< 1226189382 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Computer says no < 1226189382 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: no < 1226189440 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Carol Beer < 1226189441 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: hmm < 1226189451 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: little britain < 1226189452 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: should i do (list, rest)? < 1226189476 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Computer says yes < 1226189477 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: i am not sure < 1226189491 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yes he says no < 1226189491 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: By the same notion, music notation notates notes, but not music. < 1226189646 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++[->+++>++++++>+++++++++>++++++++++>+++++++++++<<<<<]>>+.>>+.--.+++.+++++.-.<++.>--.<<<-.>>>+.<----.>>.<.<<<.>>>-----.+. < 1226189646 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer says no < 1226189666 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh, i remember that discussion < 1226189671 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about music notation < 1226189682 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was saying some complete bullshit < 1226189878 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1226190042 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember it too, although i don't remember what it was abou < 1226190044 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*t < 1226190096 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(S~:)(!~:):(e)~^(y)~^( )~^(o)~^(l)~^(u)~^(l)~^( )~^(e)~^(l)~^(l)~^(o)~^( )~^(s)~^(a)~^(t)~^(a)~^( )~^(i)~^(t)~^( )~^(h)~^(e)~^(e)~^(l)~^( )~^(e)~^(g)~^(l)~^(a)~^( )~^(m)~^(e)~^(e)~^(t)~^(!)~^ < 1226190226 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (S~:)(!~:):(e)~^(y)~^( )~^(o)~^(l)~^(u)~^(l)~^( )~^(e)~^(l)~^(l)~^(o)~^( )~^(s)~^(a)~^(t)~^(a)~^( )~^(i)~^(t)~^( )~^(h)~^(e)~^(e)~^(l)~^( )~^(e)~^(g)~^(l)~^(a)~^( )~^(m)~^(e)~^(e)~^(t)~^(!)~^ < 1226190226 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lost the game! < 1226190230 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1226191287 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I don't know if I am < 1226191364 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1226191408 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-125-33.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226192065 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1226192244 0 :Corun_!n=Corun@94-192-102-5.zone6.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1226192276 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1226192276 0 :ab5tract!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1226192277 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1226192277 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1226192583 0 :ab5tract!n=ab5tract@pool-71-246-5-13.phlapa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1226192583 0 :olsner!n=salparot@79.136.60.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1226192583 0 :optbot!n=optbot@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1226194596 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1226195035 0 :ab5tract!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1226196521 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1226196521 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1226196562 0 :olsner!n=salparot@79.136.60.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1226196562 0 :optbot!n=optbot@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1226198533 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1226199043 0 :Dewio!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Dewi < 1226199121 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1226199121 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1226199364 0 :olsner!n=salparot@79.136.60.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1226199364 0 :optbot!n=optbot@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1226200401 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK < 1226201260 0 :Slereah_!n=jewbutt@ANantes-252-1-24-167.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1226202097 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1226202686 0 :Slereah!n=jewbutt@ANantes-252-1-24-167.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1226203923 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226203966 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1226205307 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1226205312 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1226205720 0 :SANiK!n=Hero@pool-70-21-200-27.nwrk.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1226205726 0 :SANiK!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1226205851 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1226205857 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1226206542 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226209387 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1226209392 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1226210193 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1226212887 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | um < 1226214083 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226214185 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1226216465 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1226217213 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226217599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1226217600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1226217981 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Unisex." < 1226219672 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-49.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1226220575 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1226220720 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-122-197.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1226223105 0 :Mony!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-85-133.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1226223130 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ! ploping to me ? < 1226224459 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1226224638 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooooooo < 1226224659 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Plop !))S < 1226224659 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...bad insn! < 1226224662 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1226224664 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Plop !)S < 1226224664 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plop ! < 1226224721 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, the UN declares a moratorium on plops < 1226224743 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after several gruesome incidents < 1226224871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehe < 1226224873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh* < 1226224971 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++++++>+++><<<<-]>[.>--.+++.+.>++.+.-.--<--<] < 1226224972 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ! Plop ... < 1226225836 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226225893 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-86-156.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1226226579 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-86-156.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1226226860 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1226227398 0 :oklokok!n=nnscript@a91-153-125-33.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226227500 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (opbot)S < 1226227500 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :opbot < 1226227511 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (optbot, )S < 1226227511 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, < 1226227512 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: I think ihope is stalking me. < 1226227512 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: \ 0 1 3 5 6 < 1226227519 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o~ < 1226227599 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1226227629 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226227756 0 :Corun_!n=Corun@94-192-102-5.zone6.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1226227917 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1226228176 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-86-156.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1226228333 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: How do you stalk a bot? < 1226228333 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that can be done simpler < 1226228368 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228369 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: i mean, put chars there < 1226228371 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228372 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: I've done it already < 1226228374 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228374 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: guess does it work the way i saw..? < 1226228376 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228377 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: ever seen VHDL? < 1226228378 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228379 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: well - it's also not what i'm aiming for < 1226228380 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228381 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: 2 < 1226228382 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228383 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: I learned the fundamentals of programming through ``RPG Maker 95'', heh. < 1226228385 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228386 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: doubtful < 1226228387 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228388 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: yeah.. I went through it one day and write down which functions seemed to make sense and which ones didn't < 1226228390 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228390 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that sort-of enough? < 1226228391 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: (see http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Special:Recentchanges ) < 1226228403 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228404 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: out of interest, mostly < 1226228406 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228407 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: On line 585 < 1226228408 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, optbot optbot < 1226228409 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: that's cheap < 1226229389 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226229959 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-073-091.