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05:58:17 <oklofok> mister wilson fancy-pants :P
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14:04:13 <Slereah> http://www.novaksblog.com/pictures/stumble_on_sunday_4th_part/programming_tip.jpg
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14:40:19 <optbot> KingOfKarlsruhe: 3. output "valid" or "invalid" depending whether the data is
14:44:28 <KingOfKarlsruhe> optbot: (if (exist? optbot) (display "yes") (display "no"))
14:44:29 <optbot> KingOfKarlsruhe: it's not a pythonic class name
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15:46:32 <Mony> optbot, really ? :o
15:46:33 <optbot> Mony: 1x-e+o at the right position
15:46:44 <Mony> but what about aboutness optbot ? xD
15:46:45 <optbot> Mony: ok.. so the max is with 1 byte-implementation x(255)?
15:47:05 <Mony> optbot, tu parles français ?
15:47:06 <optbot> Mony: you have 0 = nil...
15:47:08 <Mony> optbot, tu parles français ?
15:47:15 <Mony> ah ? oui optbot ?
15:47:16 <optbot> Mony: This is why everybody should smoke weed when listening to music.
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15:51:13 <Mony> optbot, what about tusho ? :?
15:51:14 <optbot> Mony: that only offers the same speed as the bundled interpreter
15:51:32 <tusho> i am a programming languge
15:52:08 <Mony> an esoteric programming language ^^
16:01:34 <tusho> Specifically, the only interpreter - me - is required by the spec to modify the spec every infinitesimal moment it witnesses.
16:01:34 <AnMaster> tusho, the language itself self modifies? Somewhat like Feather then?
16:01:52 <tusho> (If I didn't have write access to the spec - which is encoded in my DNA and so forth - then I couldn't be an implementation.)
16:02:29 <AnMaster> tusho, do you suggest every human is a language or just you?
16:02:31 <tusho> Of course, I might end up removing that clause althoguh considering how the self-modification works that's incredibly likely.
16:02:37 <tusho> AnMaster: I'm not a human.
16:02:42 <tusho> I'm an esolang & esolang interpreter.
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18:06:07 <ais523> ah, hi judofyr, haven't seen you here for a while
18:06:26 <SimonRC> ais523: hi, target-of-my-envy
18:06:57 <ais523> hellos all round, by the look of it
18:07:08 <Judofyr> yeah, I got tired of helping noobs at #ruby-lang
18:07:09 <ais523> now I'm annoyed that I don't have anything to report...
18:07:22 <SimonRC> Judofyr: don't overdo it, you'll burn out
18:10:04 <Judofyr> it's actually a bit fun, too
18:21:13 <ais523> heh, someone on MediaWiki made an ODT/JAR polyglot
18:21:22 <ais523> which was both a legal OpenDocument document and Java archive
18:21:34 <ais523> to prove that it wasn't always possible to determine the MIME type from the file itself
18:22:42 <SimonRC> ISTR that jpegs are ridiculously liberal regarding where their header starts
18:23:05 <SimonRC> so you can concatinate a jpeg onto another file and it will work as both
18:26:43 <tusho> SimonRC: other way too
18:26:54 <tusho> it used to be a neat trick to put an mp3 after a jpg and tell people to "Save as foo.mp3"
18:28:37 <Judofyr> ais523: both ODT & JAR is really a zip-archive, I assume?
18:29:00 <ais523> well, ODT can be a flatfile too but is normally a zip-archive
18:29:10 <Judofyr> and they both ignore files they don't understand..
18:31:54 <SimonRC> could one make documentation and code together in by that method
18:32:08 <AnMaster> g++ uses 400 MB for each file when compiling this project
18:32:19 <AnMaster> (the project is a game, wesnoth)
18:32:25 <SimonRC> or make an official compatibility requirement between ODT and JAR?
18:33:17 <SimonRC> AnMaster: are you doing the super-duper C++ types thing?
18:33:28 <Judofyr> code + documentation sounds awesome!
