< 1224288256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1224288269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ESO pastebin _finally_ launches, after me working on it for all of 10 minutes. :-P < 1224288278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paste.eso-std.org/. Yes, it's spartan, yes, that's intentional. have fun. < 1224288309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, pastes 1 and 2 (http://paste.eso-std.org/1 and http://paste.eso-std.org/2) are taken from me testing. < 1224288314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can't nab that piece of history. < 1224289286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and now there's a python api (available on the page) < 1224290817 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, it's not written in Brainfuck? :( < 1224290896 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1224291437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: No, i'm not that crazy. < 1224291964 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1224293655 0 :ab5tract!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1224294301 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cafepress.com/bizarregeek.318713308 < 1224294798 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants one. :p < 1224294993 0 :ab5tract!n=ab5tract@pool-71-246-5-13.phlapa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1224295363 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "There is no reason for anyone but Gregor to wear this." < 1224295430 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I want people to choose Gregor's hats? < 1224295431 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1224295438 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'struth. < 1224297064 0 :Jiminy_Cricket!n=bob@adsl-230-201-21.btr.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1224297135 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242397827.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1224297279 0 :omniscient_idiot!n=boa@adsl-230-201-21.btr.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1224297370 0 :ab5tract!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1224298704 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1224299228 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | 6, because the Ex normally means they had to add an extra parameter at some point < 1224307045 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1224307050 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1224307353 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1224308088 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1224312264 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"So, how much do you love noodles?" < 1224316799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1224316800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1224319811 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1224320557 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9438299 4-grams, but it hasn't finished doing whatever it's doing after that. I don't think it should be doing much else than writing things to file, though. < 1224320828 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | chr() arg not in range(256) < 1224321429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, check disk space.. < 1224323289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm? < 1224323442 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1224324642 0 :Mony!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-104-60.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224324691 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plop < 1224325788 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, was building furniture. < 1224325798 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe "assembling" is the correct word. < 1224325842 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has written just 40 megs of model.bin. < 1224325882 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There it runs: < 1224325884 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fis 11679 1.7 67.2 2367952 1385348 pts/10 D+ Oct17 13:30 ./buildlm < 1224325897 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a large process. < 1224325934 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking the whole N-gram tree is too big to fit in memory and it's so udderly slow thanks to all the swapping. < 1224325948 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I should just interrupt it; I'd like to get my web browser back. < 1224327421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Or maybe "assembling" is the correct word. <-- IKEA? < 1224327466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, do you use lots of std:: stuff in that C++ app? < 1224327474 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, to both of those questions. < 1224327479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally they take a bit more memory < 1224327483 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1224327497 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was just convenient. < 1224327504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the time not an issue... but it seems to be here < 1224327517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be impossible to process it in chunks? < 1224327537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and try to keep locality of reference to prevent swapping in/out all the time < 1224327548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead working on the data already in memory < 1224327583 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a big tree, 17581526 nodes. The per-node data structures are not very small either, even though they could be. < 1224327632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, any memory leaks? < 1224327656 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there are, and in any case it just builds the tree and writes it to file; it's not deleting any nodes ever. < 1224327670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1224327683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well making the data more compact could help indeed < 1224327703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making sure to organise structs to prevent holes and padding < 1224327718 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think I could cut memory consumption to a half without too much trouble. < 1224327748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the tool pahole, made for the linux kernel originally, can help with that, it reads debug info and report badly organised structs) < 1224327830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have used it on cfunge to reduce the memory usage) < 1224327931 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even some data duplication here, I have a std::map for children and a std::map for the word-counts, and for every non-leaf node both mappings have the same set of keys. The program is quite the memory hog, but really, I was more concerned in getting it to work at all than making it efficient. < 1224327948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1224328040 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must go to a birthday thing now. With any luck it has finished before I get back, and then I can postpone fixing that C++ code until the next time I have a large amount of data to feed to fungot. < 1224328041 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: premature optimization etc. for now, we're on cleaner topics today. < 1224328056 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, that's even related. < 1224328056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1224328059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1224328074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, idea: ALICE bot in befunge < 1224328076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1224328166 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently fungot's babbling is a bit cheating-like; all the hard work is done by this supporting code, and it doesn't even keep any sort of data structures in funge-space, simply uses FILE's seek/read operations to navigate the resulting tree. < 1224328167 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is arizona fnord herbal tonic any good?) < 1224328212 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Simply based on the name, I don't think I'd buy it. The "fnord" there is suspicious. < 1224328213 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the multiple values to bind, what parameters your procedures accept, and what some of the old lisp os's ( can't remember the last time i checked < 1224328504 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The babble generation is pretty much: len = 0; while (1) { node = root; for (i = 1; i <= len; i++) { if (!node.children[text[len-i]]) { word = random_with_weights(node.words); break; } node = node.children[text[len-i]]; } text.append(word); len++; if (node.canstop && random_stoppage()) break; } < 1224328509 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very easy to do in Befunge. < 1224328511 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the bus is going. -> < 1224333651 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224333896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1224333898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read away messages < 1224334098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn i want this http://www.cafepress.com/bizarregeek.11389675 and this http://www.cafepress.com/bizarregeek.255291006 < 1224334102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the former's colour scheme puts me off < 1224336163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 too < 1224336243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not actually here < 1224336244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1224336384 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm one of the products in "Other items by Bizarre Geek:" there says "Original design by RodgerTheGreat, used with permission" < 1224336392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and? < 1224336394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR runs that store. < 1224336398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah < 1224336403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that was what I was about to ask < 1224336449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to make a book of pages and pages of cellular automata < 1224336452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will title it the null string < 1224336527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate how folklore.org has not been updated since like 2004 and they still haven't added any other collections apart from the original macintosh one < 1224336533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:( < 1224337706 0 :jix!n=jix@lbck-4dbaeae0.pool.einsundeins.