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1226230553 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (^^^~^~^~^~^*****()()()())((o))((p))((t))((b))((t))((o))(a~^aa*~^aa*^*a~:^):^!!S < 1226230553 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot < 1226230554 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: @ char < 1226231014 0 :Slereah_!n=jewbutt@ANantes-252-1-24-167.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1226231267 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1226232146 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226232312 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1226232480 0 :Corun_!n=Corun@94-192-102-5.zone6.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1226233214 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226233267 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knock knock < 1226233323 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes ? < 1226233351 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony, how much do you know about Unlambda < 1226233356 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1226233367 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it's a esolang < 1226233374 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all < 1226233413 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, well, see if you can't answer this one: If the expression interpretation is unary, then how does one force compound arguments? < 1226233452 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::0 < 1226233457 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1226233470 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, cool, no worries < 1226233483 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try wake up ais523 < 1226233643 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ehird < 1226233645 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1226233825 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1226233835 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-122-163.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226233890 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol? < 1226234275 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, AnMaster, oklopol, ehird - anyone who knows Unlambda < 1226234319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um? < 1226234325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it a bit < 1226234333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm *far* from an expert on it < 1226234350 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well perhaps you might be able to explain this to me: If the expression interpretation is unary, then how does one force compound arguments? < 1226234360 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no worries, I'm a total beginner anywho < 1226234381 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for clarification: if, say, "F" takes two arguments, x and y, then how do you force "F" to take a compound argument (say, (ab) as x) if the interpretor merely goes one character at a time and looks for the next character. IE: You want to write F(ab)c so that x=ab and y=c but without the brackets) < 1226234448 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, that went over my head. I would say I'm even further from expert than you are ;P < 1226234458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge however I could help with < 1226234485 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, now worries :P Thanks though < 1226234487 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Heheh < 1226234494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION glares at optbot < 1226234494 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: AnMaster can't bear people saying things < 1226234504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey stop that optbot! < 1226234505 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because of the slashdot thing < 1226234518 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Listen here, optbot < 1226234518 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: as i see it, the monad is found from the first object in the >>= chain which is not return _ < 1226234519 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, heh I don't even read slashdot < 1226234520 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: use /dev/stdout for clearness then < 1226234529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1226234530 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | :P < 1226234533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1226234533 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | hi < 1226234535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1226234536 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | We cut out the middle man. < 1226234540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1226234544 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1226234564 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From earlier (fizzie did this) < 1226234565 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (^^^~^~^~^~^*****()()()())((o))((p))((t))((b))((t))((o))(a~^aa*~^aa*^*a~:^):^!!S < 1226234565 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot < 1226234566 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: (Also a perfect opportunity to subtly "doink" jsmips :P ) < 1226234595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato, now that could be simplified a lot < 1226234607 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what language that is :P < 1226234611 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Care to elaborate? < 1226234617 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (bot)(opt)SS < 1226234617 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot < 1226234618 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: The variable "msg" in my bot is first assigned to the actually message part of every PRIVMSG.... but later down in the program it becomes the variable that tells the bot what to send to a channel. < 1226234620 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(looks interesting enough) < 1226234624 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, nice :D < 1226234633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato, what? ^ul? < 1226234635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload < 1226234640 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hrmm < 1226234646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I know slightly more than unlambda < 1226234648 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heard of it, but that's where it ends < 1226234651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still far from expert < 1226234652 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1226234671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato, it have certain similarities with unlambda < 1226234688 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't support input :/ < 1226234694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it doesn't < 1226234709 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrmm, perhaps I'll take a look at that < 1226234716 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1226234755 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is thinking of what has to be done to support usable input and output < 1226234816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well output is usable < 1226234824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't want unmatched () in it < 1226234850 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the first problem.. and you can't output a character that wasn't included in sourcecode < 1226234917 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm one could add an instruction that decreases all characters that are in the top of stack by one < 1226234930 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1226234946 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now for input there must be some way to kind of compare input or something < 1226234960 0 :oklokok!n=nnscript@a91-153-125-33.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226234963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1226234988 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm drop the current top of stack... compare the two items below it... and if they are equal execute the just dropped item < 1226234997 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one instruction to input a single byte < 1226235007 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... any comments on that? < 1226235069 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to make them a not too complex and b not too easy to use < 1226236999 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1226237306 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye ! < 1226237308 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Join the Damnation now !" < 1226238659 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-74.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1226239634 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ul (hello)a(world)a~!^S < 1226239635 0 :thutubot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :world < 1226239669 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is working on the size optimizer of my compiler < 1226240630 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1226241075 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-125-33.