18:33:33 <AnMaster> SimonRC, no clue, I'm just an user trying to compile a game I like
18:33:59 <SimonRC> Judofyr: well, there is already Javadoc, which can go in the JAR
18:34:11 <AnMaster> in fact C++ is using more ram than virtualbox currently
18:34:26 <Judofyr> still, user-guides, tutorials should go together with the code
18:34:26 <AnMaster> since virtualbox use 500 MB RAM
18:34:45 <AnMaster> that was the computer_ai.cpp btw
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18:36:52 <AnMaster> Judofyr, I tend to use doxygen rather than javadoc, but I don't code in java at all
18:37:12 <AnMaster> but edoc is kind of slightly crazy
18:37:36 <Judofyr> AnMaster: the point was that you can have a file which is both a .jar and a .odt
18:37:37 <AnMaster> it is probably the most weird "generate documentation from source comments" system out there
18:37:49 <Judofyr> so the jar-file IS the documentation too
18:37:52 <AnMaster> Judofyr, well yes of course both are zip
18:38:14 <AnMaster> isn't Microsoft's ooxml or whatever it was called also zip?
18:39:14 <ais523> well, OOXML is sufficiently badly specified that it can't really be calculated
18:39:18 <AnMaster> horrible idea in every possible way
18:39:23 <ais523> looking at what office 2007 does is one way to get some sort of clue
18:39:57 <ais523> still, I hear the standard's about 7500 pages once all the corrections are applied
18:40:18 <AnMaster> ais523, but what about a jar/odt/docx polygot?
18:40:23 <Judofyr> just write the file in Office 07, OO.org and compile the code, then merge all the zips
18:40:27 <AnMaster> let the user select what format they want to open it as
18:40:48 <AnMaster> ais523, the jar would contain a viewer for the same document as an applet or whatever
18:41:27 <AnMaster> hm doesn't jadetex? exist. quite close to that ;)
18:41:39 <Judofyr> it could be a great way to bundle documents, though
18:41:52 <AnMaster> Judofyr, you mean in many formats?
18:41:59 <ais523> hmm... what other ZIP-pased formats can we polyglot with it?
18:42:04 <Judofyr> create it as a jar-file which detects if you have Office or OO
18:42:08 <ais523> maybe you should put a Makefile and some sources in there
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18:42:28 <AnMaster> ais523, well sure, but you would have to extract it first
18:42:45 <AnMaster> and well I don't know, but what about spreadsheet formats? or such
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18:42:51 <ais523> yes, but a .zip archive with Makefile and/or configure script is reasonably common
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18:43:22 <AnMaster> ais523, you could probably select the zip encoding to create valid brainfuck
18:43:32 <Judofyr> and then it opens the file using the installed program
18:43:35 <AnMaster> probably with suboptimal compression then
18:43:36 <ais523> probably not valid INTERCAL though
18:43:41 <ais523> unless you could get it to start DONOT
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18:44:53 <AnMaster> Judofyr, I don't know that for sure
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18:45:23 <Judofyr> but a .odtx is actually a nice idea
18:45:31 <ais523> no it isn't, it's a horrible idea
18:45:52 <Judofyr> correction: it's a nice hack
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18:46:28 <ais523> OOXML is horrible enough that it I don't like thinking about it
18:46:34 <ais523> although it's called OXML nowadays
18:46:39 <ais523> they dropped the "Office" from the name
18:46:53 <AnMaster> ais523, as long as they don't try to get that as a standard...
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18:47:05 <ais523> it was ISO who changed the name
18:47:14 <ais523> and I think it's going to become an ISO standard
18:47:20 <AnMaster> ais523, I hope they say no again
18:47:25 <ais523> as soon as the editors finish applying all the 2000 or so pages of changes
18:47:33 <ais523> they said yes the second time, in controversial circumstances
18:47:36 <ais523> then 4 countries appealed
18:48:26 <ais523> OTOH everyone is ignoring the resulting standard
18:48:56 <AnMaster> at least MS have to follow it now IMO
18:49:10 <ais523> at least not in the current version of Office
18:49:18 <ais523> they are supporting ODF, though, in a service pack
18:49:25 <ais523> and don't ask me, I'm not Microsoft
18:49:31 <ais523> although my guess is that it's because it's too difficult
18:49:57 <AnMaster> ais523, they could have selected to use odf with custom extensions instead or something
18:50:09 <AnMaster> or just plain odf would be better
18:50:16 <AnMaster> ais523, how long is the odf standard?
