912379 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1220912383 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: where is that from < 1220912399 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#nethack, somehow the conversation there got round to INTERCAL < 1220912467 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1220912493 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all the strange features coming into INTERCAL there'll just have to be some killer app it ends up being really good at < 1220912504 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: bit-reversal is one well-known one < 1220912511 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't seem to have convinced him < 1220912513 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's slightly shorter in INTERCAL than in C < 1220912523 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's INTERCAL-72, no funky features needed < 1220912538 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1220912539 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yeah, I was thinking of possibly designing something for my senior design project next year, but then I used brainfuck and changed my mind" < 1220912542 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that meant to make sense? < 1220912554 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for modern INTERCAL, I went and wrote a continuation library in it in 24 hours, despite continuations not being part of the language, that should give you some clue as to its power < 1220912565 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: probably < 1220912573 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does it? < 1220912590 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I think so, it looks like something that makes sens but is out of context < 1220912604 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i wonder if he realises what channel he is in < 1220912633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: arrgh, the last few comments make me want to make nethack into an esolang now < 1220912642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, set up a level so that the AI does computation < 1220912644 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: DO IT < 1220912659 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I need to figure out how first < 1220912667 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to do that sort of conversion all the time < 1220912676 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally I implemented noughts-and-crosses, then stopped < 1220912679 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's pretty easy < 1220912730 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :._; < 1220912741 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a combination of ._., ;_; and o_O < 1220912749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: the floor, then an altar, then a shark or other water creature? < 1220912782 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a face < 1220912795 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O, but with the ._. eyes and the ;_; tears < 1220912796 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :._; < 1220912796 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: nethack strikes me as being a great example program to get working on gcc-bf < 1220912803 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: doesn't it use ncurses or some shit < 1220912805 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd just need an unbuffering interpreter < 1220912808 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: translate ncurses too < 1220912816 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: doesn't it use ioctl < 1220912817 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff like tht < 1220912819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just outputting and inputting characters, of course < 1220912821 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ncurses) < 1220912824 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, it uses termcap < 1220912831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which just consults files to determine what to output < 1220912831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1220912839 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it consult a file < 1220912845 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I have a filesystem implemented < 1220912847 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in gcc-bf < 1220912849 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1220912850 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the tape < 1220912870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's at the ABI level, I can't translate it to brainfuck /yet/... < 1220912891 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABI's designed to be pretty easy to translate though, I just need to get round to writing idioms < 1220912909 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and figuring out how to sensibly multiply and divide 64-bit numbers in 8-bit brainfuck < 1220913020 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1220913180 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that channel is weird. < 1220913180 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220913188 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: in what way? < 1220913194 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1220913534 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Puzzi. Sė, parlo proprio con te. Puzzi." < 1220913609 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:00] --> raylu has joined this channel (i=raylu@128.237.96.181). < 1220913609 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:39] I will /part. < 1220913609 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:39] <-- raylu has left this channel. < 1220913613 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was in #irp < 1220913616 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange! < 1220913681 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :self-referential IRP, it's the future! < 1220913714 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speech acts < 1220913716 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I part the channel < 1220913717 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/part < 1220913732 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: by the way, my filesystem is very simple: it allows all characters but NUL in filenames, but has no directories or permissions or anything like that < 1220913740 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why no NUL < 1220913741 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1220913774 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: end-of-string in C < 1220913785 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but :| < 1220913788 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way to pass strings containing NUL to fopen and suchlike < 1220913793 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ok < 1220913798 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: when you do add directories < 1220913800 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no point in supporting them as there'd be no way to use them < 1220913800 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add ESCAPE CHARACTERS < 1220913803 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can have / in filenames < 1220913813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say you have a project called In/Out < 1220913815 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In\/Out/foo < 1220913818 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you are possibly overthinking this... < 1220913827 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In\\/Out/foo <-- foo from Out from In\ < 1220913829 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: NO < 1220913832 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be AWESOME < 1220913860 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only purpose of this is to keep C's standard library things like fopen happy, and to keep programs which expect a filesystem happy < 1220913871 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm aiming for portability to as many C programs as possible, which is why int is 32 bits < 1220913872 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, tons of things use directories < 1220913882 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you do implement them, add my awesome. < 1220913886 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, unfortunately, most programs can live without them though I think < 1220913892 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it < 1220913895 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not useful ones, at least < 1220913899 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :opendir is incredibly common < 1220913930 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I don't think nethack uses it < 1220913937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor does C-INTERCAL, although it needs files to exist < 1220913938 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls. (duh) < 1220913940 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :git. < 1220913944 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi < 1220913960 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could go on but those are some obvious ones < 1220913962 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I think it would be easy enough to port vi to a directoriless file system < 1220913966 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, vi just checks for directoriness) < 1220913973 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vim+netrw...) < 1220913974 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was talking about programs that don't need a filesystem really < 1220913977 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like nethack < 1220913984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you should aim for the top < 1220913986 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1220913987 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1220913990 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing about it apart from the save intrinsically needs a filesystem < 1220914003 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if we're going that root I may as well just port Linux and have done with it < 1220914024 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: YES < 1220914032 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make the kernel compile with gcc-bf < 1220914035 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO IT NOW < 1220914039 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: a few things at a time < 1220914045 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i specified "NOW" < 1220914046 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1220914053 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't even written any of the assembler apart from loading constants into memory yet... < 1220914073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by the way I thought of trying to put constant strings into code rather than tape, but it turned out to be more trouble than it was worth) < 1220914399 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :666666666666666315 < 1220914401 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :56 < 1220914405 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1220914433 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :121212121212121212121245 < 1220914439 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1220914613 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/ < 1220914635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, an explanation of why all browsers claim to be Mozilla? < 1220914667 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all browsers claim to be everything these days :P < 1220914752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/0.2.149.27 Safari/525.13 < 1220914755 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear... < 1220914761 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1220914782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is it based on? WebKit? But not the Apple version? < 1220914791 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just webkit < 1220914794 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they wrote their own drawing layer < 1220914802 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the one safari/win uses uses internal apple apis < 1220914804 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is closed source < 1220914812 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1220914856 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I just bookmarked that web page, well done < 1220914866 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay :P < 1220915906 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"9" < 1220916999 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0 < 1220917001 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VOTE FOR HIM < 1220917516 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1220917684 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night"