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1224337726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the agme? < 1224337730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*game < 1224337732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, I just los it . < 1224337732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1224337744 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck < 1224337749 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I did too :( < 1224337840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/ten_easy_ways_attract_women_your_free_software_project <- Jesus christ, this is a load of sexual bullshit just pandering to a bunch of idiotic stereotypes. < 1224337844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1224337845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexist bullshit < 1224337848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1224337855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol freudian slip because all men think about is sex lol < 1224337931 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1224338007 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird : That's because stereotypes are funny < 1224338025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very useful for serious advice though... < 1224338044 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A top ten list is never serious, ehird < 1224338065 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be "top ten most efficient sorting algorithm" and be a fucking joke < 1224338067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not much making it a top ten beyond the sections being labeled with numbers. < 1224338269 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nargh... because of you i lost the game.... < 1224338286 0 :ENKI-][!n=weechat@c-71-234-190-248.hsd1.ct.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1224338300 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1224338577 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Divers5/1220910895470.jpg < 1224339158 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@i-60.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1224339168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just put a regex ignore on that stuff if you care about it. I certainly don't. < 1224339398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's not easy. < 1224339404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :U l0st the g a e m < 1224339413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I can't read that language. What one is it? < 1224339416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aol? < 1224339433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm seems google translate can't handle AOL < 1224339434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With your sarcastic acknowledgement of it you obviously were able to extract the basic meaning and thus I still succeeded. < 1224339454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I'd advise you stop trying to be funny because you're really not very good at it. (Worse than I.)) < 1224339468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I can see French and guess it is French even though I can't understand it < 1224339484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That was very easily decodable to "U lost the gaem" then "You lose the game". < 1224339499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, "Y o u l o s t t h e g a e m" would work too. < 1224339518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could probably make a bayesian filter < 1224339526 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1224340141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Bayesian filters aren't very good at anything that isn't spam filtering. < 1224340205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1224340211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well it is kind of spam ;P < 1224340224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1224340231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's junk, you might think, but it's not spam. < 1224340253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way, blocking "Y ou los t t he ga m e" without false positives is... difficult. < 1224340253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1224340267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure, and also I don't care about that silly game. < 1224340295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, or ais523: any of you there? < 1224340296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : so just put a regex ignore on that stuff if you care about it. I certainly don't. < 1224340303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Please learn to use /who. < 1224340311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is set as away when he is not there, rather appropriately. < 1224340316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well fizzie then? < 1224340325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check idle time. < 1224340333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has been idle for 3 hours, so you could nickping him and see. < 1224340358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sometimes I idle a lot and I'm just doing other stuff but still notice a highlight on irc < 1224340367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1224340376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The point is... < 1224340383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If fizzie was idle for 20 hours, he's away. < 1224340386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he's idle for 2 minutes, he's here. < 1224340388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's 3 hours, ask. < 1224340391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, or just back. < 1224340392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1224340418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Not the point, you should still check before just uselessly nickpinging someone who possibly isn't even online to see it. < 1224340421 0 :oklocod!n=nnscript@h189049.gprs.dnafinland.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1224340446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and this bothers you so? < 1224340451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1224340472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because about half your lines is "ais523 there?" or "why isn't ais523 here". < 1224340476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/is/are/ < 1224340632 0 :M0ny!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-104-60.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224340680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what is the total set for that half? < 1224340701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1224340716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Yes, because about half your lines is" < 1224340721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean something else I assume? < 1224340730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : s/is/are/ < 1224340733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One. Message. After. < 1224340741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not that.... < 1224340754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes, because about half your lines are "ais523 there?" or "why isn't ais523 here"." < 1224340756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very simple. < 1224340783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ grep -c '' /home/arvid/.xchat2/xchatlogs/FreeNode-#esoteric.log < 1224340783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2904 < 1224340784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ grep '' /home/arvid/.xchat2/xchatlogs/FreeNode-#esoteric.log | grep ais523 | grep there | wc -l < 1224340784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1224340803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha ha ohh you take things literally! < 1224340805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most of those are unrelated < 1224340807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okt 17 19:19:35 ais523, I added the security considerations there < 1224340809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So damn amusing. < 1224340809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1224340821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I decided to do that yes < 1224340827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the statistics were incorrect < 1224340828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When will you get it in to your head that English is more than flat text? < 1224340846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the day you start being funny? < 1224340854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk, busy < 1224340856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not trying to be funny. < 1224340874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fuck this shit, I don't have time for a place that's just been consistently annoying ever since you showed up. < 1224340875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1224341311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he will be 1) log reading 2) be back soon < 1224341315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1224341736 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1224342428 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | ->++>+++>+>+>+++>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>++>+++>++>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>>+++>>+++>>>>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++>>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>>>+>+>>>+>+>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++>++>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>+++>+>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>+++>+>>+++>>+++>>++[[>>+[>]++>++[<]<-]>+[>]<+<+++[<]<+]>+[>]++++>++[[<++++++++++++++++>-]< < 1224343028 0 :GiveMeMony!