18:50:18 <ais523> well, yes, that's what they should do
18:50:23 <ais523> AnMaster: much shorter then the OOXML standard
18:50:26 <ais523> I'll download it and have a look
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18:53:07 <ais523> which is the current version
18:53:22 <ais523> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/22154/OpenDocument-v1.1.odt
18:53:29 <ais523> but it's full of examples
18:53:45 <ais523> and it has to define all the attributes needed for 3 different sorts of documents
18:53:57 <ais523> so slightly bigger than C99 seems reasonable IMO
18:54:03 <AnMaster> and I think C99 standard is huge
18:54:12 <AnMaster> iirc the scheme standard is way way smaller
18:54:15 <pikhq> It's better than OOXML, though.
18:54:29 <AnMaster> I think I read that one version was like 50 pages or so
18:54:31 <oerjan> the scheme standard is famous for being small, i think
18:54:41 <oerjan> or was until the latest versions...
18:54:50 <pikhq> 2 thousand-something pages and counting...
18:55:10 <ais523> the original version of OOXML was 6000 pages
18:55:16 <ais523> 2000 was the number of pages of /corrections/ that were suggested
18:56:43 <ais523> that's a good question...
18:56:59 <Judofyr> 6000 pages? is that actually necessary?
18:57:06 <ais523> obviously not, as ODF is a lot shorter
18:57:08 <pikhq> Among other things, they created a math markup language...
18:57:12 <pikhq> For *no good reason*.
18:57:20 <ais523> the problem is that ODF relies on a whole lot of established standards, which is fine
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18:57:30 <ais523> whereas OOXML re-invented most of ISO, by the look of it
18:57:38 <Judofyr> pikhq: the alternatives weren't created by Microsoft...
18:57:55 <ais523> well, a standard entirely created by one company is suspicious
18:58:33 <pikhq> They also have 3 different ways of specifying a table.
18:58:56 <Judofyr> Norway has chosen to use ODT, PDF & HTML for all official papers : -)
18:59:26 <pikhq> One of which is also a vector graphics format.
18:59:37 <Judofyr> http://virtuelvis.com/archives/2007/12/norway-mandates-html-pdf-odf
18:59:54 <ais523> Judofyr: I knew about Norway, it's not the only country doing that
19:00:05 <ais523> although #esoteric has sufficiently many Norwegians that perhaps it's the most relevant here
19:00:44 <ais523> oerjan is Norwegian IIRC
19:00:58 <ais523> and from somewhere I remember there was another
19:01:21 <ais523> hmm... is there a third, or is my memory playing up?
19:01:43 <ais523> out of the other countries that have adopted ODF...
19:01:49 <ais523> well, there's South Africa
19:02:17 <AnMaster> <pikhq> Among other things, they created a math markup language... <-- mathml iirc?
19:02:29 <ais523> MathML is a separate standard
19:02:36 <ais523> OXML has its own math markup
19:02:47 * ais523 tries to remember what it was called
19:03:06 <ais523> Judofyr: actually all the equations in the original OOXML standard were JPEGs
19:03:15 <ais523> yes, feel free to laugh, I am
19:03:46 <ais523> JPEG is not very good for equations...
19:04:47 <ais523> ODF is actually pretty good, I wrote a pro
19:04:49 <AnMaster> it is so much more awesome for documents than even odf
19:04:54 <ais523> for instance OpenOffice's macro language is rubish
19:04:57 <Judofyr> blurry images are so cute!
19:05:13 <ais523> so I wrote a program that just parsed the .ods file directly
19:05:18 <ais523> it wasn't too hard to figure out
19:05:28 <ais523> spreadsheet format from ODF
19:05:42 <ais523> .odt for documents, .ods for spreadsheets, .odp for presentations
19:05:44 <AnMaster> for text I prefer LaTeX or even LyX
19:06:04 <ais523> although not perfectly
19:06:09 <AnMaster> ais523, I think LaTeX is turing complete
19:06:18 <ais523> I wouldn't be surprised
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19:06:29 <ais523> one of the ICFP entries last year was written in TeX
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19:06:45 <tusho> ais523: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
19:06:51 <AnMaster> ais523, I used a non-esoteric latex program that generated a natbib style file
19:06:51 <Mony> bbbbbbbbbbbbbb
19:06:56 <AnMaster> ais523, it was indeed coded in latex
19:07:10 <Judofyr> tusho: I think so. there was something at reddit a few days ago
19:07:30 <tusho> ais523: what place were you
19:07:43 <ais523> http://www.icfpcontest.org/results/
19:07:46 <AnMaster> excuse me for asking instead of googling, but my system is already swap trashing so I don't want to start a browser: what is ICFP?