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226241434 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1226243766 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1226245249 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-125-33.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226245331 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (test)((LLL )( JJJ))~a*^~**S < 1226245331 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LLL test JJJ < 1226245342 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((LLL )( JJJ))~a*^~**S << this is compiled with my compiler < 1226245366 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the code: "LLL " " JJJ" rot3 swap concat concat print < 1226245666 0 :Ilari!n=user@a88-112-41-199.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226245878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: awesome < 1226245907 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm going to add number input and to extend the "stdlib" < 1226245931 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe i'm going to add "template functions" like rotN where you can write rot10 and it will automatically generate code to get the 10th element on top < 1226246207 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it as rot13 :( < 1226247052 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1226247059 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: ditty < 1226247062 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ditto < 1226247140 0 :oklokok!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226247164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : yeah that's the first problem.. and you can't output a character that wasn't included in sourcecode < 1226247164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm one could add an instruction that decreases all characters that are in the top of stack by one < 1226247166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1226247170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: BTW, You can have underload without () < 1226247173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and still have it tc < 1226247173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so use a number -> char table < 1226247178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 proved it after I got the idea < 1226247179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1226247182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have one new command < 1226247187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dei" < 1226247191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what it does is < 1226247197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xd where X is any one command < 1226247199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the same as X(X) < 1226247201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1226247201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, isn't underload already tc? < 1226247205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ad is < 1226247208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a(a) < 1226247214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually tc, believe it or not < 1226247227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can compile underload into deiunderload < 1226247232 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1226247242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: it requires () to be pushed on the stack at the start of the program < 1226247244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1226247256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also output gets messed up < 1226247259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you dont need that < 1226247290 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i want a language that is fun to program in... < 1226247295 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fun as in easy < 1226247314 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as in... fun :/ < 1226247337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, well got an example of some language you think is fun, or it is hard to know what you think is fun < 1226247349 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload < 1226247353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1226247357 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck < 1226247370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there is boolfuck < 1226247377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bits instead of bytes < 1226247379 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think that removing () from underload takes a lot of the fun < 1226247393 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's difficuilt to describe < 1226247397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hm < 1226247403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, what do you think of INTERCAL? < 1226247419 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: never really tried it... < 1226247423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1226247433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, befunge? or trefunge? < 1226247453 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge fun... trefunge... i don't think so... < 1226247460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1226247486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: yeah but < 1226247487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a fun note < 1226247487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, I can see what properties befunge, brainfuck and underload share ;P < 1226247540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, personally I think bf is boring, befunge fun, underload quite fun. Intercal fun too < 1226247541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: befunge is pretty fun < 1226247546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the easy but challenging sense < 1226247549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like BF, UL < 1226247585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1226247588 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: < 1226247594 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example ul without () i think you'd lose the ability to work on single parts of the program without affecting everything else < 1226247597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :language with nothing but first class expctions < 1226247601 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exceptions* < 1226247602 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trefunge is just too cumbersome to edit < 1226247607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, no other data type than exceptions < 1226247622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue how, but sounds like a fun idea < 1226247632 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i heard that some time ago... < 1226247635 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ the wiki maybe < 1226247643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, hm remember any name of it? < 1226247667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: befunge is pretty easy to edit < 1226247670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you haev to plan for it < 1226247675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get what you mean, though < 1226247679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload is probably the best language for that < 1226247680 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: trefunge.... < 1226247683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the best langs < 1226247684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: yeah < 1226247687 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: befunge is easy... < 1226247691 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to edit < 1226247692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1226247694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? :p < 1226247698 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trefunge is hard < 1226247711 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226247749 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can't really see the current context < 1226247795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... http://esolangs.org/wiki/Catch < 1226247802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is close but not exactly < 1226247856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got other control flow too < 1226248416 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226248883 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226248898 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonjour, Universe < 1226249035 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\me counts the lives ones < 1226249046 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION counts the live ones < 1226249051 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(much better :P) < 1226249086 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonjer < 1226249092 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Bonger < 1226249098 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Bondger < 1226249478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um http://esolangs.org/wiki/Wire-crossing_problem got an issue I think. < 1226249486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this "strong claim" mentioned. < 1226249504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have misunderstood that page, but... < 1226249536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1226249537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1226249538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget that < 1226249586 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ther a question in all that? < 1226249599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I found that my idea was wrong < 1226249610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before I had time to fully write it in my irc client < 1226249673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I noted that you can avoid # or such in befunge, and whitespace, and yet cross wires < 1226249693 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed; you make roundabouts < 1226249705 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : v < 1226249705 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>-+ < 1226249705 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : + < 1226249706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1226249713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just reverse the operation < 1226249719 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or yeah, you could do that too < 1226249756 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes it kind of needs either self modification or state outside the current cell < 1226249761 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can still cross wires even if ea each instruction can only be exited in one way (or two for choice instructions) < 1226249782 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. each instruction has an implicit exit direction < 1226249788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1226249791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can? < 1226249803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, since funge space wraps I guess so < 1226249804 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you just make roundabouts < 1226249808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just go over the edge < 1226249821 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not all wire-crossing can be solved by being on a torous < 1226249827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1226249846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, well easy still since choice have two exits < 1226249854 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1226249873 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can use choices to make a structure that acts like two wires crossing < 1226249893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just join another wire just before the choice and each one pushes different numbers resulting in a "road sign" < 1226249894 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1226249901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, indeed < 1226249931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, also you could trivially self modify in befunge to change the instruction ahead < 1226249935 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't really want to distract SimonRC from his conversation, so is attempting to conjure up a way to learn of whether SimonRC knows his Unlambda well enough to answer a simple[is] question < 1226249959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd, several persons asked about unlambda today < 1226249963 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some unlambda < 1226249970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it suddenly so popular? < 1226249994 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay :) well, then, perhaps you may be able to answer the following: If the expression interpretation is unary, then how does one force compound arguments? < 1226250017 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(heh, naah, it's all just me - I've been bugged by this) < 1226250020 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1226250035 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if, say, "F" takes two arguments, x and y, then how do you force "F" to take a compound argument (say, (ab) as x) if the interpretor merely goes one character at a time and looks for the next character. IE: You want to write F(ab)c so that x=ab and y=c but without the brackets < 1226250069 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And for AnMaster's sake, yes, that is a direct copy 'n paste of what I asked you earlier :P) < 1226250085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato, ah it was you last time too < 1226250087 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :``F`abc == F(ab)c < 1226250093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought it was jix < 1226250097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads log < 1226250101 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :== (F(ab))c < 1226250107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1226250129 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrmm, is that equivalent to (F((ab)c))? < 1226250148 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, ab is one argument (compound), c is the second < 1226250172 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: huh? < 1226250189 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are getting confused here < 1226250198 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so too < 1226250208 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The combinator S takes three arguments, not so? < 1226250246 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :juxtaposition is the function application operator in the brackety syntax; brackets are for grouping, and are not an operator < 1226250255 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, say you wanted to do S(BL)(AH)(KP), where B,L,A,H,K,P are all combinators too < 1226250258 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: yes it does < 1226250285 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :```s`BL`AH`KP afaik < 1226250297 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: yes < 1226250334 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, then, does that not also do B(L), A(H) and K(P) prior to S of their results? < 1226250355 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: um, that is an odd way to write them, but yes < 1226250368 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something tells me I am just confusing logical combinators with string rewriting in my head < 1226250371 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one ould usually just say BL, AH, and KP < 1226250384 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ok, I see < 1226250385 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrmm < 1226250398 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, thank you for that, I think my problem is solved :) < 1226250402 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :combinators can be done by string re-writing < 1226250434 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrmm, ok, yes - yes, they can - hoorah! It all makes sense to me now XD < 1226250457 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, SimonRC, do you mind giving your opinion on my new esolang? < 1226250515 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... < 1226250532 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, no worries < 1226250671 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well? < 1226250744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... ZISC < 1226250747 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I understood an amount of reluctantcy there, in that case: The whole system is based on what I now correctly identify as functional string re-writing < 1226250760 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(heh, AnMaster) < 1226250772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivially non-tc I guess unless you can make some other way to control the program < 1226250784 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There can be 256 functions (practically, far fewer) < 1226250792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um? < 1226250800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zero Instruction Set Computer < 1226250813 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each of which then takes arguments, and prints a new string < 1226250820 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nope, I'm sure it's TC) < 1226250829 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally (at the start of the programme) < 1226250836 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is only one function: g < 1226250841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato, are you talking about the same thing as me? < 1226250844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something else? < 1226250851 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's form is gxyz < 1226250858 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my esolang, or ZISC?) < 1226250868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no ZISC, it was just an idea I got < 1226250875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there is OISC < 1226250885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/OISC < 1226250899 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the logical thing would be to take that one step further < 1226250927 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning, it takes the argument x, declares it as a function, which takes the argument why and returns z < 1226250930 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Instruction_Set_Computer) < 1226250935 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yep, there is) < 1226250956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, I hoped for some nice esolang < 1226250984 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm, lemme type out the spec < 1226250999 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about that SimonRC < 1226251001 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1226251073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, there? < 1226251098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, question: does jitfunge handle x? < 1226251245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, if yes, what happens when you run 00x < 1226252545 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bar walks into a commutative algebraist. < 1226252740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: HAHAHAHAHAHA < 1226252746 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for those not already bored to death by me: http://rafb.net/p/kihs9G28.html < 1226252751 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and brb, supper time) < 1226252763 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[it is the spec I was trying to communicate] < 1226252954 0 :kt3k!n=stibium_@FL1-122-130-193-58.kyt.mesh.ad.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1226253309 0 :kt3k!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1226253394 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-085-216-040-186.hsi.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1226253472 0 :Mony!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-85-133.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1226253494 0 :jayCampbell!