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-125-31.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224343038 0 :GiveMeMony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum..... < 1224343738 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1224343748 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1224343804 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1224343822 0 :GiveMeMony!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Mony < 1224344132 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1224344423 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224344427 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1224344783 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224344783 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1224344998 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1224345107 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r01jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1224345881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ->++>+++>+>+>+++>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>++>+++>++>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>>+++>>+++>>>>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++>>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>>>+>+>>>+>+>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++>++>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>+++>+>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>+++>+>>+++>>+++>>++[[>>+[>]++>++[<]<-]>+[>]<+<+++[<]<+]>+[>]++++>++[[<++++++++++++++++>-]< < 1224345881 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mismatched []. < 1224345887 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1224345897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the thing in topic is cut off? < 1224346134 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1224346147 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ->++>+++>+>+>+++>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>++>+++>++>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>>+++>>+++>>>>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++>>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>>>+>+>>>+>+>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++>++>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>+++>+>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>+++>+>>+++>>+++>>++[[>>+[>]++>++[<]<-]>+[>]<+<+++[<]<+]>+[>]++++>++[[<++++++++++++++++>-]< < 1224346148 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mismatched []. < 1224346153 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1224346255 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ->++>+++>+>+>+++>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>++>+++>++>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>>+++>>+++>>>>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++>>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>>>+>+>>>+>+>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++>++>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>+++>+>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>+++>+>>+++>>+++>>++[[>>+[>]++>++[<]<-]>+[>]<+<+++[<]<+]>+[>]++++>++ < 1224346262 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1224346275 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no printing commands < 1224346325 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ul < 1224346325 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,[>,]<[<]>[<+4[>-8<-]+>-[-7[-2[<+3[>-4<-]+>[<+4[>-5<-]+>[-11[-3[[-]<2[>[-]>+<2-]>>[<2+>>-]+<[->-<3[[>+<-]<]>>[>]]>[->[>]<[[>+<-]<]<2[[>+<-]<]<[[>+<-]<]>>[>]>[[[>]>+<2[<]>-]<2[[>+<-]<]>>[>]>[>]>[<2[<]<[<]<+>>[>]>[>]>-]<2[<]>]>>[[<+>-]>]<2[<]]]<[->>[>]<[[>>+<2-]<]<2[[>+<-]<]>+>[>]+5[>+8<-]+2>-[<+[<]>+[>]<-]]>]<[->>[[<2+>>-]>]<3[[>+<-]<]]>]<[-<[[<]>.[-]>[[<+>-]>]>>[[<+>-]>]<2[<]<2]>>>[[<+>-]>]<2[<]<]>]<[->>[>]<[[>+<-]<]<2[>>>>[>] < 1224346326 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[] < 1224346333 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1224346337 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onoes! < 1224346350 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1224346351 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1224346375 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++. < 1224346381 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw :( < 1224346431 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+c censors that < 1224346455 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+c? < 1224346460 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel option < 1224346470 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it for colors? < 1224346483 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything annoying :D < 1224346512 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean there wouldn't be much point censoring colors for being annoying if you didn't censor beeps < 1224346589 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it censor anything from 000 to 031? < 1224346849 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@131.151.190.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1224346862 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 001 at least < 1224346864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1224346869 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's needed for actions < 1224346886 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1224346886 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev bf rot13 hi rev2 fib wc ul ctcp < 1224346896 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ctcp ACTION waves < 1224346896 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves < 1224346902 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ctcp < 1224346902 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+.,[.,]+. < 1224346941 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :000 may not be legal in irc at all, not sure < 1224346974 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh let me see < 1224346974 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-192-102-5.zone6.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1224346984 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++[.+] < 1224346984 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : . . !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~€‚ƒ„…†‡ˆ‰Š‹ŒŽ‘’“”•–—˜™š›œžŸ ¡¢£¤¥¦§¨©ª«¬­®¯°±²³´µ¶·¸¹º»¼½¾¿ÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏÐ ... < 1224347013 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the J and M fungot censors itself < 1224347013 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but it's not clear to me where we are permitted to apply a given rule that would give you 0(1) access. < 1224347091 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>++[.<.>+] < 1224347092 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :    . .               ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 : ; < = > ? @ A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z [ \ ] ^ _ ` a b c d e f g h i ... < 1224347157 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>++[.<.>+] < 1224347158 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!!! !.! ! !.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!"!#!$!%!&!'!(!)!*!+!,!-!.!/!0!1!2!3!4!5!6!7!8!9!:!;!!?!@!A!B!C!D!E!F!G!H!I!J!K!L!M!N!O!P!Q!R!S!T!U!V!W!X!Y!Z![!\!]!^!_!`!a!b!c!d!e!f!g!h!i ... < 1224347264 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm interesting one ! is missing between ^B and ^H < 1224347275 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>++[.<.+>+] < 1224347275 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!"#$%&' (.) * +.,-./0123456789:;<=> ?!@"A#B$C%D&E'F(G)H*I+J,K-L.M/N0O1P2Q3R4S5T6U7V8W9X:Y;Z<[=\>]?^@_A`BaCbDcEdFeGfHgIhJiKjLkMlNmOnPoQpRqSrTsUtVuWvXwYxZy[z\{]|^}_~`a€bc‚dƒe„f…g†h‡i ... < 1224347283 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1224347301 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>++[.<.+>+] < 1224347302 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :134567 8.9 : ;.<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMN O!P"Q#R$S%T&U'V(W)X*Y+Z,[-\.]/^0_1`2a3b4c5d6e7f8g9h:i;jm?n@oApBqCrDsEtFuGvHwIxJyKzL{M|N}O~PQ€RS‚TƒU„V…W†X‡YˆZ‰[Š\‹]Œ^_Ž`ab‘c’d“e”f•g–h—i ... < 1224347317 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1224347376 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly some control codes actually work, and swallow part of the other input < 1224347446 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>++[.<.+>+] < 1224347446 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :023456 7.8 9 :.;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLM N!O"P#Q$R%S&T'U(V)W*X+Y,Z-[.\/]0^1_2`3a4b5c6d7e8f9g:h;il?m@nAoBpCqDrEsFtGuHvIwJxKyLzM{N|O}P~QR€ST‚UƒV„W…X†Y‡Zˆ[‰\Š]‹^Œ_`Žabc‘d’e“f”g•h–i ... < 1224347460 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, there _are_ colors < 1224347475 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>++[.<.+>+] < 1224347475 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/12345 6.7 8 9.:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKL M!N"O#P$Q%R&S'T(U)V*W+X,Y-Z.[/\0]1^2_3`4a5b6c7d8e9f:g;hk?l@mAnBoCpDqErFsGtHuIvJwKxLyMzN{O|P}Q~RS€TU‚VƒW„X…Y†Z‡[ˆ\‰]Š^‹_Œ`aŽbcd‘e’f“g”h•i ... < 1224347530 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1224347634 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++.,[.]!67testing < 1224347634 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 ... < 1224347645 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++.,[.,]!67testing < 1224347645 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing < 1224347670 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++.,[.,]!67testing < 1224347670 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :67testing < 1224347701 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one < 1224347949 0 :Corun_!n=Corun@94-192-102-5.zone6.