19:07:46 <ais523> you can look at the same time I do
19:07:57 <ais523> AnMaster: the ICFP contest is a programming contest
19:08:10 <AnMaster> ais523, ah, what is special with it?
19:08:23 <ais523> it's just relatively famous
19:08:28 <ais523> and attracts quite a lot of entries
19:08:35 <AnMaster> ais523, nothing like obfuscation or such?
19:08:49 <Judofyr> didn't a Java-team win something?
19:08:52 <ais523> but there are strict time limits
19:09:05 <ais523> they set a task description
19:09:23 <ais523> and they have prizes for the best entry within 24 hours and the best three entries within 72 hours
19:09:27 <AnMaster> ais523, was it the mars rover one?
19:09:32 * Sgeo wishes the IRTC was still running (yes, I know that has nothing to do with programming)
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19:10:19 <ais523> ah, I was eliminated at Lightning-8 and Final-9
19:10:48 <Judofyr> TeX: http://sdh33b.blogspot.com/2008/07/icfp-contest-2008.html
19:11:11 <Judofyr> it uses Perl for network access, though
19:11:33 <ais523> they haven't put up all the details of the trials yet though
19:12:16 <Judofyr> Overall winner: Team Smartass wins again. Java is the programming language of choice for discriminating hackers.
19:12:38 <Judofyr> Top 10 languages: Top 10 languages: Java, C++, Java, Haskell, Haskell, C , C++ , C , C++, C++
19:12:49 <Judofyr> sauce: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/735fx/live_from_icfp_2008_icfp_programming_contest/c05jyov
19:13:33 <ais523> that was such an obvious contest to use imperative languages on, thouhg
19:13:42 <ais523> and it's meant to encourage functional programming...
19:17:34 <AnMaster> ais523, so you didn't even reach the top 10?
19:17:58 <ais523> why did you expect me to?
19:18:04 <ais523> Judofyr: I entered as ais523
19:18:10 <ais523> and there wasn't anyone else in my team
19:20:29 <AnMaster> ais523, I expected it as your app was good
19:20:41 <AnMaster> iirc you showed me some code from it
19:20:51 <ais523> well, so were many of the others
19:20:59 <ais523> you get some excellent programmers entering the ICFP contest
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19:44:34 <tusho> i have been doing the same on here thing since 3pm and it is terminally boring
19:48:02 <ais523> tusho: typing random letters into a channel?
19:48:09 <ais523> come over to ##nomic and start up a conversation
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19:56:20 <oklocop> i already did, ais523 clearly set up for a better pun than mine
19:56:39 <ais523> actually, I wasn't setting up for a pun
19:56:41 <oerjan> hm interesting, a grounded recursive acronym:
19:56:43 <oklocop> i mean, i had all the ingredients, murphy = law, cop = law, but i kinda blew it
19:56:56 <oerjan> 'TTC - Stands for "The TTC Company"'
19:56:56 <ais523> but referring to someone who was genuinely called murphy that both me and tusho know
19:57:05 <oklocop> i basically just said "lol pun elements! look i found them myself"
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20:14:20 <tusho> "This changes EVERYTHING!"
20:14:33 <oerjan> we've been discussing his quit messages before :)
20:15:04 <oerjan> this one was a new one i think
20:38:37 <AnMaster> yeah except the downside: there is as far as I know yet no 1.5 style theme for it
20:39:14 <Deewiant> http://webdesigns.ms11.net/winstripethemes.html ?
20:39:42 <Deewiant> I don't know, I googled that, is that it?
20:39:44 <AnMaster> well was some time ago I last checked
20:40:30 <AnMaster> Deewiant, which haven't been updated
20:41:10 <Deewiant> that was linked from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3479
20:41:25 <AnMaster> however doesn't look exactly the same
20:41:39 <Deewiant> but, meh... my favoured theme doesn't exist for 3.0 either, but oh well
20:41:56 <Deewiant> the advantages of a good browser outweigh those of a good theme IMO :-P
20:42:17 <AnMaster> Deewiant, I include "usable" in "good"
20:42:28 <AnMaster> and I argue both 2.0 and 3.0 themes are "not usable"
20:42:50 <Deewiant> you've tried all the existing themes, then?