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A seal walks into a club. < 1226253776 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay Dr Who on BBC7 < 1226253799 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell: that's what they all say < 1226255935 0 :hillbilly!i=4558c133@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8251308c016ae712 JOIN :#esoteric < 1226255966 0 :hillbilly!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1226256087 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | if it rhymes it must be true. < 1226257414 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumtitum < 1226257649 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was x the set-delta one? < 1226257669 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I think < 1226257727 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the 'x' arguments can be constant-folded, I do 'x' simply by setting the delta used when tracing what instructions to compile. In other cases I end the compiled block and set the "type" of the block to be 'SETDELTA', which will be handled correctly. < 1226257731 0 :MrBeginBot!n=Beginbo@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226257743 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although 00x doesn't get any special treatment and therefore will probably do rather silly things. < 1226257745 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, the programme works :D < 1226257754 0 :MrBeginBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1226257792 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there's no officially sanctioned special semantics for 00x. < 1226258169 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how on earth does one compile Befunge? < 1226258173 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything could change < 1226258260 0 :AnotherBotTest!n=Beginbo@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226258270 0 :AnotherBotTest!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1226258318 0 :AnotherBotTest!n=guesswho@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226258348 0 :AnotherBotTest!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an automated test < 1226258355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: duh < 1226258355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jit < 1226258357 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smiles < 1226258365 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ah < 1226258366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: /whois knows all < 1226258383 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1226258392 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know anything about jitting < 1226258399 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION curses these new fangled IPv6 services < 1226258414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: you compile it into memory < 1226258416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run it directly < 1226258418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it goes < 1226258424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if something changes, you modify the code in memory. < 1226258513 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1226258548 0 :AnotherBotTest!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1226258575 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1226258578 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1226258587 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, of course. It is like Forth. < 1226258590 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1226258868 0 :mbishop!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1226259192 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; in my case, if something changes, you just discard the function it's in and recompile it the next time it's encountered. < 1226259267 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("function" here meaning I JIT-compile things into callable functions; of course there's no functions in the Befunge code.) < 1226259319 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-123-54.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226259983 0 :AnotherTestBot5!n=AnotherT@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226260010 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'marx < 1226260016 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`marx < 1226260054 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close.. < 1226260130 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: ?? < 1226260154 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll see soon, just have to coax python into somehow refreshing/sleeping during a lop < 1226260155 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any ideas? < 1226260160 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think that functions might have been a better use of the [ and ] characters < 1226260204 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would push some location data on the stack and turn left/right < 1226260233 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stack stack could handle the rest of the function-call work < 1226260258 0 :AnotherTestBot7!n=AnotherT@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226260279 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~marx < 1226260304 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1226260312 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1226260336 0 :AnotherTestBot7!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1226260350 0 :AnotherTestBot8!n=AnotherT@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226260358 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~marx < 1226260381 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~marx < 1226260393 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1226260410 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHA < 1226260418 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you oklokok's untimely disconnect < 1226260419 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1226260459 0 :Doitle2!n=Doitle@c-98-214-67-104.hsd1.il.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1226260472 0 :AnotherTestBot8!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1226260481 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1226260486 0 :AnotherTestBot9!n=AnotherT@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226260490 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-123-54.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226260498 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~marx < 1226260571 0 :AnotherTestBot9!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1226260588 0 :AnotherTestBot9!n=AnotherT@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226260594 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~marx < 1226260650 0 :AnotherTestBot9!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1226260665 0 :AnotherTestBot9!n=AnotherT@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226260671 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~marx < 1226260694 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For god's sakes, why can't it find stuff in a list < 1226260701 0 :AnotherTestBot9!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1226260714 0 :AnotherTestBot9!n=AnotherT@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226260720 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~marx < 1226260743 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmm < 1226260744 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1226260751 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sorry for all the spamming < 1226260756 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll find a blank channel now < 1226260776 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226260777 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I for one am not offended, but I have absolutely no idea what's going on. < 1226260804 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :P I don't suppose you know socket programming in python? < 1226260818 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a blank channel? < 1226260818 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've done a bit of it. < 1226260845 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-122-197.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1226260856 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmm, could you tell me what's wrong with this then? s.send('PRIVMSG #' + CHANNELINIT + ' :'+TEXT) < 1226260857 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did one silly "do a routing protocol client with the sockets API" course-project in Python because I didn't feel like C that day. < 1226260863 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where s is the socket < 1226260904 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, fizzie < 1226260909 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe your TEXT doesn't have \r\n after it? < 1226260915 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's just a guess. < 1226260918 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are a genious! That's what's wrong with it, it's missing the 1013 line feed < 1226260926 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, you're dead right :D < 1226260937 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks :) < 1226260939 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additionally I'd write it as "PRIVMSG #%s :%s\r\n" % (CHANNELINIT, TEXT), but that's just me. < 1226260962 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, yeah, I'm still a newb, but, I'll put it in, to look all fancy :P < 1226260996 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to some Python tutorial or other, I've done almost all my string-building with the "%" formatting-thing instead of concatenating strings. < 1226261028 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrmm, yeah, it seems to C-esque for me to really like < 1226261048 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"foo" + bar + "baz" seems too Java-esque for me, on the other hand. :p < 1226261105 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I see. Though, regret ably, I do come from a Delphi background where there is no real alternative < 1226261121 0 :AnotherTestBot8!n=AnotherT@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226261125 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see < 1226261129 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~marx < 1226261135 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugger < 1226261156 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrmm, that means that there's something wrong with the format of the data < 1226261168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1226261203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: the point of % formatting is that you can do all kinds of nice stuff < 1226261207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it also lets you look at the string as a template < 1226261211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see what it's going to be like at a glance < 1226261212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now brb < 1226261220 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, lol, and ok < 1226261241 0 :WorkDamnIt!n=AnotherT@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226261244 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~marx < 1226261245 0 :WorkDamnIt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From each according to his ability, to each accotrding to his need < 1226261250 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOYAH! < 1226261252 0 :AnotherTestBot9!