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1224348470 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1224349463 0 :oklocod!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1224349471 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1224349490 0 :oklocod!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1224349495 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokoko < 1224349508 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats oklopol ----### < 1224349538 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oeoeoeoeoeo < 1224349547 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayiayiayi < 1224349560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul < 1224349563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1224349567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul what? < 1224349571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf help < 1224349574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1224349574 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text] < 1224349577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1224349578 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev bf rot13 hi rev2 fib wc ul ctcp < 1224349586 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should ^ul do? < 1224349607 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an underload interpreter < 1224349619 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (AB)S < 1224349622 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AB < 1224349631 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (ABABABABABAB)S < 1224349638 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1224349647 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still the brainfuck version i see < 1224349651 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224349660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1224350861 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224350861 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1224350899 0 :SimonRC_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SimonC < 1224350908 0 :SimonC!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SimonRC < 1224350930 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224350931 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1224351428 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224351428 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1224351763 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my silly shared web hosting doesn't let me use a www.www. subdomain because of their rubbish control panel :( < 1224351796 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1224351831 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-8 < 1224351845 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: I had to sort of trick cpanel to convince it I wanted www.www. < 1224351856 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1224352011 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why do you want that? < 1224352078 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I could probably create w.w.w.w.w.w.domain >_> < 1224352201 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: http://www.www.extra-www.org/ < 1224352217 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: Is their stupid control panel cPanel? < 1224352231 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's "dream"host < 1224352246 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1224352359 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any attempt to create hosting for a domain or subdomain starting with "www" is met with "we set this sub-domain up automatically for you." :( < 1224352406 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/domain or // < 1224352480 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should email them. < 1224352501 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How DARE you refuse my www's! What are you, some WORLD-WIDE-WEB HATER?!" < 1224352679 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1224352719 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1224352727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tim berners-lee replied to my email :o < 1224352802 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: about what,; saying what? < 1224352821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: dates in URI structure < 1224352834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as a question about "Cool URIs don't change") < 1224352857 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1224352862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was asking about "continuous" pages, in that e.g. a news page about foos still being updated today would be odd to be placed at /1998/foos-news < 1224352872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he basically replied saying that it's okay :-P < 1224352901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing interesting, then. < 1224352918 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about URI's like www.www.my-site.com/... < 1224352921 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are those OK? :P < 1224352927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Yes. < 1224352931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, here is a direct quote: < 1224352933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, no-www! < 1224352947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... why did you nickping Asztal for no reason. < 1224352955 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no-no-www! < 1224352963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.www.extra-www.org bitches < 1224352980 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Asztal was trying to create a www.www. domain, but the server's control panel barfed :P < 1224352980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I disagree < 1224352983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: [[I would like to reccomend adding an extra "www." to the start of all your URIs. This should eliminate any date problems with your display of web patriotism. -Tim]] < 1224352985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... why did you nickping Asztal for no reason. < 1224352987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a good reason < 1224352991 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read log < 1224353001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://www.www.extra-www.org/. < 1224353006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and I disagree < 1224353012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't "disagree" with a joke. < 1224353013 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL THEN YOU HATE THE WEB. < 1224353026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, of course I know it is a joke < 1224353033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Disagreeing" with a joke is commonly referred to as "having no sense of humour", which I'd say observation has proved to be quite true.) < 1224353052 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That quote makes no sense :P < 1224353063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: WELL IT'S WHAT HE SAID < 1224353073 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oh I believe you! < 1224353082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I think it is a good joke. I don't think anyone except the actual extra-www website should use it < 1224353094 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Having read Weaving the Web, I would expect that he considers today's web to be Web 0.2, at best.) < 1224353099 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: But only due to my strong conviction for self-delusion do I believe you. < 1224353103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: the semweb stuff is neato. < 1224353109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, "he"? < 1224353110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who? < 1224353115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: TimBL < 1224353117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1224353136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- to reply to an earlier comment, AnMaster: Yes, because in your world humour is confined into rigid boxes marked "humour" and should not intefere with anything outside of the box. < 1224353154 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Howwever, with all thi user-generated content, we are getting there, despite being rather short on the ""semantic" side.) < 1224353156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, which earlier comment < 1224353156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1224353160 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humour sucks, humor is much funnier. < 1224353166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird, I think it is a good joke. I don't think anyone except the actual extra-www website should use it < 1224353166 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuk, hate editing over a crap connection < 1224353171 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :la. < 1224353178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is nothing wrong with a website letting you go to www.www.foo.com, as that is amusing in the vain of www.www.extra-www.org. < 1224353191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, basically I use no-www myself :P < 1224353192 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: no, homor sucks, and homours is funnoier < 1224353194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and another thing < 1224353201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is nothing harmed by humour spilling slightly over from the box called humour into something else. < 1224353208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If things were like that, then this'd be a pretty darn boring place, on account of not existing. < 1224353217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the success