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20:43:26 <Deewiant> except in the days of 0.4 I guess
20:43:26 <AnMaster> Deewiant, well 1.5 standard theme rocked
20:43:38 <AnMaster> Deewiant, hehe I used opera back then iirc
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20:50:40 <AnMaster> Deewiant, what happened to thunderbird 3.0 btw?
20:51:32 <Deewiant> what do you mean what happened? :-P
20:51:53 <Deewiant> it's in development, alphas are out AFAIK
20:52:06 <tusho> the firefox 3 theme is usable & fine btw.
20:52:10 <tusho> also /me uses webkit nightlies
20:56:40 <AnMaster> tusho, you forgot an important word there
20:56:54 <tusho> AnMaster: let me guess
20:57:11 <AnMaster> "<tusho> the firefox 3 theme is usable & fine btw" << add "IMO", it is subjective, not some universal "truth"
20:57:41 <tusho> AnMaster: if we follow that route then everything everyone says has to end in IMO because everything humans say is subjective to themselves, IMO
20:57:43 <AnMaster> and it is completely subjective
20:58:08 <AnMaster> tusho, depends, some things are objective. Like the speed of light
20:58:27 <AnMaster> and everything else is relative it
20:58:35 <tusho> AnMaster: it's still IMO in that "it's what I've heard"
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20:59:10 <AnMaster> tusho, interesting, but don't you agree certain things, like taste, is more subjective than other things?
20:59:30 <tusho> AnMaster: did you recognize that was i say was subjective?
20:59:33 <tusho> yes you did. so there's no need to mark it
21:07:18 <tusho> ais523: buffer overflow red
21:11:11 <tusho> which you just lost
21:11:13 <tusho> and because I won it
21:13:20 <oerjan> apparently not mine either
21:13:21 <oerjan> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whatev
21:15:23 <oerjan> hmph those explanations all miss the point
21:15:49 <oerjan> it's not because the word is cool, it's because you care _so_ little you don't bother to finish it...
21:19:57 <oerjan> ah it's finally on no. 11
21:20:25 <tusho> A short version of the word whatever that lazy/stupid people use cause they THINK it sounds cool, but it's not. Only time it was cool is when Erin used it, and when she stopped it was deemed uncool.
21:21:24 <ais523> some person who defines cool, obviously
21:21:26 <oerjan> but not enough to google it
21:21:34 <ais523> oerjan: I doubt you could find that by googling
21:23:22 <oerjan> hm indee is a record company
21:24:16 <oerjan> tusho: why the vocalization?
21:24:37 <oerjan> tusho: why the consonance?
21:25:17 <oerjan> now where did i put that flyswatter...
21:26:19 * oerjan chases after tusho ---##
21:26:39 * tusho stares at oerjan blankly
21:27:08 <oerjan> what shall we now do with the quit/join spammers, i ask you
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21:27:38 <ais523> oerjan: before you said that, did we have any quit/join spammers?
21:28:19 * oerjan recalls ais523 being one
21:28:45 <ais523> oerjan: ah, that isn't deliberate, it's my connection messing up
21:28:53 <ais523> and there's not much I can do about it apart from not joining the channel
21:28:58 <tusho> he means unintentional ones
21:30:00 <oerjan> the intentional ones, we ban.
21:30:27 <oerjan> or would, if lament were around
21:30:47 <oerjan> isn't fizzie an op too?
21:31:15 <tusho> fizzie: are you an op?
21:31:34 <ais523> fungot: are you an op?
21:31:35 <fungot> ais523: you installed mandrake, right?
21:32:45 <tusho> optbot: You are an op.
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21:32:45 <optbot> tusho: I actually did it because I couldn't understand parts of Turing's article
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21:34:28 <tusho> use your opular powers to kick me
21:34:53 <oerjan> that would be a popular ower
21:35:23 <tusho> fizzie, lament ... do we have ops that actually do things
21:35:54 <oerjan> i think i've seen actual spammers handled
21:35:57 <fizzie> Didn't I already ban you once when you said you wanted it? Or have I just been imagining things again?