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1226261258 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a typo and all < 1226261268 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, can I get a second on that? < 1226261303 0 :AnotherTestBot5!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226261324 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++>+++<<<-]>.>++..++++++++++.<-.+++++++.>>. < 1226261324 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOYAH! < 1226261329 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1226261336 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~marx < 1226261337 0 :WorkDamnIt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From each according to his ability, to each accotrding to his need < 1226261353 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so chuffed, now to put together some actually useful code. Any suggestions? < 1226261392 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: groucho marx quotes? < 1226261397 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or harpo ;-) < 1226261413 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actions < 1226261420 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :privmsgs < 1226261436 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :identifying itself to a nickserv < 1226261439 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that, is there some big o list of them I can rip off? OOh, I know, why not quotes from portal :P < 1226261445 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1226261448 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmm, yeah, about those < 1226261464 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'll try, it's been a pain trying to dig out the protocol (text) for IRC < 1226261470 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random nethack death messges? < 1226261477 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1226261480 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: hav you read the RFCs? < 1226261482 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the RFC is quite enough for simple bot use. < 1226261489 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not very difficult to find. < 1226261493 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1226261499 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack.alt.org maintains a list of every death message < 1226261500 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what might they be? < 1226261519 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*boggle* < 1226261521 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/index.html has 'em, for example. < 1226261538 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, thanks < 1226261553 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RFCs are the things that define all the major protocols of the internet < 1226261576 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to read faster < 1226261580 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. email, web, irc, etc < 1226261610 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure IRC ranks above, say, TCP. :p (I'm assuming that list was sorted according to priority.) < 1226261632 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1226261820 0 :WorkDamnIt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1226262261 0 :WorkDamnIt!n=AnotherT@dsl-245-47-134.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1226262266 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~q < 1226262267 0 :WorkDamnIt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think I'm trying to trick you with reverse psychology? Seriously now... < 1226262271 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~q < 1226262272 0 :WorkDamnIt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to a required test protocol, we will not monitor the next chamber, you will be entirely on your own. Good Luck < 1226262278 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1226262364 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~q < 1226262365 0 :WorkDamnIt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... ''[crackling static]'' < 1226262373 0 :Doitle2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You dont have any friends < 1226262386 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that, my friend, is where you're wrong ;) < 1226262422 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you can unilaterally declare people as friends. < 1226262424 0 :AnotherTestBot8!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226262441 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you have some good quotes? < 1226262442 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also, given the fnord fnord perhaps there's some confusion with his character also in the german tradition and a definition of the ' ' fnord'" < 1226262455 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1226262475 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, yaeh < 1226262487 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For about twenty odd minutes of quotes, I'm not too sad < 1226262504 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to quote a phrase < 1226262507 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~Q < 1226262510 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~q < 1226262511 0 :WorkDamnIt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :''[Soon after previous quote]'' ''Stop!'' Okay, enough, I deleted it. No matter what happens now, you're ''dead.'' You're still shuffling around a little but believe me, ''you're dead.'' < 1226262539 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's been fun lads < 1226262543 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have an exam tomorrow < 1226262544 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheers < 1226262547 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1226262566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is Doitle2 < 1226262593 0 :Doitle2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am me < 1226262632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is me in the context of Doitle2 < 1226262665 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never know how to answer that question when asked. < 1226262703 0 :Doitle2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doitle2 is an Electrical Engineering undergrad from Illinois who has been learning and writing simple stuff in BF after coming accross it on Wikipedia. He was then instructed by #bf to come here instead. < 1226262722 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's #bf about, then? < 1226262725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you talk about yourself in the third person < 1226262728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. we can't be friends < 1226262733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: gregorr's ##brainfuck i guess < 1226262739 0 :Doitle2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He asked the question in such a manner. I don't normally talk in the third person. < 1226262756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he < 1226262759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean me < 1226262761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather "you" < 1226262762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1226262789 0 :Doitle2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you, rather. I didn't see that it was you both times. < 1226262839 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a ##brainfuck, too? Huh, I must've not been paying attention. < 1226262852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody talks there. < 1226262865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just tells you to go to #esoteric < 1226263384 0 :oklokok!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226263569 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1226263746 0 :WorkDamnIt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1226263795 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-44-102.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1226263811 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1226263821 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1226264051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1226264071 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1226264176 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :a < 1226264184 0 :a!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix < 1226264186 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A what?" < 1226264200 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As the message in this client is: "jix is now known as a".) < 1226264226 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wanted to test a bot that swaps the first two letters of nicks in status msgs to avoid highlights < 1226264253 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of status msgs? < 1226264276 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma < 1226264296 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you write nick++ the user gains karma if you write nick-- it loses < 1226264305 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1226264373 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optimally that sort of thing should support also "++nick" and "--nick", with the difference being whether the status message reports karma before or after the change. < 1226264388 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, of course < 1226264434 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to write a command for the statistics < 1226264443 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't report it after you issue the ++ or -- command < 1226264458 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay. < 1226264980 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1226265047 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi < 1226265105 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1226265268 0 :LinuS!n=LinuS@net-93-145-206-165.t2.dsl.vodafone.