of no-www you should create www.www.www.extra-extra-www.org < 1224353219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1224353229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how that actually adds to the humour. < 1224353237 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fails at typing < 1224353242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you lack humor then indeed. < 1224353245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I love how you use obscure TLDs for the links < 1224353261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, or rather: Humor is highly subjective < 1224353264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, I just have standards. (One element is that it has to be funny.) < 1224353279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, humor is always highly subjective < 1224353290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure people share parts < 1224353316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't assume any set of "this this is humor" is better than any other < 1224353318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll have none of that smutty talk in #esoteric, please. < 1224353325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. < 1224353349 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you do, don't spill hummus < 1224353369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's going to be hard to avoid when sharing parts. < 1224353382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but you bet they'll have a cover story. "I was just being modular!" < 1224353413 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: we should demand a www top level domain < 1224353424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, heh. < 1224353430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: brilliant < 1224353437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.www.www.www.www < 1224353439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION agrees with ehird there < 1224353450 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ww as a TLD? < 1224353451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the www.www.www. subdomain of the www.www domain) < 1224353458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, but ICANN will ask a lot of money sadly :/ < 1224353461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's extra-www compliant, ON BOTH SIDES. < 1224353467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, :) < 1224353474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOTH SIDES < 1224353492 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn capitalists < 1224353499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah... < 1224353502 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, domains are backwards anyway < 1224353514 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: you silly UK people < 1224353533 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should hav been big-endian, like oterh types of paths < 1224353564 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly europeans and americans should use big-endian paths, while japanese should use little-endian ones < 1224353571 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and email addresses should be big-endian too < 1224353579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Americans should use mixed-endian < 1224353585 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh? why? < 1224353597 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: linguistics < 1224353608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, just look at the American date format. < 1224353615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no < 1224353620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :native americans should use little-endian < 1224353624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://instantrimshot.com/ < 1224353625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it should be. google.www.com < 1224353628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should I say < 1224353633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://com.instantrimshot/ < 1224353671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no < 1224353671 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :European date format isn't mixed-endian, but it's still backwards. < 1224353676 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider English < 1224353686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The instantrimshot of the com" < 1224353692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1224353697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uris are pretty much perfect < 1224353697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beacuse < 1224353701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that it's foobar < 1224353709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is more important to a person than the fact that it's a company called foobar < 1224353717 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: also, chinese and indonesians should use single token addresses < 1224353717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a nonprofit called foobar < 1224353717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1224353904 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why did you mention linguistics? :D < 1224353960 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: clearly europeans and americans should use big-endian paths, while japanese should use little-endian ones < 1224353972 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1224353979 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont follow why this should be the case tho < 1224353988 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :word order? < 1224354000 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the word orders aren't exactly mirrors of one another < 1224354008 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a joke, btw, so if you disagree with it i'll sic ehird on you :D < 1224354023 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese is SOV while european languages are SVO for the most part < 1224354032 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :celtic languages are VSO < 1224354035 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see recent discussion for that too) < 1224354038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive's rigid joke standards strike again < 1224354060 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and spanish and italian can occasionally get OVS, which IS the exact opposite of english. < 1224354064 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: i think you are now officially without a sense of humor < 1224354085 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i laugh at big bang theory. :| < 1224354086 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well so can other germanic languages < 1224354094 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1224354098 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :germany languages have V2 word order < 1224354113 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they can get any word order with the verb second < 1224354118 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PP-V < 1224354120 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :S-V < 1224354122 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O-V < 1224354126 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adv-V < 1224354153 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :german can only do it in main clauses, interestingly, while yiddish and danish, i believe, can do it in subordinate clauses < 1224354169 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1224354218 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: also i was not considering the entire word order, only general mostly head-final vs. mostly head-initial < 1224354247 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well japanese is indeed uniformly head-final, except with the case of demonstratives, which might tell us something about demonstratives < 1224354262 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but english and other SVO languages tend not to be head initial, even mostly. < 1224354265 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're sort of half-half < 1224354296 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a technical sense, the difference is that japanese is almost uniformly Specifier-Complement-Head word order, with English being Specifier-Head-Complement < 1224354311 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess with regards to Head-Complement ordering you're correct < 1224354330 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what about romance languages? < 1224354341 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :romance languages are also usually S-H-C < 1224354348 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they frequently put adjectives last < 1224354354 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed they do < 1224354361 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but adjectives are adjuncts < 1224354363 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not specs or comps < 1224354370 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and adjunct ordering tends to be fairly arbitrary < 1224354385 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trend, infact, is that languages with V-O word order tend to also have N-Adj word order < 1224354400 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes germanic languages rather unusual in that regard < 1224354423 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a complement then? prepositional clauses and the like? < 1224354428 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuh < 1224354450 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, the idea of Specs and Complements in minimalism is like so: < 1224354511 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have some operation called merge that takes two things and sticks them together in a bundle < 1224354512 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think old norse put adjectives last somewhat more frequently < 1224354515 