21:36:22 <oerjan> fizzie: knowing tusho, that seems extremely statistically likely
21:36:46 <tusho> fizzie: you did, yeah.
21:36:50 <fizzie> I think all we got out of that one was few minutes of pointlessness, unsurprisingly.
21:37:20 <oerjan> fizzie: wait a minute, shouldn't that have _increased_ signal to noise ratio?
21:37:25 <tusho> fizzie: it was fun! i was the brother that doesn't exist.
21:37:43 <fizzie> You were the brother?! Shocking!
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21:38:03 <oerjan> oh right. i think i remember that. not that you were banned first though...
21:38:11 <tusho> fizzie: better ban me now...
21:38:26 <oerjan> can you impersonate someone who doesn't exist?
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21:38:56 <oerjan> hm Judofyr could use a swatting
21:39:07 <tusho> oerjan: it was done twice actually
21:39:11 <tusho> same brother-routine each time
21:39:14 <tusho> once by lament once by fizzie
21:39:17 * oerjan kicks tusho in the stomach, causing him to throw the swatter up at Judofyr
21:39:49 <KingOfKarlsruhe> scheme is like a esoteric languange http://paste.pocoo.org/show/86466/
21:39:53 * ais523 places a large net in the middle of the situation, causing it to become a lot more confusing and amusing
21:40:16 <ais523> KingOfKarlsruhe: that doesn't look all that eso to me
21:43:16 <Judofyr> KingOfKarlsruhe: I would expect more of Scheme than that: (html (head (title "My Title) ) (body (h1 "My Site") (p "Welcome!")))
21:43:59 <Deewiant> Judofyr: but can you define html, head, title, body, h1, and p, in two lines? :-)
21:44:18 <Judofyr> Deewiant: I demand method_missing!
21:44:29 <tusho> Deewiant: very easy
21:44:29 <Judofyr> KingOfKarlsruhe: nice! I've always wanted to try Scheme..
21:44:30 <tusho> just have something like
21:44:35 <Deewiant> I don't know if Scheme can do that
21:44:40 <tusho> (run-html `(p "hello" ,(+ 2 2)))
21:44:43 <tusho> and parse it as lists
21:44:54 <tusho> essentially write a mini interp
21:45:01 <Deewiant> tusho: if it's two lines and very easy, just do it live ;-)
21:46:37 <Judofyr> I played with the idea to use a Java API to parse the DTD in JRuby in order to generate Ragel code which generated C which should be used in Ruby, so you can't do stuff like body { title "Hello!" }
21:47:35 <Judofyr> validating & generation XML on-the-go :-)
21:48:14 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | dang!.
21:48:30 <oerjan> optbot: you've been very brief lately
21:48:31 <optbot> oerjan: at least i haven't managed to mess anything yet
21:48:44 <ais523> optbot: that's debatable, look at fungot for instance
21:48:44 <fungot> ais523: fnord fnord __ a____.
21:48:45 <optbot> ais523: It's a lot cleaner than common lisp, though.
21:48:57 <fungot> Deewiant: you can't return the value
21:50:45 <fungot> tusho: include() is pretty fnord.)
21:54:37 <fungot> Deewiant: that's a fnord... so far they seem to have this kind of meeting, never mind
21:55:09 <oerjan> fungot seems a bit paranoid to me
21:55:09 <fungot> oerjan: yet euclid's proof is considered one of the controls in a gui
21:55:41 <oerjan> i think fungot might be Gene Ray in disguise
21:55:42 <fungot> oerjan: so if we can get riastradh to beat you about the irc protocol
21:55:42 <ais523> <fungot> oerjan: yet euclid's proof is considered one of the controls in a gui
21:55:42 <fungot> ais523: ' re already dead".
21:56:28 <ais523> Deewiant: not in Win32, anyway, not sure about other GUIs
21:56:33 <oerjan> or maybe fungot is too coherent for that
21:56:33 <fungot> oerjan: paradigm sounds better though :)
21:57:27 <oerjan> fungot: what is it about you and fnords?
21:57:28 <fungot> oerjan: before the copypasta. i bet you someone will make a brainfube.
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