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1226265283 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:12… AnMaster: Zero Instruction Set Computer <<< genius < 1226265300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok, was that sarcastic? < 1226265768 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226265794 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no i was not < 1226265800 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how about a NOISC < 1226265804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :negative one instruction set computer < 1226265827 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish there negative amounts made sense for discrete objects < 1226265837 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1226265852 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: damn you, i was thinking of making a lang compile to underload too. < 1226265858 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although a bit higher level < 1226265882 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like C = 7; A = 5 * C; print A * "x"; < 1226265891 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i wanted to keep it compatible with the stack concept < 1226265906 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought of implementing an even higher level language on top of my stack language < 1226265915 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which should be a lot easier than doing it directly < 1226265916 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that would work. < 1226265953 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously a good way to do it "directly" is just never to publish the stack language but make it first anyway. < 1226265983 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1226266032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mainly wanted to get something like registers there, did stack-based->bf once, it's quite fun compiling between stack and registers < 1226266033 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm programming in a scripting language < 1226266034 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1226266047 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hiding it will be hard < 1226266052 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i program in python almost exclusively < 1226266064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm. that's not exactly what i meant < 1226266076 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1226266087 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then i didn't get what you mean < 1226266088 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just meant you just don't make a big whoop about the stack language, it's just an intermediate thingie. < 1226266102 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1226266120 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think i'd prefer to program in it over a more high level language < 1226266126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah of course it's better to extend underload with some kinda procedures first, it's just i consider that trivial < 1226266152 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah basically it really just is a preprocessor < 1226266154 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of do a "stack-language to registery machine" thing with jitfunge, given that the input is Befunge and the output is x86 code. < 1226266157 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i should call it like that < 1226266183 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, except this is the other way < 1226266191 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think it's fundamentally pretty similar a problem. < 1226266222 0 :Corun_!n=Corun@94-192-102-5.zone6.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1226266233 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I also still have a stack, so it's pretty trivial; and in fact I could just opt to not use the registers much. < 1226266235 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Corun_ we were just talking about you < 1226266247 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm right < 1226266263 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sometimes forget The Stack is a stack. < 1226266313 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i bet the topic is my sayings. < 1226266352 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yes, from July this year. < 1226266372 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1226266382 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Related to psygnisfive's "in the music video theres this boy thats hot / who really needs to sit on my cock". < 1226266396 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1226266402 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: english needs a better word than "on" there < 1226266404 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love my own jokes < 1226266417 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something with a meaning like "around" < 1226266418 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sit around my cock" < 1226266435 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Have you been sitting around cocks here?" < 1226266446 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe like "into", except the active and static roles are reversed < 1226266459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "in the music video theres this boy thats hot / who really needs to sit on my cock" <- that is some rhyming there < 1226266470 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Oklopol < 1226266471 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, one thing remains still, while another one surrounds it < 1226266478 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just talking about you < 1226266492 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we have a separate word case for that in Finnish either. < 1226266506 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We've got 15 of them for nouns.) < 1226266546 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a rare thing to happen though < 1226266612 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ey what? < 1226266626 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did i say this again? < 1226266628 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which music video? < 1226266636 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: 2008-07-21 < 1226266642 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which music video? < 1226266675 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's talk about "Scatman" right before. < 1226266679 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes ok < 1226266682 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that boy. < 1226266808 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. i think i'm really fundamentally too lazy to be a programmer; i simply cannot get myself to open a file containing some parsing code, and i don't feel like writing it because i have it in a file already. < 1226266818 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what i'm not too lazy for. < 1226266826 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost the game < 1226266831 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i read "The Stack" < 1226266841 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elaborate < 1226266862 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: veb or noun? < 1226266865 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*verb < 1226266867 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't say The Word < 1226266881 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which Word? < 1226266882 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: what? < 1226266885 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1226266889 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elaborate was a verb < 1226266897 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that makes jix lose < 1226266898 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MS Word? < 1226266911 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stack"? < 1226266920 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty standard way to ask someone to... elaborate < 1226266922 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "Word" < 1226266936 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is only a theory < 1226266948 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, I have been known to use "detail" as a verb < 1226266954 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Again in Finnish we'd have had a separate verb mood (imperative) for making a command like that. < 1226266977 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: IMD they are distinguished by emphasis pattern < 1226266990 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: true; we should really move to finnish and hope it catches on. < 1226267012 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a stack is only a theory? < 1226267029 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, the finnish version "kerro lisää" is sarcastic and means "shut up, i don't give a shit". < 1226267067 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: jix loses The Game when reading things of the form The Word. sheesh. < 1226267079 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah < 1226267086 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's often followed with "kiveäkin kiinnostaa" - "even the stone is interested". < 1226267089 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pattern