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hungarian has free word order too... Quite a source of confusion (initially, anyway) combined with dropping pronouns and the 3rd person "is/are". :( < 1224354524 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this bundle has some distinguished member called the Head < 1224354541 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first member merged with a head is called the complement < 1224354549 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last is called the complement < 1224354559 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1224354565 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have something like this: [Spec [Head Complement]] < 1224354617 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its essentially a theory-internal matter. complements are sisters-to-heads, specifiers are daughters-to-the-final-phrase < 1224354734 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know its kind of confusing. like i said, its kind of theory internal < 1224354785 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another way to look at it is like this: < 1224354803 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heads seem to be able to put restrictions on their complements, but not on their specifiers. < 1224354912 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give an example of a nominal phrase with both spec and complement? < 1224354935 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nouns generally dont take complements, but sure < 1224354956 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that explains why i felt it didn't fit < 1224354960 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. nominal phrases also don't seem to be headed by a noun.. :p < 1224354975 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1224354987 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it seems weird, but its apparently correct < 1224354987 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this theory is getting less intuitive all the time < 1224354988 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1224355006 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, well, intuition never did make sense in science :) < 1224355013 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can give you a full nominal phrase that has multiple specs and complements < 1224355021 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1224355026 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first i suggest you open this page: http://ironcreek.net/phpsyntaxtree/? < 1224355034 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and draw this tree: [XP Spec [X' [X] [Comp]]] < 1224355052 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that'll give you a nice clear visual template for what specs and comps are < 1224355078 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1224355120 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(done btw) < 1224355180 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[DP [DP John] [D' [D 's] [NP [N student] [PP [P of] [DP linguistics]]]]] < 1224355185 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw that < 1224355221 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing labeled [D 's] is the head of the main DP, as you can see by the projections of D above it: D->D'->DP < 1224355252 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[DP John], to the left of D', is the specifier of [D 's] because it's the last thing to join up before the main DP < 1224355279 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[NP student of linguistics] is the complement to [D 's], because its the first item that joins up with [D 's] < 1224355292 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying "'s" is the head of that phrase? O_O < 1224355302 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be the case :p < 1224355313 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but dont think of heads as being what the phrase is about < 1224355329 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of heads as more like functions in function applications < 1224355340 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and infact, when we say it like that, it sounds completely correct right? < 1224355345 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functions in Function-Applications < 1224355359 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Function-Applications are like Determiner-Phrases < 1224355367 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Function-Application is about the function, is it? < 1224355371 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh like 's is an operator < 1224355379 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. and a Determiner-Phrase is not about the determiner < 1224355414 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything, a Noun Phrase isn't about a noun, either < 1224355423 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole nominal phrase is about something in the WORLD < 1224355427 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like.. a person, or a substance, or an event < 1224355441 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the words themselves are just things that describe that referent, even nouns. < 1224355447 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway < 1224355467 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[PP of lx] is the complement to [N student] because its the first thing that joins with [N student] < 1224355486 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _does_ seem weird to consider the complement to be the _first_ thing joined though, since "'s student of linguistics" does not have meaning alone < 1224355488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yawn < 1224355490 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and [DP linguistics] is the complement to [P of] for similar reasons < 1224355506 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we're thinking in bottom up building of the sentence < 1224355517 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, you're right that ['s ...] has no meaning by itself < 1224355520 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :atleast no complete meaning < 1224355522 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so what? < 1224355526 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isnt about meaning < 1224355528 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its about structure < 1224355532 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1224355674 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh why isn't "of" the head of "student of linguistics"? < 1224355698 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of is a preposition and so heads a preposition phrase < 1224355704 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"student of linguistics" isnt a preposition phrase < 1224355713 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :further more, you don't /need/ the preposition phrase < 1224355730 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats getting into more weird shit that complicates things < 1224355734 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 's tails a possessive phrase, so they seem analogous just reversed < 1224355734 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :selectional requirements, etc. < 1224355745 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but "John's" /is/ completely acceptable. < 1224355747 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(making up terms here) < 1224355763 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont need the noun-phrase that follows. < 1224355765 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :furthermore < 1224355771 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have D's like "that" < 1224355776 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that dog" <> "that" < 1224355819 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like i said, now we're getting into more complicated shit < 1224355831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yawn < 1224355853 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i think that's about enough < 1224355857 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1224355861 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1224356245 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah-hah, something like 24 hours of computation, resulting in: "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'char const*'" < 1224356258 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1224356261 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame you can't like < 1224356268 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :save state up to that point, go in and fix the code < 1224356273 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then start from there on < 1224356284 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats probably possible in smalltalk. < 1224356292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1224356298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: run it on a cluster next time :P < 1224356348 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I think I'll just use a bit less of them input. < 1224356434 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is probably because I use four-"byte" integers which use 7-bit bytes (because it's unspecified whether FILE's "read characters" instruction does sign-extension or not for values >= 128), so there's a limit of 2^(4*7) = 2^28 = ~270 million for some things like file offsets. < 1224356447 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRC-built language model file is already 200 megs, this one was probably bit too much. < 1224356551 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll just use something like a thousand ten-minute conversations instead of six thousand. < 1224356614 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for those automated conversation bots people: http://www.mezzacotta.net/ < 1224356624 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate those conversation bots < 1224356629 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the ones for the loebner prize < 1224356639 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone thinks the loebner prize is a real turing test < 1224356643 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its fucking not. < 1224356645 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of fungot and optbot here... < 1224356645 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how goes cfunge stuff? < 1224356645 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: later tell jonnay riastradh also, in the transformation process.) < 1224356645 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not by a long shot. < 1224356754 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: well that link is even more half-baked, as you might guess < 1224356810 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1224356862 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's an impressive archive ;D < 1224357114 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1224357123 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1224357441 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1224357442 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1224357448 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone said something about hungarian free word order < 1224357451 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not entirely free. :) < 1224357462 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic before main verb, iirc < 1224357467 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that focus < 1224357486 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WH phrases in questions front, obligatorially < 1224357508 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and adpositions have well defined positions relative to their modifier phrases < 1224357522 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :modified* < 1224357527 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd also bet that relative clauses and adjectives and such have to be in specific places too. < 1224357545 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'd also wager that the free word order isn't free at all, but rather, pragmatically determined. < 1224357557 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do recall adjectives being in front of nouns < 1224357658 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-254-104.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1224357741 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, fungot, try speaking like you're having a telephone conversation. < 1224357741 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( ( noise noise uh-hum)) < 1224357758 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Okay, that's not quite what I had in mind... < 1224357758 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: on my earphones and ah that's < 1224357761 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some really bad phone < 1224357854 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Sounds like someone interrupted you. < 1224357854 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they're doing a survey on how people feel about it laughter < 1224357881 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of things like "[laughter]" in those transcriptions, and fungot just discards []s. < 1224357881 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: he's got to)) < 1224357898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what the double-parentheses notation meant. < 1224357956 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's still not as good as the IRC logs, meh. < 1224357985 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you feel smarter now? < 1224357985 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ah that's a hobby < 1224358012 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well, I'm glad you're making the attempt, at least < 1224358012 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: you know unless ah one it seems like < 1224358049 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ... even though you're not really succeeding. < 1224358049 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i have a four year old twins < 1224358072 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1224358096 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well, it can't be yours, you're not that old yourself < 1224358096 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: this so that's how i learned so < 1224358121 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you telling me you wrote two other befunge bots, or what? < 1224358121 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: topic is so mind boggling and i i really < 1224358122 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to get breakfast. < 1224358186 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think fungot's finally losing it < 1224358187 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yeah yeah true)) don't think that's < 1224358235 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: well with four year old twins life can be quite stressful < 1224358248 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: especially when you're not that old yourself < 1224358281 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends how you reckon. how many human years in a bot year? < 1224358342 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I figure the twins must be bots too < 1224358456 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but fungot might well be a old, old fart in bot years. < 1224358456 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i mean they my kids came up i said okay this is my < 1224358484 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: perhaps you've got botheimer's? < 1224358484 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right and shaping the minds of the future < 1224358502 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that's scary < 1224358502 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you try to make um there's a lot < 1224358620 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: A lot of what? < 1224358620 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( ( so uh it's one of those < 1224358696 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't say this telephone conversation experiment has been very successful, though we did learn that fungot has kids. < 1224358696 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and it's a great tool < 1224359812 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adopted kids, at that < 1224359840 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how did you trick them into letting you adopt? < 1224359840 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: ( ( lipsmack well what a wonderful thing < 1224359887 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see where it was mentioned they were adopted < 1224360172 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Deewiant: i have a four year old twins < 1224360172 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: hi how you doing < 1224360173 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : fungot: well, it can't be yours, you're not that old yourself < 1224360174 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: where are from actually i < 1224360208 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm from England. Do continue... < 1224360208 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: and do you see what i'm saying < 1224360249 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could be simply stolen instead of adopted. Have you been participating in an illegal baby-smuggling operation, fungot? (As opposed to all the *legal* baby-smuggling, I guess.) < 1224360249 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you know if they < 1224360466 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot seems to have a problem with not finishing its < 1224360466 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: ( ( yeah so am i)) don't think that's right < 1224361731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1224361749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what word list is that? < 1224361840 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's that Fisher "conversational telephone speech" corpus I was talking about. < 1224361848 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that it's only one sixth of it, due to problems. < 1224363141 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1224363409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1224363411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi < 1224363412 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: in a theater or watching a movie < 1224363415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nope < 1224363415 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: are you which part < 1224363418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nope < 1224363418 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that's what she does and she emails but < 1224363426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: make it feed the input sentence into the markov chain < 1224363426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1224363431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh idea < 1224363438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make the phrase put in the first word < 1224363442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then cut off the first word at the end < 1224363443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact-maker! < 1224363453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the scheme programming language" "... is awesome" < 1224363599 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suddenly envision loading fungot with a telemarketing corpus for that < 1224363599 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah and understandably because of our policies but < 1224363836 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'd need to convert text to tokens in the Funge code for that. < 1224363850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Just shell out to the c++ :P < 1224363856 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cheating! < 