of capitalisation < 1226267095 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually is that "kiviä" or "kiveä"? I'm not quite sure.) < 1226267101 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiviäkin kiinnostaa < 1226267103 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plural < 1226267107 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1226267115 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes English had cool sarcasm like that < 1226267128 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds pretty funny in english < 1226267137 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i should start using it < 1226267140 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard it quite often in the form "runkoreititintäkin kiinnostaa" ("even the core network router is interested") so I couldn't remember the pluarlismity of the standard version. < 1226267147 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: I _could_ care less < 1226267181 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do "I could care less" and "I couldn't care less" have basically the same meaning, or are there differences? < 1226267187 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah i've heard that too, and many others < 1226267204 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i could care less" isn't exactly used, is it? < 1226267209 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, I think one of my more deadpan freinds has stated his lack of interest by claiming inanimate to be interested < 1226267211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by americans < 1226267212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1226267222 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well acquantances < 1226267228 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I could care less is sarcastic, iiuc < 1226267232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't lose the game because of my preventative measure. < 1226267240 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so same eventual meaning < 1226267244 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Puzzi. Sì, parlo proprio con te. Puzzi." < 1226267313 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Google found a handy chart for it: http://incompetech.com/gallimaufry/care_less.html < 1226267316 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's useful. < 1226267327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:39:37 Here are the new rules to Not the Game: < 1226267327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:39:38 { < 1226267327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:39:38 1. You can start playing or stop playing Not the Game by announcing you do. < 1226267328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:39:38 2. If you are playing Not the Game, you are not playing The Game. < 1226267328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:39:38 3. Not the Game takes precedence over every other game, including games (apart < 1226267328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:39:39 from Not the Game) that specify other rules of precedence. < 1226267331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:39:40 } < 1226267333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:39:42 I start playing Not the Game. < 1226267335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- 2008-10-30 < 1226267337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who else wants to start playing Not the Game? < 1226267341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free yourself from the Game! < 1226267403 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't feel especially constrained about the Game even without playing Not the Game. < 1226267419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing "could care less" actually in use, i've definitely seen that in use before. < 1226267450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But it lets you believe in the reaching-out silliness of games exceeding their boundaries, while not bothering with the boringness of the Game! < 1226267487 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe in believing in that. < 1226267497 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mwahah, the Wikipedia article is written in the canonical Wikipedia style. < 1226267499 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Game has been called pointless and has been known to infuriate some people." < 1226267545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1226267563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOME PEOPLE say that joe is gay < 1226267588 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is there a weasel word tag? < 1226267612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the time it takes to put a tag there they could remove the sentence < 1226267612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1226267707 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately no. Maybe there should be. < 1226267721 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the sentence is actually referenced < 1226267728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1226267743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people say that joe is gay.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] < 1226267756 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a section (titled "Weasel words if I ever saw them") referring to that part on the discussion page, but nothing seems to have happened re it. < 1226267766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x_x < 1226267797 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'x' < 1226267817 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Given that you're loaded with 20 megabytes of Wikipedia talk, how does that make you feel? < 1226267817 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this is a global encyclopedia. bob dylan in europe was on cbs records, not columbia records in the 1960s, spread the legend that johnson had sold his soul to the devil in exchange for them eliminating the enfield 8000 article provides ' ' ' < 1226267865 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know there were any legends about people selling their souls in exchange for the elimination of Wikipedia articles. < 1226267886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1226267889 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially made by bob dylan in the 1960s < 1226267905 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that man is a true visionary indeed < 1226268024 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There also seem to be nine nominations-for-deletion already; with "unknown2 result", "keep", "delete", "keep deleted", "no consensus", "restore", "no consensus", "delete" and "allow recreation". The System, it works. < 1226268129 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but sooner or later you lose The System < 1226268163 0 :LinuS!n=LinuS@net-93-145-206-165.t2.dsl.vodafone.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1226271300 0 :oklokok!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1226271404 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEOUCH! http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/08/1720246 < 1226271457 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was on reddit yesterday < 1226271543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1226271544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1226271545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1226271993 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1226272208 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1226272217 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1226272237 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1226272239 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Join the Damnation now !" < 1226272484 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1226273540 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1226273581 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1226273889 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1226274099 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Puzzi. Sì, parlo proprio con te. Puzzi." < 1226274368 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed. (Quote of the day: "OH, GOD SHIT JESUS." // "A peculiar form of Theogenesis.") < 1226274483 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's got to be _some_ mythology that did that already. < 1226274588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REGEX CHALLENGE: < 1226274604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :match the first one of these chars : . , < 1226274605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1226274607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside of () and [] < 1226274612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so foo(bar,quux)baz. < 1226274613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gets the . < 1226274623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but foo,bar.baz gets the , < 1226274677 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty obviously requires something advanced enough to do parenthesis matching < 1226274700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not rly < 1226274702 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you allow nested parens < 1226274703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no nested parens < 1226274705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or []s < 1226274741 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then it should be possible < 1226274796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, wait, think i've cracked it < 1226274896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't work < 1226274896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1226275001 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :([^.,]|[(][^)]*[)]|[[][^]]*[]])* should be the part before it < 1226275006 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or thereabouts < 1226275044 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1226275074 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :([^][().,]|[(][^)]*[)]|[[][^]]*[]])* < 1226275168 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc ] must be first (possibly after ^) in a [...] < 1226275170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wow