1224363869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but. < 1224363933 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Away now. < 1224363959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psht. < 1224364028 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | There is none. < 1224364049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no psht? < 1224364056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hm? < 1224364056 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah i would < 1224364061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, would what? < 1224364061 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ( ( you know um certainly in the younger grades i think they < 1224364069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what's with those (( ? < 1224364086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, you seem to "um" a lot? < 1224364086 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah i used to < 1224364096 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, So you stopped now? < 1224364096 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ( ( noise noise noise noise noise < 1224364099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1224364166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you heard what optbot said < 1224364166 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: But some clients freak out when they recieve notices. < 1224364182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: You make more sense than fungot. < 1224364183 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: most of us even want to be at that before we were even thought of < 1224364183 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Its not one step. He uses a for loop. < 1224364183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, what? Sounds like bad clients to me < 1224364184 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "what is do im half\nmarkov" < 1224364196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it would do... Since it uses plain quotes < 1224364329 0 :atrapado!n=mnh@217.168.11.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1224364414 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're like duals, order and chaos < 1224364448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: be confusing < 1224364448 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The language with only one instruction. < 1224364452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: be confusing some more < 1224364452 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: # 2 < 1224364458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not really. < 1224365150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, 3! < 1224365151 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: By the way, if you understood that.... < 1224365156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, Yes? < 1224365156 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Hmm. < 1224365164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, Hmm what? < 1224365164 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how does c++ do abstract classes < 1224365217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, Using some sort of pointer table for virtual functions in general I believe, so I guess the same way... But I'm hardly an expert on that. < 1224365218 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: OH < 1224365225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, that explained it? < 1224365226 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: install.sh < 1224365236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, You certainly like changing topic a lot... < 1224365236 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: oh god < 1224365242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, what happened!? < 1224365242 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I actually need to upload my latest plof2js < 1224365249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plof2js?! < 1224365253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like GregorR... < 1224365257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1224365781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1224365964 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's some sort of notation in the transcriptions. < 1224366004 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure where they put the documentation (as opposed to the raw data) of the thing, so I can't check what it meant. < 1224366092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1224366100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does the license allow this? < 1224366133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also you may be interesting to know that ATHR is progressing nicely, still a lot to do to get it done, but I already managed several points on the road map < 1224366150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(combined roadmap/todo/design/ideas) < 1224366184 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it allows just about anything we care to use it for, as long as we don't distribute the stuff. A couple of messed-up quotations is not really copying; OTOH IANAL, so I probably won't leave it up. < 1224366205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, http://rafb.net/p/GMoXXJ83.html < 1224366212 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Portions of speech where the transcriber could not be sure exactly what was said were marked with double parentheses -- " (( ... )) " -- and the transcriber could hazard a guess as to what was said, or leave the region between parentheses blank." < 1224366251 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, the "noise" one? < 1224366260 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anywhere where's there ((s. < 1224366263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1224366271 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, are there a lot of those? < 1224366281 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All kinds of "uh mm" type utterances. < 1224366310 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The noise one was probably (( [noise] )) or something, fungot just throws the []s out. < 1224366310 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so has your life changed much since september eleventh < 1224366340 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Not to sound insensitive, but not really. < 1224366340 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: some car with that < 1224366389 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 40 topics they had people discuss, let's see what kind of selection the bot got. < 1224366527 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite wide, actually; topics from 12 to 29 occur in those files I used. < 1224366621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1224366928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 9/11 was an inside job WAKE UP SHEEPLE < 1224366928 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what are we going to reach the top i just drew a straight line < 1224366935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ... you did 9/11? < 1224366935 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: in other words i suppose < 1224366940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: wow. :\ < 1224366940 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh really that would be < 1224366948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no that's not ok man, not cool >:( < 1224366948 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: but er i'm in a < 1224366955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: DON'T DODGE THE ISSUE < 1224366961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1224366962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1224366974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I broke it. < 1224366989 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just the ignore mode, I think. < 1224367042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh. Darn. < 1224367046 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Considering that you were "born" not too long ago, how come you're responsible for the 9/11 thing? You used TRDS to time travel or something? < 1224367047 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah you find less opportunities to uh < 1224367082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: bot babies < 1224367082 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh i had mine on my shoulder ' cause um < 1224367091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: be careful with them, you might drop em < 1224367092 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: and uh uh mn)) < 1224367098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: DON'T DODGE ISSUES < 1224367098 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ( ( well)) < 1224367102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: STOPPIT < 1224367102 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: but you know you could do < 1224367106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: >:E < 1224367138 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's so contemptuous. < 1224367139 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so um yeah and then the second one was a good thing to have < 1224367691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1224367743 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not really any punctuation in the transcripts, so fungot doesn't do it either. < 1224367743 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah um it's cough < 1224367772 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all like "my dad has thirteen brothers and sisters you know family can be all different kinds of things it can be friends it can be people you work with if you're close i guess it's all the" < 1224368012 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Abandonando" < 1224372023 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ne regrettons pas le passé, ne nous préoccupons pas de l'avenir : le sage vit dans le présent." < 1224373014 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night"